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Marcell
Jan 12th, 2007, 04:27 PM
Clijsters beats Jankovic - and crowd

January 13, 2007


SYDNEY'S tennis favourite, Kim Clijsters, was sensationally booed and jeered at and then given a rapturous cheer as she staged a remarkable comeback to counter the powerful game of rising Serbian star Jelena Jankovic in the final of the Sydney International last night.

World No.5 Clijsters, appearing in her last match in Sydney having foreshadowed her retirement this year, won the controversial match 4-6, 7-6, 6-4 after Jankovic lost her composure in the last set amid a mass of disputed line calls. Both women were in tears after the two hour, 27 minute match: Clijsters just thrilled with her amazing win that adds to her 2003 Sydney victory, and Jankovic pondering what might have been.

Jankovic seemingly had control late in the second set, up 5-4 and serving for the championship, but she couldn't counter Clijsters's experience, and quickly slumped as close decisions went against her.

While there was so much drama on the court, the rowdy battle in the stands was also theatrical and tension-packed. Umpire Lynn Welch had to repeatedly call for quiet in the stands and reprimand the crowd about their unsporting antics, which had tennis observers upset on behalf of Clijsters.

A small section of the capacity crowd, dressed in Serbian football attire, was pro-Jankovic, and jeering Clijsters no matter whether the point was being won or lost.

Commentator Kerryn Pratt said: "The vocal minority don't understand the tennis etiquette."

But Jankovic, too, was at times pushing the barrier of sportsmanship. The Serb has the lip-glossed pout, and boy did she use it last night as her remarkable nine-match winning streak this year, which included victory at the Auckland tournament last week, came to a hasty finish.

There was a sense of "the madame" about the 21-year-old, and it seems only a matter of time before she accumulates a string of trophies and becomes one of the most controversial figures in the game.

Jankovic questioned several calls, had a small spat with a ball boy, and glared fiercely at a lineswoman who had recanted a call. And on a couple of calls she disagreed with she ran her hand in front of her face as if to say "you can't see".

The non-Serbian element of the crowd, many of whom had started with a neutral view, quickly switched to support Clijsters, whose calm demeanour and classy play has attracted strong support from Australians ever since she started dating former boyfriend Lleyton Hewitt.

Jankovic began to lose her cool during the tie-breaker in the second set. She double faulted three times, and then with five break points to save, she inexplicably failed to respond to Clijsters's return of serve, thinking she had again served a fault.

Clijsters had come back from 5-4 down and was so thrilled at winning the set she clenched her fist and screamed "c'mon". Clijsters then shot ahead 4-0 in the third set, eventually wrapping it up 6-4.
Clijsters said during her acceptance speech that as soon as she walked out, she knew that there would be an atmosphere generated.

"We could have had a soccer ball out here," Clijsters said.

Jankovic said she was hoping that because it was Clijsters' last game in Sydney, she may have been generous enough to let her win. "But it didn't happen," Jankovic said.

Ryan
Jan 12th, 2007, 04:30 PM
It sounds amazing! Frankly, tennis etiquette is pretty damn boring. Although jeering players isnt the best, and disrupting play sucks, I love when a crowd is boisterous and divided between the players, competing to see who can be louder.

gibberish
Jan 12th, 2007, 04:33 PM
It was just damn disrespectful at times. Especially during Kim's speech. Cheering for your fave is great but deliberately making noise during serves and holding up play isn't. And being snarky and rude when people do the same thing to your fave smacks of hypocrisy.

Still, it was part of an amazing atmosphere.

tennismaster8820
Jan 12th, 2007, 04:40 PM
It sounds amazing! Frankly, tennis etiquette is pretty damn boring. Although jeering players isnt the best, and disrupting play sucks, I love when a crowd is boisterous and divided between the players, competing to see who can be louder.

The best example of that kind of atmosphere was 2001 Wimbledon finale Rafter - Ivanisevic! It was amazing, crowd was full of pure tennis fans!:worship:

gibberish
Jan 12th, 2007, 04:42 PM
Hell I wish I'd been there. I would have totally been supporting Goran even though I'm an Aussie.

Mrs. Peel
Jan 12th, 2007, 04:44 PM
I am looking forward to watching this match tonight! That kind of behaviour is seriously ignorant though :tape: :help: How in the hell can you boo Kim Clijsters? :confused: The girl is an :angel: :kiss:

It must be exciting for them to have a great player coming up like this but :unsure:

Leo_DFP
Jan 12th, 2007, 04:48 PM
I wish I could have seen this match! Will someone upload it?

ViennaCalling
Jan 12th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Jelena :hearts:

steffiforever
Jan 12th, 2007, 05:01 PM
Hell I wish I'd been there. I would have totally been supporting Goran even though I'm an Aussie.

I would never cheer for Goran has he a rude homophobic assh*&^

ezekiel
Jan 12th, 2007, 05:04 PM
It was just damn disrespectful at times. Especially during Kim's speech. Cheering for your fave is great but deliberately making noise during serves and holding up play isn't. And being snarky and rude when people do the same thing to your fave smacks of hypocrisy.

Still, it was part of an amazing atmosphere.

it's all the kids, frankly organizers need to ban these wanna be soccer hooligans that cause tensions and masquerade as tennis fans

Myggen
Jan 12th, 2007, 05:43 PM
Reminds me of the gang Baghdatis has with him in Australia. This bunch is the same. Just respectless and with no clue what tennis is all about.

GQGuy1
Jan 12th, 2007, 05:44 PM
This reminds me of happen when Jankovic and Serena played. Do tell me all Serbian are as stupid and classless an Jankovic.

Leopold Stotch
Jan 12th, 2007, 05:53 PM
This reminds me of happen when Jankovic and Serena played. Do tell me all Serbian are as stupid and classless an Jankovic.
Well we can't all be as intelligent and classy as dem der Amerikuns.

ToeTag
Jan 12th, 2007, 05:54 PM
The vocal minority don't understand the tennis etiquette."So? Tennis is too prissy and boring at times anyway.

KClijsters
Jan 12th, 2007, 05:56 PM
I wish I could have seen this match! Will someone upload it?

that would be great !
It was a great match to watch :)

TomTennis
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:01 PM
cant believe they booed Kim of all players, but does sound exciting in the sense of drama.

I love it when the crowd get involved, it makes matches so much more tense, its what tennis is missing some of the time!

Hashim.
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:09 PM
but the thing is tht KIM won so there's no need to speak against Jankovic..:D :bounce:

Leopold Stotch
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:10 PM
So? Tennis is too prissy and boring at times anyway.
Some might say that an atmosphere like today's is good for the sport and that's the way the game should evolve whilst others insist that fan behavior like today's is well out of order and that tennis should retain its (fake, imo) elitist facade eventhough it isn't an elitist sport anymore.

Tenis Srbija
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:13 PM
This reminds me of happen when Jankovic and Serena played. Do tell me all Serbian are as stupid and classless an Jankovic.

Oh get over yourself an yours hat towards JJ... :rolleyes:

ayusania
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:17 PM
yay kim won!!!!

kinglear
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:19 PM
cant believe they booed Kim of all players, but does sound exciting in the sense of drama.

I love it when the crowd get involved, it makes matches so much more tense, its what tennis is missing some of the time!



Exactly! Which makes you only think they were booing for no reason, which I'm sure they were. I do think it was rude, and you know it was only the Serbian fans booing. Oh well, Kim was very gracious. Plus, JJ can't help that her fans are rude and ignorant. I still can't believe all the booing because there weren't even any line call disagreements. :rolleyes:

vutt
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:29 PM
Some might say that an atmosphere like today's is good for the sport and that's the way the game should evolve whilst others insist that fan behavior like today's is well out of order and that tennis should retain its (fake, imo) elitist facade eventhough it isn't an elitist sport anymore.

So let's stop beating around the bush and let me ask you direct question then: do you agree the way how JJ fans acted today?

Tenis Srbija
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:33 PM
No one agrees, but we are saying that we do understand them :)

Sara81
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:35 PM
Djees Kim got pissed when they interupted her speech for the second time .. if looks could kill :lol:
Een dikke proficiat Kimmeke, I so love to see you play like this :hug:

Brooklyn90
Jan 12th, 2007, 06:39 PM
Oh get over yourself an yours hat towards JJ... :rolleyes:
Hypocrite!!!
You'r the one hating on Serena every chance you get, you'r the one who needs to get over yourself.

Kitty84
Jan 12th, 2007, 07:11 PM
What I would like to know, is how some of you would have reacted if it were the other way around. Imagine Jelena being booed and laughed at when she hit a ball wrong, being shouted at when she wanted ro serve. Imagine that she was going to retire from tennis and gave her last speech in Sydney, but some ignorant Belgian fans just had to interrupt her constantly, yelling and booing out of disrespect. I bet we would have loads of Serbs moaning and complaining about the behaviour of the crowd.

And now you simply say you understand? It's not because you guys are used to this kind of behaviour in soccer and basketball matches that you are supposed to act that way all the time. It is certainly not because tennis is an elitist sport that you should keep quiet during serve and games, it's because it's an individual sport (unlike your soccer and basketball) in which people need to concentrate. Next time support your player in a respectful manner and not by behaving so rudely against the other player or other spectators.

GQGuy1
Jan 12th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Oh get over yourself an yours hat towards JJ... :rolleyes:

Your Engish is HORRIBLE. It's and not an, hate not hat.:lol:

Natash.
Jan 12th, 2007, 07:16 PM
What I would like to know, is how some of you would have reacted if it were the other way around. Imagine Jelena being booed and laughed at when she hit a ball wrong, being shouted at when she wanted ro serve. Imagine that she was going to retire from tennis and gave her last speech in Sydney, but some ignorant Belgian fans just had to interrupt her constantly, yelling and booing out of disrespect. I bet we would have loads of Serbs moaning and complaining about the behaviour of the crowd.

And now you simply say you understand? It's not because you guys are used to this kind of behaviour in soccer and basketball matches that you are supposed to act that way all the time. It is certainly not because tennis is an elitist sport that you should keep quiet during serve and games, it's because it's an individual sport (unlike your soccer and basketball) in which people need to concentrate. Next time support your player in a respectful manner and not by behaving so rudely against the other player or other spectators.

Thank you. :worship:

Postcard
Jan 12th, 2007, 07:24 PM
"it's all the kids"

The guys who were supporting Jelena the other day (who, by the way, she TOTALLY ignored) didn't seem to be kids - they appeared to be middle-aged.

Mina Vagante
Jan 12th, 2007, 07:30 PM
STUPID jankovic fans:fiery: well done jelena and kim;)

LoveFifteen
Jan 12th, 2007, 07:36 PM
What I would like to know, is how some of you would have reacted if it were the other way around. Imagine Jelena being booed and laughed at when she hit a ball wrong, being shouted at when she wanted ro serve. Imagine that she was going to retire from tennis and gave her last speech in Sydney, but some ignorant Belgian fans just had to interrupt her constantly, yelling and booing out of disrespect. I bet we would have loads of Serbs moaning and complaining about the behaviour of the crowd.

And now you simply say you understand? It's not because you guys are used to this kind of behaviour in soccer and basketball matches that you are supposed to act that way all the time. It is certainly not because tennis is an elitist sport that you should keep quiet during serve and games, it's because it's an individual sport (unlike your soccer and basketball) in which people need to concentrate. Next time support your player in a respectful manner and not by behaving so rudely against the other player or other spectators.


:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

It couldn't have been said any better.

Bounty Hunter
Jan 12th, 2007, 07:44 PM
What I would like to know, is how some of you would have reacted if it were the other way around. Imagine Jelena being booed and laughed at when she hit a ball wrong, being shouted at when she wanted ro serve. Imagine that she was going to retire from tennis and gave her last speech in Sydney, but some ignorant Belgian fans just had to interrupt her constantly, yelling and booing out of disrespect. I bet we would have loads of Serbs moaning and complaining about the behaviour of the crowd.

And now you simply say you understand? It's not because you guys are used to this kind of behaviour in soccer and basketball matches that you are supposed to act that way all the time. It is certainly not because tennis is an elitist sport that you should keep quiet during serve and games, it's because it's an individual sport (unlike your soccer and basketball) in which people need to concentrate. Next time support your player in a respectful manner and not by behaving so rudely against the other player or other spectators.


Well said!

tennisjunky
Jan 12th, 2007, 07:47 PM
jelena is becoming the new villian in womens tennis.

Myggen
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:34 PM
Some might say that an atmosphere like today's is good for the sport and that's the way the game should evolve whilst others insist that fan behavior like today's is well out of order and that tennis should retain its (fake, imo) elitist facade eventhough it isn't an elitist sport anymore.

I would say tennis is still certainly an elitist sport. To really have a go as a pro you really need tons of money and most kids don't even have to worry about dreaming they could make it. I once lived in Mexico and some of the kids running around making 5 bucks a day collecting the balls the rich kids were hitting out of the tennis club were sometimes much more talented, but had zero chances even playing in local tournaments because they couldn't afford the 25 dollar entry fee. So yes, tennis is still very much elitist.

Mileen
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:36 PM
This reminds me of happen when Jankovic and Serena played. Do tell me all Serbian are as stupid and classless an Jankovic.

I have to say, I am starting to think that way. Based on Jancovic's behavior today as well as during some other matches, as well as that small part of the serbian public, with their stupid & ugly soccer outfit. Wear the clothes you want, but behave when you're a guest at another sportsevent, and respect the rules, at least. It was really annoying, and very disrespectful. Imo, Kim has lost 2 points because of that; they were dilibirately making noise and shouting things during her serve for instance. Also Jancovic wasn't simply able to respect and accept what were just right calls (except for maybe 1 call who was questionable - which still doesn't mean it was a false call).

Mileen
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:42 PM
No one agrees, but we are saying that we do understand them :)

"understand" ?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Mileen
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:44 PM
Hypocrite!!!
You'r the one hating on Serena every chance you get, you'r the one who needs to get over yourself.

:worship: :worship:

Wayn77
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:45 PM
What I would like to know, is how some of you would have reacted if it were the other way around. Imagine Jelena being booed and laughed at when she hit a ball wrong, being shouted at when she wanted ro serve. Imagine that she was going to retire from tennis and gave her last speech in Sydney, but some ignorant Belgian fans just had to interrupt her constantly, yelling and booing out of disrespect. I bet we would have loads of Serbs moaning and complaining about the behaviour of the crowd.

And now you simply say you understand? It's not because you guys are used to this kind of behaviour in soccer and basketball matches that you are supposed to act that way all the time. It is certainly not because tennis is an elitist sport that you should keep quiet during serve and games, it's because it's an individual sport (unlike your soccer and basketball) in which people need to concentrate. Next time support your player in a respectful manner and not by behaving so rudely against the other player or other spectators.

We are only talking a minority: let's not get on Jelena's back because of a few rowdy beer'd up teenage supporters in the crowd: look how the two players embraced with no ill-feeling at the end. Great having a bit of atmosphere and the crowd involved in the big matches. The shouting out during serves and booing today was unacceptable: in future they should be warned - any repeat, the game stopped and the hooligans thrown out.

SilK
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:48 PM
oooh, all just shut up...

we live for this drama. these are the matches we're here for in the end. we like bringing them up years from now and give the incidents names. it happened with 'the hand' and 'the call' and 'the tiebreak' controvercies.

A player like Jelena, with such a presence and character is great for tennis. Too bad the Serb fans are indeed a little too rowdy!

Corswandt
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:58 PM
Some might say that an atmosphere like today's is good for the sport and that's the way the game should evolve whilst others insist that fan behavior like today's is well out of order and that tennis should retain its (fake, imo) elitist facade eventhough it isn't an elitist sport anymore.

It's not a matter of "atmosphere", or of elitism vs selling the game to the masses or whatever you want to call it.

It's just that whistling, booing and assorted crowd noise are 10.000 times more distracting and disrupting for a tennis player than for (say) a footballer, because tennis is an individual sport that depends on split-second timing during each and every point. The slightest loss of focus may prove fatal.

But compared to what the Belgian crowd did on the Fed Cup final (Santangelo vs Flipper), this was nothing. And guess what - the thread about that match was filled with Belgians attempting to justify the unjustifiable.

Postcard
Jan 12th, 2007, 10:23 PM
Two of the loudest crowds that I have ever seen were also two of the most respectful, appreciative and good-natured crowds - when Australia played Colombia (including on Colombia's National Day) and the Netherlands in the Fed Cup in Wollongong a few years ago.

miss_molik
Jan 12th, 2007, 10:24 PM
I was there, and at times it just got rude. People were calling 'out' in the middle of points and laughing and even after the umpire said quiet please, they kept calling out. Some people just have no self control. There were like 5 or 6 different serbian groups and they all chipped in. I thought the booing was so unsportsmanlike. That, was just terrible. But its not Jelena's fault her fans are like that. They need to be more like the Smash 'em sam crowd. :p

Kart
Jan 12th, 2007, 10:26 PM
After reading this thread I watched a bit of the match.

The tennis was good but I didn't think Jelena behaved that badly.

I might have felt differently if Kim had lost or if I'd been watching it live not knowing the result I concede.

Couver
Jan 12th, 2007, 10:27 PM
jelena is becoming the new villian in womens tennis.

I would hope not, that would be sad indeed. Those disruptive fans may have been her fans, but I think most rationale people will agree that a player has no control over what their fans do on their behalf. I'm pretty sure Jankovic wouldn't be pleased to have fans that jeer and taunt other players anymore than any player would. But she can't control what they do. Their behaviour was disgusting and uncalled for though.

I'm glad Kim was able to shut it out and win.

kiwifan
Jan 12th, 2007, 10:35 PM
The best example of that kind of atmosphere was 2001 Wimbledon finale Rafter - Ivanisevic! It was amazing, crowd was full of pure tennis fans!:worship:

I was in Sydney, Kings Cross with a few hundred Lions Rugby supporters for that match...the best time I've ever had watching tennis. :drink: :cool: :drink:

Thanks for the memory. :angel:

Tenis Srbija
Jan 12th, 2007, 10:41 PM
"understand" ?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh please get off my back. You know what I wanted to say.

So like million :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: to you.

Andy.
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:03 PM
I was not happy with those Serbian fans. They were very dissrespectful and rude. They need a lesson in tennis rules and etiquette. This is tennis not football. Cheering for your fav is fine and it certainly adds to the atmosphere but booing and making noise inbetween serves and cheering when Kim faulted is not on.

Viktymise
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:10 PM
Tennis probably would be alot more fun if the crowds were way noisier and boisterous, the booing as long as its not too serios can be exciting ;)

Joana
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:19 PM
Have you people watched tennis at all in the last few years? Things like this happen all the time in Australia lately, with the Serbian, Croatian, Greek, Chinese crowds, among the otehrs. And not to mention the famous crowd at Roland Garros.
I certainly don't approve of such behaviour and I'm not surprised that Australian Serbs did it, it definitely wasn't their first time. But loud crowds are becoming a reality in tennis, like it or not.

hablo
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:25 PM
Have you people watched tennis at all in the last few years? Things like this happen all the time in Australia lately, with the Serbian, Croatian, Greek, Chinese crowds, among the otehrs. And not to mention the famous crowd at Roland Garros.
I certainly don't approve of such behaviour and I'm not surprised that Australian Serbs did it, it definitely wasn't their first time. But loud crowds are becoming a reality in tennis, like it or not.

You forgot the US Open when Baghdatis was playing Agassi, for instance. :p

perseus2006
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:39 PM
Tennis is a sporting event. It should be noisy, boisterous. Silent movies are a thing of the past - tennis is just catching up. It's being dragged yelling and screaming into the latter half of the 20th century - only 50 to 75 years out of date.

BasketBallers don't have problems making freethrows with fans raising hell and waving things around, baseballers don't have trouble pitching and batting in unbelieable conditions with fans, I think tenisists can learn quickly to deal with fans actually enjoying and getting into the sport of tennis. The sport needs more of J-Block, more Greeks, more Serbs and others being really excited about their players and the sport.

Josh.
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:42 PM
2 things:
1: dont blame/get angry at jelena becoz her fans are the one's being rude and rowdy.
2: as people have already said in this thread, we have been waiting for a character to come along in the wemons game for a while and now we finally have one, and now that we have one, everyone is condeming her becoz of explosive personality. she's here to stay, get used to it

Alicia Rocks
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:45 PM
The Jelena fans were a bit rude, especially in the presentation :o :help:

Shows how mentally tough Kim is really :) I like her more after last night ;)

Tenis Srbija
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:46 PM
Everyone who is blaming Jelena Janković is a stupid persone!

She didn't have anything to do with cheering, and whoever claims different didn't see the match...

PLP
Jan 12th, 2007, 11:58 PM
Well the fans were Rude ALL WEEK so I am sure it didn't surprise Kimmie.

I noticed the fans in the 1st game of JJ's 1st match against Hingis...I couldn't figure out why thew crowd would cheer when Martina missed a shot, a 1st serve, I thought something was wrong with the Sound! :lol: Yeah, Martina and Kim are 2 of the most beloved non-Australians, which made it even stranger to me.

Anyway, JJ's fans played their role in every match she played and it was very distracting.
This isn't about being 'elitist', it's about wanting to see the best quality match possible. In tennis it's so much about an individuals' concentration and it is VERY difficult to concentrate when people are shouting DURING the point...it's just wrong! :fiery:

All things considered though, don't blame Jelena. She doesn't control her fans and she was playing her heart out, great matches all week! :drool:

1star
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:21 AM
Clijsters beats Jankovic - and crowd

.....
Jankovic said she was hoping that because it was Clijsters' last game in Sydney, she may have been generous enough to let her win. "But it didn't happen," Jankovic said.Clijisters had to save a match point in the 2nd set, Jankovic was not general enough for Clijister's farewell tour.
http://www.tennis.com/uploadedImages/NNTP_News/NNTP_News_Temp/2007_01_12_clijsters_wins.jpg

nBlade
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:24 AM
Cheering faults, double faults, yelling out between first and second serves, and boo-ing every winner is CRAP - it doesn't matter what colour flag or clothes you are dressed in.

I was at the match and the non-Serbian component of the crowd was very neutral to begin with, but because of the above they rallied behind Kim.

Anyway, Kim did the best thing - she beat their girl!

Winners are grinners and losers can make all the noise they want but it won't change the result!

perseus2006
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:35 AM
plp: "Yeah, Martina and Kim are 2 of the most beloved non-Australians..."

I can agree that Kim is. I think there is only one.

Ben.
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Winners are grinners and losers can make all the noise they want but it won't change the result!

agree :worship: Tennis is a great atmosphere when you got big crowds & supporters cheering behind your favourite in good spirit but not when's there's booing & jeering your opponent on 1st & 2nd serves & calling fault & out in the middle of pts. that is just not on. so it's not jelena's fault for this.

but kim came out the winner & even if some of the serb supporters didn't like it, TOUGH! that just proves that kim is mentally tough to the bone.

pav
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Does make things a bit amusing though,I just came back covered in bloody mud and pissed off, but this thread has made me laugh specially the added insult that it happened to Kimmy Wimmy,I sure she is big enough to take that, anyone who spent years with a little aussie bleeder with his cap on backwards gyrating on top of her and no doubt regularily yelling "C'mon" in her left ear could brush off a bit of JJ support. I watched a tape of Crybaby v Mary and the french crowd at the F.O. the other day and although that was pretty bad, I realised that CB was asking for it a bit and found it funny(not quite so funny when it was live)

PLP
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:51 AM
plp: "Yeah, Martina and Kim are 2 of the most beloved non-Australians..."

I can agree that Kim is. I think there is only one.

Even though you don't like Martina, you can't deny an obvious truth, sorry! :wavey:

Mileen
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:13 AM
Even though you don't like Martina, you can't deny an obvious truth, sorry! :wavey:

That may be true, but you can't name Kim and Martina in one sentence just like that. I'm sorry, but Martina has never been "Aussie Martina" and "Our Martina". Kim on the other hand is still "Our Kim" and "Aussie Kim". Sorry, you'll have to accept that. ;)

shibster
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:24 AM
vid linky (http://www.mininova.org/get/544488)

bmwofoz
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:24 AM
This reminds me of happen when Jankovic and Serena played. Do tell me all Serbian are as stupid and classless an Jankovic.

Ask Damir Dokic

©@®eLess
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:29 AM
I read so many ignorant things here.

1. some of u say all serbs are rude and disrispectfull. This kind of generalizing doesnt make any of you "full of moral and class" people better then those idiots that booed today

2. You attack Jelena because of them. Thats plain stupid and generalizing again.

3. People got to much obsessed with Jelena last couple of weeks. Bandwagoon of haters is fulling up in Sharapova style...some of you even say bad thing about her mother. WTF...woman just sits there quietly


Conclusion

1.Idiotic behavior of some tennis uneducated serbian fans did damage the match. Booeing Kim was way across the line. She's a great person and didnt deserve that. But it WASNT Jelena's fault.
2.There wasnt just 1 bad calls for Jelena...there were few more
3. She's emotional girl and shows her emotions on court- whats bad with that
4.She's classy at loss...and kind and sweet person
5. No player except Myskina ever said anything bad against her
6. You people need too calm down a bit....i know she's a major threat to some of your favorite players now...but really that much hate is not necessary

wateva
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:36 AM
nice to see kim shut them out and shut them up. :)
what a fighter! :bounce:

©@®eLess
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:43 AM
rallied behind Kim.

Anyway, Kim did the best thing - she beat their girl!



what are u 12? ur just same nationalistic as they are...just like them u dont like tennis cause of game....Thats a shame....so many of you pretending true fans, moral and polite...but the truth is you're of worst kind....

Martian Stacey
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:44 AM
Conclusion

1.Idiotic behavior of some tennis uneducated serbian fans did damage the match. Booeing Kim was way across the line. She's a great person and didnt deserve that. But it WASNT Jelena's fault.
2.There wasnt just 1 bad calls for Jelena...there were few more
3. She's emotional girl and shows her emotions on court- whats bad with that
4.She's classy at loss...and kind and sweet person
5. No player except Myskina ever said anything bad against her
6. You people need too calm down a bit....i know she's a major threat to some of your favorite players now...but really that much hate is not necessary

All good points, except I think it would have benifited Jelena if she could have controlled her emotions a bit more when she got those contriversial line calls. I think after that she really lost her focus, she fell apart in the tiebreak and the opening games of the third set.

Martie
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:49 AM
jelena is becoming the new villian in womens tennis.

Could someone please explain to me exactly why?? I've seen her play in Auckland twice, and the people here seem to love her???

I know she can lose her temper sometimes with calls, but who doesn't?

Mileen
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:51 AM
It's not a matter of "atmosphere", or of elitism vs selling the game to the masses or whatever you want to call it.

It's just that whistling, booing and assorted crowd noise are 10.000 times more distracting and disrupting for a tennis player than for (say) a footballer, because tennis is an individual sport that depends on split-second timing during each and every point. The slightest loss of focus may prove fatal.

But compared to what the Belgian crowd did on the Fed Cup final (Santangelo vs Flipper), this was nothing. And guess what - the thread about that match was filled with Belgians attempting to justify the unjustifiable.

That's no comparison at all. You weren't there, were you. That's probably why things got explained. The Belgians were just excited about the match and supporting their player. Furthermore, I was sitting nearby a kid with his parents, when the opponent hit a double fault. The kid reacted: yeah! (not even that hard). He was immediately corrected by his parents (I know a certain country where it's the opposite: they would think the kids reaction to be funny).
Today was totally different, really disrespectful. They were purposefully disrupting the game, and disrupting the opponent. Sometimes even, it made no sense at all when they were screaming. To give you one last example, they shouted "out" during play! Excuse me!

In summary, there is no need to involve the Belgian crowd. I guess you were annoyed then, because your fav lost, and are annoyed now for the same reason (but correct me if I'm wrong, maybe you ment it differently). Anyway, don't attack someone else when you're trying to defend yourself.

Tenis Srbija
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:51 AM
I think this thread got more atention than it deserves! Like you are all now schocked, like you never seen this before :shrug:

Croats always make trouble at Aussie Open... Chinese were also very loud during the points last year. Baghdatis and his fans...don't get me started.

Most of you has proven to be racists! You were not in Serbia ever, and you most probably don't know one Serb, and you are talking about Serbian folks, based on that crew that was at the matches in Sydney. That's very bad thing to do! Half of you don't even know what our people has been through. I just hate American when come here and speak about how "bad" Serbians are. That's just....no words! Look at you, you are fighting wares where ever you can do that...just phatetic!

So just piss off, and relax! I'm sure that fans didn't impact any player, so she lost cuz of them...100 per cent sure!!!

So c'mon JJ, best of luck in Melbourne :yeah:

Martie
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:52 AM
oooh, all just shut up...

we live for this drama. these are the matches we're here for in the end. we like bringing them up years from now and give the incidents names. it happened with 'the hand' and 'the call' and 'the tiebreak' controvercies.

A player like Jelena, with such a presence and character is great for tennis. Too bad the Serb fans are indeed a little too rowdy!

:yeah: I agree, it's not like Jelena invited them...

Tenis Srbija
Jan 13th, 2007, 01:55 AM
That's no comparison at all. You weren't there, were you. That's probably why things got explained. The Belgians were just excited about the match and supporting their player. Furthermore, I was sitting nearby a kid with his parents, when the opponent hit a double fault. The kid reacted: yeah! (not even that hard). He was immediately corrected by his parents (I know a certain country where it's the opposite: they would think the kids reaction to be funny).
Today was totally different, really disrespectful. They were purposefully disrupting the game, and disrupting the opponent. Sometimes even, it made no sense at all when they were screaming. To give you one last example, they shouted "out" during play! Excuse me!

In summary, there is no need to involve the Belgian crowd. I guess you were annoyed then, because your fav lost, and are annoyed now for the same reason (but correct me if I'm wrong, maybe you ment it differently). Anyway, don't attack someone else when you're trying to defend yourself.


You are talking like "You waren't there, where you?" and you were in Sydney?
Saying one in that case, the other in this one...

It's so obvious when someone is just pissed that Jelena is great girl, so down to earth, and playing some amazing tennis! Live, and let her live! She didn't do anything, expect beating some you fav, or something like that.

It's just sad how someone (starter of this thread) has directed attention to this - instead of attention being of magnificant play of Janković and Clijsters...

©@®eLess
Jan 13th, 2007, 02:07 AM
Put the fire down people! This is becoming ridiculous....This whole forum is just :o

Ignorance at every thread, hate and disrespecting players, nations, religions....

And you all think you know best, that you're just so smart so everyone else is just plain stupid, you all show yourself so polite and so classy...and yet all your posts are full of hate....

But on the other hand i think average age on this board is 14....so there's nothing i can do really...

Tenis Srbija
Jan 13th, 2007, 02:09 AM
I agree. This should STOP! Please, close this thread. So many hate in one place :(

plantman
Jan 13th, 2007, 02:52 AM
I agree. This should STOP! Please, close this thread. So many hate in one place :(


You're like the Energizer Bunny! You keep going on and on and on................................................ .................................................. ................................................an d on! Give it a rest!

Crazy Canuck
Jan 13th, 2007, 03:22 AM
Generalizations are awesome.

Tenis Srbija
Jan 13th, 2007, 03:31 AM
You're like the Energizer Bunny! You keep going on and on and on................................................ .................................................. ................................................an d on! Give it a rest!

Whatever :rolleyes:

Ben.
Jan 13th, 2007, 03:34 AM
You're like the Energizer Bunny! You keep going on and on and on................................................ .................................................. ................................................an d on! Give it a rest!

:lol:

Veritas
Jan 13th, 2007, 04:26 AM
I suspect that a lot of the Serbs there cared more about Jelena's nationality than the sport being played - otherwise they would've appreciated some of the amazing points Kim played out. I tend to agree with the commentators that many were probably soccer crowds that decided to substitute tennis for the lack of football being played.

The booing against some of the close line calls was understandable. I felt sorry for Jelena at times because it did seem as if the umpire and lines people were against her. Holding match point at 5-4 and losing it isn't easy. She was amazing and it's shit to see how discouraged she ended up and therefore went down 0-4 in the third set.

But it got retarded when they booed Kim for fighting her heart out and covering the court so well. I've never heard an umpire telling a crowd to shut-up so many times when players are about to serve. And it's common courtesy to keep quiet when a speech is being made, but of course that didn't happen.

A sport doesn't need people booing or jeering to be "exciting" (which is a poor excuse to justify bad behaviour).

Veritas
Jan 13th, 2007, 04:31 AM
No one agrees, but we are saying that we do understand them :)

Even when Kim was serving?

Even when Kim won amazing points?

Even when Kim made her acceptance speech?

IMO, the only time in that match the booing was "understandable" was when those suspect line calls were made.

Veritas
Jan 13th, 2007, 04:34 AM
It is certainly not because tennis is an elitist sport that you should keep quiet during serve and games, it's because it's an individual sport (unlike your soccer and basketball) in which people need to concentrate.

EXACTLY! :yeah:

When people are in a team (e.g. soccer) it's easier to take on a crowd because the burden's shared.

In tennis, it's one against thousands.

I mean, are there still people out there who don't understand that tennis and soccer are different sports? :lol: :tape: It's a very simple point.

Uranus
Jan 13th, 2007, 09:03 AM
lmao... I have to say there were a lot of Serbian flags in the crowd yesterday and the people holding them were pretty noisy :lol: Even during points and so on, sometimes I thought it was a linesman and actually, no! :lol:
But it was funny. I understand if it bothered Kim. At the beginning we could see it did. And her speech was a bit sarcastic :devil: :)
Mmh, she's not playing Fed Cup this year and this will remind her of that! :p

Petersmiler
Jan 13th, 2007, 10:27 AM
I'm speechless. I'm guessing you lot are complete saints as you're so able to cast your stones!

Get a grip.

-GenEz.Williams
Jan 13th, 2007, 12:48 PM
KIM won!!HEHE
they were so loud

MistyGrey
Jan 13th, 2007, 02:42 PM
I didnt know the crowd was that rude.. Makes the win sweeter!
Go Kim ! Win the AO!!

bellascarlett
Jan 13th, 2007, 05:16 PM
A sport doesn't need people booing or jeering to be "exciting" (which is a poor excuse to justify bad behaviour).

Agreed. I'm all for being as loud as one can possibly be...cheering your heart out and creating a great atmosphere...but lines should still be drawn...respect and consideration for the players on court and the most basic rules should be of importance.

Awww Kim was teary when she won? :hug:

moon
Jan 13th, 2007, 05:37 PM
nothing more irritating than fools yelling "out" during a point. :rolleyes: it happened several times. Kim had the patience of a saint out there.

it was a great match, and I'm glad she won.
now win the AO!

piercerocks
Jan 13th, 2007, 06:13 PM
i like them both

but sometimes, crowds just need to shut up and let the people play.

even at the US Open if someone yells something during a point people should tell them to shut up.

terjw
Jan 13th, 2007, 10:12 PM
Even when Kim was serving?

Even when Kim won amazing points?

Even when Kim made her acceptance speech?

IMO, the only time in that match the booing was "understandable" was when those suspect line calls were made.

Well said.

At the Fed Cup final between Belgium and Italy it was different to this. It was noisy and there was an incident where a serve was so far out and was not called or overuled - it was unbelievable. It was a critical point and the Belgium fans booed at the injustice. Kim herself booed at the injustice of it all. It was not directed at the players. It was not personal at the officials. It was just such a terrible decision and injustice being booed. Play was held up until the noise subsided and that was that. But the atmosphere towards the teams, players and fans everyone was noisy but friendly.

Having said that - well done Kimmie and JJ. And the genuine affection and respect between Kim and JJ was for all to see at the end with the laughter and embrace at the net after Kim won.

vutt
Jan 13th, 2007, 10:48 PM
You're like the Energizer Bunny! You keep going on and on and on................................................ .................................................. ................................................an d on! Give it a rest!

LOL Indeed, but I guess every board must have someone like Tenis Srbija. You know in order to keep board alive...

henmanhill
Jan 13th, 2007, 11:03 PM
I'm speechless. I'm guessing you lot are complete saints as you're so able to cast your stones!

Get a grip.
The fact that none of us is perfect doesn't give eveyone the right to behave however they want. By your logic, any behaviour would be acceptible.

Corswandt
Jan 13th, 2007, 11:24 PM
That's no comparison at all. You weren't there, were you. That's probably why things got explained. The Belgians were just excited about the match and supporting their player. Furthermore, I was sitting nearby a kid with his parents, when the opponent hit a double fault. The kid reacted: yeah! (not even that hard). He was immediately corrected by his parents (I know a certain country where it's the opposite: they would think the kids reaction to be funny).
Today was totally different, really disrespectful. They were purposefully disrupting the game, and disrupting the opponent.

And booing when Santangelo had already began her serve motion wasn't meant to disturb her?

In summary, there is no need to involve the Belgian crowd. I guess you were annoyed then, because your fav lost

My fav WON, and took the cup home.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/LordFlasheart/fullteam.jpg

Anyway, don't attack someone else when you're trying to defend yourself.

Defending myself? Of what? Of your selective memory?

At the Fed Cup final between Belgium and Italy it was different to this.

Too right, it was much worse.

It was noisy and there was an incident where a serve was so far out and was not called or overuled - it was unbelievable. It was a critical point and the Belgium fans booed at the injustice. Kim herself booed at the injustice of it all. It was not directed at the players. It was not personal at the officials. It was just such a terrible decision and injustice being booed. Play was held up until the noise subsided and that was that.

Injustice being booed? Santangelo was ready to serve, began her service motion several times, and several times she had to interrupt it because the crowd just wouldn't shut up. The pretext for the crowd's behaviour is immaterial when the net result is one (or both - it can't have done Flipper any good either) of the players being prevented from focusing on what she's doing, or even playing at all.

Or are you going to say that Santangelo wasn't at least distracted by the crowd going crazy?

mboyle
Jan 13th, 2007, 11:33 PM
There was a sense of "the madame" about the 21-year-old, and it seems only a matter of time before she accumulates a string of trophies and becomes one of the most controversial figures in the game.

BEST QUOTATION EVER!