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iguales78
Mar 14th, 2007, 05:55 AM
It seems like her injury still affects her game, and if it's not the reason, then I have no idea why she played so badly yesterday. Vera didn't even have to do much ...

I hope she will gather her strength and get a different vibe next time around... I will admire her no matter what, of course, but that game was sloppy... :sad:

ioni
Mar 14th, 2007, 07:14 AM
she lost that's what happened ! more to her self than to Vera but still she lost and choked she could easily won in two sets but menthally she's not were she's supposed to be !

Maria Croft
Mar 14th, 2007, 07:38 AM
She was better then Vera, that was obvious, but her low confidence on her serve got to her, she really served terrible yesterday, I thought it was going better in the second set but then it all fell apart.

lowdowndirty
Mar 14th, 2007, 08:15 AM
Its gotta be the outfit, it makes her look really vulnerable for some strange reason, whereas the outfit she wore at the US Open last year makes her look really imposing.

chloejoey
Mar 14th, 2007, 10:39 AM
i'm really worried of her current form right now, how is she gonna compete in Miami and the rest of the year..i thought her serve is gonna get better after a month's break ..

iguales78
Mar 14th, 2007, 10:41 AM
Hopefully she will be able to improve until Miami...

I still felt like I needed to be there to encourage her...

Dan23
Mar 14th, 2007, 10:53 AM
Theres nothing to get too alarmed about yet...she was still managing to get into a winning position even while playing so far below her usual high standards. Maria believes in herself and with enough matches will find her way again ;)

Andy.
Mar 14th, 2007, 11:26 AM
Theres nothing to get too alarmed about yet...she was still managing to get into a winning position even while playing so far below her usual high standards. Maria believes in herself and with enough matches will find her way again ;)
You always know a way of keeping everyone positive and looking at it logically, I suppose thats my your the Godfather ;) well said mate

Shimizu Amon
Mar 14th, 2007, 12:52 PM
Well she just had a bad moment and that cost her the entire match. Because she totally lost her confidence after losing her game leading 5-4. But it's tennis, it happens.

The most important thing for Masha is to look forward and work on her serve and her confidence.

She will get there when she needs to, when it's her time.

Good luck Masha :hug:

Aravanecaravan
Mar 14th, 2007, 01:03 PM
Theres nothing to get too alarmed about yet...she was still managing to get into a winning position even while playing so far below her usual high standards. Maria believes in herself and with enough matches will find her way again ;)


Agreed. Even when she's this badly off form, there are really only about a dozen players in the world who can beat her. She had nearly 150 UEs in 3 matches, not to mention the God-awful second serve. Even so, she only lost two sets in three matches, and was three points away from beating Zvonareva and moving into the quarters. I note that only 2 of 8 favorites advanced in the 16s.

A hamstring injury is not something that gets fixed in a week, or ten days. You have to stay off of it for a long time. Trying to practice and play with even a mildly strained or sore hamstring is frustrating, because you don't have the movement and flexibility that you need as an athlete. She didn't forget how to serve. She's trying to compensate for an injury that's obviously still hurting her. Honestly, the best thing for her in the long term would be to sit out until RG at least, if not Wimbledon, and make sure her leg is fully recovered, rather than try to rush back into competition just because of public demand.

nelsondan
Mar 14th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Sorry to be simplistic---I wondered if dehydration became a problem later in the match.

Sharapower8
Mar 14th, 2007, 04:44 PM
Nobody know what happened but she just going trought hard times and that's all! she has the right to lost like everybody ;)
Don't worry, we know that she'll be right soon and for her serve...I hope it's because of the injury

XCoco
Mar 14th, 2007, 05:21 PM
Its gotta be the outfit, it makes her look really vulnerable for some strange reason, whereas the outfit she wore at the US Open last year makes her look really imposing.

lolz, I was thinking about that for a moment, seriously :unsure: .

PerfectLie.
Mar 15th, 2007, 03:28 AM
A big part of Maria's game is the confidence, the imposing you're-going-down atittude and it seems that it's not as present as it used to be. I really hope she'll get it back and get back in top shape ASAP.

Aravanecaravan
Mar 15th, 2007, 07:57 AM
did Justine divorce had any effect on her game ?

Who knows, and who cares? Apples and oranges.

Henin's parents didn't divorce. That would be a hell of a lot more shattering to a 19 year old kid who loves her parents than losing a spouse, particularly in an age of 5-minute celebrity marriages.

Now, hopefully, these are just rumors, but you get the uneasy feeling it could conceiveably be true--her parents never really were together all that much after Maria and her dad moved to the States. Maybe being together more, they found out they didn't really like each other. I hope it's not true--that kind of thing would be devastating for anyone, let alone someone who was separated from her mom for such a long period of time.

ioni
Mar 15th, 2007, 08:14 AM
Who knows, and who cares? Apples and oranges.

Henin's parents didn't divorce. That would be a hell of a lot more shattering to a 19 year old kid who loves her parents than losing a spouse, particularly in an age of 5-minute celebrity marriages.

Now, hopefully, these are just rumors, but you get the uneasy feeling it could conceiveably be true--her parents never really were together all that much after Maria and her dad moved to the States. Maybe being together more, they found out they didn't really like each other. I hope it's not true--that kind of thing would be devastating for anyone, let alone someone who was separated from her mom for such a long period of time.

the way posts are posted today :tape:it was just a simple question do personal things have any effect on player 's game ? and how came Justine story with her parents and then her divorce didn't have any effect on her game ? and can someone really like Yuri ? :tape:

ioni
Mar 15th, 2007, 08:35 AM
Sure they do. High level tennis is an extremely mental endeavor. Players who can't concentrate as well aren't as successful.

As for Henin--she deliberately took time off to try to cope with a family problem, not a physical one. When she returned, she wasn't (and isn't) sharp. She won two events over somewhat weak fields, but not before losing sets to players she'd normally pound in straights. So to conclude that her marital problems had no effect on her game, I think, doesn't coincide with how she really played.

and since her parents far as we know aren't divorcing that's not her problemm right now ! but you said her world would be shattered if her parents would divorce but somehow she's ok with her father behaviour [during AO final ,the way he acts during her matches ] i know it's far from the topic but still ...

pigam
Mar 15th, 2007, 08:42 AM
well I just wanted to ask the question, and I thought maybe her fans would "want to know". But I'll delete my intial post.
People who quoted me better delete it too then ;)

pigam
Mar 15th, 2007, 12:25 PM
*edited*

ioni
Mar 15th, 2007, 12:31 PM
I read somewhere on the internet that Maria's parents are in a divorce procedure at the moment (and things are rather ugly).
does anyone know if this is true? I don't want to "drop this bombshell" in GM. If anyone her is certain that is is untrue, I will also delete this post.

true or false delete the post anyway ,and no GM Thread is needed ! :p

pigam
Mar 15th, 2007, 12:33 PM
true or false delete the post anyway ,and no GM Thread is needed ! :p

I wouldn't post it in GM, for sure.
But still, without going into the details. It is a releveant question, no?
thsi could make perfect sense and could be maybe a reason for Maria's mental lapses lately.

ioni
Mar 15th, 2007, 12:37 PM
I wouldn't post it in GM, for sure.
But still, without going into the details. It is a releveant question, no?
thsi could make perfect sense and could be maybe a reason for Maria's mental lapses lately.

did Justine divorce had any effect on her game ?

Dan23
Mar 15th, 2007, 12:55 PM
did Justine divorce had any effect on her game ?Its different when its your parents.
I have also heard these rumours...but there has also been a denial from Max Eisenbud. I'd say this sort of thing would have a huge affect on Maria if it was the case. Definitely not the sort of thing that needs to be let loose in the GM, its hardly even our business.

Aravanecaravan
Mar 15th, 2007, 01:26 PM
the way posts are posted today :tape:it was just a simple question do personal things have any effect on player 's game ? and how came Justine story with her parents and then her divorce didn't have any effect on her game ? and can someone really like Yuri ? :tape:

Sure they do. High level tennis is an extremely mental endeavor. Players who can't concentrate as well aren't as successful.

As for Henin--she deliberately took time off to try to cope with a family problem, not a physical one. When she returned, she wasn't (and isn't) sharp. She won two events over somewhat weak fields, but not before losing sets to players she'd normally pound in straights. So to conclude that her marital problems had no effect on her game, I think, doesn't coincide with how she really played.

xan
Mar 15th, 2007, 03:30 PM
Maria's parents have clearly been separated for a while. that would have an affect on her.

As for her poor play since Madrid, that is probably a combination of her hamstring, any personal strain, and the fact that she still hasn't perfected her serve action. It was good in the Autumn, but she hasn't got the concistency and variety to rely on in serving out matches or holding serve in tight circumstances, that she should have.

Aravanecaravan
Mar 15th, 2007, 04:54 PM
and since her parents far as we know aren't divorcing that's not her problemm right now ! but you said her world would be shattered if her parents would divorce but somehow she's ok with her father behaviour [during AO final ,the way he acts during her matches ] i know it's far from the topic but still ...

I'm not sure how old any of you are, but I've been around long enough and had enough personal experience with it to know that family is more important than anything. It will always matter more than anything else. So Yuri wants his daughter to win. So he he waves his arms around and gestures and gets frustrated. Ask any parent and they'd all answer that they'd much rather be going through whatever it is their kids are going through, because they love them so much and don't want to see them fail. From what I have seen, Yuri is a great Dad. Only people with agendas would view their relationship as anything negative. That was genuine emotion when she (twice) climbed into the stands and ran to hug her father after winning slams. You honestly think she dislikes him?

Evgenia Linetskaya, by contrast, has the kind of father anyone would need to get away from.

ioni
Mar 15th, 2007, 05:09 PM
I'm not sure how old any of you are, but I've been around long enough and had enough personal experience with it to know that family is more important than anything. It will always matter more than anything else. So Yuri wants his daughter to win. So he he waves his arms around and gestures and gets frustrated. Ask any parent and they'd all answer that they'd much rather be going through whatever it is their kids are going through, because they love them so much and don't want to see them fail. From what I have seen, Yuri is a great Dad. Only people with agendas would view their relationship as anything negative. That was genuine emotion when she (twice) climbed into the stands and ran to hug her father after winning slams. You honestly think she dislikes him?

Evgenia Linetskaya, by contrast, has the kind of father anyone would need to get away from.

no she doesn't dislike him .she actually loves her daddy ! but he can learn from his daughter something ! to get over a loss cause after all is just a loss it might hurt a little but still after all is just one tennis match and if she learned how to deal with her losses might just as well her father maybe one day he will learn how to deal with them too ..giving a hug to your kid when she's wining that's easy i guess when she's losing is a little much harder !

nelsondan
Mar 15th, 2007, 06:03 PM
I have a feeling maria will play well enough in Miami to stop a lot of speculation.

That would be nice.

ImaVeggie
Mar 15th, 2007, 09:14 PM
"..giving a hug to your kid when she's wining that's easy i guess when she's losing is a little much harder !"


When she loses, that's when she would need a hug the most, IMO.

schorsch
Mar 16th, 2007, 05:26 PM
yeah, you know how hard it is to be in the stands not able to do anything? you know you're there being helpless. but he loves her and she loves him just as much.
i am a little bit worried about maria though and i wish her all the best. i hope she can just get on with her game and that she'll do well next week... gah...

do you think she's had enough with all this pressure from the media and so on.. i mean everything that distracts you can be dangerous to your game. i think its something mental...
she's got the goods and if she'll find her way again she'll be just fine :-)

we believe in you masha. davai!

~lollipop_girl~
Mar 18th, 2007, 05:13 AM
About the rumours of her parents "divorce", if its true, we might not even find out for another 2 or 3 years even if it is happening now (Danielaesque) so please lets not be talking about it for 2 years without any confirmation :awww:

Maria Croft
Mar 18th, 2007, 09:49 AM
I doubt it has anything to do with a possible divorce, it wouldn't make sense that only her serve would be effected by that, and I agree, let's not even got there until it's more then rumours.