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Uranus
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:29 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Is Serena truly ready for a return? Even though Sybille is impressive this week, I think Serena should have won this.

skumars
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:29 AM
Good luck for the AO to Serena!

MrSerenaWilliams
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:29 AM
GREAT win

:sad: Serena

rest up for AO ree

skumars
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:30 AM
Congrats Sybille. Well done.

Alvarillo
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:30 AM
Bam Bam Bammmmmerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :bounce:

Tennisfan-Mtl
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:30 AM
Sybille :woohoo:

She was down 3-6, 1-3.....:worship:

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:30 AM
:tape: :help: OMG

Alvarillo
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:31 AM
Bam Bam :worship:

Stamp Paid
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:31 AM
It is not an upset. Serena is #95, Bammer is #56.

Hayato
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:31 AM
So happy for Sybille!!! Great win for a mum :yeah: :D

skumars
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:31 AM
That was a bad match by Serena. She needs to work a lot more on the next few days.

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:31 AM
:sad:

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:31 AM
cant believe serena lost to her

WhatTheDeuce
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:31 AM
Rena :sobbing: Too bad. Let's hope she finds a spark in Melbourne cause based on this week's form it's hard to see her going really deep.

Congrats to Bammer.

lindsayno1
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:32 AM
meh! Serena!

Lulu.
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:32 AM
I cannot believe this....Serena you need to get it together and quick girl :o

LUXXXAS
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:32 AM
Serena :tape:
dying... :bolt:

skumars
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:32 AM
It is not an upset. Serena is #95, Bammer is #56.

Do you really believe so? ;) I know its hard to defeats sportingly. But Serena is way better, in general.

SvetaPleaseWin.
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:33 AM
at least serena got some sort of preparation for the aussie-hopefully she'll get a decent draw

AJZ.
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:33 AM
Bammer!! :D

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:33 AM
this is pitiful for serena :help:

LUXXXAS
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:33 AM
:help:

TS
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:33 AM
Shit :o

Uranus
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:33 AM
Lol

Pszczelny
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:34 AM
congrats Sybille :D

Ben.
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:34 AM
it's obvious that serena could of won this match but it didn't happen. wonder how many unforced errors she made in the match cause i think she would of made tons of them. ah well it's her 1st event back so at least she's got 3 matches udner her belt going into the AO :)

congrats to bammer though :clap2:

henree
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:34 AM
Serena was down 0-40 so much. Her serve has went to hell. But she did win alot of the long points. I think the new smaller racket makes Serena more consistent during the rallies. But she is severly mis-timing her serves at the same time.

Lulu.
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:34 AM
this is pitiful for serena :help:


OKAY. Shut up now do you have to post something in ever thread damn :rolleyes:

blumaroo
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:34 AM
Bammer is not that bad and can frustrate players with her awkward lefty play. Still, a three set loss is not tolerable. I guess Bammer wore her down in the fitness department.

Mightymirza
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:34 AM
No way!! Iwantedto see sania serena final :bigcry:

Sharapova's_Boy
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:35 AM
:speakles:

I thought this was going to be Serena's easiest match. :o

Jaffas85
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:35 AM
Serena Williams should count herself fortunate if she can defend her 3rd round points at the Australian Open as she seems to be playing even worse than she was at the recent U.S. Open.

For someone who used to be so dominant and #1 to lose to a throw away player like Bammer shows that Serena will never return to her best form because she isn't motivated enough to get her body in its best shape nor have her game at her highest level; the Serena Williams of 01,02 and 03 is dead.

Martina Hingis only trounced Bammer less than 2 weeks ago 60 61 and thus its really disgusting that a player of Serena's stature could have so much trouble and ultimately lose to such a miscellaneous player.

If the Williams Sisters retire in 07' it will be no great loss as they realistically already "checked out" of the game years ago.

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:35 AM
:sad:

prock
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:35 AM
Serena was down 0-40 so much. Her serve has went to hell. But she did win alot of the long points. I think the new smaller racket makes Serena more consistent during the rallies. But she is severly mis-timing her serves at the same time.

Why did she change for a smaller racquet in the first place? :confused:

Geertvg
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:35 AM
:lol:

I guess that playing Hobart was a very smart decision to get some match rhythm and do sth about that bad shape. Now get to the gym and work out Serena, or the Australian Open might end very soon...

tennisbear7
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:37 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Well done Sybille!

Though Ree lost... well... well done for actually playing some tennis. You'll do great at the Aus Open.

skumars
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:38 AM
Some Match Stats:

Aces:
Serena 4
Bammer 0

1st serve %:
Serena 63%
Bammer 63%

1st Serve Pts won:
Serena 52%
Bammer 59%

2nd Serve Pts Won:
Serena 41%
Bammer 38%

Break Points Saved:
Serena 7/15 (47%)
Bammer 7/14 (50%)

Total Points Won:
Serena 99
Bammer 107

1st serve winning % is real bad and needs improvement.

henree
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:39 AM
Why did she change for a smaller racquet in the first place? :confused:
I am guessing for more control.

PLP
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:40 AM
Serena, not a player you should lose to :help: ...still, I am glad you had some good time on the court before Melbourne, I am sure you know what to do! :yeah:

Sybille, Congrats on a HUGE WIN! You must have really picked up your play since Martina thrashed you last week at GC! :eek:
Good luck in the semis!

blumaroo
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:40 AM
Hopefully for her she doesn't run into a player in decent shape in the first round or she's pretty much gone. She never lost in the first round of a slam before. But if she's struggling with players outside the top 20 or even top 30..

papru
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:42 AM
:eek:

skumars
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:43 AM
Definitely a RED LETTER DAY for Bammer. She should not forget to mark it on her calendar :) Very well played!

Fidello
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:43 AM
Well done, Sybille

V.Melb
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Nice win for Bammer, who is physically in 60 times better shape then Serena.

prock
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:44 AM
I am guessing for more control.

Gee, she must be feeling really unsure of her game these days...
Bad loss for Serena. Maybe she should change back to a larger sweet spot?
Anyway, fantastic achievement for Bammer. Congrats!

ioni
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:46 AM
:eek: :bolt:

skumars
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:46 AM
With Venus out, Serena is the only Williams playing. Hope she gets into the grove before AO.

fOxYLiCiOuS
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:47 AM
Well done Bammer.

Josh.
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:48 AM
wow..

ViennaCalling
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:49 AM
:eek: Congrats Bam Bam :kiss: :bowdown:

<Sven>
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:50 AM
Serena :hug:
I don't think it's such a terrible loss... she'll need a bit more time to get in good shape
but beware when she accomplishes that...

dorotek23
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:50 AM
Sybille :woohoo:

Great job.
Agree with conclusion that Serena lose because of fitness. And probably lack of matches. She played last match at US OPEN since I remember

Ben.
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:53 AM
yeah, you gotta give bammer credit where credit is due. well done sybille :yeah:

guess we can't expect a lot out of serena at this rate but at least she's got some match play under her belt.

perseus2006
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:53 AM
Serena went to Hobart to get some match practice. She got close to 5 hours worth in less than about 30 hours plus the first match.

She'll think it through, make some adjustments and be good to go for the AO.

There's no reason to dump on a player in her first tournament since the USO.

athake
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:54 AM
wake up from a dream again...

"Serena will dominate 2007", "2 or more GS again in 2007", etc were very funny. Get the reality that both are finished and find new hobbies...

skumars
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:55 AM
She needs to slim down a bit. She doesn't look like tennis player now.

-VSR-
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:58 AM
:rolleyes:

She should have had this in the second set when she was up 3-1.

Xian
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:59 AM
:ras: :ras: to all those who said Sybille doesnt belong to the top 50 :devil: :devil: .
Of course Serena wasnt 100% fit though Sybille was the better player today. Give her some credit:worship:

!<blocparty>!
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:02 AM
Wow... just... :lol:/:unsure:/:shrug:/:weirdo:

Josh.
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:06 AM
just a kick note.. serena not fond of playing leftys?? i mean 1st lucie and now bammer

skumars
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:08 AM
just a kick note.. serena not fond of playing leftys?? i mean 1st lucie and now bammer

Thats actually true for a lot of righty players. It takes lots of practice to get this lefty thingie into your subconscious mind.

JonBcn
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:12 AM
Left handed people should have their own tour.

goldenlox
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:16 AM
This tournament is far below Sydney in quality.
I think Serena is far away from her Cincy form of 2006.

Brαm
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:22 AM
That's a pretty bad loss especially considering that Serena said this some days ago:

Seven-time Grand Slam winner Serena Williams says she has "no doubt" she will be world number one again after a string of knee and ankle injuries.
The American, who is preparing for the Australian Open, is confident she will reverse her injury-enforced slide to 95th in the world rankings.

"There's no doubt about it. It's just a matter of time. I'm definitely on my way," said the 25-year-old.

:o:o

Tennace
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:34 AM
Sybille! :banana: :worship: :yeah: :bounce:

A'DAM
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:34 AM
:haha: :lol: :haha:

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:35 AM
Well I think that she is serving horribly...

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:37 AM
How many people who are like, "give Cybille credit, she played better" actually saw the match? :weirdo:

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:39 AM
That's a pretty bad loss especially considering that Serena said this some days ago:



:o:o

ok :) :yeah:

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:40 AM
Anyways :tears: I'm not that sad because I know Serena tried her hardest and that is all that matters... maybe she just wasn't playing well. :)

faste5683
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:41 AM
can't wait for the interview....

:wavey:

Xian
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:41 AM
How many people who are like, "give Cybille credit, she played better" actually saw the match? :weirdo:


I saw it and she played better :devil: sorry for you to hear that

Il Primo!
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:45 AM
Her most disappointing loss since 04 China Open and Sun Tian Tian,to me.
It smells bad for Melbourne.

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:45 AM
I saw it and she played better :devil: sorry for you to hear that

Well it is hard for me to believe that you say it without any bias. :)

Slumpsova
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:48 AM
Serena you pathetic! :( :mad: :fiery: :banghead:

_Cell-chuk
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:58 AM
This is hardly an upset. Serena comes to these tournaments overweight and expects to beat players who have been playing tennis on a continuous basis. Anyone who can keep the ball in play at a decent length, today it was Bammer, will have a chance to beat Serena in this kind of physical status. Even at her prime it was not only her groundies that won her matches. It was her ability to cover the court so fast, her speed, her athleticism that won her the most difficult matches.

She is running out of steam at the end of her matches. I didn't see today's match but at the USOpen it was the same story against Mauresmo. If she was a bit fitter there is no way she would lose to Mauresmo.
She is one of my favourites. But I have to say it is impossible for her to win the Aussie Open right now with her current status.

Having said all these, if she wins the AO I am ready to eat all my words because she is Serena. And we all love her.:)

Geertvg
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:01 AM
Well it is hard for me to believe that you say it without any bias. :)

pot... kettle... kettle... pot... ;)

narrisch
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:05 AM
Sybille :bounce: :banana: :yeah:

Andy.
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:06 AM
Wow thats a big shock, Serena is not in great from but even a sub par Serena should have handles her easily. She has certainly droppoed off from the US Open which is sad.

charmedRic
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:08 AM
:(

Havok
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:09 AM
Ouch, that's insanely pathetic. PLease get better Serena.

Well done to Bammer though :).

iPatty
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:10 AM
:haha:

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:12 AM
yes, I laugh at patty schyder's results as well :lol: :haha:

new-york
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:12 AM
It is not an upset. Serena is #95, Bammer is #56.

please.

Serena. Train, fix your game & do well @ the AO.

Elenarulez
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:13 AM
any pictures?

iPatty
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:14 AM
yes, I laugh at patty schyder's results as well :lol: :haha:

uhhh. ok.

this isn't about patty. it's about serena.

just making sure you know.

Sharapova's_Boy
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:14 AM
WTF?!? People are still thinking Serena can win the AO? :unsure:

Linzi
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:17 AM
Who is Sybille Bammer, never even heard of her. Which shows where Serena's at I guess...

Shonami Slam
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:19 AM
it's just like her loss to craybas - playing consistant players who can keep the ball in play with enough on it for top100 level, is harder for serena than playing players who can bomb killer winning shots, but also error.
she has a better chance for the aussie open playing a complete line-up of top20 players, than should she have to win it over 7 consecutive players from the 80-90 rank of tour.

TomTennis
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:20 AM
The immaturity of some of wtaposters is unreal! :rolleyes: Patty3, you sound like a 3 year old as does a lot of you others.

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:20 AM
Watch Serena pull out of the AO now... And i might just have to puke now.. like i said before :rolls: Cuz its disgusting.. BAMMER :eek: :shrug: BAMMER!!!

Shonami Slam
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:21 AM
Who is Sybille Bammer, never even heard of her. Which shows where Serena's at I guess...

actually - that mostly shows you aren't into actual tennis, but rather into persona fanships.
she's very well known to anyone who had a look at the top100 rankings throughout the past few months, not mention years.

TomTennis
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:23 AM
Serena :sad:

its a shame but it really makes me pleased that she decided to play before the AO.

Just think, this would have been devasting had this been the AO. Its good that she got a few matches under her belt, including one where she had to fight without a lot of things going her way, so all in all wasnt a total bad week.

This loss (after leading 6-3 3-1 :tape: :sad: ) will no doubt make Serena annoyed with herself and dissapointed that she didnt close it out..

......but, as said before, Its better to have these losses at warm-ups than at the Slams!

Bounty Hunter
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:24 AM
:sad: Oh well.... better luck at the AO!!! :bounce:




Congrat Bammer!!! Good luck for the rest of the tourney!!

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:32 AM
It's just not getting any better...:sad:

Sinnet
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:36 AM
I'm telling ya... Serena's fitness is not there yet, and I'm quite baffled as to why she looks worse than she did at the US Open when she's had all this time to train. She might be ready for a return, but she's still not ready to put in the work that returing to full form takes.

Good win to Bammer, and luck to Serena at Melbourne, assuming she'll still play.

PatrickRyan
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:40 AM
i can't belive it!
She should have won easily, she was up two break points at 5-5 in the second.

Blackbeat
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:43 AM
since when is serena so a choker??

bandabou
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:44 AM
hmmm....still can't believe it. only two years ago serena was weeks away from beating no.4, no.2, no.1 back to back to back to win the Oz open.

Fastforward to now and she can't sybille bammer? Hmmm...

The Daviator
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:47 AM
:eek: Serena :(

Why did she change her racquet in the first place anyway? :shrug:

gocanadago
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:56 AM
Reena :sad: :sad:

Experimentee
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Serena :rolleyes:
Now get some more practice for Melbourne, and don't give away any leads next time!

Wannabeknowitall
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Yey!!! Bam Bam!!!
Wow Serena what the fuck!
She played two lefties in a row that's a toughie yall.
Serena has to recognize that weakness and practice with a lefty.

Jakub
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:02 PM
well done Bammer :D :)

Highlandman
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:07 PM
:eek: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Mother_Marjorie
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:09 PM
Congrats, Bam Bam.

Perhaps next time, Serena.

silverwhite
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:10 PM
What's really disappointing is the number of times she got broken. When her serve isn't working well, you know she isn't in good form... :sad:

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:13 PM
What's really disappointing is the number of times she got broken. When her serve isn't working well, you know she isn't in good form... :sad:

She was probably spinning it in.. She always seems to do that 4 some reason now :shrug: Like acting injured or something... I dont get it :rolleyes:

Adal
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:15 PM
Woah Serena. From 6-3 3-1 :tape: ... Okay, hope you'll do better in Melbourne.

basset
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:16 PM
very well done sybille! in the poll voted for sybille to win in 3 and she did:)
to me her win comes as no surprise. besides all other aspects sybille is one of the fittest players on the tour. serena by far not. i guess that was a huge factor... in an interview last year sybille said herself that she likes long matches and that it is an advantage for her to go over 3 sets against most players..
the change of racket seems to be working well for sybille...

Avid Merrion
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:17 PM
:sad: i'm sad Serena never made it any further in the tournament, but glad she got a few matches under her belt before the AO :)

ce
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:17 PM
serena please dont play anymore if you are to lose like this:sad:

silverwhite
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:25 PM
She was probably spinning it in.. She always seems to do that 4 some reason now :shrug: Like acting injured or something... I dont get it :rolleyes:

I think she went for it in the first set but made a lot of DFs so I'm guessing she lost confidence in her serve and wanted to play safe. :confused:

*Jool*
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:28 PM
:awww:
congrayts to Sybille , and better luck next time for Serena :)

rjd1111
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:28 PM
Serena is ranked # 94 and Bammer is # 56. No Upset.

TTomek
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:29 PM
:woohoo:

iMe
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:31 PM
:eek: Very shocking to say the least !!!

sorry Serena :( congrats to Sybille :wavey:

Viktymise
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:32 PM
:sad: all my faves are choking hard this week First Sprem, yesterday lena and now Serena :o

dizoo
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:32 PM
Serena :( :( :(

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Highlandman
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:43 PM
I'm still sad, but is there any interview from one of them? :sad:

Cat's Pajamas
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:44 PM
OMG :o


and please don't tell us that its not an upset :o :o Rankings are just numbers. We know who the 7-time grand slam champion was and the other women has done nothing but shoot an atrocious photo shooot :help:

Serena :tape: :hug:
Sybille :eek: :yeah:

RenaSlam.
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:45 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad:

2moretogo
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:46 PM
Yikes Serena!
Congrats Bammer!

Post match interviews?

xXSarajevoXx
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:48 PM
Sybille :worship: :bounce:

Vut
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:48 PM
:sad:

Good Luck in AO

Highlandman
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:49 PM
:ras: :ras: to all those who said Sybille doesnt belong to the top 50 :devil: :devil: .
Of course Serena wasnt 100% fit though Sybille was the better player today. Give her some credit:worship:

I'm still this opinion:p

Yep, Bammer played maybe a great match, but normally Serena should/would beat her clearly, like Venus in Paris.

selyoink
Jan 10th, 2007, 12:54 PM
I can't believe Serena loss this one.

vwfan
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:01 PM
sorry, Serena.:sad:

not a great showing, but specifically to this match: closing out matches is the last thing to return after a long layoff!

New
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:04 PM
Good loss for Serena...:)

Now she can really reflect and think about how is she going to go all the way in the Aus Open and win the title...

Bammer surprised me though..:worship:

cheo23
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:04 PM
OMG!!!!! :eek: SERENA should NOT be losing to Sybille!!!!!!!

SERENA, GET u're ASS IN BETTER SHAPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why are U struggling TO DEFEAT THESE WEAK PLAYERS???? :rolleyes: :weirdo: :smash:

I thought U WERE Goin to WIN this WEAK TOURNAMENT :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing:

GET IT TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

saniafan2005
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:05 PM
is it a upset?

Highlandman
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:06 PM
I found a bit from Bammer:

(Da bin ich ins Spiel gekommen und habe aktiver gespielt. Am Ende war ich körperlich fitter als sie),

"There I came back into the match (After making the game to 3-6,2-3) and played more active. At the end I was physical better than her (Serena)"

Also:

(Bammer selbst beklagte sich ein wenig über parteiische Entscheidungen. "Im ersten Satz hat es in den ersten fünf Games fünf strittige Entscheidungen gegeben, die waren immer gegen mich. Die Stars haben immer ein bisserl einen Vorteil, da ist es noch schwieriger, sie zu schlagen)

"In the first set there were in the first five games were five close decisions, but all of them were against me. The stars have always a bit an advantage, so it is much more difficult to beat them"


(www.sport1.at)

sunset
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:10 PM
Serena Williams beaten by an unseeded player! :bounce:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070110/capt.hob12101101217.australia_tennis_hobart_hob121 .jpg

:lol:

Serena got a good taste of what is in store for her in 2007.

Aaron.
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:16 PM
fuck ALL MY DAMN VCASH!! :weirdo: :smash:

treufreund
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:20 PM
I feel bad that Bammer felt she was being treated unfairly. :sad:

harloo
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:21 PM
I found a bit from Bammer:

(Da bin ich ins Spiel gekommen und habe aktiver gespielt. Am Ende war ich körperlich fitter als sie),

"There I came back into the match (After making the game to 3-6,2-3) and played more active. At the end I was physical better than her (Serena)"

Also:

(Bammer selbst beklagte sich ein wenig über parteiische Entscheidungen. "Im ersten Satz hat es in den ersten fünf Games fünf strittige Entscheidungen gegeben, die waren immer gegen mich. Die Stars haben immer ein bisserl einen Vorteil, da ist es noch schwieriger, sie zu schlagen)

"In the first set there were in the first five games were five close decisions, but all of them were against me. The stars have always a bit an advantage, so it is much more difficult to beat them"


(www.sport1.at) (http://www.sport1.at))


And that's what it boiled down too. Even Bammer knows Serena was struggling with fitness. All Serena needs to do is work on the aspect of her game and she will be fine.

Congrats Bammer, keep improving Rena!:)

Just Do It
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:25 PM
Serena :tears:

sweetpeas
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:25 PM
Gosh,Serena not GOD.She coming back,Thing"s take time.That why Serena out there.Some of you people are silly.Serena will need a year"s run.She know"s that!

KClijsters
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:27 PM
I'm really surprised .... I really thought that Serena would win this match.

But congrats Sybille ! :D

tennisboi
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:33 PM
Serena blew a set and a break lead:eek:she still doesn't seems fit enough and players need to be fit for the OZ Open cause the rallies tend to be longer there

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:36 PM
Pathetic, Serena... Just pathetic :o
I mean, even Myskina managed to beat Bammer month ago :help:

LoveFifteen
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:40 PM
I really want Hingis to draw Serena in the 1st or 2nd round of the AO. Get that head-to-head even, giiiiirl!

rrfnpump
Jan 10th, 2007, 01:56 PM
the funniest thing about this is that Williams fans say this is not an upset :lol: :rolls:

Serena :( :(
please play better at AO

Becool
Jan 10th, 2007, 02:07 PM
It's not an upset if you see the state Serena is today.. She's playing with no matches under her belt.. Only a few.. While Bammer has constantly playing on tour? Are y'all stupid to not recognize this??

You guys say Serena should have won this, cause she's a better player, and won a lot of stuff.. But she doesn't have rythym, and she's not at her best form. Give her time, and she'll show all of you what she capable of..

And she should NOT pull of out Aus Open.. SHE NEEDS TO PLAY MATCHES...

If a player have to pull out of a tournament everytime he or she loses to a player below their level, then there will be no tournament tomorrow

LefandePatty
Jan 10th, 2007, 02:12 PM
Serena :awww:

You should have won this match! :(

Well done Sybille, nice win! :yeah:

Craigy
Jan 10th, 2007, 02:37 PM
Serena *sigh* :rolleyes:

Diesel
Jan 10th, 2007, 02:38 PM
And that's what it boiled down too. Even Bammer knows Serena was struggling with fitness. All Serena needs to do is work on the aspect of her game and she will be fine.

Congrats Bammer, keep improving Rena!:)

:yeah:

ChampLindsay
Jan 10th, 2007, 02:38 PM
why.... serena:sad: :sad: :sad: :fiery: ... oh no... bad lost....

but AO will be better;) :p

Craigy
Jan 10th, 2007, 02:39 PM
:haha: :haha:

"I'm soon gonna be No 1 again" - said Serena :lol: Yeah for sure :p

Please just do us all a favour and shut the fuck up you retarded troll :(
Serena lost, I'm angry enough but you just have to make it worse. You are the most annoying poster I've ever known on this board. Your just...bleh :o

MrSerenaWilliams
Jan 10th, 2007, 02:41 PM
not surprised, but sad...although if she keeps playing, she won't have many more losses like these...or losses period :yeah:

plantman
Jan 10th, 2007, 03:06 PM
UPSET!!!!! Not hardly..........Way to go Sybille:bounce: :bounce: In the second set you decided to BAMMMMMMMM and kick it up another notch!!!

ZListCelebrity
Jan 10th, 2007, 03:21 PM
BAM BAMMMM!!!!

Serena is FINISHED tennis player.

Natalicious
Jan 10th, 2007, 03:22 PM
omg bam bam :eek: :worship:
i think that's the highlight of your carrere so far :yeah:

c'mon and get this title :devil:

Kunal
Jan 10th, 2007, 03:25 PM
i hate this.

serena shld dust these players off jus like that.

i want the real serena back and i want it soon

disco_rage
Jan 10th, 2007, 03:35 PM
I think we need some perspective here.. Serena is not yet in shape! She needs matches and improved fitness.. But for people to say she's finished is just stupid at this point.

I figuered Bammer would cause her problem due to fitness. Bammer is a tricky player really and i imagined she would cause Serena problems.

Now im not Serenas biggest fan... BUT i'm happy to see her back and playing. And the fact she's played Hobart shows me she wants a comeback! So lets give her some time!

MatchpointPRT
Jan 10th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Bammer? What a shame for Serena... lol. Bammer was the player that Martina beat 6-0/6-2 in the past week, right? Hmm! i won´t do bad comments about Serena like some Serena´s fans do when Martina lose, but to be honest i was expecting Serena to win this match and also the tournament. The draw was easy... Anyway. Hope she plays better in the Australian open and loses in the final to Martina. :)

:inlove:
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:00 PM
:lol:
Well done Sybille. :) :clap2:
Good luck for the AO Serena. ;) If you play like you did today, you'll need it.

serenafan08
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:01 PM
Well, hopefully Serena can rebound in Melbourne and put up a good showing there. This should give her some confidence because she's had some matches under her belt. She'll be alright. I wonder how her knee feels - that's going to be the biggest question mark going into the Aussie Open. But congrats anyway to Sybille. :yeah:

Shimizu Amon
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:02 PM
Too bad. But it's her 1st tournament, I wasn't expecting a miracle. Well hope she does well at the AO, at least get some game practice there. Come on Serena show everyone that you've still got game!

No.1Hingis
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:08 PM
Bam Bam ... Bang!!!

Congrats to Sybille .. is all I can say.. Serena, well... ... Bang!

Dexter
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:12 PM
Congrats Sybille :hug:

But with all due of respect it's a bad loss for a player like Serena USED TO BE.

Xian
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:12 PM
I'm still this opinion:p

Yep, Bammer played maybe a great match, but normally Serena should/would beat her clearly, like Venus in Paris.


well fact is she lost and some of the so "promising" youngsters like Safarova were not able to beat her. Everyone who is in the top 50 actually deserves it. If you still hold the opinion she shouldnt be there then I think your tennis knowledge isnt that big. ;) (and 46 36 vs Venus isnt that bad either and anything but clearly)

Ferosh
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:20 PM
WTF?!? People are still thinking Serena can win the AO? :unsure:


I know...

Ferosh
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:21 PM
Who is Sybille Bammer, never even heard of her. Which shows where Serena's at I guess...

Actually, it shows your limited knowledge of tennis. :weirdo:

darrinbaker00
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:22 PM
not surprised, but sad...although if she keeps playing, she won't have many more losses like these...or losses period :yeah:
First of all, congratulations to Sybille Bammer, and I don't consider this an "upset" at all (Jan. 10, 2005, yes, but not today). Secondly, even Serena admits she has a lot of work to do, and playing matches three days in a row defeats that purpose. She'll have a day off between matches in Melbourne, and if she's serious about getting back to the top, she'll use those days to work on her conditioning and get used to her new stick. Gradual improvement should be Serena's objective at this point.

LH2HBH
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:22 PM
Very dissappointing but not at all surprising.

Helen Lawson
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Sybille is pretty bad, this is not good for Serena. OTOH, maybe this will be the kick in the ass Serena needs.

Ferosh
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:25 PM
Congrats, Sybille! :woohoo:

-GenEz.Williams
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:27 PM
actually its really not surprising for me but im still disappointed..but its okay she can now rest for couple of days and rock australian open..!!
I STILL BELIEVE IN YOU SERENA!!!

GQGuy1
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:28 PM
First of all, congratulations to Sybille Bammer, and I don't consider this an "upset" at all (Jan. 10, 2005, yes, but not today). Secondly, even Serena admits she has a lot of work to do, and playing matches three days in a row defeats that purpose. She'll have a day off between matches in Melbourne, and if she's serious about getting back to the top, she'll use those days to work on her conditioning and get used to her new stick. Gradual improvement should be Serena's objective at this point.



Boy aren’t you in denial just like Serena. This is obviously an upset when a girl like Sybille Bammer can beat Serena. I can’t say it enough Serena needs to get fit. She still has game but and her shots are still there just not her movement and conditioning.

Stamp Paid
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:32 PM
I think its kinda pathetic that Serena can't even get past the quarters of a Tier 4 because of fitness issues. I think fitness wise, she can only HOPE to become like Monica Seles in her later years. Either shes not disciplined enough anymore, or her body is working against her. I hope she gets somebody easy in the AO 1R so that her streak wont be broken.

tennisfan5
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:32 PM
On Safarova: "I spoke to Venus before the match – she's played her before and she said that she was a tough opponent," Williams said.

"So I knew from the start she was probably going to play better than she's played in her whole life.

On Bammer: "I've never seen her play like this before in my life. I guess she was just up to play me," Williams said of the world number 56.

:rolleyes: enough already Serena--it's possible they were just playing the way they usually do and you are just not in shape/form right now so you lost. Not every player plays the "match of their life" against you

Kim's_fan_4ever
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:36 PM
'Serena is going to win Australian Open' :tape:

MikeJones
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:43 PM
HIP HIP HOORAAAY!!! My worst nightmare is to have rena come back after all the BS shes pulled and win. Good 4 Sybille

"Serena would rather be in the slammer, than play Bammer!" :lol:

Tenis Srbija
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:46 PM
'Serena is going to win Australian Open' :tape:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Williams-forever
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:47 PM
Stop Choking Serena...You had your chances in this match :help: Still looking forward to watching you on tv at AO though:)

DevilishAttitude
Jan 10th, 2007, 04:54 PM
It's very clear that Serena was only playing to 0 out of 10 of her abilities.

:haha:

I thought Serena was in great shape? :haha: It's amazing how 1 result changes things.

I said Williams fans were slowly moving with the times. This thread proves there not.

Serena is a fat joke and a embarrasement to the WTA Tour.

Well done Sybille! Power isn't everything ;)

SoClose
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:03 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad:

raquel
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:03 PM
Serena has a lot of work to do, but it's not the disaster some people are making out. This is only her 6th event in 18 months. She's rusty and not at her best shape. She has to start the comeback somewhere. She'll get better as long as she stays fit.

Mina Vagante
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:09 PM
lol serena is not a fat joke and an embarrasment to the tour, she dominated the tour for a year, like to see any other active player do it! ok so she's not in her best form and fitness levels-i'll admit it, but is not way embarrasing to the tour! she needs more matches and her fitness will gradually come back!

IceSkaTennisFan
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:13 PM
This is upsetting, but it wasn't an upset. Serena could use a good beating to help fire her up right before the AO. People were talking about her being tired, well, she has time to put her feet up and rest for a little :lol: She'll need the time to get to the AO and get situated and prepared.

Denise4925
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:21 PM
This is hardly an upset. Serena comes to these tournaments overweight and expects to beat players who have been playing tennis on a continuous basis. Anyone who can keep the ball in play at a decent length, today it was Bammer, will have a chance to beat Serena in this kind of physical status. Even at her prime it was not only her groundies that won her matches. It was her ability to cover the court so fast, her speed, her athleticism that won her the most difficult matches.

She is running out of steam at the end of her matches. I didn't see today's match but at the USOpen it was the same story against Mauresmo. If she was a bit fitter there is no way she would lose to Mauresmo.
She is one of my favourites. But I have to say it is impossible for her to win the Aussie Open right now with her current status.

Having said all these, if she wins the AO I am ready to eat all my words because she is Serena. And we all love her.:)
I agree with this assessment. Serena needs to get fitter, plain and simple. It doesn't sound or look like she kept up any fitness training after the US Open, where she looked like she was on her way to better fitness. Of course her serve needs working on, but I think there are three distinct factors working against her going into the AO, her fitness, her serve and adjusting her game to left handed players. Even when she was at the top of her game in '03 Emily Loit, a crafty left hander gave her trouble at the AO.

Credit to Bammer and congrats on her win. However, I'm just happy Serena is back on court, getting some match play and hopefully she'll make it to the second week of the AO. If not, get some match play and go into Miami looking and playing better.

-sugi-
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:22 PM
Sybille :bigclap: Great win for her :)

K-Dog
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:46 PM
Here's the thing. Serena is not in shape. We know that and Serena knows that. This was also Serena's first tournament with a new racquet that is completely opposite of any of the racquets Serena has used since about mid 1999 if you ask me. This was also her first tournament since the USO. She got some match wins and lost in a long 3 set match to a top 50 player where she was up 6-3 3-1. I'd say that this tournament has done nothing but good for Serena and that she'll be fine once she gets to Melbourne. This might even be better for Serena because then she'll be more rested going into Oz and she'll be able to practice on the courts there more than just one or two times before her first match. I expected Serena to be sore and sluggish for this match. After a long battle in the last match, she was bound to be sore and a lot was taken out of her. Serena will get in shape. It will just take a few tournaments to do so.

Marcell
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:47 PM
If someone who manages to break attendance record at Hobart selling out all three of her matches is an embarrassment to the WTA then the WTA is in big trouble. It's obvious that not everyone share your opinion.

morningglory
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:50 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Slumpsova
Jan 10th, 2007, 05:57 PM
It's very clear that Serena was only playing to 0 out of 10 of her abilities.

:haha:

I thought Serena was in great shape? :haha: It's amazing how 1 result changes things.

I said Williams fans were slowly moving with the times. This thread proves there not.

Serena is a fat joke and a embarrasement to the WTA Tour.

Well done Sybille! Power isn't everything ;)
oh look who's here? :rolleyes:

jazar
Jan 10th, 2007, 06:05 PM
i'm totally shcocked about that. i thought this would have been serena's easiest match yet. oh well, she lost, big deal.

vejh
Jan 10th, 2007, 06:07 PM
I liked how Serena helped with sold-out tickets for Hobart. It's comforting to know that irregardless of the support she gets from the WTA in terms of hype, even back in the day, people still remember impressive quality.

It's good that Serena's on the court again, but I hope she never really expected to come out and beat these match-tough players in her condition at this moment.

I too thought she'd be in better shape after the USo last year, but instead, baby girl got worse. I know Oracene must have been giving her an earful.

The Dawntreader
Jan 10th, 2007, 06:11 PM
Serena should be beating players like Bammer in her sleep. No offence to bammer, but Serena is a class above really, but then we get this loss:rolleyes: :sad:

I'm taking into consideration Serena's rustiness and she hasnt played since the Open, but i just go a bit silly with this kind of loss:sad: :lol:

I hope Serena gets it together come the Aussie, we need her to reclaim her glory!

Serena for Oz!!!!:D :bounce:

Mina Vagante
Jan 10th, 2007, 06:14 PM
lol i'll agree with that

RJWCapriati
Jan 10th, 2007, 06:21 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

There goes all my vcash.

winone23
Jan 10th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Great fight Serena, you will get better with each match!!!

volta
Jan 10th, 2007, 06:46 PM
oh well its not the end of the world. i think that if she has to lose i rather see her lose against this type players i think that that might open her eyes alot more then to lose against a top ten player.

anyway Rena get ready for the AO :hug:

Davenselesport
Jan 10th, 2007, 07:03 PM
It is not an upset. Serena is #95, Bammer is #56.

Are you saying Serena wasn't favored to win, and should be losing to players like this?

*Jean*
Jan 10th, 2007, 07:04 PM
Serena :lol: Well done Bammer! She is with Babolat now...One more...

Ellery
Jan 10th, 2007, 07:05 PM
Well done Sybille :worship:

pav
Jan 10th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Haven't read the thread,this has probably already been said,got to go, but seems to me watching Serena's last two on the scoreboard that she starts off good and as the match goes on loses momentum, which points to match conditioning,so nothing getting thru a few early rounds wont cure:)

soccerjock
Jan 10th, 2007, 07:44 PM
Good stuff from Bammer. Serena will be back once the fitness level is up!

darrinbaker00
Jan 10th, 2007, 07:48 PM
Are you saying Serena wasn't favored to win, and should be losing to players like this?
No, he's saying that from a ranking standpoint, and given the current state of Serena's game, this wasn't an upset.

hablo
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:00 PM
Well, at least the scoreline is more competitive than the one with Momo vs Jankovic :tape:;)

Serena probably needs more match practice and to strive to regain her form/fitness of 2002. ALLEZ c'mon!

Stamp Paid
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:05 PM
Are you saying Serena wasn't favored to win, and should be losing to players like this?

Have you seen Serena play in the last 2 years?
You tell me.
Out of all her losses, the only quality players shes lost to have been Venus and Mauresmo.

eugreene2
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:07 PM
This is good - because if Serena wants to really be #1 again, this lets her know there is plenty more work to do. As a fan, I'm kinda glad she lost in a Tier IV

hingisGOAT
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:09 PM
http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/pwned-48495.jpg

MrSerenaWilliams
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:09 PM
This should be her wake-up call. I hope it gets her :fiery:-ed up, so she can whip herself into shape and be all that she can be.

GQGuy1
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:13 PM
This should be her wake-up call. I hope it gets her :fiery:-ed up, so she can whip herself into shape and be all that she can be.

Something tells me this won't be a wake-up call she got that last year. As I said before Serena needs to take 3 months off and get into better shape or girls like Bammer are going to be whipping her on the regular.:(

MrSerenaWilliams
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:15 PM
http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/pwned-48495.jpg

This goes in the HINGIS forum :o :wavey:

eugreene2
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:17 PM
GQ - I saw your other post but you're not right. Simply put, Serena needs an injury free year. This way, she can do both - playing tournaments AND training. There's no question, she needs match play. So what if she loses a few matches against so-called lesser players while whipping her butt & game back into shape. With the right trainer, she can stay injury-free doing both. 'Nuff Said!

Europe rocks
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:23 PM
Great work Sybille :yeah: Really deserved this win and shows to Serena that the women's game is moving on

Stamp Paid
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:25 PM
Something tells me this won't be a wake-up call she got that last year. As I said before Serena needs to take 3 months off and get into better shape or girls like Bammer are going to be whipping her on the regular.:(

She dont need no more time off, she should have built on her US Open momentum and played last year's indoor season but chose not to. Unlike Venus, she is not and was not injured. Plus, she has done very little for her fitness from September to now. Serena needs to play as much as she can, maybe that will help her get fit.

Veritas
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:43 PM
LOL at the comments here. I can't believe Serena's being made fun of - this is a woman who's been out of the game since the US Open. She's swallowed her pride and hauled ass to play at a tournament she'd normally play. That takes guts. And it's not as if she went down meekly to some sub-par player. She fought hard and the score was close, indicating she wanted to win.

I still think it's possible for Serena to win another Slam and get back to the top. If Martina can get to no.7 after being absent 3 years, it should be easier for Serena. It's hard work not because of the physical demands but more because being out for so long makes people complacent and I'm sure Serena - with the money she's got - enjoyed her time off a little too much.

My advice is not to play at the Australian Open. It's likely now she won't go far and therefore won't get much match practice anyway. She should fly back home, pound in a lot of fitness training and practice her shots. It's clear Serena didn't do enough training for this event (probably because she didn't take a Tier IV seriously), otherwise she would've won it.

dreamgoddess099
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:43 PM
Serena, not a player you should lose to :help:

Sybille, Congrats on a HUGE WIN!


For someone who used to be so dominant and #1 to lose to a throw away player like Bammer


Definitely a RED LETTER DAY for Bammer. She should not forget to mark it on her calendar


Bad loss for Serena. Anyway, fantastic achievement for Bammer. Congrats!

Watch Serena pull out of the AO now... And i might just have to puke now.. like i said before :rolls: Cuz its disgusting.. BAMMER :eek: :shrug: BAMMER!!!

Serena you pathetic! :( :mad: :fiery: :banghead:

Wow thats a big shock, Serena is not in great from but even a sub par Serena should have handles her easily.

Ouch, that's insanely pathetic. PLease get better Serena. Well done to Bammer though :).

I just want all of you above to remember these statements the next time you think Serena is arrogant for saying she played a 1 out 10. Why does Serena catch so much heat on this board when she says her play was pathetic and that she should have won easily, when it's obvious so many of you feel the same way? You can say it but she can't? Serena's feelings about her bad play are just a mirror of what the fans say when she loses. When she says she played bad she's just telling the truth.

wake up from a dream again...

"Serena will dominate 2007", "2 or more GS again in 2007", etc were very funny. Get the reality that both are finished and find new hobbies...
Wow, one loss from a very rusty Serena at the beginning of the year and you think her year is over? I'm sure a couple of your favs have lost matches already this year too but I don't see you downing them. It's obvious that you think Serena is better than your favs, that's why you hold her to to higher standards than them. Just remember, the next time she herself says she's better too, don't jump down her throat for saying what you yourself just proved you also feel.

WTF?!? People are still thinking Serena can win the AO? :unsure:
Oh please, even if she had won you still would have been saying it's only a tier IV and that winning it doesn't mean she'll win AO. I'm sure you weren't thinking that Maria had no chance to win Wimbledon last year when she lost to Jamea Jackson at a tier III.


It's just not getting any better...:sad:
She's playing, isn't that better?

i can't belive it!
She should have won easily, she was up two break points at 5-5 in the second.

since when is serena so a choker??
Since she spent about 10 of 12 months off tour last year. Wow, the standards this woman is held too are incredible. These expectations of Serena just show what a great player she still is.


......but, as said before, Its better to have these losses at warm-ups than at the Slams!
Exactly, after Serena's close second round match she said "I'm glad I won, I wasn't ready to go home just yet. I'd like to have one more match." She didn't say I want to win the title because that wasn't the main goal of playing here. Serena achieved her goal, she got in a couple of match before the Aussie open. She knew that winning this title was no indication of how she would do at Aussie open.

BTW, Serena has never won a Tier III or IV all of her titles are Tier II and above. Maybe she wanted to keep her trophy case looking that way.

Veritas
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:45 PM
She dont need no more time off, she should have built on her US Open momentum and played last year's indoor season but chose not to. Unlike Venus, she is not and was not injured. Plus, she has done very little for her fitness from September to now. Serena needs to play as much as she can, maybe that will help her get fit.

Overplaying could burn her out. Serena never had a heavy schedule and starting to do that now could tire her even more and therefore dent her motivation to train.

MrSerenaWilliams
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:53 PM
Something tells me this won't be a wake-up call she got that last year. As I said before Serena needs to take 3 months off and get into better shape or girls like Bammer are going to be whipping her on the regular.:(

She needs to PLAY! Playing = getting in shape = in better form


and did everyone forget...she's playing w/ a NEW racquet that's MUCH stiffer than the racquets she's used for the past 2 YEARS, so that means she's had to re-do her WHOLE swing process. If she keeps playing and getting used to it, then she'll get better. I have no doubt that if she keeps playing, she'll be fine by the clay season, if not Dubai/Miami

HenryMag.
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:53 PM
well done sybille

great victory!

winone23
Jan 10th, 2007, 08:58 PM
HeylookImatroll can't get enough of Serena what a pathetic mule.

dreamgoddess099
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:09 PM
Great work Sybille :yeah: Really deserved this win and shows to Serena that the women's game is moving on

If that were true, Serena wouldn't have come close to winning this match. Serena's not winning was due to having the lack of mental toughness needed to close the match out. That's because of her lack of match play and fitness. This result shows that Serena can still compete even when she is no where near her best. The fact that Serena can be off tour for such huge lengths and not nearly at her best fitness, but still force fit match tough players who play day in and day out to beat her is a testament to her natural talent. I mean if Serena were really as bad off as some of you say, shouldn't she be getting whipped 2 and 2 in the first round of tournaments?:confused:

Geertvg
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:15 PM
If that were true, Serena wouldn't have come close to winning this match. Serena's not winning was due to having the lack of mental toughness needed to close the match out. That's because of her lack of match play and fitness. This result shows that Serena can still compete even when she is no where near her best. The fact that Serena can be off tour for such huge lengths and not nearly at her best fitness, but still force fit match tough players who play day in and day out to beat her is a testament to her natural talent. I mean if Serena were really as bad off as some of you say, shouldn't she be getting whipped 2 and 2 in the first round of tournaments?:confused:

It's amazing how certain people can turn everything into sth positive :) It's very loyal to keep being positive, but personally, if I were a fan, I would not be happy with the fact that she can still compete with top 50 even if she's out of shape and sloppy. I'd want my idol to be at the top of the game and I'd be dissapointed in the fact she let herself go like that, you shouldn't be happy with the potential she has and she's not taking fully... But as I said, it's very loyal, but I fear this attitude is not the right one for Serena :)

dreamgoddess099
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:16 PM
She needs to PLAY! Playing = getting in shape = in better form
If she keeps playing and getting used to it, then she'll get better. I have no doubt that if she keeps playing, she'll be fine by the clay season, if not Dubai/Miami

That's the whole point, haters don't want her to play herself into shape, that's why they try to harp on every loss no matter how high or low ranked the opponent. But Serena's humble enough to know she's going to have to accept some defeats to lesser players in order to get back to winning again. Win or lose, she needs to play. She's figured that out and that's why 2007 is going to be a good year for her.

crazillo
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:18 PM
I can't believe she has never heard of her...

dreamgoddess099
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:20 PM
It's amazing how certain people can turn everything into sth positive :) It's very loyal to keep being positive, but personally, if I were a fan, I would not be happy with the fact that she can still compete with top 50 even if she's out of shape and sloppy. I'd want my idol to be at the top of the game and I'd be dissapointed in the fact she let herself go like that, you shouldn't be happy with the potential she has and she's not taking fully... But as I said, it's very loyal, but I fear this attitude is not the right one for Serena :)

Looking at the list of players you support in your sig and shaking my head. Interesting that you have bigger expectations for Serena than your own favs.:scratch: Anyway, I didin't say I was happy or satisfied with her performance this week (and I'm sure Serena wasn't either), I'm just saying she's not as bad off as all you dramatic ****s are making her out to be.

southpaw58
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:21 PM
I just want all of you above to remember these statements the next time you think Serena is arrogant for saying she played a 1 out 10. Why does Serena catch so much heat on this board when she says her play was pathetic and that she should have won easily, when it's obvious so many of you feel the same way? You can say it but she can't? Serena's feelings about her bad play are just a mirror of what the fans say when she loses. When she says she played bad she's just telling the truth.


Wow, one loss from a very rusty Serena at the beginning of the year and you think her year is over? I'm sure a couple of your favs have lost matches already this year too but I don't see you downing them. It's obvious that you think Serena is better than your favs, that's why you hold her to to higher standards than them. Just remember, the next time she herself says she's better too, don't jump down her throat for saying what you yourself just proved you also feel.


Oh please, even if she had won you still would have been saying it's only a tier IV and that winning it doesn't mean she'll win AO. I'm sure you weren't thinking that Maria had no chance to win Wimbledon last year when she lost to Jamea Jackson at a tier III.



She's playing, isn't that better?




Since she spent about 10 of 12 months off tour last year. Wow, the standards this woman is held too are incredible. These expectations of Serena just show what a great player she still is.


Exactly, after Serena's close second round match she said "I'm glad I won, I wasn't ready to go home just yet. I'd like to have one more match." She didn't say I want to win the title because that wasn't the main goal of playing here. Serena achieved her goal, she got in a couple of match before the Aussie open. She knew that winning this title was no indication of how she would do at Aussie open.

BTW, Serena has never won a Tier III or IV all of her titles are Tier II and above. Maybe she wanted to keep her trophy case looking that way.

amen to all this!

Denise4925
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:21 PM
It's amazing how certain people can turn everything into sth positive :) It's very loyal to keep being positive, but personally, if I were a fan, I would not be happy with the fact that she can still compete with top 50 even if she's out of shape and sloppy. I'd want my idol to be at the top of the game and I'd be dissapointed in the fact she let herself go like that, you shouldn't be happy with the potential she has and she's not taking fully... But as I said, it's very loyal, but I fear this attitude is not the right one for Serena :)
We do want her to be, but we are realistic enough to know that it takes time. :shrug: We don't expect results overnight.

tennisfan5
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:28 PM
BTW, why was serena wearing long sleeves, isn't it quite hot in hobart?

Geertvg
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:33 PM
Looking at the list of players you support in your sig and shaking my head. Interesting that you have bigger expectations for Serena than your own favs.:scratch: Anyway, I didin't say I was happy or satisfied with her performance this week (and I'm sure Serena wasn't either), I'm just saying she's not as bad off as all you dramatic ****s are making her out to be.

What I expect from my faves has nothing to do with Serena, no? I mean, I don't get why you have to attack or say sth about MY faves when this is a thread about Serena Williams... It's really easy to just argue that way, but that doesn't show a great deal of debate skills I think :)

Anyways, I just regret seeing a champion like Serena in this situation, that's all... And hopefully she does get her act together, it would do the tennis in general good :)

supergrunt
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:35 PM
nike sucks.. stop pumping all this money in masha.. serena is more well known..

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jan 10th, 2007, 09:43 PM
nike sucks.. stop pumping all this money in masha.. serena is more well known..

Damn right :rocker: :bowdown:

ZListCelebrity
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:12 PM
It's quite sad that with her level of play, post-match excuses and her desire to be a z-list celeb and nothing else, Serena, once the top name in this sport, became the butt of jokes.

tonythetiger
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:15 PM
Serena is coming back. She took her to three sets in her first tournament in months. Good job Rena!

Dunlop1
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:39 PM
She needs to PLAY! Playing = getting in shape = in better form

This isn't exactly true. You need to already be in shape to play good tennis.
Playing while out of shape = getting injuries
which is the last thing Serena wants.

Serena just doesn't want it yet. When she's ready you will know. I predict a 2nd rd loss at the AO.

SpankMe
Jan 10th, 2007, 10:57 PM
Bam Bam Bammmmmerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :bounce:
Bam-bam!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :yeah:

winone23
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:13 PM
Bam-bam!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :yeah:

That's person's rump should not be your avvie!!!!

henmanhill
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:16 PM
It is not an upset. Serena is #95, Bammer is #56.
Wake up and smell the coffee hun! :)

rada
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:18 PM
This isn't exactly true. You need to already be in shape to play good tennis.
Playing while out of shape = getting injuries
which is the last thing Serena wants.

Serena just doesn't want it yet. When she's ready you will know. I predict a 2nd rd loss at the AO.

;) she really isn't ready to play............

spencercarlos
Jan 10th, 2007, 11:39 PM
No, he's saying that from a ranking standpoint, and given the current state of Serena's game, this wasn't an upset.
Oh that´s ridiculous, Serena just left off last year by reaching the 4th round of the Usopen bageling Mauresmo, beating Hantuchova and Ivanovic. She was actually playing good enough to be losing to Bammer, and yes it was a huge upset, as Serena despite the ranking, should have at least made it to the final in a field like this.

RenaSlam.
Jan 11th, 2007, 01:27 AM
237 posts and counting...one of the larger "results" scores we've had in a while...I wonder why?

MH0861
Jan 11th, 2007, 02:23 AM
237 posts and counting...one of the larger "results" scores we've had in a while...I wonder why?

Because the board only gets three times a year to hate on Serena.

mykarma
Jan 11th, 2007, 02:29 AM
It is not an upset. Serena is #95, Bammer is #56.
:worship::worship::worship:

~Eclipsed~
Jan 11th, 2007, 06:35 AM
I'm not that surprised...i didn't expect her to lose to Bammer, but i didn't think she would win the tourney either.

It will be interesting to see how far she goes next week. I doubt she'll get past the third round.

Xian
Jan 11th, 2007, 07:32 AM
Probable description of Bammer's match of her life:
Higher ball toss then ever and monball more then ever, run more than ever. Thats basically whole her game. And that was enough.

Bammer isnt moonballing :rolleyes:

dreamgoddess099
Jan 11th, 2007, 07:51 AM
What I expect from my faves has nothing to do with Serena, no? I mean, I don't get why you have to attack or say sth about MY faves when this is a thread about Serena Williams...
Being that you're not a fan, what Serena does or doesn't do should be of no concern to you. I don't see why you feel the need to say what her fans should want or how they should feel. What you expect from your favs, has nothing to do with what we should expect from Serena.
Anyways, I just regret seeing a champion like Serena in this situation, that's all... And hopefully she does get her act together, it would do the tennis in general good :)She will.

Sharapova's_Boy
Jan 11th, 2007, 09:26 AM
Because the board only gets three times a year to hate on Serena.

:haha:

Denise4925
Jan 11th, 2007, 03:34 PM
Because the board only gets three times a year to hate on Serena.

Well if that's your goal in life, enjoy and hate on. :yeah:

SAEKeithSerena
Jan 11th, 2007, 05:57 PM
Serena is obviously lacking the physical condition. it's been 4 months since the US Open, there is no reason for this. but best of luck to her next week, she's gonna need it...

starr
Jan 11th, 2007, 11:48 PM
BTW, why was serena wearing long sleeves, isn't it quite hot in hobart?

Hobart is in Tasmania which is south of the mainland- so chillier.

tobi
Jan 12th, 2007, 10:54 AM
Congrats Sybille :D