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Volcana
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:42 PM
1r Santangelo
2r Krajicek
3r Petrova
4r Jankovic
QF Kuznetsova

All matches she could lose, but all matches she can win, too.

AaronJoyB
Jan 12th, 2007, 09:04 PM
How can she beats Petrova or Jankovic?

LeRoy.
Jan 12th, 2007, 09:11 PM
Petrova - she can beat but Jelena Jankovic will be a very difficult to beat but if Serena does get to Rd 4 then she will be in good form herself and could try and outmuscle JJ but it would be tough

Pengwin
Jan 12th, 2007, 09:14 PM
That's a great draw IMO, considering she was unseeded and the big babes in form Kim and Maria are far away.

Jank will be tough but she is easily intimidated by strong personalities like Justine and Kim and Serena is the strongest personality of them all.

A'DAM
Jan 12th, 2007, 09:17 PM
1r Santangelo
2r Krajicek
3r Petrova
4r Jankovic
QF Kuznetsova

All matches she could lose, but all matches she can win, too.

Didnt know that those 2r, 3r, 4r, QF spots had been already given to those players above :rolleyes: :tape: :help:

spencercarlos
Jan 12th, 2007, 10:13 PM
1r Santangelo
2r Krajicek
3r Petrova
4r Jankovic
QF Kuznetsova

All matches she could lose, but all matches she can win, too.
This a thread very unlike you Volcana you usually put more reasoning to your posts.
Of course she can win or lose in each of those matches, the point is that, based on her form, losing to a out of top 70 ranked player Bammer last week in the Quarterfinals of a Tier III event, says pretty much where Serena stands at the moment.
At the Australian Open 2005 coming from a nice 2004 Wimbledon and Masters finals, some titles under her belt as well, that Serena had all soars of troubles to get past Petrova in the 4th round and Petrova is a better player now that she was then, i really doubt she can even win a set over Nadia playing like she did in Hobart.
I would never say she is not capable, but i believe she is out of shape phisically and tecnically wise she must be rusty, i have not seen her play yet this year, but i don´t really like her chances at this point i think the third round would be more than enough for Serena this year, i don´t see get going further based on this form.

GoDominique
Jan 12th, 2007, 10:29 PM
Maybe, but Serena is.

thomas.chung
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:04 PM
Serena will be eager for a revenge, just like what she did to Justine (in Wimbledon 03) and Maria (in AO 05).

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:08 PM
That's a great draw IMO, considering she was unseeded and the big babes in form Kim and Maria are far away.

Jank will be tough but she is easily intimidated by strong personalities like Justine and Kim and Serena is the strongest personality of them all.

Someone is forgetting that Jankovic beat Serena in straight sets in a US Open Series tournament.

Honestly even at Serena's peak she would have some difficulty beating Jankovic.

Serena's draw could be worse.
If she somehow finds a way to defend her points here, then she should be happy.

vogus
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:09 PM
the point is that, based on her form, losing to a out of top 70 ranked player Bammer last week in the Quarterfinals of a Tier III event, says pretty much where Serena stands at the moment.




what the result from Hobart suggests is that Serena will lose to Santangelo in the first round, since as a seeded player Santangelo is a considerably better ranked opponent than Bammer.

This draw is all about getting out of the 1st round for Serena. If she can do that, i wouldn't put it past her to beat Krajicek, Petrova and Jankovic and reach the QF.

spencercarlos
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:17 PM
what the result from Hobart suggests is that Serena will lose to Santangelo in the first round, since as a seeded player Santangelo is a considerably better ranked opponent than Bammer.

This draw is all about getting out of the 1st round for Serena. If she can do that, i wouldn't put it past her to beat Krajicek, Petrova and Jankovic and reach the QF.
Its not about the result mainly, its more about the Serena´s form and shape, would she be in better condition, better prepared phisically, i would not bet against her because sooner or later her game will come together, she was not in that great shape at the Usopen last year but, then she had played more matches, beat better quality players and still lost to Mauresmo after running out of gas, this has not been the case this year.

I may think she will get safely into the third round, i think she´ll figure out a way to beat Mara and Krajicek, but the won´t have it enough to make it past Nadia.

spencercarlos
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:22 PM
Maybe, but Serena is.
:lol: :p Godom :o

GoDominique
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:27 PM
This a thread very unlike you Volcana you usually put more reasoning to your posts.
lol

venus_rulez
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:20 AM
I agree with whoever said this is really about getting past the first round. I'm worried about the Santangelo match. She was able to take Serena to 3 sets on grass back in '05 at Wimbledon. Different circumstances, but not much different, Serena wasn't in good shape and was very rusty, which unfortunately isn't much different now. The slower surface to me favors Santangelo as well as she doesn't have to worry as much that she'll just be blown off the court. I'm thinking Serena gets past Mara in 3 brutal sets, but who knows how much that'll take out of her for the rest of the tournie. Never count out a Williams' sister though.

Black Mamba.
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:21 AM
When Serena isn't in shape anything is possible. It pains me to watch Serena lose to players that have no business beating her all because of her fitness.

PLP
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:43 AM
It's a very good draw considering she is unseeded!

Yes, if she gets through Mara, which will be difficult, she should be confident enough to get through MK, if that's who she faces. Of course she is a very talented teen who could score a big upset, so who knows?!

Anyway, if Nadia is well physically I can't see Serena getting past the 3rd rd, but who knows what is going on with Nadia!

Best of luck Rena!!! :bounce: :bounce:

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:08 AM
Honestly, if one player can scrape through a draw it's Serena. Yes I know Bammer defeated her, but it's not like she was blown off court by her...she was up in the match and choked it away. Honestly anything can happen, Petrova is injured....Jankovic defeated Serena in the summer we know how great Serena is at revenge matches regardless of her form. I'm not rulling out anything at this point because it's Serena and it's a slam. ;)

supergrunt
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:17 AM
Someone is forgetting that Jankovic beat Serena in straight sets in a US Open Series tournament.

Honestly even at Serena's peak she would have some difficulty beating Jankovic.

Serena's draw could be worse.
If she somehow finds a way to defend her points here, then she should be happy.

Serena had a trouble beating alot of players at her prime.. not all of her big wins were straight set blow-outs. And her match against Jankovic was very close, seperated by a few break points here and there. I suspect that if Serena does meet Jankovic again, she will have done some studying going into the match. AND, really, if you watch that match (which I have :tears: ) you will see that serena was dictating the points... I can't see her losing twice.

Andrew..
Jan 13th, 2007, 03:34 AM
Serena had a trouble beating alot of players at her prime.. not all of her big wins were straight set blow-outs. And her match against Jankovic was very close, seperated by a few break points here and there. I suspect that if Serena does meet Jankovic again, she will have done some studying going into the match. AND, really, if you watch that match (which I have :tears: ) you will see that serena was dictating the points... I can't see her losing twice.
It wasn't close. Maybe in the first set, but Jankovic didn't have any problems with Serena in the second. And Serena wasn't dictating the points. She'd hit a hard shot down the middle of the court, Jelena would hit it back at Serena, and she had no clue what to do. When the ball got anywhere near her feet, she was totally lost in that match. Serena was huffing and puffing all over the court by the end of the first set, and that only continued for the rest of the match.

Serena was in much better shape and form back in LA than she's in down in Australia. She could always pull out a win, but it would be very, very difficult.

urock34
Jan 13th, 2007, 03:48 AM
It wasn't close. Maybe in the first set, but Jankovic didn't have any problems with Serena in the second. And Serena wasn't dictating the points. She'd hit a hard shot down the middle of the court, Jelena would hit it back at Serena, and she had no clue what to do. When the ball got anywhere near her feet, she was totally lost in that match. Serena was huffing and puffing all over the court by the end of the first set, and that only continued for the rest of the match.

Serena was in much better shape and form back in LA than she's in down in Australia. She could always pull out a win, but it would be very, very difficult.

Well of course she was tierd. Even though she didnt say it she spent more then 4 hours on the court the past 2 days before her match with jankovic. So most players would be

Mother_Marjorie
Jan 13th, 2007, 03:53 AM
If Serena were in better physical condition, and even without a lot of match play, might have a chance against Petrova.

However, in her current form, she would probably be happy to make it to the 3rd round.

Davenselesport
Jan 13th, 2007, 07:08 AM
the back-to-back Petrova-Jankovic will do her in unfortunately

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jan 27th, 2007, 06:03 AM
Maybe, but Serena is.

Ooops :tape:

venusdemilo
Jan 27th, 2007, 06:05 AM
the back-to-back Petrova-Jankovic will do her in unfortunately


........... :devil:

Cybelle Darkholme
Jan 27th, 2007, 06:23 AM
Just want to echo what Venus Rulz said earlier:

Never underestimate a Williams Sister.

Serena, I bow down in awe at such a performance and such strength of will and talent.

Volcana
Jan 31st, 2007, 10:25 PM
This a thread very unlike you Volcana you usually put more reasoning to your posts.
Of course she can win or lose in each of those matches, the point is that, based on her form, losing to a out of top 70 ranked player Bammer last week in the Quarterfinals of a Tier III event, says pretty much where Serena stands at the moment.My only real point was that, compared to what might have been, her draw wasn't bad. She wasn't due to run into any GS winners until the quarters. You really can't ask for more than that, considering how many GS winners are active right now.

No Name Face
Jan 31st, 2007, 10:37 PM
Honestly even at Serena's peak she would have some difficulty beating Jankovic.


i mean :tape: :tape: :tape: :tape:

Denise4925
Jan 31st, 2007, 10:38 PM
:haha: I love it.

RenaSlam.
Jan 31st, 2007, 10:38 PM
i mean :tape: :tape: :tape: :tape:

I've definitely not taken anything WannaBe says now seriously...he claims Maria Sharapova is equally as good a mover as Mauresmo :lol:

and now that comment..:tape:

spencercarlos
Jan 31st, 2007, 10:45 PM
My only real point was that, compared to what might have been, her draw wasn't bad. She wasn't due to run into any GS winners until the quarters. You really can't ask for more than that, considering how many GS winners are active right now.
I may think she will get safely into the third round, i think she´ll figure out a way to beat Mara and Krajicek, but the won´t have it enough to make it past Nadia.

But it turned out to be that Petrova was the toughest challenge that Serena faced and in fact had her on the ropes 6-1 5-3. I was expecting Serena to lose to Nadia indeed, but boy she really picked up her form from there and never looked back.

Its not about the result mainly, its more about the Serena´s form and shape, would she be in better condition, better prepared phisically, i would not bet against her because sooner or later her game will come together, she was not in that great shape at the Usopen last year but, then she had played more matches, beat better quality players and still lost to Mauresmo after running out of gas, this has not been the case this year.

As i stated i would never say Serena is not capable, because i know what she can do at her best, and how much she can dominate womens tennis when she is at her best, but going in from where she was, it was very unthinkcable by many that she would go all the way like she did.

hotandspicey
Jan 31st, 2007, 10:48 PM
If Serena were in better physical condition, and even without a lot of match play, might have a chance against Petrova.

However, in her current form, she would probably be happy to make it to the 3rd round.

:haha: :haha: She looked mighty darn happy on Ellen today!!:devil:

Stamp Paid
Jan 31st, 2007, 11:34 PM
Maybe, but Serena is.

:spit:

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 31st, 2007, 11:39 PM
i mean :tape: :tape: :tape: :tape:

It was going on the premise of Serena having difficulty all her career against players who move good, who can hit winners off of both side, and who can mix in variety.
So Jankovic didn't show up that day.
Serena still showed that difficulty against Peer in the tourni.

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 31st, 2007, 11:46 PM
I've definitely not taken anything WannaBe says now seriously...he claims Maria Sharapova is equally as good a mover as Mauresmo :lol:

and now that comment..:tape:

I think I'll take a few lines from Kobe Bryant for this one:
Do I know you?
I don't know this kid,
I might have had one or two responses to you.
I think someone overreacts to stuff. I don't think about you.
I don't know you.
I don't need to know you.
I don't want to.
It's just entertainment at the end of the day. Maybe you forgot that.

Derek.
Jan 31st, 2007, 11:52 PM
If Serena were in better physical condition, and even without a lot of match play, might have a chance against Petrova.

However, in her current form, she would probably be happy to make it to the 3rd round.


Oh Swami. :hearts:

No Name Face
Feb 1st, 2007, 12:50 AM
It was going on the premise of Serena having difficulty all her career against players who move good, who can hit winners off of both side, and who can mix in variety.
So Jankovic didn't show up that day.
Serena still showed that difficulty against Peer in the tourni.

uhm, but serena wasn't/isn't at her peak. she might be back but non-peak serena can still win slams. peak serena wins slams without dropping a set. but anyway, did you see the match? jankovic wasn't half bad.

HippityHop
Feb 1st, 2007, 01:22 AM
Prognostication is difficult, isn't it? ;)

CrossCourt~Rally
Feb 1st, 2007, 01:24 AM
:haha: :haha: She looked mighty darn happy on Ellen today!!:devil:


She looked really nice AND was very funny:worship:

-VSR-
Feb 1st, 2007, 01:34 AM
Serena pwns.

SJW
Feb 1st, 2007, 02:21 AM
Loves it :haha:

ico4498
Feb 1st, 2007, 03:15 AM
I think I'll take a few lines from Kobe Bryant for this one:
Do I know you?

post your stuff anyone can respond.

silly response.

Janet
Feb 1st, 2007, 03:23 AM
Which tourament is this serena is playing in??

Janet
Feb 1st, 2007, 03:28 AM
I forgot to post my comment on serena win in the A/O it was so great to see serena WIN the BIG TROPHY all the haters & douters was talking about her so bad I could not belive it................But just to show everyone she is a fighter and always belive in herself which is a good thing to carry around in side......So all the best to her for the tennis season.

spartanfan
Feb 1st, 2007, 04:26 AM
Honestly, if one player can scrape through a draw it's Serena. Yes I know Bammer defeated her, but it's not like she was blown off court by her...she was up in the match and choked it away. Honestly anything can happen, Petrova is injured....Jankovic defeated Serena in the summer we know how great Serena is at revenge matches regardless of her form. I'm not rulling out anything at this point because it's Serena and it's a slam. ;)


What a prophet.:worship: Nice call. I'm a huge Serena fan, but my faith had wained. I didn't think she could do it, but she proved us all wrong and reminded me why I love her more than any player alive.

Veronique
Feb 1st, 2007, 05:13 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rocketta
Feb 1st, 2007, 06:08 AM
That's why I"m a Serena fan for life, she makes the just haters look like just idiots! :rolls:

Denise4925
Feb 1st, 2007, 04:04 PM
Someone is forgetting that Jankovic beat Serena in straight sets in a US Open Series tournament.

Honestly even at Serena's peak she would have some difficulty beating Jankovic.

Serena's draw could be worse.
If she somehow finds a way to defend her points here, then she should be happy.

:weirdo: :haha:

Denise4925
Feb 1st, 2007, 04:07 PM
Maybe, but Serena is.

:lol: :o I wonder what it feels like to have egg all over your face. :tape: :o :lol:

Dawn Marie
Feb 1st, 2007, 04:31 PM
I love it when Serena Williams shut up all the announcers. She made them look like idiots in 05. She did it again in 07.

Anyway, Why do people praise FED X but hated the Williams domination?

~Eclipsed~
Feb 1st, 2007, 04:36 PM
I love it when Serena Williams shut up all the announcers. She made them look like idiots in 05. She did it again in 07.

Anyway, Why do people praise FED X but hated the Williams domination?

Good question. :scratch:

Sanneriet
Feb 1st, 2007, 07:18 PM
I love it when Serena Williams shut up all the announcers. She made them look like idiots in 05. She did it again in 07.

Anyway, Why do people praise FED X but hated the Williams domination?

I don't know about praising. Matt Cronin and Charles Bricker both recently wrote articles saying Federer is killing mens tennis, it is boring with him winning all the time, why can't the other players step it up etc? Sound familiar? Imagine if Federer had a brother and they were appearing in all the finals together, I think they would get as much grief.