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radwanska
Mar 19th, 2007, 01:30 PM
Kims Diary
After that fantastic goodbye in Antwerp and the many beautiful letters you wrote, I have found theenergy again to start training before heading for Miami tomorrow.

This is pissing me off she is acting so innicently and making it out that she is doing nothing wrong pulling out of roland garros basically means i couldnt give a flying fuck anymore about tennis,and skipping indian wells just out of nowhere.I think it's safe to say Kim does not give a fuck anymore about tennis.What wasted talent.Ah well thats the way it goes,Kim these innicent comments just wont do the job your making hard work of your farewell year pissing off fans who spend good money to see you and you end up putting in no effort or pulling out.I used too have loads of respect for you but not anymore.Francesca Schiavone says ''shes making such a big deal of her last year on the tour,its all a big publicity stunt,attention seeker.''

Reuchlin
Mar 19th, 2007, 01:47 PM
Kims Diary
After that fantastic goodbye in Antwerp and the many beautiful letters you wrote, I have found theenergy again to start training before heading for Miami tomorrow.

This is pissing me off she is acting so innicently and making it out that she is doing nothing wrong pulling out of roland garros basically means i couldnt give a flying fuck anymore about tennis,and skipping indian wells just out of nowhere.I think it's safe to say Kim does not give a fuck anymore about tennis.What wasted talent.Ah well thats the way it goes,Kim these innicent comments just wont do the job your making hard work of your farewell year pissing off fans who spend good money to see you and you end up putting in no effort or pulling out.I used too have loads of respect for you but not anymore.Francesca Schiavone says ''shes making such a big deal of her last year on the tour,its all a big publicity stunt,attention seeker.''

I agree 100%-- Perhaps it all came too easy for Kim. She will regret it in 2/3 years once it hits her that married life (especially to a pro athlete, and basketball player at that) is not all it's cracked up to be.

Also, did Schiavone really say that?

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:08 PM
:o

I guess we'll see in Miami how motivated she is.

thrust
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:09 PM
It^s her life, get over it!

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:10 PM
It^s her life, get over it!

It's a hard concept to grasp for some people. :o

FaceyFacem
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:10 PM
i love kim, but it's true, i hate this type of retirement, with the huge production and everything, i just wish she's be motivated or stop playing, she seems committed to play wimbledon, it's the one thing she's been sure of playing for awhile, so hopefully she'll really put it together to win there somehow

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:12 PM
i love kim, but it's true, i hate this type of retirement, with the huge production and everything, i just wish she's be motivated or stop playing, she seems committed to play wimbledon, it's the one thing she's been sure of playing for awhile, so hopefully she'll really put it together to win there somehow

Okay... what huge production? I think if was such an attention whore people say she is, she'd want to play more tournaments.

John.
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:12 PM
:rolleyes: I am bored with Kim's retirement and as annoyed as most peple are, but is there any need to open thread #7348324832658 about the subject :o

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:14 PM
:rolleyes: I am bored with Kim's retirement and as annoyed as most peple are, but is there any need to open thread #7348324832658 about the subject :o

Yes, of course, we need another thread on this. :D :tape:

Paneru
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:16 PM
Kims Diary
After that fantastic goodbye in Antwerp and the many beautiful letters you wrote, I have found theenergy again to start training before heading for Miami tomorrow.

This is pissing me off she is acting so innicently and making it out that she is doing nothing wrong pulling out of roland garros basically means i couldnt give a flying fuck anymore about tennis,and skipping indian wells just out of nowhere.I think it's safe to say Kim does not give a fuck anymore about tennis.What wasted talent.Ah well thats the way it goes,Kim these innicent comments just wont do the job your making hard work of your farewell year pissing off fans who spend good money to see you and you end up putting in no effort or pulling out.I used too have loads of respect for you but not anymore.Francesca Schiavone says ''shes making such a big deal of her last year on the tour,its all a big publicity stunt,attention seeker.''


Don't hate on her because you haven't
got what she has! So bitter! :p

Get off her behind and worry about
your own self! :wavey:

LUIS9
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:26 PM
:o

I guess we'll see in Miami how motivated she is.

I know the last time she actually seemed to care to win a competitive match was back in the sydney semis and finals. :rolleyes:

timafi
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:28 PM
with all due respect to Schiavone ;she shouldn't say shit about Clijsters retiring.:mad:
Even if as a fan,I hate seeing Clijsters retire at such a young age and will miss her;I try to respect her choices and her decision to retire :sad:
When it comes down to Schiavone,she should just shut the hell up about Clijsters and a supposed publicity stunt.Schiavone whose almost27 years old and hasn't won a frigging title has some neves to yap about another player winner of 34 titles:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Clijsters has been winning titles since she was 16 since 1999 same can't be said about Francesca at her age:tape:
Clijsters is a grand slam champion and 3x finalist and 2x YEC champion
Schiavone should be content and feel lucky she and team Italy got away with a fed cup title because we all know that either a healthy team France(missing Pierce);Russia and Belgium(Henin and her knee and Clijsters and her wrist) would have won and not Italy:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:31 PM
I know the last time she actually seemed to care to win a competitive match was back in the sydney semis and finals. :rolleyes:

No, it wasn't. ;) :p
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Althought her attitude against Maria was just weird...

LUIS9
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:36 PM
:confused: No, it wasn't. ;) :p
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Althought her attitude against Maria was just weird...

Not weird, it was pitiful and pathetic. I love Kim but that fire she had in 2005 just simply faded away. I loved that entire month of march, she was almost unbeatable and she really wanted to be playing competitive tennis on a big stage. Whatever happened? :confused: Then again it really is her life and she knows what matters most to her at this point in her life.

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:38 PM
:confused:

Not weird, it was pitiful and pathetic.

Yeah, it was pretty :o, but I think she looks like she cares in these pics (this was Antwerp).

Tenis Srbija
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:49 PM
:rolleyes: I am bored with Kim's retirement and as annoyed as most peple are, but is there any need to open thread #7348324832658 about the subject :o

I agree...

She is retiring, the end!

frontier
Mar 19th, 2007, 02:49 PM
she will come back in three years with her baby on tour like bammer,i think she will come back like hingis and retire with more slams.i hope her marriage will last and she will not regret quitting her career for this guy.

Volcana
Mar 19th, 2007, 03:59 PM
1) Having a family more important that being a professional tennis player.

2) Margaret Court and Evonne Goolagong both returned to the tour after having kids.

3) As for skipping Roland Garros, she's not the first top player to skip Roland Garros to try and win Wimbledon. Ivan Lendl skipped Roland Garros multiple times for just that reason. He wanted to win the biggest tournament of all before he retired. Clijsters only has ONE chance now. Maximizing that chance is only logical.

4) If you can't respect her decision, maybe it's time to look in the mirror and ask yourself why your perspective is so fucked up.

mandy7
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:02 PM
Tranny, sorry, franny, should shut the hell up.
She's the one saying things like that for publicity.
Which she appearantely needs after dropping outta the top 20.

And, dude, let Kim live her life. HER life.
She doesn't wanna get injured, so she's taking things easy,
Nothing wrong with that.
Kim rocks!

Nemo_Kool
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:04 PM
At the end of the day, it is her decision. I'm no fan of hers however, people have the right to play as much or as little as she likes. She has found a new chapter in life which i think is far more important than a tennis career can be (especially if you have won over $16,000,000). I think people should give the girl a break because no-one has the right to question or judge others decisions in life. I think she will know whether she has made the right decision a couple of years down the line but that is entirely down to her.

Paul.
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:07 PM
Kims Diary
After that fantastic goodbye in Antwerp and the many beautiful letters you wrote, I have found theenergy again to start training before heading for Miami tomorrow.

This is pissing me off she is acting so innicently and making it out that she is doing nothing wrong pulling out of roland garros basically means i couldnt give a flying fuck anymore about tennis,and skipping indian wells just out of nowhere.I think it's safe to say Kim does not give a fuck anymore about tennis.What wasted talent.Ah well thats the way it goes,Kim these innicent comments just wont do the job your making hard work of your farewell year pissing off fans who spend good money to see you and you end up putting in no effort or pulling out.I used too have loads of respect for you but not anymore.Francesca Schiavone says ''shes making such a big deal of her last year on the tour,its all a big publicity stunt,attention seeker.''

Have some respect. Whether you like it or not, this is her decision. This is about her, not you.

I can't believe you are forgetting, amongst all of this pathetic self-pity that Kim Clijsters has been one of the kindest, most respectable, hard working and most exciting WTA players in history. Excuse her for wanting a life outside of tennis which involves being a normal person who doesn't have to spend every spare moment travelling or training.

So yeah, she might have pulled out of Roland Garros and perhaps lost a bit of the fire power she once had, but have you ever thought for a second that she maybe just wants to experience a normal life with a normal family. Being engaged will have changed her - I'm sure she's longing for a bit of stability.

How about you get over yourself and grow up. Of course her priorities have changed - it's inevitable. In your opinion, she might be making mistakes but for all you know, she might just want a bit of time for some headspace before she trains her arse off for Wimbledon.

Deal with it. It's called life.

tennisjunky
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:09 PM
such hypocrocy! if serena was doing what kim was they would be crucifying her. but with kim, the attitude is, "it's her life", "as long as shes happy", "blah-blah-blah". never liked kim and now i know why.

Nemo_Kool
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:14 PM
I disagree, if serena wanted to retire it's her decision, i'd be upset but i'd respect it. Nobody but the player themselves no what they need, it is their prerogative. It is selfish to expect a player to carry on for your enjoyment regardless of her enjoying it or not.

ToeTag
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:15 PM
Go Franny!! :)

gmak
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:19 PM
Schiavone should try and win a title first :lol: :lol:
she's 27 and all she's won is a fluke Fed Cup due to Justine's injury :o

and after all, it's Kim's decision! who knows, she may come back later :shrug:
at least she has a life, something many of you don't have...

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:23 PM
such hypocrocy! if serena was doing what kim was they would be crucifying her. but with kim, the attitude is, "it's her life", "as long as shes happy", "blah-blah-blah". never liked kim and now i know why.

So because some people wouldn't say this about Serena, it shouldn't be said about Kim? :scratch: Anyway, Serena can do whatever she may damn well please with her career... I would just make fun of her if she said she was retiring to become an actress. :o But that's her choice... and if she wanted to retire now, she wouldn't owe it to anyone to play on. I don't care if it's Serena or whoever else.

ToeTag
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:27 PM
and after all, it's Kim's decision!yes, yes. It's kim's decision. Her fans like to repeat themselves, I guess.:rolleyes:

That's not Frans point! I don't think FS gives two shits whether milk maid retires or not. It the way she's going about it that irks ppl.

thrust
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:27 PM
Wasn^t Kim^s hip bothering her during her match with Maria?

TheItalianStyle
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:28 PM
Well...If Fran is saying what she thinks what's the problem??
In my opinion it is not important she hasn't won any title...I think many also of the users think Kim hasn't taken the right decision, and I am proud of being one of those...I mean...Probably it was not the best way to retire, to play 6 tournaments to say thank you and goodbye...
If Schiavone can't be considered because she hasn't won a title, Clijsters can't be considered a great TENNIS champion, the greatest are others, Henin, Hingis, Williams, not Clijsters...

brent-o
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:31 PM
Does anyone have a link to where Schiavone said that?

Rocketta
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:31 PM
I disagree, if serena wanted to retire it's her decision, i'd be upset but i'd respect it. Nobody but the player themselves no what they need, it is their prerogative. It is selfish to expect a player to carry on for your enjoyment regardless of her enjoying it or not.

Serena couldn't even take a break without the media being all on her case....Please if she was leaving to get married and ditching major tournaments....there would be editorial after editorial blasting her.

Anyway, Kim wants to be married. I support her if she's tired of tennis then she's tired. I do wish she would just go ahead and end it though. Why didn't she just say bye last year? Why doesn't she just do exhibitions in her favorite places? This 'one toe in' and rest of the body out approach is pointless. :shrug:

ico4498
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:35 PM
in this thread, and its numerous variants, the overwhelming recurring theme is now boring and redundant.

all this critism basically boils down to; some fans can't accept her decision to retire.

tuff tits.

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Well...If Fran is saying what she thinks what's the problem??
In my opinion it is not important she hasn't won any title...I think many also of the users think Kim hasn't taken the right decision, and I am proud of being one of those...I mean...Probably it was not the best way to retire, to play 6 tournaments to say thank you and goodbye...
If Schiavone can't be considered because she hasn't won a title, Clijsters can't be considered a great TENNIS champion, the greatest are others, Henin, Hingis, Williams, not Clijsters...

:lol: at the Milk Maid reference in the post above.

Fran is entitled to her opinion. And I agree that it's irrelevant thow many titles she won. That comment seems rather attention-seeking though. Was she asked about Kim's retirement in an interview?

No Name Face
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:38 PM
such hypocrocy! if serena was doing what kim was they would be crucifying her. but with kim, the attitude is, "it's her life", "as long as shes happy", "blah-blah-blah". never liked kim and now i know why.

a-fucking men.

brent-o
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:38 PM
in this thread, and its numerous variants, the overwhelming recurring theme is now boring and redundant.

all this critism basically boils down to; some fans can't accept her decision to retire.

tuff tits.

It's not her decision to retire that is angering fans. I think most fans have accepted her decision. But it's her indifference and lack of fire in the losses she's had this year that have fans questioning her dedication to her last remaining tournaments. She has already retired, basically.

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:40 PM
Serena couldn't even take a break without the media being all on her case....Please if she was leaving to get married and ditching major tournaments....there would be editorial after editorial blasting her.

The media will always write about Serena. Not as much as about Kim obviously. But there have definitely been negative articles on her retirement posted here.

Anyway, Kim wants to be married. I support her if she's tired of tennis then she's tired. I do wish she would just go ahead and end it though. Why didn't she just say bye last year? Because she's said for a couple of years she would be gone this year?

Why doesn't she just do exhibitions in her favorite places? This 'one toe in' and rest of the body out approach is pointless. :shrug:That's pretty much what she's doing this year. :shrug: Playing the events she wants.

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:41 PM
It's not her decision to retire that is angering fans. I think most fans have accepted her decision. But it's her indifference and lack of fire in the losses she's had this year that have fans questioning her dedication to her last remaining tournaments. She has already retired, basically.

She only had one loss in which she didn't care this year. :o Granted it was bad... but that's hardly the only thing she gets flack for.

mandy7
Mar 19th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Well...If Fran is saying what she thinks what's the problem??
In my opinion it is not important she hasn't won any title...I think many also of the users think Kim hasn't taken the right decision, and I am proud of being one of those...I mean...Probably it was not the best way to retire, to play 6 tournaments to say thank you and goodbye...
If Schiavone can't be considered because she hasn't won a title, Clijsters can't be considered a great TENNIS champion, the greatest are others, Henin, Hingis, Williams, not Clijsters...

blah, blah, blah, tranny should shut it and kim rocks
34 tourneys, a grandslam, 2 yec's means she's a great champ.

and there's no right or wrong decision
this is what kim wants
and she has every right to
nobody HAS TO play till they're 30+

Selah
Mar 19th, 2007, 05:00 PM
I am a bit annoyed with Kim too, have been for some time like most people but I don't get why people keep acting like this isn't consistent with her personality. :shrug: It is quite normal for a top player to have a farewell tour of some sorts, and this is what this is, Kim saying goodbye to fans, players, tournament directors. She has always been more concerned about relationships than winning tournaments/slams, she has said this. If you don't like it, fine. But why all the bitching and moaning that she doesn't care about tennis 100% and thus she should just go away and not say bye where and when she wants to. Why should she committ to a full schedule, if her main goal is just saying goodbye. She made this quite clear. I suggest some of you move on like you think she should.

Rocketta
Mar 19th, 2007, 05:11 PM
The media will always write about Serena. Not as much as about Kim obviously. But there have definitely been negative articles on her retirement posted here.

I'm sure there have been negative articles but I bet if Serena does the same thing it would be completely different.


Because she's said for a couple of years she would be gone this year?

Ah, I'm sure there were a lot of things Kim said that didn't end up being so what if she had been saying this year, she could've change her mind and said goodbye last year. I'm sure she told Lleyton she'd love him forever...:tape:....but that changed didn't it? Also, She was telling everyone of her retirement but she did not make it seem like she was going to be barely there in 2007. She made it seem that she was going to play one more year not do a tour of favorite tournaments so she can hang out with friends for the last time. Why bother taking a spot in the tournament? Just show up and hang out, sign some autographs and call it a day.


That's pretty much what she's doing this year. :shrug: Playing the events she wants.

ah one the public would never expect her to give her all and the other they do. It's clear she has no plans to give her all this year except maybe Wimbledon but we'll see. So if it's just to have a good time and say goodbye to the fans....yadda yadda yadda......She can give free/cheap exhibitions in those countries if she wanted to.

Nicolás89
Mar 19th, 2007, 05:16 PM
im tired to reply in every kim retirement thread my point, but....

:spit: at schiavonne, she would love to have a farewell tour that people actually remember and talk about it and pay for see her playing:lol:

Selah
Mar 19th, 2007, 05:21 PM
ah one the public would never expect her to give her all and the other they do. It's clear she has no plans to give her all this year except maybe Wimbledon but we'll see. So if it's just to have a good time and say goodbye to the fans....yadda yadda yadda......She can give free/cheap exhibitions in those countries if she wanted to.

I don't get why you think that is better than what she is doing now. Is she hurting the tour to play a few select tournaments on her way out? Anway, I am done with this as she has already made her decision, and like it or lump it, it is what it is. I guess all that is really left to do, is what we are doing here, wax poetic about it, and not change a damn thing :)

Martian KC
Mar 19th, 2007, 05:24 PM
LFR! Not only is Franny a spitter, but she has a set of balls on her as well.:lol:

Mother_Marjorie
Mar 19th, 2007, 05:26 PM
Francesca Schiavone says ''shes making such a big deal of her last year on the tour,its all a big publicity stunt,attention seeker.''
I've never been a huge fan of Franny's, but she nailed it on the head.

I've always felt that Kim's career rivalry with Justine was often supplemented by Kim's jealous attempts at being "the bigger star" and diminishing Justine's achievements (re: Leo's steroid accusation and the Fed Cup Drama post '06 Wimby).

So, its not so surprising to me that an underachieving talent like Kim would want a big-bang on her way out. Perhaps it will be the only time in her career that she didn't feel overshadowed by Justine.

Rocketta
Mar 19th, 2007, 05:41 PM
I don't get why you think that is better than what she is doing now. Is she hurting the tour to play a few select tournaments on her way out? Anway, I am done with this as she has already made her decision, and like it or lump it, it is what it is. I guess all that is really left to do, is what we are doing here, wax poetic about it, and not change a damn thing :)


Oh I do, when fans go to see their fav in tournaments they expect them to want to win not to be there to hang out with friends and say goodbye to the torunament directors. Now if it's just an exhibition then that's what you expect nothing serious just some good old fun. Oh and another player gets into the main draw. ;)

Oh and that's all we do on this board, that's all we can do as fans isn't it? That's the fun part of it, 2nd guessing it to death. :lol:

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 06:06 PM
I'm sure there have been negative articles but I bet if Serena does the same thing it would be completely different.

I don't know... and I don't know what this has to do with the reaction to Kim's retirement though.


Ah, I'm sure there were a lot of things Kim said that didn't end up being so what if she had been saying this year, she could've change her mind and said goodbye last year. I'm sure she told Lleyton she'd love him forever...:tape:....but that changed didn't it? Also, She was telling everyone of her retirement but she did not make it seem like she was going to be barely there in 2007. She made it seem that she was going to play one more year not do a tour of favorite tournaments so she can hang out with friends for the last time. Why bother taking a spot in the tournament? Just show up and hang out, sign some autographs and call it a day.Of course not all things that Kim said will she won't change her mind about... but what des that have to do with anything? My point was that people have known about when she was going to retire for a while now...yet people act like it's a surprise. Also, she never said that she was going to play a full schedule either way. Even if she had, is she not entitled to change her mind? Saying why not play some exhibitions in her favourite places seems contradictory to saying why doesn't she just show up and sign some autographs. She is essentially doing just that... I don't get the thing about taking up space either??? There is no point in anyone having a last year on tour then... since they are just taking up space because they are retiring anyway? :confused:


ah one the public would never expect her to give her all and the other they do.[B] It's clear she has no plans to give her all this year except maybe Wimbledon but we'll see. So if it's just to have a good time and say goodbye to the fans....yadda yadda yadda......She can give free/cheap exhibitions in those countries if she wanted to.She has no plans to play herself to death... I would certainly hope she gives it her best in the few events she does play, because I doubt she would enter them anyway if she wanted to lose 1st round.

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 06:10 PM
I've never been a huge fan of Franny's, but she nailed it on the head.

I've always felt that Kim's career rivalry with Justine was often supplemented by Kim's jealous attempts at being "the bigger star" and diminishing Justine's achievements (re: Leo's steroid accusation and the Fed Cup Drama post '06 Wimby).

Since when does Leo speak for Kim? :confused: Does Carlos speak for Justine? Also I think Kim and Justine have moved on... I would really love to know how Fran (or you Swami) thinks Kim is seeking attention. Does she have someone distribute flyers to her non-fans like "Follow the latest drama on the retirement of that boring player you don't give a toss about" ?

Rocketta
Mar 19th, 2007, 07:02 PM
I don't know... and I don't know what this has to do with the reaction to Kim's retirement though.

never said it did just that if it was Serena she would be receiving a whole lot more criticism.


Of course not all things that Kim said will she won't change her mind about... but what des that have to do with anything? My point was that people have known about when she was going to retire for a while now...yet people act like it's a surprise. Also, she never said that she was going to play a full schedule either way. Even if she had, is she not entitled to change her mind? Saying why not play some exhibitions in her favourite places seems contradictory to saying why doesn't she just show up and sign some autographs. She is essentially doing just that... I don't get the thing about taking up space either??? There is no point in anyone having a last year on tour then... since they are just taking up space because they are retiring anyway? :confused:

your confusing my points with others. It's not about having a retirement year where you say goodbye. It's about having already checked out mentally and are just going through the motions for whatever reason. I haven't seen Kim give her all in quite a while, in my opinion. I do think she has the right to change her mind. Since she changed her mind and seems to really not want to play much....go all the way.

Considering that most players play week in and week out to be able to live and continue to play it is a big deal when you have one player taking a spot that really doesn't care if she wins or loses. Why not let someone else have that spot and make a little money?

I support Kim in her decision to move on with her life......What I realize is that she's going about it half heartidly. She doesn't give a flying flip anymore. Under those circumstances, why not just play an exhibition where no one cares if you win or lose OR go to tournaments and do fan oriented stuff, hang out and do whatever? That to me would be more reflective of where her heart is at. Like I said we will see at Wimbledon and Eastborne.


She has no plans to play herself to death... I would certainly hope she gives it her best in the few events she does play, because I doubt she would enter them anyway if she wanted to lose 1st round.

There's a big jump from playing herself to death and 6 tournaments. She says herself she's entering to say goodbye, I seriously doubt she cares if she loses round one or the final. If she didn't care at the AO, she's not going to care anywhere.

jazar
Mar 19th, 2007, 07:07 PM
makes is sound like she isnt really bothered about winning, but letting the fans see her one last time

cellophane
Mar 19th, 2007, 07:21 PM
your confusing my points with others. It's not about having a retirement year where you say goodbye. It's about having already checked out mentally and are just going through the motions for whatever reason. I haven't seen Kim give her all in quite a while, in my opinion. I do think she has the right to change her mind. Since she changed her mind and seems to really not want to play much....go all the way.

The only match this year I saw she really didn't give her all in was at the Australian Open with Maria. I don't know about the rest of her matches... it didn't look like she didn't care in Antwerp though.


Considering that most players play week in and week out to be able to live and continue to play it is a big deal when you have one player taking a spot that really doesn't care if she wins or loses. Why not let someone else have that spot and make a little money?

Well... that's where we disagree or at least I'd have to wait until the actual tournaments, because I just don't think she'd enter the few tournaments she did at all if she planned on losing right away. If she shows up and doesn't care, I'll agree with you.


I support Kim in her decision to move on with her life......What I realize is that she's going about it half heartidly. She doesn't give a flying flip anymore. Under those circumstances, why not just play an exhibition where no one cares if you win or lose OR go to tournaments and do fan oriented stuff, hang out and do whatever? That to me would be more reflective of where her heart is at. Like I said we will see at Wimbledon and Eastborne.

I don't think she totally doesn't give a flip anymore... I mean ... why set Wimbledon as her goal if she doesn't care. I would hope she doesn't say she is playing for her fans only to not care when she shows up at the actual event.


There's a big jump from playing herself to death and 6 tournaments. She says herself she's entering to say goodbye, I seriously doubt she cares if she loses round one or the final. If she didn't care at the AO, she's not going to care anywhere.

We'll see. I hope she tries.