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Cajka
May 2nd, 2011, 10:17 PM
glavobolja od vina or whatever the song goes like :p

How did you... Of course, your non-Serb friend who adores Seka... And you didn't forget the words, Seka would be proud. :worship: You understand Serbian, don't you?

gaviotabr
May 2nd, 2011, 11:54 PM
Ana's website published a translation of the Marca article I posted in the previous page. Gotta love how Marca wisely cut the last sentence from it's print edition. Surprised Ana's web didn't cut it too, considering how bad this loss was. :tape:

Match preparation

Home › About Ana › Diary

I’m often asked by friends what the locker room at a tournament looks like. They really vary, to be honest: at a Grand Slam they are large and there are usually two of them, whereas at smaller tournaments they are far more compact, usually with just the bare necessities. At the larger ones there are sofas and I’ve even seen a hot tub.

I like to relax as much as I can before a match, so I try to find a peaceful space. I will often sit on one of the sofas and read a book while I’m waiting for my match to be called.

I love reading and I always have a book with me. I’m currently reading The Passage by Justin Cronin. I enjoy the vast majority of books I read: I can usually find something in them that I can relate to tennis. For example, Paulo Coelho’s Warrior of the Light taught me a little bit about mental preparation for matches.

If I’m not reading a book in the locker room I’ll be listening music. Along with a book and lip gloss, my iPod is something I will always have in my handbag. I listen to the same playlist for a while and I often have a song playing in my head during a tournament – including when I am on the court!

Right now I can’t get the songs S&M by Rihanna and Lady Gaga’s Born This Way out of my head! I’m sure they’ll be playing at the back of my mind during matches here this week.

During tournaments I’m obviously very dedicated and will do everything I can to ensure that I am in the best physical condition. Recovery is obviously an important part, and this often involves ice bathes!

Occasionally I will go to the cinema, but most often I watch movies on DVD. I think the last time I went to the cinema during a tournament was in Luxembourg last year. Actually, it was after my final match, because I missed my flight so I went to watch a movie – The Social Network, which I enjoyed.

Hopefully I won’t have any time to watch movies this week – that will mean I am winning matches!

The above column was published today in Marca newspaper in Spain

doni1212
May 3rd, 2011, 04:04 AM
As potential role model for many teenagers around world I always really like to see when Ana talking about her habit to read books, no matter what I personally thinking about her taste. Speaking about hers favorite stuffs which coming from Brazil, I will be much more happy to see instead Coelho's "romantic" fictions for example movie "City of God" in section favorite films, especially because Ivanovic is UNICEF Ambassador very involved in "School without Violence" program. But like I say already, I will not complain in this case at all, its still better to hear from her any title from "popular literature" (how she spend hers free time), than for example some Nintendo game :shrug:

BTW talking about Ana and literature - for a long time already Ana is for me some kind of Tennis/Female HAMLET :D

Coelho was behind City of God?!! We watched that movie and read Carolina Maria de Jesus's book about favela life in class. That movie is crazy good!!! :worship:

azdaja
May 3rd, 2011, 08:51 AM
How did you... Of course, your non-Serb friend who adores Seka... And you didn't forget the words, Seka would be proud. :worship: You understand Serbian, don't you?
yes, i do. i'm even getting better and better at speaking it. i'm not really that clueless about serbia. i used to be meh about most serbian things before i became ana fan, though, lol

i could tell you more seka stuff, but only if you start posting in the introduction and off-topic thread ;) coz this doesn't belong in this one :o

Cp6uja
May 3rd, 2011, 12:02 PM
Hopefully I won’t have any time to watch movies this week – that will mean I am winning matches!This is proof for me that Ana not expected as possible anything like this early lose in Madrid this week!

Ana have many early round upsets in hers career but many of them coming from matches when she actually don't care too much or don't feel her ready for good results anyway (for example I notice that people here noted 2008 lose vs Pironkova like one of Ana's worst upsets, but for me that was classic Ana's intentional tank-job). But I'm sure that this painful 1st round lose vs Mattek for Ana is one of most shocking and unexpecting for her personally, right together with some other similar R1 disasters vs underdogs when she coming at some big event with high expectations (loses vs Bondarenko at USO/09 or Makarova this season at AO, lose vs Sevastova at IW/10 or Shvedova in Miami/07).

I'm not surprised that even two days after lose we this time still not hear any Ana statement "be positive", "learn from lose" or any other comment. She is obviously too much shocked with this.

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2011, 12:06 PM
Coelho was behind City of God?!! We watched that movie and read Carolina Maria de Jesus's book about favela life in class. That movie is crazy good!!! :worship:

NOOO! :lol: Paulo Coelho has nothing to do with City of God. Cp6uja was just saying he would also prefer to see Ana mentioning City of God than Paulo Coelho when it comes to brazilian references.

And yeah.. it's a great movie.

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2011, 12:10 PM
This is proof for me that Ana not expected as possible anything like this early lose in Madrid this week!

Ana have many early round upsets in hers career but many of them coming from matches when she actually don't care too much or don't feel her ready for good results anyway (for example I notice that people here noted 2008 lose vs Pironkova like one of Ana's worst upsets, but for me that was classic Ana's intentional tank-job). But I'm sure that this painful 1st round lose vs Mattek for Ana is one of most shocking and unexpecting for her personally, right together with some other similar R1 disasters vs underdogs when she coming at some big event with high expectations (loses vs Bondarenko at USO/09 or Makarova this season at AO, lose vs Sevastova at IW/10 or Shvedova in Miami/07).

I'm not surprised that even two days after lose we this time still not hear any Ana statement "be positive", "learn from lose" or any other comment. She is obviously too much shocked with this.

I'm sure she didn't expect it. But it's her own fault.. she had the match under control and suddenly let it all go along with hr first serve. 30% in the last set! 30%! She couldn't even fight for it.

What she should do is not get shocked, but ask herself why she has been choking SO many matches lately. And try everything to get a solution.

JAS_
May 3rd, 2011, 05:42 PM
Ana is obviously a nerd who is learning about life from the books. That's not such a bad thing, I know a few individuals who turned out pretty great, the problem is that in her profession she needs street smarts more than book knowledge.
And also, the choice of books is important; rather, if not sure about choice, at least make it as versatile as possible.
However, in the absence of different means for mental preparations for matches, I would rather that she reads Sun Tzu's The Art of War, to put her in the proper mindset, than Coelho, who is an easy, pleasurable read with fantasized romantic massages. At least Sun Tzu's legendary work has been a subject of studies in military academies.

Cajka
May 3rd, 2011, 06:24 PM
I don't know. People say she tries too hard, people say she doesn't care, people say that she trains a lot, then people say she doesn't train enough. Now we analyze if it's good or not to read Coelho. Who knows, maybe she doesn't read at all. :lol: Guess we are desperate 'cause our fav is doing really bad and now we try to come up with some solution. :sad: I don't know what she does off-court, but she obviously doesn't do the right things.:D Or does, but not enough.
Reading good books can't help you play better tennis. Tipsarevic and Andreev read Russian classics and Roger doesn't read anything except some magazines about cars or whtvr, and he's the best ever while Tipsa and Igor are headcases. And if Ana really thinks that she'll learn something by reading best-seller, it's kinda sad. She's 23! Ok, she doesn't act like one anyway. :o So, here we are, in circle again. We come to same conclusion. Immature people act immature. She has to grow up somehow and get a grip finally. :mad:

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2011, 06:34 PM
I don't know. People say she tries too hard, people say she doesn't care, people say that she trains a lot, then people say she doesn't train enough. Now we analyze if it's good or not to read Coelho. Who knows, maybe she doesn't read at all. :lol: Guess we are desperate 'cause our fav is doing really bad and now we try to come up with some solution. :sad: I don't know what she does off-court, but she obviously doesn't do the right things.:D Or does, but not enough.
Reading good books can't help you play better tennis. Tipsarevic and Andreev read Russian classics and Roger doesn't read anything except some magazines about cars or whtvr, and he's the best ever while Tipsa and Igor are headcases. And if Ana really thinks that she'll learn something by reading best-seller, it's kinda sad. She's 23! Ok, she doesn't act like one anyway. :o So, here we are, in circle again. We come to same conclusion. Immature people act immature. She has to grow up somehow and get a grip finally. :mad:

Ana has to man up, as Serena would say. :lol:

Ana is not doing things right off court.. she might train 24/7.. if it's not the right way, it won't pay off. Her problems lie much more in her head then anywhere else anyway.

Cajka
May 3rd, 2011, 06:53 PM
I miss Serena. :sad:

doni1212
May 4th, 2011, 01:34 AM
Who you tellin'?!! After watching our current world number one moonball, hit loopy forehands and still win the match this morning I was seriously sick to my stomach.

Cajka
May 4th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Bojana is the one to blame.

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 11:24 AM
Argh.. why do Ana always makes me cringe in interviews nowadays!?! UGH! Feel like punching a wall sometimes..

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 11:38 AM
Google translation...

Ivanovic: "I have quality in order to become number one"
Serbian tennis player, eliminated in first round of Madrid, says it has regained the desire to compete
RODRIGO ROAD - Madrid - 05/05/2011

There is nothing in your face you can tell, but the Serbian tennis player Ana Ivanovic has not had luck in the tournament in Madrid. American Bethanie Mattek overcame it-Sands 0-6, 6-4, 6-4 in first round and ended his aspirations to make a good showing at the Masters. She, however, continually smiling, as if nothing had happened, and says he remains hopeful of returning to world number one, a position he attained in 2008, when he also won Roland Garros.

"My goal is to return to be number one because I think I have ability and quality to do it," said today in a press conference which has provided next to Manolo Santana, director of the Madrid tournament. Do not be such an easy task for Serbia, currently ranked No. 18 in the WTA rankings with almost 7000 points behind Caroline Wozniacki, who leads the standings. "I feel good, I'm young [aged 23] and I worked very hard to stay strong." He explained that he now feels the need to compete, to play more games I play lately. "That's what I've missed in this time," he said.

Following the disposal in Madrid, now has his mind set on other goals. "I will go to the tournament in Rome and then see what I do. May play a tournament before Roland Garros, Ivanovic has warned.


http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Ivanovic/Tengo/calidad/volver/ser/numero/elpepudep/20110505elpepudep_7/Tes

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Ivanovic sueño con volver: "Creo que tengo la calidad y potencial para estar arriba otra vez" La ex número uno del ranking femenino, the encuentra hoy en el número Casillero 17, aunque sabe que "jugando partidos más, podría volver al sitial en el que estuvo.

MADRID .- La Serbia Ana Ivanovic, otrora número uno del mundo y ahora en el situado puesto 17 del ranking femenino, the samples convencida de que volver a las Alturas del circuito porque tiene "calidad y potencial para ello y solo necesita" jugar partidos ".

"We meta es volver arriba. Trabajo duro para ello. Creo que tengo y calidad potencial para estar ahí otra vez. Solo me is faltando jugar partido, y llegar a tener continuidad a ganar un gran torneo, la tenista apuntó Balcanica, eliminado en la primera ronda del torneo de Madrid por la estadounidense Bethanie Mattek-Sands.

La tenista de Belgrado, de 24 años, cree que aún tiene "tiempo por Delante. "Soy joven y espero recuperar lo mejor de my tennis," Ivanovic indica que tras el torneo de la Madrid disputará Competición de Roma.

Antes de Roland Garros is Pendiente de decidir si otro torneo disputará of the centro en la preparación. En el transcurso de un acto Promocional, Ivanovic the samples were optimistic sobre futuro.

"Me encuentro bien, en un buen momento pero, definitivamente, necesito jugar partidos más para llegar a mi mejor nivel. Aunque creo que estoy cerca", dijo que la Serbia, eliminado de la precipitadamente Competición, ocupa el tiempo en Madrid y en prepararse realizar algunas con algunos medios colaboraciones de comunicación.

"Madrid es un torneo que me encanta. Me gusta escribir aunque a veces es complicado hacerlo sobre un partido. En cualquier caso, la semana de este torneo es siempre una buena semana, concluyó.

http://www.emol.com/noticias/deportes/detalle/detallenoticias.asp?idnoticia=479761&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

She needs matches... and a NEW brain. If she keeps losing in first rounds and choking matches left and right, she won't be playing more matches. She had an easy draw in Madrid.. a draw worthy of an international event.. and she choked. She has to get into her mind that she will only play more matches if she effing stops choking. And to stop choking she needs to work on her mental game.

Good place my #!@#@#"! She is having the worst first 5 months of the year of her career.

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 11:44 AM
I feel like I'm on a time loop and it's 2009 again. That's exactly the things she was saying back then. And we all know how that ended up.

UGH! Punch a wall punch a wall punch a wall.

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 12:32 PM
She is waiting for things to fall from the sky.

"I just need to play more matches..."

"I just need to win a big tournament..."

"I'm close to my best level..."

WTF!

She talks like the matches and the big tournament will fall from the sky directly at her lap. It will just happen by luck or something.

:banghead:

Cp6uja
May 5th, 2011, 01:24 PM
Ivanovic: "I have quality in order to become number one"
Serbian tennis player, eliminated in first round of Madrid, says it has regained the desire to compete
RODRIGO ROAD - Madrid - 05/05/2011

There is nothing in your face you can tell, but the Serbian tennis player Ana Ivanovic has not had luck in the tournament in Madrid. American Bethanie Mattek overcame it-Sands 0-6, 6-4, 6-4 in first round and ended his aspirations to make a good showing at the Masters. She, however, continually smiling, as if nothing had happened, and says he remains hopeful of returning to world number one, a position he attained in 2008, when he also won Roland Garros.

"My goal is to return to be number one because I think I have ability and quality to do it," said today in a press conference which has provided next to Manolo Santana, director of the Madrid tournament. Do not be such an easy task for Serbia, currently ranked No. 18 in the WTA rankings with almost 7000 points behind Caroline Wozniacki, who leads the standings. "I feel good, I'm young [aged 23] and I worked very hard to stay strong."
:banghead:Why You complain this time :confused::scratch:
WTA#1 :rocker2::bounce: is even better goal than comeback into WTA TOP10 :shrug::wavey: ;)


:secret: Trust me, it's very good sign that this time we must to wait FOUR DAYS for Ana's traditional "stay positive" message. I think this time she take things more seriously.

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 01:51 PM
Why You complain this time :confused::scratch:
WTA#1 :rocker2::bounce: is even better goal than comeback into WTA TOP10 :shrug::wavey: ;)


:secret: Trust me, it's very good sign that this time we must to wait FOUR DAYS for Ana's traditional "stay positive" message. I think this time she take things more seriously.

Ana has ALL the goals, but no plans to achieve it whatsoever. She is just waiting for things to suddenly happen for her. And guess what? They won't if she doesn't go get them. That's awful attitude, and that only shows how she refuses to see what her real shortcomings are.

If this is taking things seriously, God help us.. this is exactly how she went about in 2009. I was reding thread posts from 2009.. exactly the same kind of quotes. It's not good at all.. she is putting things out of her.. like they might happen at any time.. just happen. That is NOT how life works.

I posted this quote the other day: "It's important to have goals, but even more so to carefully plan each step to achieve them." So true.. There is no plan with Ana... just waiting and "I still have time.." :bs:

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 01:59 PM
And before anyone comes saying we shouldn't take what she says to heart.. take a look at what she was saying at the end of last year, or during 2007-08.. completely different attitude. What she says does give insight into how she is behaving and what she is doing. Her attitude now sucks.

Bad attitude and brain farts aplenty.. how awesome. Bye bye 2011.

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 02:05 PM
I guess the only thing we can do is to practice the rain dance.

http://www.philaprintshop.com/images/catldance.jpg

Ask the Gods for things to fall from the sky.. because that's what Ana is waiting to happen... just waiting..

Ana does too much talk and too little actually believing in it and fighting for it.

Cajka
May 5th, 2011, 03:15 PM
Now I'm even more disappointed. Instead of saying that she's mad after the loss, that she's devastated, she's saying that she's close to reaching number one spot, that she's young and that she can do it. She's been saying those craps for 3 years and there is no improvement. I'm sorry, but I'm beginning to wonder if she's deluded or just stupid. I'm sooooo angry!

JAS_
May 5th, 2011, 09:22 PM
Ana is deluding herself if she thinkgs she is young. She is in tennis prime! And if you compare her with Monica she is friggin' old.
She is only young because in this generation older gals are dominating, so it seems she is yound compared to Serena, Venus, Kim...
Also, she probably compares herself with JJ (and vice versa). Like I said in a thread in GM, their careers are intricately linked together, and I think they influenced each other much more than they would like to admit. This influence at times was beneficial, but I am not sure if the final balance is positive.
Funny thing, though, I had a dream a couple nights ago and in this dream Woz was just one of three sisters :hysteric:
Then I thought on waking up, OMG imagine if there were three of them and shared the secrets with each other about beating the other girls, like the Williamses surely do. Other girls wouldn't even come close to the titles.
Anyhow...the Serbian gals could have as well been Serbian sistas dominating the tour...But as they say -
coulda woulda shoulda...

Cajka
May 5th, 2011, 09:42 PM
Ana is deluding herself if she thinkgs she is young. She is in tennis prime! And if you compare her with Monica she is friggin' old.
She is only young because in this generation older gals are dominating, so it seems she is yound compared to Serena, Venus, Kim...
Also, she probably compares herself with JJ (and vice versa). Like I said in a thread in GM, their careers are intricately linked together, and I think they influenced each other much more than they would like to admit. This influence at times was beneficial, but I am not sure if the final balance is positive.
Funny thing, though, I had a dream a couple nights ago and in this dream Woz was just one of three sisters :hysteric:
Then I thought on waking up, OMG imagine if there were three of them and shared the secrets with each other about beating the other girls, like the Williamses surely do. Other girls wouldn't even come close to the titles.
Anyhow...the Serbian gals could have as well been Serbian sistas dominating the tour...But as they say -
coulda woulda shoulda...

Well, she's younger than many top ten girls, but I also think she's not young anymore. And I have to say that it's not fair to compare her to Monica. Today you can't imagine a 16 years old to win a slam. The youngsters in top 100 are 19 or 20 already. There are some WTA rules related to that, but I can't remember what they are about.

azdaja
May 5th, 2011, 09:50 PM
And before anyone comes saying we shouldn't take what she says to heart..
hey hey, she says she should play more matches, which is what i agree with :p

the only thing is, does that mean she will play more tournaments or just hope for a good run? :tape:

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 09:58 PM
hey hey, she says she should play more matches, whish is what i agree with :p

the only thing is, does that mean she will play more tournaments or just hope for a good run? :tape:

Since she said she hasn't decided yet, it's obvious she is going to decide based on how many matches she plays in Rome.

I think she will only add a tournament if she loses in the first round of Rome. 1 win and I don't think she adds anything.

And that's what I mean.. she doesn't really WANT to play matches. If she does, it's out of feeling obligated, since she will barely have 3 matches under her belt. If she really wanted to play more, she would add no matter what.

That attitude she has.. it sucks. Even if she were to add, she would most likely lose early as well, because she would be playing out of obligation, not because she really wanted to.

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 10:00 PM
Ana is deluding herself if she thinkgs she is young. She is in tennis prime! And if you compare her with Monica she is friggin' old.
She is only young because in this generation older gals are dominating, so it seems she is yound compared to Serena, Venus, Kim...
Also, she probably compares herself with JJ (and vice versa). Like I said in a thread in GM, their careers are intricately linked together, and I think they influenced each other much more than they would like to admit. This influence at times was beneficial, but I am not sure if the final balance is positive.
Funny thing, though, I had a dream a couple nights ago and in this dream Woz was just one of three sisters :hysteric:
Then I thought on waking up, OMG imagine if there were three of them and shared the secrets with each other about beating the other girls, like the Williamses surely do. Other girls wouldn't even come close to the titles.
Anyhow...the Serbian gals could have as well been Serbian sistas dominating the tour...But as they say -
coulda woulda shoulda...

I wonder if Ana will keep saying she is still young in 3 years time. :tape: She has been repeating that... "I have time.. I'm young" mantra for the last 3 years. :help:

:lol: about the dream.

Cajka
May 5th, 2011, 10:08 PM
I wonder if Ana will keep saying she is still young in 3 years time. :tape: She has been repeating that... "I have time.. I'm young" mantra for the last 3 years. :help:

:lol: about the dream.

It's a bad sign. JJ was saying she was young and that she had enough time to win a slam. Ant it hasn't happened yet.

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 10:53 PM
Ok.. so here are Ana's quotes from today's press conference with Rolex and Manolo Santana. It's not as bad as the articles.. the press really loves to get a splashy title for their news pieces.


ANA IVANOVIC.-
Q. I would like to ask Ana what her plans are from here to Roland Garros, she mentioned earlier to me that she was playing in Rome, so after Rome are you going to play anywhere else?
A. Yes, I am going to Rome in a couple of days and I still haven’t decided if I'm going to play something the week before Paris. I definitely feel I need to play a lot more matches, its been a lot of stopping and going, but I feel good about where my game is at the moment and I just need to go out there and compete more.


Q: I wanted to ask her, I've been reading these days her columns in 'Marca newspaper' and if she likes to write or if you have a diary?
A. Yes, sometimes its hard to write about the games, but I like to write and I think Madrid is a great city and this is a great week and lots of fun things are happening and also it's a great way to bring fans closer to the game and also show them what´s happening behind the scene a little bit and yes give them a bit of insight about we have been up to.


Q. I wanted to ask what objective do you have in your game for this season and if you hope to be ranked among the top 10, if you keep dreaming about being number one?
A. Definitely that is my goal and I do think I have quality and potential to do that and do feel good about taking advantage of the moment and I've been working very hard also on and off the court and to keep healthy and get my body stronger. But like I said, I feel like I just need a lot of matches and that’s what I've been lacking the last few years. It just hasn’t been automatic for me to compete and I'm very keen to get more matches and to get out there and put myself in a position to win big tournaments.

http://www.ubitennis.com/sport/tennis/2011/05/05/500953-ivanovic_rolex_2011.shtml

But.. taking advantage of the moment is not Ana's thing.. in any case she is a specialist in wasting the moment. :tape:

I do wonder how keen she is in getting more matches.. she has the schedule of a part time player.. :tape:

Cajka
May 5th, 2011, 11:04 PM
I like this interview. There's a bashing thread in GM. Maybe you should post this interview there. ;)

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2011, 11:16 PM
I like this interview. There's a bashing thread in GM. Maybe you should post this interview there. ;)

Sorry.. I don't go to GM. You can post it there in my behalf. ;)

GM loves those Ana bashing threads.. :o

Cajka
May 5th, 2011, 11:29 PM
I did it. :devil:

Cajka
May 5th, 2011, 11:35 PM
I was bashing on Ana a lot these days. Now I suddenly feel better and I'm back to my old deluded "ančitard" mode. I like it. :crazy:

Ivanovic2008
May 6th, 2011, 01:44 AM
^ +1!

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 08:16 AM
Ana's column for Marca newspaper:

http://i54.tinypic.com/35ddsfk.jpg

Seriously.. it's Ana muttering a word, and me wanting to punch a wall. :help:

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 08:26 AM
She is already planning if she will be going to Mallorca or Switzerland to practice after Rome.. this is how much she wants matches. :tape:

Also says it's hard to explain how she lost to Mattek. She just suddenly lost confidence. Oh Ana, it's really not hard.. it's your inexistant mental game.

Ana's losses this year have been so mental... Collapsed against Makarova at AO, collapsed againt Patty in Dubai, collapsed against Kim in Miami, collapsed against Mattek in Madrid. In all she was in control and then bam! Stopped playing. We can also argue how mental was her loss to Bartoli in IW.. What is left? A retirement to Cibulkova and her first ever loss to an italian player, Vinci. But hey.. it's so hard to explain... :tape:

She says she went right back to work with Cahill and Olivier Morel, and that her shots and everything are good.. they are just working on being more positive. Ok Ana.. keep going, like that's enough! Her refusal to actually see the problem and work hard and specifically on it kills me.

Ana says tennis is hard because you can't really hide 5 minutes.. because in that time you'll probably have lost your serve and be on your way out. Can't she see there is always chance to recover, and that you don't have to panic? Her opponents to that to her ALL the time. :banghead:

Ah! Fed Cup is now a big tournament.. or so says Ana! :tape: She mentions she has played 2 tournaments on clay and feels very adapted to the surface. Yeah Ana, the whole 2 matches and a half you played were awesome, and pretty much enough! :tape::help: But hey.. all she really wants is to get to Paris!

Help me! I can't be so pissed every time I read what she says.. :help:

JAS_
May 6th, 2011, 09:07 AM
She is already planning if she will be going to Mallorca or Switzerland to practice after Rome.. this is how much she wants matches. :tape:

Also says it's hard to explain how she lost to Mattek. She just suddenly lost confidence. Oh Ana, it's really not hard.. it's your inexistant mental game.

Ana's losses this year have been so mental... Collapsed against Makarova at AO, collapsed againt Patty in Dubai, collapsed against Kim in Miami, collapsed against Mattek in Madrid. In all she was in control and then bam! Stopped playing. We can also argue how mental was her loss to Bartoli in IW.. What is left? A retirement to Cibulkova and her first ever loss to an italian player, Vinci. But hey.. it's so hard to explain... :tape:

She says she went right back to work with Cahill and Olivier Morel, and that her shots and everything are good.. they are just working on being more positive. Ok Ana.. keep going, like that's enough! Her refusal to actually see the problem and work hard and specifically on it kills me.

Ana says tennis is hard because you can't really hide 5 minutes.. because in that time you'll probably have lost your serve and be on your way out. Can't she see there is always chance to recover, and that you don't have to panic? Her opponents to that to her ALL the time. :banghead:

Ah! Fed Cup is now a big tournament.. or so says Ana! :tape: She mentions she has played 2 tournaments on clay and feels very adapted to the surface. Yeah Ana, the whole 2 matches and a half you played were awesome, and pretty much enough! :tape::help: But hey.. all she really wants is to get to Paris!

Help me! I can't be so pissed every time I read what she says.. :help:

I am trying really hard not to become a hater.

JAS_
May 6th, 2011, 09:14 AM
Ana says tennis is hard because you can't really hide 5 minutes..

This sentence reeks of Ana's not wanting to play. Tennis is hard, she wants to hide...

Essentially Ana liked tennis when she was a kid because she liked the glory side of things. When she reached the top, came expectations, and she doesn't like what she has found herself in. She would like to take a break but can't.
I honetsly find it really hard to be a tennis fan of a player who doesn't want to play tennis.
I feel really conflicted inside.
So, I think I will chill out my fandom a little. Or until Ana finds her love for tennis again. And I am not going to go looking for that love in her BS interviews. I am interested only in what her racquet has to say.

There are plenty of players who want to play tennis. And it shows right away.

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Ana's web just posted the english version of the Marca column:

Heading to Rome

Home › About Ana › Diary

It’s taken me a few days to get over my defeat on Sunday. It’s a tough one to explain: I was in control of the match, leading by a set and a break, but I somehow lost confidence and Mattek-Sands took full advantage.

Some defeats hurt more than others and this was one of the more painful ones, especially because it came here at the second biggest clay court event of the season.

Despite my disappointment, there was no time to sulk: I stayed in Madrid and trained each day with Darren Cahill of adidas, and my hitting partner Olivier Morel. My strokes and movement are fine – what we have been working on more than anything is maintaining a positive frame of mind and trying to avoid self-doubt.

That’s not always easy in tennis, because you are out there on your own and you have no one to depend on but yourself. Unlike in team sports, you can’t “go missing” for even five minutes, because in that time you may have been broken and you’re on your way to losing the match.

But it’s not been all serious business: I discovered that hitting the between-the-legs shot is a lot harder than it looks: the other day in practice I hit my own leg in the process of attempting it, and now I have a nasty bruise!

Away from the court I’ve been enjoying some excellent Spanish cuisine. I found time to visit the botanical gardens at Park Retiro, which were very beautiful.

I will go to Italy soon. I did well in Rome last year and I hope that I can use those good memories to my advantage next week. It’s an even more important event now that I lost so early here, because there isn’t much time before Roland Garros.

Obviously winning Roland Garros and becoming No.1 in the world three years ago is the highlight of my career so far. It’s my favourite tournament and I always look forward to going back.

Sure, I didn’t perform well there last year, but the memories of my victory come flooding back as soon as I walk onto Court Philippe Chatrier. Even before that, in fact – returning to a place you have had success in the past is always a special feeling, as you see the same faces again and recall some great experiences.

Although I have only played two clay court events – Fed Cup and the Mutua Madrid Open – I’m now used to playing on the surface. The preparation work that you do before your first clay court tournament is designed to give you a good base for the physical challenges ahead.

Two of the main areas of training we work on are footwork, because it’s so different on clay, and also strengthening the lower body, which literally gives you a stronger base and allows you to “push off” on your shots.

I haven’t yet decided where I’ll train after Rome, or if I’ll enter a tournament. I have a house in Mallorca so that is a nice option, or I could go home to Switzerland, where it’s extremely peaceful.

I’m already looking forward to going back to Paris.

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 11:37 AM
This sentence reeks of Ana's not wanting to play. Tennis is hard, she wants to hide...

Essentially Ana liked tennis when she was a kid because she liked the glory side of things. When she reached the top, came expectations, and she doesn't like what she has found herself in. She would like to take a break but can't.
I honetsly find it really hard to be a tennis fan of a player who doesn't want to play tennis.
I feel really conflicted inside.
So, I think I will chill out my fandom a little. Or until Ana finds her love for tennis again. And I am not going to go looking for that love in her BS interviews. I am interested only in what her racquet has to say.

There are plenty of players who want to play tennis. And it shows right away.

I feel the same.. When Ana really WANTED to play tennis, she always got the results. Like late last year... she looked like she wanted to play, added a bunch of tournaments.. and it payed off. Her attitude changed, and that was what made the difference. Now it just looks like she wants to hide again.

I also feel very conflicted about it from a fan point of view. Why support and hope for good things for someone who doesn't really want to play tennis?

JAS_
May 6th, 2011, 12:14 PM
I feel the same.. When Ana really WANTED to play tennis, she always got the results. Like late last year... she looked like she wanted to play, added a bunch of tournaments.. and it payed off. Her attitude changed, and that was what made the difference. Now it just looks like she wants to hide again.

I also feel very conflicted about it from a fan point of view. Why support and hope for good things for someone who doesn't really want to play tennis?

I have a problem with the definition of support. What does it mean really? Follow her daily whereabouts? I don't care. I don't care about her interviews, her photoshoots, her sponsor pressers, her being cute. That's fine really, but I care about her tennis, that's why I became a fan, not because of this or that.
And there is no tennis to talk about anymore, she isn't making it deep enough in tournaments to even watch her matches, I have to draw conclusions from the scoreboard. I could only watch her thanks to Fed Cup and then she withdrew.
Her problem is that she is too beautiful and charming and she is always being treated like she is currently a top 5 player, drawing attention for whatever she does or says. So it's hard for her to get a grip with reality and assess where she really stands.

Cajka
May 6th, 2011, 12:23 PM
I read the article in Spanish and it all seemed OK. Then I read your posts and I thought that I probably didn't understand it well, which was strange, 'cause my Spanish is OK. Now I read the English version and I still don't see a problem. What she wrote was completely fine. Guys, you overanalyze every word she writes in that column. She's not someone who plays 5 events in 5 weeks, she never did such thing. She's never done that before, she won't do it now, we knew that before reading this, she doesn't feel good doing it and I respect that. If she loses early, she'll play something before Paris, that's all. If not, she'll practice, and that's OK. I suppose she practiced a lot on clay already and that's why she feels prepared. I know that training is not the official match and lack of official matches is a real problem for her, but it's not a problem because of surface, she just needs more matches, that's all. I don't see why you guys talk about becoming a hater. It's not that she said that this is a great season and that she doesn't want to train anymore, but to go to some beach. We've been through a worse, she was destroyed in 2R of RG and said her tennis was good in that match. She didn't say anything really clever or new in this column, but it was OK.

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 12:33 PM
I read the article in Spanish and it all seemed OK. Then I read your posts and I thought that I probably didn't understand it well, which was strange, 'cause my Spanish is OK. Now I read the English version and I still don't see a problem. What she wrote was completely fine. Guys, you overanalyze every word she writes in that column. She's not someone who plays 5 events in 5 weeks, she never did such thing. She's never done that before, she won't do it now, we knew that before reading this, she doesn't feel good doing it and I respect that. If she loses early, she'll play something before Paris, that's all. If not, she'll practice, and that's OK. I suppose she practiced a lot on clay already and that's why she feels prepared. I know that training is not the official match and lack of official matches is a real problem for her, but it's not a problem because of surface, she just needs more matches, that's all. I don't see why you guys talk about becoming a hater. It's not that she said that this is a great season and that she doesn't want to train anymore, but to go to some beach. We've been through a worse, she was destroyed in 2R of RG and said her tennis was good in that match. She didn't say anything really clever or new in this column, but it was OK.

We can agree to disagree.

I think this column shows her attitude pefectly. And it sucks...

She somehow choked a match.. but hey, everything is fine. Mental game problems? Nah.. all she needs is to be a tiny bit more positive.. :tape: She needs more matches, but doesn't do anything to get them. But hey, that's ok.

And we never asked for her to play 5 tournaments in a row. Never.. she has the schedule of a top 5 player, and she hasn't been one for 3 years! She is barely playing, because besides the schedule, she is losing early left and right. She needs matches, but doesn't add tournaments.. But hey, everything is fine..

Come on.. It shows her bad attitude, bad approach towards tennis.. and that's exactly the reason she is not doing well at all.

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 12:35 PM
I have a problem with the definition of support. What does it mean really? Follow her daily whereabouts? I don't care. I don't care about her interviews, her photoshoots, her sponsor pressers, her being cute. That's fine really, but I care about her tennis, that's why I became a fan, not because of this or that.
And there is no tennis to talk about anymore, she isn't making it deep enough in tournaments to even watch her matches, I have to draw conclusions from the scoreboard. I could only watch her thanks to Fed Cup and then she withdrew.
Her problem is that she is too beautiful and charming and she is always being treated like she is currently a top 5 player, drawing attention for whatever she does or says. So it's hard for her to get a grip with reality and assess where she really stands.

I have the same conflict.. I'm not drawn to Ana the celebrity. I liked her as a player. And she doesn't even resemble that player I once liked.. I can barely ever see her playing tennis anyway.. and the attitude towards the sport almost offends me. I'm.. just.. uff..

Cajka
May 6th, 2011, 12:44 PM
She's already a target, her opponents know how vulnerable she is, she can't just say that she's not optimistic that she doesn't see the way out or something. But, then again, she mentioned that the coaches are trying to improve her attitude.

JAS_
May 6th, 2011, 12:48 PM
You wanna know what annoys me?
Statements like this:

"It just hasn’t been automatic for me to compete and I'm very keen to get more matches and to get out there and put myself in a position to win big tournaments."

What she says and does are complete opposites. Her saying this offends me as a fan who has been following her.
Saying this just a fortnight before RG, where just a fortnight ago she withdrew from Marbella makes me think JJ fans are right, she says what her sponsors write for her without any regard for truth, for people reading it, fans who know it isn't true, because it cannot possibly be that she believes this :bs:
Or can she? :tape:

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 12:49 PM
She's already a target, her opponents know how vulnerable she is, she can't just say that she's not optimistic that she doesn't see the way out or something. But, then again, she mentioned that the coaches are trying to improve her attitude.

There is a difference between being deluded and sounding stupid and out of touch with reality to being negative. Nobody is asking her to be negative.. This article just shows her attitude and her approach to tennis.. she is clueless.. preeches things that she doesn't do.. talks too much, believes too little.. and doesn't see what really holds her back.

JAS_
May 6th, 2011, 12:52 PM
She's already a target, her opponents know how vulnerable she is, she can't just say that she's not optimistic that she doesn't see the way out or something. But, then again, she mentioned that the coaches are trying to improve her attitude.

This :help:
Is SHE going to do something herself or is everything on others to do it for her?
No one can change your attitude for you. She sounds like a schoolgirl who is responding what she thinks is the teacher wants her to say.

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 12:53 PM
You wanna know what annoys me?
Statements like this:

"It just hasn’t been automatic for me to compete and I'm very keen to get more matches and to get out there and put myself in a position to win big tournaments."

What she says and does are complete opposites. Her saying this offends me as a fan who has been following her.
Saying this just a fortnight before RG, where just a fortnight ago she withdrew from Marbella makes me think JJ fans are right, she says what her sponsors write for her without any regard for truth, for people reading it, fans who know it isn't true, because it cannot possibly be that she believes this :bs:
Or can it? :tape:

It has nothing to do with sponsors, all to do with Ana herself. She has more personality than people give her credit for... for better or worse. I think she says it to convince herself. And because she thinks things will end up falling from the sky for her. It's not about going to get her goals, but them just materializing in front of her. She wants the "more matches" to come and the big tournaments to come to her, instead of her going to them. She is just waiting for it to happen.. she is young, she has time. :bs:

Too much talk, too little real belief and attitude to make things happen.

Cajka
May 6th, 2011, 12:58 PM
I have the same conflict.. I'm not drawn to Ana the celebrity. I liked her as a player. And she doesn't even resemble that player I once liked.. I can barely ever see her playing tennis anyway.. and the attitude towards the sport almost offends me. I'm.. just.. uff..

She's never been a mental giant, the only difference is that she didn't feel the pressure and now she does. Everyone expect her to come back, especially now when WTA is very weak. I'm convinced that there's a lot of people who try to give her some smart advice, too many different points of view. And knowing that she's never been strong enough to make her own decisions and step up explains it all. There's many people bashing on her at the moment, I was one of them. But I don't have a doubt when it comes to my support, as long as she plays, I'll be a fan. If she continues slumping, I'll support her. I'm a fan and I'll be a fan even if she starts playing ITF 10k events. The easiest thing is to be a fan of Nadal. Even when he loses, you know that he's doing his best effort. Ana is not Nadal, that's how things work. :[

JAS_
May 6th, 2011, 01:31 PM
Well, I guess I am not a true fan, then, and never was, really. I am just a person who was once impressed with Ana, but not so much anymore. Apparently being a fan means to freeze your opinion in time and drool over every :bs: your fave says, even if they themselves are frozen in time and show no sign of maturing.
Being a fan never was a lofty goal I aspired to, so I guess it's ok.

Cp6uja
May 6th, 2011, 03:18 PM
I feel the same.. When Ana really WANTED to play tennis, she always got the results. Like late last year... It will be really great if things are so easy - but its not like that. For example I'm pretty sure that this season Ana is most motivated for tennis in Melbourne and Madrid, but in both cases she have painful 1st round loses vs unseeded underdogs. At AO Ana used wrong "pure pusher" game-plan strategy so in-form Makarova is simple better player than pusher-Ana, and in Madrid (we not watch, but I guess) after 6-0 3-1 lead Ana has one of hers famous mental blockades.Her problem is that she is too beautiful and charming and she is always being treated like she is currently a top 5 player, drawing attention for whatever she does or says. So it's hard for her to get a grip with reality and assess where she really stands.Dinara Safina or Svetlana Kuznetsova never have "problem" like that, but theirs big slump still continue despite great talent which they have also. From my point of view being so popular is good thing for Ana which will motivate hers to not gave up from tennis so easy like some other WTA players in past. When You obvious crowd favorite like Ana in more than 90% her matches, that can be very helpful sometimes.She's never been a mental giant, the only difference is that she didn't feel the pressure and now she does.Actually before big slump after RG/08 title Ana has many "mental giant" indications, and she was famous like player with one of best 3-setters winning percentages in WTA history, and same about her high percentage of winning matches after winning opening set. Also together with Serena and Nadal Ana have longest strike of all active tennis players to be unbeaten in 1st round of GS's, and since start of hers pro career during 2003, till october of 2008 Ana won all matches (over 150 in the row!) where she have MP, which is just amazing, and on other hand she is only player in tennis history which at same GS (Wimbledon) three years in the row won matches after saving opponents multiple MP's... But that is old Ana (I mean young Ana)... Also I really don't agree that pressure now is bigger on her than before. Look just on her rankings or betting odds on hers. She is bookmakers TOP5 favorites every time when she reached GS finals in past, but now after over 10 slams in the row without any single GS QUARTERFINAL there is no so big expectations of Ana at all like before.

At end I should to give my explanation why everything is going so wrong (in terms of results) so far this season, but honestly I have no idea about real (main) reason - but according to symptoms I'm sure that answer is not bad coaching, lack of motivation, wrong schedule, off-court activity or stomach injury. Whatever is Ana's main problem let's hope she will be ready for RG-Wimby highlights of season, despite there is still no good signs.

JAS_
May 6th, 2011, 04:14 PM
At end I should to give my explanation why everything is going so wrong (in terms of results) so far this season, but honestly I have no idea about real (main) reason - but according to symptoms I'm sure that answer is not bad coaching, lack of motivation, wrong schedule, off-court activity or stomach injury. Whatever is Ana's main problem let's hope she will be ready for RG-Wimby highlights of season, despite there is still no good signs.

I am sorry but I disagree with this. I think that her schedule has very much to do with her problems on court. I know what you mean, she has mental lapses. But why? Can you give a credible reason for her panic attacks in matches once she is ahead resultwise other than fear of winning, which is just fear of losing in dusguise (winning means increase of expectations thus more pressure thus more attention on her, thus more pain for losing down the line, etc).
Ana is cracking under pressure and her schedule is not helping. The sparser the schedule the more weight is on every match. Read her last interview. She says Rome is NOW even more important than Madrid because she is in the situation that she is. Had she done better in Madrid, Rome wouldn't be SO important.
So, by giving herself few chances to get matchplay on clay, she is directly upping the pressure.
Please don't tell me these two are independent of each other.

JAS_
May 6th, 2011, 04:24 PM
Here is the quote:

I will go to Italy soon. I did well in Rome last year and I hope that I can use those good memories to my advantage next week. It’s an even more important event now that I lost so early here, because there isn’t much time before Roland Garros.

Which is precisely why I said go play Marbella start slowly and she would have won a few matches early and every subsequent event she would have played with less pressure. And who knows, had she been more relaxed maybe she wouldn't have reinjured herself in FC? But no, someone said: what if she loses in Marbella? So, what? She loses, big deal. Like she hasn't lost ever before?
But anyhow...
It's pointless. She has a mental problem, and she is all "why, how da hell did that happen?".
Even the most ardent JJ fans/ haters don't think she's that stupid not to see what's happening and are saying nothing will change until she does something about it.

And I agree with you, Cp6uja, about Ana's mentality before, now after seeing the stats even more. She had all the signs of a mental giant. And it's a pity to see what she could be compared with what she is chosing to be.

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 04:27 PM
It will be really great if things are so easy - but its not like that. For example I'm pretty sure that this season Ana is most motivated for tennis in Melbourne and Madrid, but in both cases she have painful 1st round loses vs unseeded underdogs. At AO Ana used wrong "pure pusher" game-plan strategy so in-form Makarova is simple better player than pusher-Ana, and in Madrid (we not watch, but I guess) after 6-0 3-1 lead Ana has one of hers famous mental blockades.


I think Ana is showing that she doesn't really WANT to play tennis.. to be out there competing. She wants the glory to come, but not to make it happen. If she WANTED to play more tennis, she would have played more tennis.. adding tournaments or whatever it is.

As for AO, did Ana really want it that much? Her first message that day was that she was unprepared.. And she indeed was due to the injury. In a way, all she wanted was to get through that.. but it's not enough.. you have to really want to play tennis, regardless of what is going on.

It's really not the same as motivation.. I'm sure she was motivated at Wimbledon last year, but she didn't really WANTED to be playing tennis.

I am sorry but I disagree with this. I think that her schedule has very much to do with her problems on court. I know what you mean, she has mental lapses. But why? Can you give a credible reason for her panic attacks in matches once she is ahead resultwise other than fear of winning, which is just fear of losing in dusguise (winning means increase of expectations thus more pressure thus more attention on her, thus more pain for losing down the line, etc).
Ana is cracking under pressure and her schedule is not helping. The sparser the schedule the more weight is on every match. Read her last interview. She says Rome is NOW even more important than Madrid because she is in the situation that she is. Had she done better in Madrid, Rome wouldn't be SO important.
So, by giving herself few chances to get matchplay on clay, she is directly upping the pressure.
Please don't tell me these two are independent of each other.

Exactly.

And we can make a point for everything.. if she had a hands on coach who she trusted, he could make her see that it was not "somehow I lost confidence", but that it's something that has been happening again and again and needs to be addressed. Cahill has SO many players, he probably doesn't even watch all of her matches.

The sparse schedule not only puts too much importance in each match, it doesn't allw her to have match management abilities, which are extremely important. She said it herlsef, competing hasn't come naturally. So.. the obvious thing to do would be to compete as much as possible, to get it to be natural.

And then comes the desire.. she obviously doesn't really WANT to play tennis.. if she did, she would actually do something to play more.

So on.. it's all wrong.. and Ana doesn't even do anything about it. She is clueless.. denying.

gaviotabr
May 6th, 2011, 04:33 PM
Here is the quote:



Which is precisely why I said go play Marbella start slowly and she would have won a few matches early and every subsequent event she would have played with less pressure. And who knows, had she been more relaxed maybe she wouldn't have reinjured herself in FC? But no, someone said: what if she loses in Marbella? So, what? She loses, big deal. Like she hasn't lost ever before?
But anyhow...
It's pointless. She has a mental problem, and she is all "why, how da hell did that happen?".
Even the most ardent JJ fans/ haters don't think she's that stupid not to see what's happening and are saying nothing will change until she does something about it.

And I agree with you, Cp6uja, about Ana's mentality before, now after seeing the stats even more. She had all the signs of a mental giant. And it's a pity to see what she could be compared with what she is chosing to be.

I'm really lost for words about how can Ana just not see the obvious. The patterns are there for anyone to see... yet she is clueless.. like she doesn't understand what's happening. And there doesn't seem to be anyone around her to see it either. A little bit more positive, like she says, won't solve anything.

I do think this shortcomings were always there.. she just could refocus in time to win, which she now can't. But yeah.. Ana has ruined her legacy. She actually had a beautiful career in the making 3 years ago. Now she is the poster girl for mental breakdowns.. and she doesn't even see it!

Ivanovic2008
May 7th, 2011, 01:53 AM
Ana wrote that she was working on non self doubt and mental game! :eek:!!!!!!!!

JAS_
May 7th, 2011, 07:11 AM
I have a solution for Ana: BOOTCAMP! :)
No, really, she needs a no nonsense coach/commander and to be treated like everyone else (to forget she is Ana Ivanovic, who is in command of her coaches). She is too fragile - physically and mentally. She litterally needs to toughen up. It's been too long. It's three years now taken away from her prime tennis years. I can hardly believe it. It's highest time.

Ivanovic2008
May 7th, 2011, 07:17 AM
If Ana doesn't except the WC for strausborg......

gloria7
May 7th, 2011, 07:55 AM
Why would she go to Switzerland after Rome if Cahill will be in Paris, with other Adidas players?Too bad she didn't want to go and practice in Basel when she was working with Heinz. That way Heinz would be able to spend more time with his family, and she would have a good preparation(and a coach)during the off season. I don't remember when Ana had the last training session in Basel. I think she visited Rolex factory or Unicef office in Geneva last year, but that's it.
"...in Switzerland ,where is extremely peaceful..." She sounds like she's tired. Of what?-People,us-crazy fans,losses,jornalists,tennis,matches?

JAS_
May 7th, 2011, 08:08 AM
Why would she go to Switzerland after Rome if Cahill will be in Paris, with other Adidas players?Too bad she didn't want to go and practice in Basel when she was working with Heinz. That way Heinz would be able to spend more time with his family, and she would have a good preparation(and a coach)during the off season. I don't remember when Ana had the last training session in Basel. I think she visited Rolex factory or Unicef office in Geneva last year, but that's it.
"...in Switzerland ,where is extremely peaceful..." She sounds like she's tired. Of what?-People,us-crazy fans,losses,jornalists,tennis,matches?

I am afraid Ana has a case of mental burnout and in the worst possible moment. This is the case of being tired when there is apparently no reason, but actually the reason is psychological - it is "trying" without success. You need to find energy to keep going when really there are few things that naturally motivate - the rewards for your efforts. This happens when people exert a lot of effort but in a wrong way - and thus have poor results. And this is what Ana is doing - loooking for solutions in the wrong places. If you're looking for something under a lightpole just because there is light there so it is convenient for you to search around, and not because what you look for is actually there, the result is predictable, but the effort has been exerted equally.

I was slightly worried this might have happened when Ana had practically only a two week break last off season. She was so eager to go back to training so she can build on her Fall successes. Another bad decision on her part. I remember thinking that not having a proper break might catch up with her during the season. It's all extremes with her. Either she trains to the point of overexertion, or she doesn't play enough. Pretty sure she made her clay schedule sparse thinking that way she will save herself from more injuries. It's a problem. She can't find a happy medium, and it's a problem in many aspects of her career.

Anyhow, it is what it is now. And she needs to find a way to push through. People have dealt with worse things than that, and successfully. If she can maka one good run, here in Rome is what is left, that itself would make this state of tiredness evaporate, and she would be pumped.

JAS_
May 7th, 2011, 08:18 AM
I honestly am not sure about Strassbourg. I don't like her playing a week before RG. I would prefer for her to be there and get adapted to the conditions. But at the same time, her abysmal clay season means she isn't adapted to competing AT ALL. Either way you look at it, she's between a rock and a hard place. And it's her own fault. And that's why I said - start early, go to Marbella, and THEN you have leeway to maneuver as opposed to always being cornered and making forced moves.
Really, it's so simple, it's not rocket science, you don't need to be an expert to see this.
Also, what is going to happen after RG? Not even Cahill? Is there any thought put into it? No, probably, because situation is so bad now that all energy has to be put into salvaging the clay season. It's all these ad hoc decisions that are her ruin. And she is not the type of person to thrive on that, either.

gaviotabr
May 7th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Ivanovic Continues to Work with Cahill

Ana Ivanovic has decided to continue her work with adidas Player Development coach Darren Cahill and it doesn't appear that she will hire a full time, private coach any time soon.

Ivanovic's management team told DTN that Cahill is working closely with the 17th ranked Serbian's hitting partner Olivier Morel, whom travels with her full time. Ivanovic is working specifically with Cahill and not other members of the adidas coaching team that includes Sven Groenfeld and Mats Merkel.

http://www.tennisnews.com/exclusive.php?pID=33655

Maybe next year Ana can get some results.. Because it obviously takes 1 week for her to give up on a coach and over 1 year of frustration for her to give up on APDP.

:banghead:

JAS_
May 7th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Wow, so she will have no guidance and tactical preparation in potential matches with a whole bunch of Adidas players, including some pretty hot ones like Andrea and Woz, and this is not a source of insecurity for her?
Okey-dokey.

JAS_
May 7th, 2011, 12:28 PM
Not to mention that this pretty much means no GS titles until Woz gets one. :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
May 7th, 2011, 12:31 PM
I am afraid Ana has a case of mental burnout and in the worst possible moment. This is the case of being tired when there is apparently no reason, but actually the reason is psychological - it is "trying" without success. You need to find energy to keep going when really there are few things that naturally motivate - the rewards for your efforts. This happens when people exert a lot of effort but in a wrong way - and thus have poor results. And this is what Ana is doing - loooking for solutions in the wrong places. If you're looking for something under a lightpole just because there is light there so it is convenient for you to search around, and not because what you look for is actually there, the result is predictable, but the effort has been exerted equally.

I was slightly worried this might have happened when Ana had practically only a two week break last off season. She was so eager to go back to training so she can build on her Fall successes. Another bad decision on her part. I remember thinking that not having a proper break might catch up with her during the season. It's all extremes with her. Either she trains to the point of overexertion, or she doesn't play enough. Pretty sure she made her clay schedule sparse thinking that way she will save herself from more injuries. It's a problem. She can't find a happy medium, and it's a problem in many aspects of her career.

Anyhow, it is what it is now. And she needs to find a way to push through. People have dealt with worse things than that, and successfully. If she can maka one good run, here in Rome is what is left, that itself would make this state of tiredness evaporate, and she would be pumped.

Sometimes I feel like Ana gets to a point in a match that she feels like she can just relax a little, and that things will come regardless. Like... A set and a break up, I have the match under control, I can just relax.. and then she loses concentration, let's the intensity go, with it goes all her precision.. and she panics and starts to push. When she sees herself a double break down in the third, she has a rush of adrenaline and focuses and gets herself back in it. But then she feels.. ok, I'm back in it, I can relax a bit now.. and down goes everything again.

She has to learn ways to never let the intensity down, play each point to win it.

But yeah.. it's a form of mental burnout, like she being focus tires her too much she needs moments to relax within a match.

Anyway.. if she doesn't work on this it will always come back to bite her.

I honestly am not sure about Strassbourg. I don't like her playing a week before RG. I would prefer for her to be there and get adapted to the conditions. But at the same time, her abysmal clay season means she isn't adapted to competing AT ALL. Either way you look at it, she's between a rock and a hard place. And it's her own fault. And that's why I said - start early, go to Marbella, and THEN you have leeway to maneuver as opposed to always being cornered and making forced moves.
Really, it's so simple, it's not rocket science, you don't need to be an expert to see this.
Also, what is going to happen after RG? Not even Cahill? Is there any thought put into it? No, probably, because situation is so bad now that all energy has to be put into salvaging the clay season. It's all these ad hoc decisions that are her ruin. And she is not the type of person to thrive on that, either.

That's the problem with bad decisions.. They always come to bite you, and then you have to make other decisions to correct the first ones. But those wouldn't be good decisions in the first place.. they are only good because it's the only way to correct the first ones.

She should have played Marbella.. but withdrawing then was only one of many bad decisions.

gaviotabr
May 7th, 2011, 12:33 PM
Wow, so she will have no guidance and tactical preparation in potential matches with a whole bunch of Adidas players, including some pretty hot ones like Andrea and Woz, and this is not a source of insecurity for her?
Okey-dokey.

It's just SO stupid, I have no words.

Not to mention that this pretty much means no GS titles until Woz gets one. :rolleyes:

Of course.. actually, it means no nothing. It's no support system, nobody to actually pay atention to her and her matches to see patterns and mistakes. Blah.. maybe next year.. this is done and over with.

JAS_
May 7th, 2011, 12:36 PM
Sometimes I feel like Ana gets to a point in a match that she feels like she can just relax a little, and that things will come regardless. Like... A set and a break up, I have the match under control, I can just relax.. and then she loses concentration, let's the intensity go, with it goes all her precision.. and she panics and starts to push. When she sees herself a double break down in the third, she has a rush of adrenaline and focuses and gets herself back in it. But then she feels.. ok, I'm back in it, I can relax a bit now.. and down goes everything again.



Yes, that's exactly how I feel! So, she's lacking mental fitness. She is not fit to be focused long enough. So she needs to practice that, it's not that different than physical fitness. But she needs to put herself out ther to gain more (mental) endurance.

gaviotabr
May 7th, 2011, 12:44 PM
Yes, that's exactly how I feel! So, she's lacking mental fitness. She is not fit to be focused long enough. So she needs to practice that, it's not that different than physical fitness. But she needs to put herself out ther to gain more (mental) endurance.

The problem is that she thinks there is no problem. She thinks it's just a matter of being a tiny bit more positive. And it's not..

As you say, it's practice. And she doesn't think she has to practice that.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2011, 11:50 AM
I have a solution for Ana: BOOTCAMP! :)
No, really, she needs a no nonsense coach/commander and to be treated like everyone else (to forget she is Ana Ivanovic, who is in command of her coaches). She is too fragile - physically and mentally. She litterally needs to toughen up. It's been too long. It's three years now taken away from her prime tennis years. I can hardly believe it. It's highest time.

A coach like that would last only 5 minutes. Just look at what she does.. it doesn't take her more than a month for her to fire a coach.. but she insists on APDP for forever, even if it gives her no results whatsoever. Why is that? Because APDP barely has time for her, so there is nobody telling her things as they are.

And yeah.. 3 years of her prime completely wasted.

Ivanovic2008
May 8th, 2011, 04:15 PM
Not to mention that this pretty much means no GS titles until Woz gets one. :rolleyes:

Shocking! Breaking News!

(JK :lol:)

JAS_
May 9th, 2011, 12:25 PM
Been reading some tweets. Cronin :inlove:

TennisReporters Matt Cronin
@
@stet92 If Maria gets serve under control for sure she could reach semis. I also have more faith than most in Ivanovic but needs good Rome

Also interesting, Tignor about Kvitova:

SteveTignor Steve Tignor
Kvitova's best: Her running forehand down the line that she hits behind her opponent. She loves that shot; not much you can do to combat it

This reminds me of Ana's forhand parallels off both wings. I used to love it when she gets a serve wide to her backhand side and she would run around it and then just close the FH parallel down the line. Such a rare and beautiful shot. Also when she's on the run and hits a FH parallel from outside of the court. She should do those more often. I think she lost them in 09 when she lost her faith in her FH but now not that FH is back there is no reason not incorporate those shots more often.

Cajka
May 9th, 2011, 12:49 PM
Btw, I can't understand how someone fgs could think that Ana is a ballbasher. Her fh is very strong indeed but it used to be so much more than a fast and strong shot. She used to hit it very precisely, it always seemed to be effortless, no matter if it was CC or DTL. And the most important thing, it was so hard to read. On the other hand, ballbashers just hit it as hard as possible, the direction of those shots is often very predictable and it's very suitable for pushers. In the worst moments of Ana's slumping era, her serve and forehand were really not that bad, her head was the worst part of her tennis always, even when she was top 5.

And Kvitova is really talented, her game has more variety than Azarenka's and that's why I thought she might win. When her game is on, she can hit some good volleys, she can improvise also. But, when she's off... It's a disaster to watch. For example, I love watching Šafarova even when she loses, but some players are just disaster when they are off.

Ivanovic2008
May 9th, 2011, 02:29 PM
^ Agreed completley.
Everything's in the head. Cut it off Ana and get a new one.

Cajka
May 9th, 2011, 02:50 PM
Noooo, it's such a beautiful head. :bigcry:

gaviotabr
May 16th, 2011, 09:40 AM
Few quotes from Ana in Strasbourg:

What fairy to Strasbourg?

on 16/05/2011 at 00:00 by John Deutsch Viewed 216 times

According to Maria Sharapova in 2010, Ana Ivanovic will be the big headline of the Internationaux de Strasbourg 2011. With the same success in the end? Photo Jean-Marc Loos / Production Studio Europe
Ana Ivanovic, who discovers the Strasbourg International new look, and Annabel Medina Garrigues, triple winner at Hautepierre arise as two of the most serious contenders for victory in the 25th edition of the WTA tournament, which opens the final table today.

Ivanovic in love
If Medina Garrigues is known world, Ana Ivanovic, she is still in discovery phase of the site. Baloise adoption already knew the Upper Rhine to have stayed with his girlfriend Mulhouse, Ana-Maria Zubori, in his younger years. Strasbourg is a first for the beautiful Serbian: "I dined on Saturday in a restaurant near the cathedral. It is a lovely city, I love it! "Says the entry headlined the 25 es" SI ". "The tournament site is beautiful, with this view of the European Parliament. How can you put fans in the stands? "

'30 000, Denis Naegelen pleasant, the tournament director. No, 3000 ... "

At 24, Ana Ivanovic has lost none of the spontaneity of her youth, she won the first tournament at age 18, Canberra, and his first Grand Slam tournament at Roland Garros three years later . Since then, between coaching changes, injuries, growing pains or trust, the former World No. 1 (2008) runs after her best tennis. "But I'm not nostalgic for the past. What I did right before it's done, it acquired it in the bank. I'm looking to the future, provides the current 22 th to the WTA. Of course, I want in the top 10 by the end of the season. But what I want most is to stay healthy. "A vow is not trivial on a circuit where professional players who are going through a season without sores are very common:" The level became so high that it has not only become more difficult not to get hurt, but to win, simply. We can not now play a full season without s'aménager breaks. But I came to Strasbourg because I feel I still need games to earth to play well at Roland Garros. And the clay is my favorite surface."

Earth Alsatian succeed him she as well as Medina Garrigues? Response from today in Strasbourg, where the fairies begin to confront a sudden racket magic.

http://www.lalsace.fr/sport/2011/05/16/quelle-fee-pour-strasbourg

I have a big problem with this: "The level became so high that it has not only become more difficult not to get hurt, but to win, simply." No wonder it only takes 1 single good shot from her opponent for Ana to panic and gift the match away. She thinks the level is so high it's just too hard to win. Reality is the opposite.. the level of play nowadays is well bellow 2007/08, when she was actually winning matches. This is awful mentality.. she is building blocks for herself. Worst is.. people around her are probably giving incentives to this thought process.. she loses and they tell her it was just the opponent playing too well. It only makes her think she can't win, that they are better. How can you win thinking like this? It's bound to create insecurity and erase any confidence.

And I guess she has seen that top 10 by the end of the year is a very long shot goal now, she is already putting it away.

Awful mentality all together.. It's really no wonder she has been such a mental basket. It's sad to see.. someone with so much talent making so many bad decisions, and then losing all confidence because of that. I still hope there will come the day Ana wakes up, gets things and people right off court and gives herself the best chance to do well again.

gaviotabr
May 16th, 2011, 10:29 AM
I remember Lindsay Davenport did a "Who will be in the top 10 in 2011" report for Tennis Channel at the end of last year. People complained to her on twitter that she had not included Ana. That Ana would for sure re-enter the top 10, having barely any points to defend the first half of the year. Davenport replied that while she had faith in Ana's talent, she didn't understand her decisions, mentioning firing Heinz. She then said she was going to take a wait and see approach on Ana.

I remember thinking, while reading the whole twitter conversation, that I was sure Ana would be back in the top 10 by mid 2011. She would have to suck mightly for that not to happen, I thought, and she won't, because she is showcasing some good mentality now.

Now I have to say I wonder what's going to happen overall.. A few weeks ago I was thinking that maybe the best is to lose a few matches now to wake up and change attitude. But I'm beggining to think this might be it.. I mean.. Ana might be starting to enter acceptance stage. Back in february 2010, I was so pissed off with her attitude, I didn't post here for 3 whole months. She said later on she even thought about quitting tennis all together. But even then, I had the feeling she was not ok with just being some jorneywoman. That might even be the reason quitting came to her mind. There was a sense she was really unhappy with things. Now I get the feeling Ana is beginning to accept.. that she is ok with things, even if they are awful.. she might even dream higher, but she is okay with being some average top 30 player, after all, the competition is too tough.

So now I wonder if she will ever really change things around her. It's more comfortable like this.. and change only comes when there is no acceptance. Will this be it then? Or will she hit a wall at some point, wake up and change her mentality? I'm not sure..

I wrote this a few days ago in an e-mail..

I wonder until which point Ana will be ok with all this.. It has been 3
> years.. Imagine Ana at 26 hovering around the top 30, acomplishing virtually
> nothing.. would she be fine with it? She is always saying she still has
> time.. she is waiting for things to fall from the sky for her somehow.. so I
> wonder if there will be a point she will be ok with being a jorneywoman or
> if this point will actually wake her up. This is the 3rd straight year she
> throws down the drain, without learning from mistakes... actually repeating
> them. How long more can she keep at this, fooling herself she still has time
> and that she is on the right path? Wonder wonder..

I think that point is now.. and I think she is accepting.. she is going to play tennis the most comfortable way for her.. and just be ok with however things go.

gaviotabr
May 16th, 2011, 10:56 AM
Maybe this acceptance thing comes from spending way too much time with Gulbis.. wasting talent due to awful attitude and being ok with it is one of his specialties...

All jokes aside.. Today I already saw 2 articles refering to Ana as 24.. she is still 23, but time is going by fast.

Cajka
May 16th, 2011, 11:51 AM
There's nothing new here. She has no self-confidence when it comes to winning matches and she's afraid of injuries. And there's no way that she's satisfied with her rankings. She's just being timorous after all those devastating matches. I think that playing tennis is a real torture for her atm.

18majors
May 16th, 2011, 01:48 PM
When is Ana going to play Maria Sharapova in the final of a big event? I can't wait to see it.

Cajka
May 16th, 2011, 01:52 PM
Wimbledon 2013 :lol: WS and Kim will retire until then.

18majors
May 16th, 2011, 03:54 PM
Wimbledon 2013 :lol: WS and Kim will retire until then.

Frankly, I'll take Ana and Maria over WS nowadays. Serena is almost 30 and has many health issues and Venus will be 31 in June.

Would you settle for 2011 Wimbledon?

Cajka
May 16th, 2011, 04:08 PM
Maria is mentally strong. Yeah, she could play Wimbledon final this year. She lost to Serena last year, and it was a good, close match, but it's really hard to beat someone who hits 19 aces. And Ana... Could she reach GS final? She can, but she won't, somebody on this board has already said that. :bigcry:

18majors
May 16th, 2011, 04:17 PM
^Ana is young, talented and has a well-rounded all court game. She will be in the mix again once she has a good tournament.

As a fan of Maria Sharapova, I'm more fearful of Ana and Kvitova than Klijsters, Jankovic and Wozniacki.

Cajka
May 16th, 2011, 10:00 PM
Kim, Karolina and Jelena shouldn't be a problem for Maria on grass. They could be a problem on hard court, but only if Maria is off and they play really well. It would be interesting to see peak Masha against peak Jelena, Karolina or Kim in US open. Kim is multiple winner of US open, Masha won it once and Karolina and Jelena reached the final. I think that it would be the most difficult to beat peak Kim. Peak Jelena could be really tricky opponent, it would be a really tough match. Peak Karo stands no chance against peak Masha. I know that Masha lost to Karo on US open 2010, but we saw only peak Karolina in that match, Masha wasn't really good in that match. The best performance from Masha was QF of AO 2008, she destroyed Henin. I can't remember if I saw anyone playing like that. It was scary. :scared:

18majors
May 16th, 2011, 11:12 PM
^The only tough match Maria encountered in 2008 AO was final against Ana. Maria was lucky to win the first set because Ana had many chances. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.

We're overdue for an Ana-Maria final at a big event.

gaviotabr
May 18th, 2011, 02:09 AM
Google translation:

Head without wrist
The left wrist of Ana Ivanovic has played a nasty trick of the tournament organizers. (Photo DNA - Jean-Christophe Dorn)

At the Rome tournament after losing in the first round, Ana Ivanovic had delivered his thoughts on his blog. On the humorous, she spoke of a sudden she had given training in typing the ball between his legs. A small hematoma and did not speak more.

Yesterday morning, however, was the soup grimace. The Serbian was forced to withdraw from the tournament in Strasbourg death the soul and the left wrist at half mast.

Everything was played during the day Monday when his training slots have ceased to be offset. When, finally, Ivanovic was presented on one short, the content of its session, quite quickly, left some doubt.

After two or three strokes, she stopped. His left wrist, obviously, it was problematic. She energetically smeared ointment during the session before putting a bandage.

By early evening, while his booking had not been made for the short warm-up for his match yesterday against Lucic, Ivanovic was looking. This is where the organizers have learned his crime.
"Big disappointment"

The news was confirmed yesterday morning. "She is suffering from an inflamed wrist that prevents it from playing properly, said Denis Naegeli, director of the tournament. She withdrew from the tournament. "

An official statement, taken at mid-day on his website and signed by his pen, gave few details: "I felt this pain for some time despite my treatment. My doctor told me to leave my wrist to rest completely for a few days. "

The injury is not "arm holding the racquet, so I can continue to train but it is out of question to setbacks in the coming days. It's a big disappointment to have to withdraw from a tournament in which we are already present. I was impressed by the site. The reception was very good, I hope to return in the future. "

Given the density and quality of the picture, the withdrawal from Ivanovic did not create disaster yesterday at Wacken sport but a great disappointment. On Sunday, the Serb had raised the issue of injuries and the importance of being "healthy."

"His abandonment is frustrating but I have no doubt in his sincerity," said Denis Naegeli, director of IS. I really felt very affected. Before leaving for Paris by train, she sent a text message and sent one of his autographed rackets. It took months for contact and convince. She came, it was not bogus. There is nothing to say except that it heals as quickly as possible. "

After Kuznetsova and Rezai, SI lost another headliner. All tournament organizers are aware of these hazards, the pattern is acceptable when medically undeniable, unbearable when it comes to the whims or affectations.


http://www.dna.fr/fr/sports-de-raquette/info/5106679-Une-tete-sans-poignet

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2011, 05:38 PM
Women Who Can Win: Schiavone, Ivanovic, Li
By Richard Pagliaro - Thursday, May 19, 2011

For a multitude of reasons, this year's French Open women's tournament is one of the most wide open in years. Throughout this week, the editors of TENNIS.com will each write about three possible contenders—un, deux, trois—for the Coupe Suzanne Lenglen.

Deux: Ana Ivanovic
Once a powerful Parisian presence, Ivanovic can craft a Roland Garros resurgence if she can play the first-strike tennis necessary to impose her aggressive baseline game on opponents.

Since her resounding run to the 2008 French Open title, Ivanovic has been quiet on clay. She’s posted an an 11-9 clay-court record, has yet to return to a dirt final and hasn't been to a Grand Slam quarterfinal in her last 11 majors.

Yet the two-time French finalist remains a threat against nearly any woman on the terre battue. Only three current Top 10 players own winning records against Ivanovic—Kim Clijsters (4-0), Li Na (1-0) and Maria Sharapova (3-2)—and of those three only Li has a clay-court victory over her.

If the Serbian power player can fire her forehand and serve with ambition and accuracy and compete with confidence, she is capable of dictating play and posing problems for almost anyone.

http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/features.aspx?articleid=12043&zoneid=9

Nice article. Ana actually didn't exactly lose to Na Li on clay though.. she retired injured in their only match up, in Berlin 06, after winning the first set 6-1.

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Five underdogs at the women’s 2011 French Open: A fan’s perspective

By Matthew Spira, Yahoo! Contributor Network May 18, 5:25 pm EDT This article was produced by a Yahoo! Sports user. Submit a story.

Ana Ivanovic: World No. 21

Former world No. 1 and 2008 French Open Women's singles champion, Ana Ivanovic's 2011 season so far has been something of a disappointment. Her record stands at 9-8, and her best result this year has been reaching the quarterfinals. She has struggled with injury, including just this week when she pulled out of the Internationaux de Strasbourg due to inflammation in her left wrist. Ivanovic does expect to be ready for the French Open, however.

Ivanovic is on this list because clay is her best surface. When on her game, she is able to use her height and power to hit clean winners against shorter opponents. Given that in recent years she has struggled with confidence as much as anything else, the lack of a clear-cut favorite could have Ivanovic believing once again in her chances.

http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ycn-8492843

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2011, 06:02 PM
Mattek had this to say about Ana in her blog:

Before I even knew I was playing Ana Ivanovic first round I had heard a rumor that she was scared of big dogs. So when I saw her and her parents in the player restaurant I just had to show her a picture of my little Ruger. I promised her he was a good dog and would be on his best behavior for her, so she said she would ignore her fear and give him a chance! We'll have a play date set up for them during the tournament in San Diego and see if we can change her mind about big dogs. I had never played Ana before and as always I was pumped to see how my game would fare against a former French Open Champ and world No. 1. Fast forward to the middle of the match and I was down 6-0, 2-0 thinking to myself what the hell am I doing out here? I am on stadium court in high socks, eyeblack and just running around getting spanked!! Yes, I actually was thinking that to myself, and it made me laugh. As everyone knows I am a pretty free spirit and at that point I just decided to trust myself and know my game was good enough for the win. Sure enough, I fought back into the match, which was no easy task as Ana had come out on fire, but I was finally able to get three match points at love-40 on her serve. Ana wasn't about to let me off that easy, and she came up with five Ginormous first serves and put the pressure back on me to serve it out. Winning that match was a big confidence booster, but the reality of it was it was still only the first round!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2011-bethanie-mattek-sands-blog.htm

I can already imagine how it went.. it probably only took one good shot from Mattek for a relaxed Ana to panic and start to play like a pusher. :o

Ana is an eternal fountain of give away confidence. She gives it to so many players, no wonder she doesn't have any.

Cajka
May 19th, 2011, 10:01 PM
Ana's facebook.
Had a very good day. Nice practice this morning, including backhands. :) My wrist is feeling better. Then in the evening I went to the roof of a famous Parisian store and hit with Sam Stosur, Tsonga and Gasquet on a mini clay court. Amazing views of the city!

doni1212
May 20th, 2011, 02:20 PM
That's very good to hear!

gaviotabr
May 24th, 2011, 09:23 AM
Larsson enters against former world number one
PARIS. Ana Ivanovic is the former world number one won the French Open 2008th
But before meeting with Johanna Larsson is her shape very doubtful.
- I think it's a pretty good time to meet her now, "says Larson.

In 2008, Ana Ivanovic, 23, scorching. Serbian won the French Open - and stepped up as world number one.
But in 2011, she is far from its former self. Ivanovic has the best two quarterfinal places behind him, and is currently ranked 21: th in the world.
"Good time"
Swedish Hope Johanna Larsson, 22, believes she has a very good chance that blare against Ivanovic.
- It's not so much to think about, it's just to go in and go. I think it's a pretty good time to face Ivanovic.
Larsen describes his own form as well, and feel like a better player than a year ago, when she was a minor breakthrough in Paris.
- I know that my top level is higher now than last year, but it comes to getting into it a bit more often, "said Johanna Larsson.

http://www.expressen.se/sport/tennis/1.2446871/larsson-gar-in-mot-forra-varldsettan

Today's blaring warning
Johanna Larsson

Johanna are not afraid of Ana Ivanovic, Serbian and is a shadow of what she was a few years ago when she won here in Paris. She has never really managed to recover after that win. It is time for Johanna to attract, it is up to the evidence. Here she is the world's chance to win over big name again. She won over Li Na in Miami, and it is time for a replay now.


http://www.expressen.se/sport/tennis/1.2446870/fiddes-franska

:o:mad::o:mad::o:mad::o:mad::o:mad:

Win Ana, just WIN!

doni1212
May 24th, 2011, 09:42 AM
Thanks for making me nervous Izzy, :lol:

Pops Maellard
May 24th, 2011, 10:22 AM
http://www.expressen.se/sport/tennis/1.2446871/larsson-gar-in-mot-forra-varldsettan



http://www.expressen.se/sport/tennis/1.2446870/fiddes-franska

:o:mad::o:mad::o:mad::o:mad::o:mad:

Win Ana, just WIN!
OMG. :tape:

gaviotabr
May 24th, 2011, 03:35 PM
Tearful Ivanovic falls in first round

Reported on May 24, 2011

2008 Roland Garros champion Ana Ivanovic breaks down in tears during her press conference after her 7-6 (3), 0-6, 6-2 loss to Johanna Larsson in the first round. The No. 20 seed has been snake bitten by injuries this year and just discovered she has tendinitis in her left wrist. She was unable to hit her backhand until three days before the tournament.

"That's been really hard," she said. "Like I felt in March like before Indian Wells and Miami I could put some really good practice in and I was feeling healthy. That was good and I could continually to play better. Then Fed Cup, I injured my stomach again. It was always stop and go. It's very frustrating.Last couple of days I could hit my backhands, but it's very hard because you go through emotional stress, as well."

Oh noes.. she is going to blame it all on the injury. It's not only about that Ana, please change things! Please!

gaviotabr
May 24th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Tears and frustration for beaten Ivanovic

Mon, May 23 2011
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* Ivanovic unable to explain loss of form

* Wrist injury not a problem

By Julien Pretot

PARIS, May 24 (Reuters) - Former French Open champion Ana Ivanovic was reduced to tears on Tuesday wondering what had gone wrong after a first-round defeat at Roland Garros three years after winning the title.

The 20th-seeded Serb, who reached top spot in the world rankings when she prevailed on the Paris clay in 2008, lost 7-6 0-6 6-2.

"I'm very upset I lost, you know, because even though like I was injured, I felt like I was playing well," she told reporters as tears filled her eyes.

Ivanovic, 23, withdrew from the Strasbourg International last week because of a wrist injury but she said she did not feel any pain on court on Tuesday.

"The wrist now feels good. The inflammation is gone, so I hope it's not going to come back," she said.

Ivanovic seemed to have found her form when she rolled through a one-sided second set, despite still battling to stem unforced errors.

She went off the boil again in the sunshine on court Suzanne Lenglen in the decider and bowed out after one hour and 49 minutes when she netted a routine forehand.

"I wish I knew (what went wrong since 2008). I try to look back and see what I've done then and to do the same things. I'm just trying to work it out," she said.

Ivanovic has long battled injuries and this year has been no exception.

"It was always stop and go. I had physios traveling with me the last couple of weeks, but it hasn't really worked out the way it was supposed to," she explained. "It's very frustrating."

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/05/24/tennis-open-ivanovic-idUKLDE74N1JA20110524

I guess the bolded part explains why she keeps going back to APDP. But she has to realize she is not in the same situation.. and that she has tried APDP 3 other times after winning RG, all to bad results. I can't believe she doesn't see the bad choices she has made. It's so damn obvious. And I can't believe she doesn't see what went wrong..

She is really lost now.. she could really use a person around her who could see things and give her some guidance.

Cp6uja
May 24th, 2011, 05:48 PM
PARIS -- Ana Ivanovic was overcome with emotion after losing in the first round of the French Open on Tuesday, even shedding tears as she considered her recent form.

The 2008 French Open champion lost to Johanna Larsson of Sweden 7-6 (3), 0-6, 6-2. She also lost in the first round at the Australian Open.

"I try to look back and see what I've done then and to do the same things," the 20th-seeded Ivanovic said while crying. "I'm just trying to work it out."

For Larsson, it was only her second win in four Grand Slam appearances.

The 64th-ranked Swede saved four set points to force a first-set tiebreaker. She then took a 4-0 lead and hit a forehand winner to clinch an opening set in which Ivanovic made 17 unforced errors to only three for Larsson.

Ivanovic, however, fought back by winning six straight games in the next set.

"I just tried to forget about it quickly and move on and keep thinking positive," Larsson said. "I was really thinking about how nice it is to play in this big court and with all this crowd, and I was trying to get some help from them. It worked in the end."

Unforced errors caught up with Ivanovic in the final set as the Serbian netted a backhand to give Larsson a 3-1 lead before sealing her own demise by sending a forehand into the net.

"I felt like I was running out of power in the end," Ivanovic said. "I couldn't really adjust small steps and dominate with my forehand or couldn't really put that extra zip on the ball."

Ivanovic has worked hard to put her career back on track but her season has been hit by injuries. She had an abdominal strain that forced her to withdraw from the Sydney International in January and miss the Qatar Open in February. She injured her stomach again in a Fed Cup match against Slovakia in April and withdrew last week from the Strasbourg International because of a left wrist inflammation.

"I had physios travelling with me the last couple of weeks," Ivanovic said, "but it hasn't worked out the way it was supposed to. It's very frustrating.

"I feel like it's all there. I just need to be healthy and to be able to play. ... The inflammation is gone, so I hope it's not going to come back."

Ivanovic has not reached the last four of any tournament this year, while Larsson has advanced to the semifinals twice.

The 22-year-old Larsson cracked the top 100 last June.

"Right now I hope to get under 50, and then always keep getting better and (higher) in the rankings," Larsson said. "My vision is for sure top 10, but we take it step by step."Ana quotes in bold

gaviotabr
May 24th, 2011, 06:14 PM
I was really hopeful this hurtful loss could spark a change.. I'm not sure after reading these quotes..

It's really not about doing what she did in 2008. She is not the same player and she is not in the same position. She needs to see what she needs now. And she absolutely needs full team support.

I don't see Ana willing to make any change.. and that is really worrisome. And she looks like she has no idea of what she is doing or what she has to do. All very lost.

Empressive
May 24th, 2011, 08:57 PM
After reading these quotes, she's starting to remind me of Dinara. One big injury would knock her out of this game for a while. Ana. :hug:

gaviotabr
May 24th, 2011, 10:11 PM
After reading these quotes, she's starting to remind me of Dinara. One big injury would knock her out of this game for a while. Ana. :hug:

I'm not sure Ana could or would come back after a career threatening injury like Dinara's. Ana has these niggling small ones and already let it get to her head.

gaviotabr
May 25th, 2011, 09:08 PM
El músculo invisible


Un poquito Pacquiao y un mucho Kasparov, el Matador Nadal ha reiterado, en cinco épicos sets, dónde se apoya el poder de su tenis.

¿Y quién ha dicho que un partido de tenis se decide en la cancha? Uno puede soltar passing shots asesinos, globos precisos a la línea de fondo, reveses implacables como balazos y tener piernas más ligeras que el aire, y no obstante perder estrepitosamente. Sucede todo el tiempo, especialmente en los torneos mayores. ¿Qué otra cosa, por cierto, le ha pasado a Ana Ivanovic, que tiene todo de su lado en esta vida y una vez más se ha ido a hacer maletas en la primera ronda de un Grand Slam? Ella misma lo sabe, y acaso lo revela por la vía de un tenis emocional y pleno pero, ay, inconsistente. Por más que sea capaz de soltar golpes mágicos y agredir con fiereza a sus contrincantes, buena parte de sus grandes problemas vienen de la cabeza, que es donde los partidos suelen resolverse.

"¡Ojalá lo supiera!", responde el bombón serbio cuando alguien le pregunta qué diferencia encuentra entre la Ana que se llevó el trofeo en 2008 y la que hoy tropezó con la sueca Johanna Larsson. ¿Johanna Who, perdón? Lo cierto es que en la cancha del estadio Suzanne Lenglen Ana Ivanovic ha perdido otra vez contra sí misma. De poco le ha servido recuperar un set en 6-0 y romper el servicio de esa chica suertuda de Helsinborg comenzando el tercero, si sus monstruos al fin se han encargado de quebrarle el espíritu en los puntos decisivos. Cierto que últimamente la persiguen las lesiones, pero hasta eso es posible que Sigmund Freud pudiera entenderlo mejor. Diagnósticos aparte, mientras Ana se empeña en explicárselo hay quien pone el ejemplo a no más de cien metros de la sala de prensa: contra todo pronóstico, Rafa Nadal también se está pandeando.

Nadie como él sabe cómo saltar a la ofensiva desde la defensiva, pero los nervios ya le juegan chueco. Había quebrado el servicio de John Bazooka Isner en el primer set, y luego en el segundo. Iba 6-4 4-2, tenía el partido virtualmente en la bolsa y cuando menos piensa ya está empatado a un set: perdió el saque, se dejó masacrar en la muerte súbita, dejó ir concentración y consistencia, permitió a Isner crecer y ya no ve la suya porque recién tuvo dos break points providenciales y se quedó chiflando en su loma. Una vez más, el desempate opera como martirio y de pronto se mira dos sets a uno en contra. La única vez que eso le había pasado en estos territorios fue frente a Robin Soderling en 2009... y al chico rato ya se veía listo para las condolencias.

En otra testa menos galvanizada, habría sido más que suficiente ese par de set points venidos a menos para echar a perder el plan de juego entero, pero Nadal no lleva los últimos seis años entre el uno y el dos mundial por casualidad. Dejó ir un rompimiento y dos desempates, pero arranca la cuarta manga del partido y ya taladra el saque del contrincante con una enjundia fuera de este mundo. Cuando menos lo espera, el Coloso de Greensboro tiene encima toda una tempestad. Por si eso fuera poco, amén de reventarle sendos servicios el mallorquín no le regala un solo punto en todo el cuarto set. Literalmente, cero errores no forzados.

"Tuve un despiste." "He golpeado la pelota con un pelín demasiado de miedo." "Cometí errores de intranquilidad." "Había que enfocarse en el servicio y esperar un momento de inspiración." Como quiera que lo explique más tarde, todavía alterado tras un partido épico que habrá dejado las cuatro tribunas patidifusas y clamorosas, lo extraordinario es, de nuevo y como siempre, esa arma contundente que el Matador llama espíritu de lucha. Nada que esté en las piernas, el puño o la pelota, y sin embargo está en todas partes pues sin él no habrá juego que valga.

Es cierto que Nadal no ha dado hoy la mejor clase de tenis, pero sí una lección de corpulencia mental que explica por sí sola esas nueve estrellitas que adornan su mochila, una por cada gran trofeo arrebatado a la adversidad. Por partidos como éste, finalmente, uno le vende su alma a este deporte. Todavía sumido en un pasmo rayano en reverencia, Isner lo pondrá claro: nunca ha jugado con alguien así.

http://www.laaficion.com/node/75042

JAS_
May 26th, 2011, 08:46 AM
Nikola Pilic, a three time Davies Cup winner (as a coach) thinks Ana should maybe go back to Sven.
Go and be smart now.
That's the problem, once things start not working, different opinions start pouring in - how can Ana know which one is right? I think the best experts are on this forum. Clearly Ana doesn't read this forum, but we will nevetheless write as if she does, just in case ;)

http://sportservis.pressonline.rs/wsw/index.php?p=91&ni=22731

Cajka
May 26th, 2011, 10:00 AM
Pilić would be a good coach for her, maybe. :lol:

gaviotabr
May 26th, 2011, 10:50 AM
I wonder if Pilic knows Sven can't be her coach. It's easy to look back and say.. go back to the coach you had when you won a slam. But that coach isn't available to be HER coach, like her literally was at the time.

HowardH
May 26th, 2011, 05:31 PM
J. LARSSON/A. Ivanovic

7 6, 0 6, 6 2



ANA IVANOVIC

Q. Can you just tell us what went wrong out there?
ANA IVANOVIC: It's tough, you know. I had lots of chances in the first set and I was a little bit disappointed I couldn't use those set points that I had.
And then I started playing a little bit better in the second set, and then, yeah, just in the third set really I pulled back again, and she started to make a lot more balls.
I wasn't as aggressive, as dominating as I was in the second set.
Yeah, just disappointed the way I played.

Q. Looked like in the third set that you were almost without practice, so how much practice did you get in with the wrist injury? It looked like your rhythm was completely off there.
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, it was actually quite gusty today, so it was hard to find the rhythm throughout the whole match. And also I felt like I was running out of power in the end and couldn't really adjust small steps and dominate with my forehand or couldn't really put that extra zip on the ball.
I actually got like two or three days' practice where I could hit my backhands because of the wrist inflammation.
You know, it's tough, but, hey, that's how it is sometimes.

Q. Starting at the beginning of the year with the stomach thing, it's been hard, I would imagine, to just get on court consistently and find your game. It seems like you have some kind of injury almost every month, eh?
ANA IVANOVIC: That's been really hard. Like I felt in March like before Indian Wells and Miami I could put some really good practice in and I was feeling healthy. That was good, you know, and I could continually to play better. Then Fed Cup, I injured my stomach again. It was always stop and go.
I had physios traveling with me like last couple of weeks, but it hasn't really worked out the way it was supposed to. Just very frustrating to get this, because, you know, like with the wrist it was inflammation. I woke up with it the next morning after match. It's not really anything I hurt during playing.
It's very frustrating.

Q. What have they said about the wrist? You have tendinitis and you just have to rest and deal with the pain because there's nothing really they can do?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, exactly. I did lots of treatments. Yeah, I was kind of like the bone slid a little bit and caused like friction, and that caused inflammation.
So I just had to rest and massage a lot like through arm and shoulder.
It went away. Last couple of days I could hit my backhands, but it's very hard because you go through emotional stress, as well.

Q. How serious is this wrist injury? I mean, will that require surgery? Would you possibly skip Wimbledon to really make it heal completely?
ANA IVANOVIC: If it was up to doctors, I think they would make surgery on anything.
No, it's fine. Now I don't feel pain, and, you know, I'll keep doing treatments. Now, I mean, the most important thing is to get healthy and to get back on the court and like put the work in consistently.

Q. Given that end of last year playing really well, you get the game back, the Hopman Cup injury, having to go through this whole thing again has got to be really frustrating, because it seems like you put in the work, you worked things out emotionally, you got the team set up again, and now injuries. Do you feel like you're starting back all over where you were again?
ANA IVANOVIC: Well, I'm a different position than I was last year, because I really feel like I have put the work. Last few months I work really hard. At least I'm not that far back. You know, I feel like it's all there. I just need to be healthy and to yeah, to be able to play.

Q. I'd like to know how is the coaching situation? Did you come to the French Open without any coach?
ANA IVANOVIC: No, I'm working with Darren through adidas program.

Q. I'm sorry to talk to you during this moment, but what is the difference between the Ana of 2008 and the Ana of today?
ANA IVANOVIC: I wish I knew. I try to look back and see what I've done then and to do the same things. Yeah, I'm just trying to work it out.

Q. Are you gonna try to play before Wimbledon or are you just going to take a wait and see on how the wrist feels?
ANA IVANOVIC: No, the wrist now feels good. The inflammation is gone, so I hope it's not gonna come back.
So I'm just gonna try and keep practicing. My plan is to play Eastbourne at the moment. That's the main plan.

Q. Are you just crying out of frustration now because you don't well, the wrist is okay and you can't seem to get back the level of play you had before? What is happening?
ANA IVANOVIC: I'm very upset I lost, you know, because even though like I was injured, I felt like I was playing well.

From GM. Thanks to FFS for posting despite the Tennis Writers' Association's attempt to prevent the release of interview transcripts.

gaviotabr
May 26th, 2011, 05:44 PM
Thank you for the transcript.

This controversy with the Tennis Writters association makes no sense. I mean.. they say they will provide the best quotes. Fine.. but we want to read the whole thing.. and what is a 'best quote' for them might not be the most interesting thing.

As for what Ana says.. I just have one doubt. In the first question she says: "Yeah, just disappointed the way I played." And then in the last: "I felt like I was playing well." :scratch: Was she playing well or not according to herself? Or does she mean playing well as a whole.. in practice and such?

It seems to me that if Ana is unable to practice she just doesn't go into court to win. More like hoping to win.. but not to make it happen. She needs to learn to go into court to make the win happen, no matter the circunstances.

Let's see what happens next.. I really hope she can string wins together in her next tournement. I think she needs wins more than ever.

Tweedle
May 26th, 2011, 10:44 PM
Sorry, is there somewhere else where we can find all transcripts since this new ban, or was this just Ana's one being leaked?

Ivanovic2008
May 26th, 2011, 11:20 PM
The only thing good that has come out of this is that I know that cares and is not just after money. I was starting to get suspicious but after that it's gone.

Sean.
May 27th, 2011, 12:08 AM
I find that interview really encouraging. She didn't just give the usual rhetoric. She actually seems to realise that there is a problem mentally and that something needs to be done. I'm actually hopeful. :scared:

We've seen for a while that the game is there (barring the ball toss), she just needs to start closing out a few matches and things will turn around. Get a brain girl!

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2011, 12:16 AM
I find that interview really encouraging. She didn't just give the usual rhetoric. She actually seems to realise that there is a problem mentally and that something needs to be done. I'm actually hopeful. :scared:

We've seen for a while that the game is there (barring the ball toss), she just needs to start closing out a few matches and things will turn around. Get a brain girl!

What did she say that made you think she realized there is a problem mentally and that something needs to be done?

Sean.
May 27th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Nothing specific, just a general feeling from the interview. And the fact her answers were different than the usual 'I'm playing good, I feel confident.'

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2011, 12:55 AM
Nothing specific, just a general feeling from the interview. And the fact her answers were different than the usual 'I'm playing good, I feel confident.'

Ok. Thanks! I really want to think Ana will do something about what's holding her back, but the interview seemed more in the direction of shruging the loss off to lack of practice.. like she just needs to go back on court and be healthy and it will come.

But as you said, there is a problem mentally and something needs to be done. I'm glad you got that feeling, I hope you are right.

gaviotabr
May 28th, 2011, 06:56 PM
Ana Ivanovic: Beauty is in force
Posted on May 28th, 2011

In a new advertising campaign "WTA" symbolic name "Power is beautiful," the thirty-eight international stars of women's sports, natural beauty that takes your breath shined our Ana Ivanovic. Shooting took place in March in Indian Wells, California, and images are now posted signs Davy Knicks. Ana, one of the most beautiful spotistkinja, on them is presented in a perfect combination of innate grace and sports readiness.
At the beginning of the interview for the magazine "Hello!" Year-old from Belgrade said that it was hard to paint for the "WTA" campaign "Power is beautiful, but they are fantastic photos:
- To be honest, it was pretty hard on the photographic set. At the photo shoot for "WTA" campaign photographed me in action. Tennis balls were covered with talcum powder to create special effects. When I was hitting the ball, the powder is flying in a cloud on all sides, the clutter around me. However, as I used to dirt and untidiness playing tennis on a bed of slag, it is not a problem to me how I was sorry that I will mess dress and isflekati.
Although not won a good placement in the tournament in Madrid, was able to relax so they visited some interesting features of this city. Recently visited the botanical garden which has impressed. Looking back on his game, Ana says:
- In the last few matches I lost, at first I was advantages. I have to work on making ostanen solid player and aggressive enough to end the match. Thinking positively, and still play tennis well, but I no longer believe in myself.
In Ana's game felt the effects of abdominal injury that has had a month ago and for which she went to therapy.
- The whole season to me is troubled in some way. Frustrating it was to repair an injury, I just wanted to be able to practice and compete without fear, and loading time. It is hard to be the time I devoted therapies. I do not want to complain, because it is part of the job.
The next opportunity to demonstrate on the ground Ana will be in Strasbourg, where he will be playing tennis matches is a good chance to catch a rhythm before the tournament, "French Open".
- "French Open" is my favorite tennis tournament. Things can quickly change. Although I am not happy that I played in two big tournaments on a bed of slag, in Madrid and Rome, I like it in this sport do not have to wait long for the next opportunity.
Ana was very attached to their family members, mother Dragana, father and younger brother Miroslav Milos, who is studying in London and the summer plans to visit Belgrade.
- Just recently I talked with my mother and we realized that this is the longest period that I was not in her hometown. I planned to visit Belgrade before I was hurt, but the treatment I was not able to organize and find time for the trip. I hope to come to Belgrade soon, probably this summer.
Although it did not have the opportunity to travel to his hometown where he grew up, Anna, whose favorite book detective novel Stig Larson hit "The Girl with the dragon tattoo, enjoys spending time with loved ones.
- While I was in Belgrade, seeing my family. My parents were with me in Australia and the tournament in Madrid. Milos brother visited me while I lived in Las Vegas, and I was with him in London.
By: Nadezda Jokic

http://www.hellomagazin.rs/ana-ivanovic-lepota-je-u-snazi/

The interview was made before RG... sad to read.

gaviotabr
May 30th, 2011, 09:31 AM
Ana gets her own paragraph in an article about women's tennis:

Ana Ivanovic, winner in 2008, is another who just cannot seem to arrest her free-falling career. She once represented the last of a dying breed of female players. Grace over power, stylish gliding over hurried dashing.
A throwback to the likes of Martina Hingis and Steffi Graf. Instead of hoisting a trophy like she did three years ago, she now ends every tournament the same way - in tears at a press conference.

http://www.espnstar.com/editorial/news/detail/item627332/Leading-ladies-fail-again-in-Paris/

At least it is very complimentary of her old game.

siraya8
Jun 2nd, 2011, 07:55 AM
Interview with Ana Ivanovic!

Part 1: http://sport.ch.sportalsports.com/sportch/generated/article/tennis/2011/05/31/15449600000.html

Part 2: http://sport.ch.sportalsports.com/sportch/generated/article/tennis/2011/06/01/15453000000.html

gaviotabr
Jun 2nd, 2011, 10:15 AM
Interview with Ana Ivanovic!

Part 1: http://sport.ch.sportalsports.com/sportch/generated/article/tennis/2011/05/31/15449600000.html

Part 2: http://sport.ch.sportalsports.com/sportch/generated/article/tennis/2011/06/01/15453000000.html

Thanks for the interview!

Some of Ana's quotes are facepalm worthy though. :tape:

What characteristics should your new coach?

Right now I am very happy to work with Darren Cahill of Team Adidas.I'm curious to see how it goes.

She is curious to see how it goes... isn't she seeing it already?

initial progress already be identified?

Actually, it is difficult to say because of my many minor injuries. First I had problems with my stomach, as is well known to the wrist. When I was healthy during the tournaments in Indian Wells and Miami, I played my best tennis in part. This has been decided to do so with the help of Darren and the team. I have great confidence in them. The training is really fun. Darren is definitely one of the best coaches and his advice very valuable.


Shrugging it all out to injury and holding on to IW/Miami. The matches she has been losing have nothing to do with injury. Nothing. And does she really think she played her best tennis in IW/Miami? Really? :banghead:

I take solace in the fact that Darren is nowhere near her now. This is how far things have gone.. :help:

If you look back at your career so far. Have you made decisions you regret today?

Of course! Everyone makes mistakes. It would be silly to say otherwise. The important thing is to not make the same mistake twice.

This is the best part of the interview. It would be honestly hilarious if it wasn't destroying her career. She says the important thing is not to make the same mistake twice.. yet right now she is making the very same mistake for about the third time.. and paying for it. She obviously doesn't see the obvious though. :tape:

Cajka
Jun 2nd, 2011, 10:37 AM
"Ich bin gespannt, wie es weitergeht." I'm not sure if she wanted to say that she's curious. We need Aždaja for that. After all, it's google translate of an interview, that's already been translated from English.

gaviotabr
Jun 2nd, 2011, 02:21 PM
Ana's web posts this interview in their front page news. Of course they don't realize this is hardly a good advertisement of her.. they can't seem to see any obvious things.

It says a lot when I'm relieved the questions they posted were only the most cliché ones, that had been repeated ad-nauseum.. like her friendship with Novak, how she deals with photoshoots and how pressured she felt by the number 1 ranking.

http://www.nemri.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/epic-face-palm-face-palm-demotivational-poster-1236742013.jpg

gloria7
Jun 2nd, 2011, 04:15 PM
You know, APDP encourages that kind of thinking. I've read an interview with Gil Reyes yesterday: "For every athlete, even a minor injury is a - major problem. I still believe in Ana. She must be strong, fast and to wait for her moment to come. Don't be surprised when Ana begin to climb to the top. I believe that will happen soon."

So,Reyes is encouraging Ana's idea- "...I played bad due to an injury. When i'm healthy -i'm winning matches." They wont advise her to find a coach, physio or to get sport psychologist....It's like - "everything is going to be alright, soon you gonna feel better and you will climb back to the top.You don't need a coach outside APDP. We will give you everything you need, we are like family to you"...Looks like they are protecting their own "project",even if it is unsuccesful.

gaviotabr
Jun 2nd, 2011, 05:08 PM
You know, APDP encourages that kind of thinking. I've read an interview with Gil Reyes yesterday: "For every athlete, even a minor injury is a - major problem. I still believe in Ana. She must be strong, fast and to wait for her moment to come. Don't be surprised when Ana begin to climb to the top. I believe that will happen soon."

So,Reyes is encouraging Ana's idea- "...I played bad due to an injury. When i'm healthy -i'm winning matches." They wont advise her to find a coach, physio or to get sport psychologist....It's like - "everything is going to be alright, soon you gonna feel better and you will climb back to the top.You don't need a coach outside APDP. We will give you everything you need, we are like family to you"...Looks like they are protecting their own "project",even if it is unsuccesful.

Yeah, I saw that.. they are encouraging all the wrong things. Encouraging her to not deal well with injuries... building an even bigger block.. any little injury prevents her from doing anything.. people around her don't do anything but tell her how any minor injury is a major problem. Encouraging her to wait for things to fall from the sky.. after all, her moment will come some day.. yeah right.. nothing happens if you don't make it happen. That's such a bad mentality.. that's also why she can't turn any match around.. because at first adversity, it's like a sign that still not her moment. They are putting her in a passive position, like things happen to her, instead of her making things happen. This is an awful mentality.. and they are making some serious damage in Ana. And she is happy to allow it.

And of course they won't tell her to get a coach, even if it's so obviously needed. They want to have the most players posible attached to them.. it doesn't matter if they don't succeed. They already have their priorities in Murray and Caro.. all the others only serve the purpose of making the programme look big.

I guess Ana needs another half a year of losing to see how this is such a huge mistake. One she is making for about the 10th time. It's a real pity.. she is throwing more time and career down the drain.

Cp6uja
Jun 2nd, 2011, 07:13 PM
She is curious to see how it goes... isn't she seeing it already?Don't be cruel about Darren Cahill, he is not no-name in tennis world. He is former ATP TOP10 and former Agassi coach. Ana's 2011 claycourts results are pathetic, but I really don't see any big bad-coaching influence there. She playing aggressive and dominate, but her mental blockades and panic attack from some point during matches don't have anything with her coaches... its some Ana-only problems. It's not like Antonio van Grichen case where one single match is more than enough reason to fire him (Ana played like pusher in Melbourne). Don't forget that Ana have great coach last season during RG and Wimbledon, but results are total disaster and Heinz don't have anything with that!

gaviotabr
Jun 2nd, 2011, 08:23 PM
Don't be cruel about Darren Cahill, he is not no-name in tennis world. He is former ATP TOP10 and former Agassi coach. Ana's 2011 claycourts results are pathetic, but I really don't see any big bad-coaching influence there. She playing aggressive and dominate, but her mental blockades and panic attack from some point during matches don't have anything with her coaches... its some Ana-only problems. It's not like Antonio van Grichen case where one single match is more than enough reason to fire him (Ana played like pusher in Melbourne). Don't forget that Ana have great coach last season during RG and Wimbledon, but results are total disaster and Heinz don't have anything with that!

This is not the point. I have nothing against Darren Cahill, and IF he was Ana's coach, I'd be ok with it. He is not Ana's coach. He is coaching about 10 players, and has Andy Murray as his priority. He has no time or interest in giving Ana the emotional support and stability a player with constant mental blockades, as you say, needs. APDP is the worst influence posible for a player with mentality issues. Cahill is someone who couldn't care less, because he has SO much more going on.. he doesn't have the time or interest to see what is really holding her back. So APDP just encourages Ana to shrug these awful results to injuries and lack of rhythm, when it has nothing to do with that AT ALL. Or as Cahill said.. it's just a matter of being a little bit more positive. Yeah right..

The fact that Ana is persisting on such a huge repeated mistake is also a sign she is not willing to get out of her comfort zone to save her career.

You also underestimate the influence of a coach.. I've told this before. A coach is not only someone who will try to improve your FHs and BHs.. or tell you to play aggressive or like a pusher. A coach is someone who will also help you create your mentality and your mental preparation for matches. Ana needs that much more than anything.. much more than hitting a better BH. Yet Darren, at best, has time to help her with the BH.

And who cares about his reputation? Ana and you I guess.. One of Ana's biggest mistakes with coaches is choosing them based on reputation instead of on their projects for her game. Cahill is of no help whatsoever for her.. he can't give her what she really needs.

This disaster was bound to happen as soon as she got back to APDP.. it was beyond obvious. The lack of emotional support APDP represents, and the awful mentality they encourage got her where she is now.

gaviotabr
Jun 2nd, 2011, 08:33 PM
I've been reading around that Ana is stagnating. I wish she was stagnating... she is regressing.. and fast.

gaviotabr
Jun 2nd, 2011, 08:35 PM
And also.. It's no coincidence Ana had two considerable injuries right after spending 2 weeks doing fitness work with Gil Reyes. And then couldn't do anything.. the mentality that any minor injury is a major problem Reyes seems to pass on, can't help on court.

Awesome work by APDP indeed. :tape:

gaviotabr
Jun 2nd, 2011, 08:53 PM
Look at Na Li.. a mental mess after AO.. losing to every scrub in sight.. I think she lost about 4 matches after having MPs... then she gets a coach who focuses on her mentality and on how to keep her focused, and she completely turns it around. There you have her at RG final.

Michael Mortensen has no big reputation, is not a former top 10 and hasn't really been a high profile coach. But there he is doing a great job with Na Li. And he said himself.. it was never about messing with technique or working on this or that.. it was just about working on her mental game.

It's about finding a coach who can meet your needs.. who can fit you... who has the right project for your game. Not find some big name. A big name might not give you anything that you need, and it will all be for nothing. No matter how hard you work.

At this time last year, Ana wasn't working hard, according to her own words.. she wasn't putting in the effort needed. After Wimbledon, she recommited and, she already had the mental and emotional support from her team.. so things started to happen for her. Now.. if she keeps this set up, she can train 24/7 and she will keep on losing the same way. Because she is not working on what is holding her back.. and she has no support team around her to see it. So she is working on all the wrong things.. it's better not to work at all than to work on the wrong things.

I was starting to get really hopeful.. but this interview killed all my hope. It just shows how awful Ana's mentality is, and how she is not seeing her own mistakes and bad decisions. She is blaming all the wrong things for her failures as well. I felt she was going to do that after her 1st round loss presser, but hoped she could think better after having some time.. well, no.

Not only that.. she is holding on to some average results and play at IW/Miami to defend these bad decisions.. and I fear if she does well enough at Wimbledon (a 3rd or 4th round), she will go on all year enduring bad result after bad result, just holding on to that and shrugging off losses to the first excuse she can find. Next year we have Olympics, and it would be a real pity if she struggles to qualify.

Ivanovic2008
Jun 3rd, 2011, 03:38 AM
Interview is ugly/fugly

gaviotabr
Jun 7th, 2011, 01:35 PM
This is actually encouraging.. did she finally realize Cahill has Murray as a priority and no time for her?

Ivanovic seeks coach to change fortunes
By Richard Eaton, Associated PressPosted 4m ago

BIRMINGHAM, England — Former No. 1 Ana Ivanovic is seeking the coach who will help one of the most naturally talented players on the circuit return to the top.

Ever since the 6-foot-1 (1.86-meter) Serb with the intimidating serve and lethal forehand won the French Open three years ago, she has underwhelmed on tour. It took Ivanovic until last year to win another title — she picked up two — but she has yet to get back even to the quarterfinals of another Grand Slam. She was ousted in the first round of the recent French Open.
Her lack of confidence has at times been both painful and very public.
She has watched the long sequence of success of compatriot and friend, Novak Djokovic, this year, and says she has often thought "could I borrow just a bit of your confidence?"
Injuries have exacerbated her problems. Even this year, while withdrawing from events citing an abdominal strain, fatigue and a wrist injury, she has maintained a top-20 ranking. But the physical and psychological issues might be alleviated by the insight, structure, and organization provided by a top-class coach.
Ivanovic traveled with only a sparring partner for most of this past year, having parted suddenly with coach Antonio van Grichen, and she thinks the ensuing instability in her regimen and in her mind has affected her results.
"It's been a bit of a struggle and a little up and down — and that's been happening for the last couple of years in my career," the 23-year-old said sadly.
"I want something more stable. I want something more solid. I know it's not easy to find a good coach, but it's something I should consider again."
Ivanovic did noticeably better at big tour stops in Indian Wells and Miami in March when she had access to Darren Cahill's coaching through one of her sponsors, Adidas. She scored five wins, including one over Jelena Jankovic, a former world No. 1, and held five match points against Kim Clijsters, the U.S. Open champ.
"It made a difference getting proper interaction and guidance," said Ivanovic, who will not be able to receive regular coaching from the Australian because he's responsible for other players. So she is looking elsewhere.
"I have names of people I would like to talk to, but that's hard to do during competition," Ivanovic said. "Still, I'm thinking about it and talking to people about how to approach it."
She has a clear idea of the sort of coach she wants. "First I have to find a good one," Ivanovic said, hinting that this was not easy.
"Then, someone who will commit. And someone willing to travel. And someone with whom to get along, because you do spend a lot of time together.
"For a coach to be able to help you, they need to get to know you well. They need to see what's happening — that you are not in the mood to talk, or something like this. It is very hard to find the right person.
"And that is something I am wary about. I don't want these ups and downs any more. I need to have more structure and more stability, and someone strong enough to go through with it. Not something which is going to be short-lived again."
She's not likely to line up someone before Wimbledon in two weeks.
Meanwhile, her grass-court preparation will begin on Wednesday at the Aegon Classic against Anna Tatishvili from Georgia. On her first visit to Birmingham in seven years, she's seeded to reach the final.
"It's my first priority to play well and focus on what I have to do to," Ivanovic emphasized. "If I am able to do that, all this becomes a little bit secondary."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2011-06-07-1814944067_x.htm

gaviotabr
Jun 7th, 2011, 01:39 PM
But well.. the last sentence does give space to some doubt.. does she mean if she plays well, a coach is secondary? Because then she has a bit of the order wrong.. she will be able to do better once she has a good, strong team around her. At least she will be giving herself more of a chance to do so.

She is very demanding of a coach.. so I wonder how long she will take to get one.. find someone with all those characteristics.. I'm hoping she finds one before the USO... she could use a chance of saving the end of the year.

It is nice to hear how she wants stability. She really needs it.

Ivanovic2008
Jun 7th, 2011, 01:59 PM
It's still very encouraging...

gaviotabr
Jun 7th, 2011, 02:03 PM
It's still very encouraging...

It is indeed very encouraging. Let's hope Ana puts some action right next to these words.

Cajka
Jun 7th, 2011, 02:15 PM
I really don't believe that she didn't consider finding a full-time coach before. If she thinks that she's good on her own that pretty much means that she's brainless. And I don't think she's brainless. Confused and disappointed? Probably. It's not like "today I'm gonna find a coach, it's the first thing on my shopping list". Even shopping can be complicated :lol:, let alone finding a coach.

Those girls must be truly weird. Safina, Zvonareva, Jankovic, Anči... they all left some great coaches, those who help them improve a lot. Just unbelievable. But sometimes a good coach is not enough. Vaidisova and Rodriguez, for example. :lol:

gaviotabr
Jun 7th, 2011, 05:54 PM
Article about Ana's presser yesterday:

Ana Ivaovic making no predictions at AEGON Classic in Birmingham
by Brian Dick, Birmingham Mail
Jun 7 2011

ANA Ivanovic returned to Edgbaston Priory for the first time in seven years yesterday and refused to put any pressure on herself to lift her first ever grass court title.

The former world No.1, who is the second seed at the AEGON Classic, tomorrow faces Anna Tatishvili for a place in the third round after the Georgian beat British wild card Samantha Murray in straight sets.

Ivanovic, who is also playing doubles with Tamira Paszek this afternoon, will be a massive favourite, not least because of the 97 ranking places that separates the two players.

But that does not guarantee anything with the unpredictable Serb who will be helped neither by the wrist injury that hampered her preparation for last month’s French Open nor the suspicion she may never regain the form that brought her the Roland Garros title in 2008.

Ivanovic was dumped out of this year’s competition by unheralded Swede Johanna Larsson after losing 12 of 14 games from a set up.

That defeat made it a dozen straight Slams without reaching even a quarter-final for a player who once threatened to sweep all before her.

Such thoughts are a long way from her mind at the moment, however and having won just one of her four matches on clay this season, she arrives in Birmingham merely hopeful of improving on her last visit when as a 17-year-old she was beaten in two sets by Anca Barna on an outside court.

“I just hope I can get a few matches in and see how it goes for preparation for Wimbledon,” the 23-year-old said.

“Obviously I want to do well and want to stay here as long as possible but I don’t want to put too high expectations on myself. I want to slowly start to get back into it.”

Her fans might expect more, however. With only Kaia Kanepi ranked higher in the Edgbaston draw Ivanovic is predicted to reach Sunday’s final. Ivanovic denies that puts her under any more pressure. “It’s nice to be back and be in the mix. I haven’t had a bye in the first round for a very long time. It kind of feels good.

“There are good players and tough opponents here, I really want to put myself in the position to win a couple of matches and get it going.

“I like grass and I think it can really suit my game. I have an aggressive game, my serve is my big weapon and I am working very hard to get it back where it was.

“I think I can dominate a lot with my serve and first stroke.

“There’s still some work to be done but I think I can play well on the grass, I do volley well – once I come in. I am going to be playing doubles this week which will also help to get some matches.

“I got to the semi-finals at Wimbledon in 2007 and reached the Junior final in 2004 so I know I can play on grass and in the future I think I can really step up and get far in this tournament.” Whether she does that this year or not, remains to be seen.



Read More http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/other-sport/junior-sport/2011/06/07/ana-ivaovic-making-no-predictions-at-aegon-classic-in-birmingham-97319-28832197/#ixzz1Oc7gGzsr

In the future... the confidence now is down low.

gaviotabr
Jun 10th, 2011, 12:17 AM
From Forty Deuce:

June 09, 2011

Livin' On The Edge.


She hasn't been emo, per se. In fact, Ana's been charming as ever in her pressers, talking about books she's reading ("The Passage, by Justin Cronin. Have you read it?"), whether she'll have a new dance with Petko at Wimby, ("It's in her hands. She's the one making up these dance moves.... Our tactics are very simple. We just gossip on the chair.”), and whether they'll do their Miami-wagers on the hallowed grounds of SW19, (“I don't know, I think we're going to keep it at bay a little because I lost all my money. [laughs]").

But there have been moments, when she's actually talked about her tennis, where things got a bit serious. I asked her about how she's feeling physically given all the injury struggles this year. She didn't exactly say "Oh, it's all good. I'm fine now.":

“It's still a work in process. I'm doing a lot of work on a daily basis and just trying to first of all just get back to a healthy state so I can load it more. Because at the moment it's very fragile. It's on the edge. Every time there is some niggles and pains and that's something I want to get rid of so I can actually work hard and get to the level I want to be. I'm just trying to work my way around it and through it and some things just take time. But it's something I'm working hard at.”

And on whether her run at Birmingham (she's into the quarterfinals) gives her confidence for Wimbledon:

“To be honest, after losing in the first round of the last couple of Grand Slams it's hard to set goals for Wimbledon. To actually put myself in a position to play a few more matches and to get that competition going is gonna be huge, you know? You never know what can happen.”
I think I kinda miss delusional Ana. This one knows too much.

Posted by C Note on June 09, 2011

http://cowbell.typepad.com/forty_deuce/2011/06/livin-on-the-edge.html

Even though Ana's quotes aren't exactly positive, I feel encouraged by her going for a real, down to earth approach. I always feel like Ana does better when she has both of her feet on the ground and is able to see things clearly.

Ana really needs to sort her body out though. I would be doing some tests on vitamin and hormone levels, besides doing a whole check up on her immune system. I don't understand what she did in the off season that got her body so fragile. Even the loss of weight can't explain all these niggles.

18majors
Jun 10th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Stay healthy, Ana!

gaviotabr
Jun 14th, 2011, 04:17 PM
A few quotes from Ana after beating Goerges:

In other matches, Ana Ivanovic advanced to a second-round meeting with Venus Williams with a 6-4, 6-3 win over Julia Goerges of Germany.

The former No. 1-ranked Serb won her last two events of 2010, but she has struggled and lost in the first round in four of her 10 tournaments this season. Her semifinal last week in Birmingham was her first of the year.

"I don't expect myself to go out there and play great every match," Ivanovic said. "I just expect myself to work hard. But it's hard. I do have to think about going back to basics for a moment and trying to get the practice in, trying to stay healthy and trying to stay basically on top of small things."

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/06/14/sports-ten-eastbourne_8515729.html

I don't understand... you expect yourself to work hard, but then give up on matches if they reach a 3rd set? :scratch:

Unseeded Ivanovic took a small step in the rehabilitation of her inconsistent recent game, with her victory over Goerges.
Ivanovic has been through several coaches and consultants in recent seasons as the number 18 fights to settle and finally start improving her ranking. Currently without a coach, she is sharing the time of adidas' Darren Cahill along with the rest of the marque's top players including coach-less Andy Murray.
"It's been good times and it's been not too good times in the past year," said the Serb. "I did play really well at the end of last season (to win a year-end event in Bali). Also some bits and pieces this year.
"But in the last few weeks I'm starting to gain more confidence again. I have things that I have to work on and work on while the attitude during matches. It's been a good last couple of weeks for me in that sense."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g2xxgavxZNwjKIm6eS8DZY5NNTZA?docId=CNG.16d16 711219ea0f22c997464efa3cb05.191

Please Ana, keep looking for a real coach. I fear with these sort of decent results she will go back to being content with Murray's leftovers. :o

gaviotabr
Jun 17th, 2011, 12:42 AM
Ana's presser after Eastbourne 1st round:

EASTBOURNE, ENGLAND

A. IVANOVIC/J. Goerges
6-4, 6-3


THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. You had to fight pretty hard for that, didn't you?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, it was tough match. I think we were both a little bit nervous. It was a strange match, a lot of mishits and a lot of breaks, as well, which is unusual for grass.
But I felt like very important points I played really well and was aggressive. So I'm very happy to have win. She's been playing pretty good lately.

Q. How did you feel about your serve? You got less than half of your first serves in, but you only lost six points on your first serve.
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, you know, like I was saying before: It's a process. I have to work on it, and I have to accept it the way it is at the moment. You know, I have few things in mind that I try to keep and try to do it when I'm on the court.
But my serve can definitely be and is a strength. When I get the right timing on it, I mean, it goes really fast, too.
It's something I want to keep on working. You know, hopefully soon it will be a big weapon.

Q. I think it's fair to say that most of us don't really know what to expect each time you go out to play a match right now. You've had some up-and-down results this year. What are your expectations when you go out there?
ANA IVANOVIC: Um, you know, at the moment I really try to think of the things that I try to achieve in my game. You know, it's sort of more technical things. It's a process.
You know, I don't expect myself to go out there and, you know, play great every match. I just expect myself to work hard. There are things I work hard on in practice and try to maintain that level and then hopefully get more consistency and then, you know, build on that.
But, you know, it's hard. But I do have to think about, you know, going back to basics for a moment, you know, and trying to get the practice in, trying to stay healthy and trying to stay basically on top of small things.
It's working well and I accept it's a process, so it makes it a lot easier. I don't put high expectations on myself, but still I know that when it takes I can play well.

Q. Are you happier with the progress you've made in the past year in tennis on the different surfaces?
ANA IVANOVIC: It's been good times, and it's been not too good times in the past year, as well. You know, I did play really well at the end of last season, and then, you know, some bits and pieces this year. But now, last few weeks I feel also I'm starting to gain more confidence again, you know, winning few matches.
But now I see more clearly how I have to, you know, go about it and, you know, things that I have to work on and work on while playing matches, as well, the attitude you have to have. You know, it's been good last couple of weeks for me in that sense.

Q. What is going on coaching-wise at the moment? You're still using the adidas team, are you?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yes. And Darren, he's in London, so I'm going to see him there hopefully end of the week.

Q. What about down here?
ANA IVANOVIC: I have my sparring partner here.

Q. Are you anywhere closer to getting anyone permanently?
ANA IVANOVIC: You know, not yet. And this is tough time, because the Grand Slam is just around the corner. You just want to focus on few things, you know, that I have been working on, and now I'm playing a lot more matches, so, you know, that's my preoccupation.

FastScripts Transcript by ASAP Sports

http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=72002

I knew I had seen very little actual certainty in how Ana was approaching the getting another coach thing. She is just trying to find a way to not get anyone. :o

I wish she didn't resort to Darren at Wimbledon. Ana alone is better than having any sort of contact with APDP. :o But the way she is talking about him, she is looking for any excuse to keep on APDP. She can't complain if she barely gets past the 2nd round at tournaments, if this is what she is choosing to do.

gaviotabr
Jun 19th, 2011, 12:06 PM
New interview, thanks to bokash:

interview
Homecoming:
Will Ana take centre court?

By Altamish Jiwa

In an exclusive interview with ‘The News on Sunday’, former women’s world No 1 Ana Ivanovic speaks of her experience at the most prestigious Grand Slam of the year.

The Serbian glamour girl talks about her love of grass, shopping sprees in London and spending quality time with her family. The 24-year-old recounts the trials and tribulations she underwent after reaching the summit of the sport. Armed with a renewed belief in her ability, the once darling of centre court is all set to take Wimbledon by storm.

The News on Sunday: How, in your opinion, is Wimbledon different from the rest of the Grand Slams?

Ana Ivanovic: The tradition is what appeals the most. The atmosphere is really special -- you can feel the history of the tournament as soon as you arrive in London. I think most of the players feel that. For many players it is the one they watched most of all when they were kids, and the one we dreamed of winning even more than the others.

TNS: How much are you looking forward to the grass court season, especially playing at Wimbledon?

AI: I’m enjoying it so far. I didn’t have very high expectations going into Birmingham, considering how few matches I had played recently, and my disappointing performance at the French Open. But I had some good victories that boosted my confidence. Wimbledon is always a lot of fun and I look forward to it from the moment I arrive in England. It’s a special tournament for so many reasons. Off the court, it’s great because I can live in a house with my whole family for a week or two -- this is the only tournament where I do that.

TNS: Share with us some special memory or an incident which you most cherish from the SW19 event?

AI: It’s got to be my match against Vaidisova in 2007. I saved three match points in the quarter-finals. I remember there was a delay for rain and it was a very tough, even match. She was playing very well and actually I just had to hang in there. I won the last four games and it is a great memory for me.

TNS: What does Ana Ivanovic do in London during Wimbledon when she is not playing on court or having practice sessions?

AI: I mostly relax at home with my family. Our house is near the club. That may sound boring, but I don’t see them very often so we enjoy doing regular family stuff like eating dinner together. We also go out to restaurants and if there is time I enjoy going shopping in central London, especially at Old Bond Street. But that never happens during the tournament, because there is no time -- I do that before or afterwards only.

TNS: You lost in the opening round of the French Open where you were champion back in 2008. Besides training, what does it take for a champion to rise again from a defeat and prepare for the next big task ahead?

AI: It requires quite a bit of mental strength. It is tough to ‘forget’ that you were once the champion and No 1, but you have to try not to think about that and instead focus on the exact things that got you there in the first place. In general, I can say that some defeats hurt more than others, and take more time to get over. But the great thing about tennis is that there is always a tournament in the next week or so, so there is always an opportunity to put things right.

TNS: Every time you have stepped on to the court since not being number one, have you played to prove to yourself that you can regain that spot? Or have you played to prove yourself to people especially your critics. Either way how much pressure does that put on you?

AI: I haven’t thought too much about critics -- I prefer to stay positive and I don’t take an interest in that stuff. No one puts more pressure on themselves than me, and that’s enough pressure without taking it from others! But I have to try and improve in this area by relaxing more and trying to have fun on the court, instead of thinking too much about results.

TNS: In your post match press conferences you have talked about losing confidence during matches despite being in comfortable winning positions. Why does such a situation occur? What are you doing to ensure that such lapses do not occur in the future?

AI: I think I’ve lost focus a few times, which was probably a result of not really being ‘match tough’, as they say. I’ve not been consistent enough, and I’ve struggled with a few injuries, so I’ve not been in my best rhythm -- when I was at the top I was playing a lot more matches every week so I was kind of in the zone.

TNS: You are one of the few players who has seen it all... from being at the top of your game in 2008 and then crashing out of the top fifty in world rankings. Share with us your journey so far and the advice you would give your fans and to people in general who think of quitting when things are not going their way?

AI: Yes, I’ve already experienced a lot and I am still quite young! In order to come to the top you have to really believe in yourself. I don’t want to complain about things because I had a very happy childhood, but if you look at the facilities we had in Serbia, it wasn’t easy for us -- me, Novak, Jelena and the others. So we all were very strong and determined and through that we reached our goals. This same level of determination is very important in professional tennis too, because you will always experiences ups and downs in your career.



The writer works for Geo TV

majorjiwa@gmail.com

http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/jun2011-weekly/nos-19-06-2011/spo.htm#4

gaviotabr
Jun 19th, 2011, 12:09 PM
TNS: Every time you have stepped on to the court since not being number one, have you played to prove to yourself that you can regain that spot? Or have you played to prove yourself to people especially your critics. Either way how much pressure does that put on you?

AI: I haven’t thought too much about critics -- I prefer to stay positive and I don’t take an interest in that stuff. No one puts more pressure on themselves than me, and that’s enough pressure without taking it from others! But I have to try and improve in this area by relaxing more and trying to have fun on the court, instead of thinking too much about results.

Critics can actually provide a great reason for motivation. Proving people wrong can be used to ones benefit. Ana's approach is too bland, and it leads to her ending up giving up on matches. :o

TNS: In your post match press conferences you have talked about losing confidence during matches despite being in comfortable winning positions. Why does such a situation occur? What are you doing to ensure that such lapses do not occur in the future?

AI: I think I’ve lost focus a few times, which was probably a result of not really being ‘match tough’, as they say. I’ve not been consistent enough, and I’ve struggled with a few injuries, so I’ve not been in my best rhythm -- when I was at the top I was playing a lot more matches every week so I was kind of in the zone.

:facepalm:

Does she realize she was playing more matches because she wasn't losing 1st rounds choking left and right? She isn't doing a think to fix what sets her back the most. It's what I'm most disappointed about. Her attitude and approach to tennis are awful.. and she refuses to get any help for her mental game. She really can't complain if she loses.. she isn't doing anything to avoid it. :o

gaviotabr
Jun 19th, 2011, 01:19 PM
There is an interview with Ana on a turkish newspaper, but google translation makes no sense whatsoever of it. If anyone can translate, it would be much appreciated.

Hem güzel hem de komik tenisçi!Dünyanın en önemli kadınlar tenis organizasyonu olan WTA 3 yıl boyunca Türkiye’de düzenlenecek. Bu vesileyle tenisçi Ana Ivanovic’le Londra’da konuştuk19/06/11 14:25

Boyu 1.87! Yoksa ben cüce değilim fotoğraflar yanıltmasın. Çok ince değil ama vücudu çok güzel. Tabii Serena Williams ve Anastasia’nın yanında sıfır değil eksi beden o ayrı.

Daha 24 yaşında ve basın danışmanlarının kurallarından o kadar bunalmış ki, camdan atlayıp kaçacak gibi duruyor. Pembe hastası... Maçlarda sürekli Adidas’ın pembe ürünlerini tüketen Ana, Londra’daki Pre-Wimbledon partisine de pespembe geliyor. Sorularımı da toz pembe dünyasından yanıtlıyor.

-Londra’dayız ama bu yıl Wimbledon açılış partisinin konsepti İstanbul. O yüzden ben size “Hoşgeldiniz” diyorum.
-Hoşbulduk. Umarım ilk 8’e kalırım da Boğaz’da devam eder partiler. Ben geceleri çok çıkmıyorum o yüzden bana da değişiklik oluyor. Bu arada İstanbul’u acayip merak ediyorum. Daha önce bir kere geldim o da bağlantı uçuşu için.

-Türkiye’de yaşayan çok güzel Sırp kadınlar var ama çoğu sarışın.
Benim gibisi de çok var Sırbistan’da ama sarışınlar her zaman dikkat çeker.

-Dikkat çekmeyle ilgili bir sıkıntınız olacağını sanmıyorum! Ama siz melez gibisiniz, ten renginiz koyu, gözleriniz çekik. Ailenizde var mı karışıklık?
-Hayır annem Karadağlı babam Sırp ama ona pek karışım denemez.

-2007’de tahtını ciddi şekilde salladığınız düşünülen 2004 Wimbledon şampiyonu Rus tenisçi Maria Sharapova’yı sahadan sildiniz. 2008’de Fransa Açık Şampiyonu oldunuz, sonra Dünya 188’inci sine yenilerek ikinci turda şampiyonaya veda eden ilk dünya şampiyonu unvanını kazandınız. Nasıl oluyor bu?
-Sakatlığım bir türlü geçmemişti ve o maçtan 10 dakika önce bileğimi zorladım. Sporda böyle şeyler oluyor. Önemli olan yeniden eski sağlıklı günlerime dönebilmem, elimden geleni de yapıyorum bunun için.

-Şu an bileğiniz nasıl?
-Arada ağrıyor, daha zamana ihtiyacı var ama ben de çok çaba gösteriyorum.

-Yine pembeler içindesiniz. Söylemek zorundayım Türk erkekleri pembeyi size inanılmaz yakıştırıyor.
-Pembe feminen, göz alıcı ve mutluluk verici bir renk. Artık benimle özdeşleşmeye başladı. Vazgeçemiyorum.

-Maç sırasında bazen çok sert bakıyorsunuz sonra birden gülümsemeye başlıyorsunuz. Gidişata göre bir oyun mu bu?
-İstesem de ciddi durmayı beceremem ki ben! Öyle gözüktüysem ne mutlu bana.

-Haksızlık etmeyin kendinize. Geçen sene rakibiniz tam servis atacakken koşa koşa tuvalete gidip insanları güldüren siz degil miydiniz?
-Ya evet öyle bir sey olmuştu değil mi? Ne yapayım dayanamadım.

-Yugoslavya’da çıkan iç savaş sırasında boş havuzların içine girip tenis oynarmışsınız.
-Evet saatlerce çıkmazdım oradan. Her yer yıkık dökük başka bir şansınız yok, kötü günlerdi. Annem bir kere bile “Kızım orada ne yapıyorsun” demedi. O günler olmasaydı şu an burada olmayacaktım. Şükranla anıyorum. Tenise başladığımda 5 yaşındaydım. Savaş zamanı 7-8 yaşlarında antrenmanları bırakmamak için bu yolu buldum.

-Arama motoruna adınızı yazdığımızda en az başarılarınız kadar güzelliğiniz de yer alıyor. Sharapova’nın tahtını salladığınız düşünülüyor.
-Dürüst olmak gerekirse her kadın güzel olmayı, güzelse de iltifat almayı sever. Ben de seviyorum. Ama tenisi de unutmasınlar lütfen, o konuda da iltifat almak isterim.

ŞU ANDA YALNIZIM AMA EVLENMEK DE İSTİYORUM

-Sevgiliniz var mı?
-Şu anda yalnızım.

-Golf oyuncusu gitti mi?
-Evet gitti... Ama evlenmek istiyorum bir ara.

-Eyvah o zaman. 15-20 Ekim arası maçlara gelecek erkek seyirci sayısını düşünmek bile istemiyorum.
-Gelsinler tabii...

HTPAZAR/ Nazenin TOKUŞOĞLU

http://www.htspor.com/diger/haber/641115-hem-guzel-hem-de-komik-tenisci

This is Ana with the reporter who conducted the interview at the Wimbledon players party:

http://yfrog.com/z/h3nlqqycj

Nazenint Nazenin Tokuşoğlu
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Ana Ivanovic roportajim htspor.com/diger/haber/64… yfrog.com/h3nlqqycj
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soul
Jun 19th, 2011, 04:03 PM
There is an interview with Ana on a turkish newspaper, but google translation makes no sense whatsoever of it. If anyone can translate, it would be much appreciated.



http://www.htspor.com/diger/haber/641115-hem-guzel-hem-de-komik-tenisci

This is Ana with the reporter who conducted the interview at the Wimbledon players party:

http://yfrog.com/z/h3nlqqycj

There is nothing strange.Our reporter tells about how tall and fuuny and sweet she is. She wants to be in İstanbul at the end of the season championship.She asks how she won against Sharapova in 2007 and her ex-Adam Scott. There is nothin any new

soul
Jun 19th, 2011, 04:05 PM
I just made a brief summary but if u wany I would love to make the detailed one

gaviotabr
Jun 19th, 2011, 04:35 PM
I just made a brief summary but if u wany I would love to make the detailed one

Yes, it would be really nice to have a full translation of the interview. :)

gloria7
Jun 19th, 2011, 05:26 PM
This coaching situation is sick. I decided not to expect anything from her until she finds a full-time coach. That would be the first sign that she takes her tennis and career seriously. Deep down she knows that working 30 minutes a day with Cahill does not mean anything and can't solve her problems. Cahill knows that too, and , at this point, he is the only man who can help Ana by telling her to move on and find a full-time coach. She would listen to him. For me ,the biggest enigma is why Cahill doesn't want to say that to her? Is it possible that Adidas would rather "destroy" Ana's career than "allow" her to work with someone else, outside APDP?

Ana has 3, maybe 4 years til the end of career and she should try to save her image and remaining 3-4 seasons. The problem is - she puts everything on coach. She has such a high standards for a coach. Like she don't want to find one. She believes that ,if she has best coach - she can be the best player again. Since the best coach (in Ana's opinion) is Cahill, and he can't be her full-time coach, - she wont be able to return to the top. Stupid logic.

She just does not want to give a chance to some other coach, outside APDP. If she manages to create a good and solid bond with some other coach - there comes Sven(at leat in the past),who keeps in touch with Ana, who calls her on the phone regularly, sends her messages, offers her assistance. He just wont let her "grow up" and be succesful on her own. Time goes by and she keeps talking ,promising new titles to her fans - "who're so nice to me, and i disappointed them"...do that for yourself, honey ,cuz i'm sick of reading these interviews, knowing that you can't back up your words with good results. Don't remember how it was back in '08, when you won GS title - do something now, create new memories.

soul
Jun 20th, 2011, 11:53 AM
Hem güzel hem de komik tenisçi!Dünyanın en önemli kadınlar tenis organizasyonu olan WTA 3 yıl boyunca Türkiye’de düzenlenecek. Bu vesileyle tenisçi Ana Ivanovic’le Londra’da konuştuk19/06/11 14:25

Boyu 1.87! Yoksa ben cüce değilim fotoğraflar yanıltmasın. Çok ince değil ama vücudu çok güzel. Tabii Serena Williams ve Anastasia’nın yanında sıfır değil eksi beden o ayrı.

Daha 24 yaşında ve basın danışmanlarının kurallarından o kadar bunalmış ki, camdan atlayıp kaçacak gibi duruyor. Pembe hastası... Maçlarda sürekli Adidas’ın pembe ürünlerini tüketen Ana, Londra’daki Pre-Wimbledon partisine de pespembe geliyor. Sorularımı da toz pembe dünyasından yanıtlıyor.

-Londra’dayız ama bu yıl Wimbledon açılış partisinin konsepti İstanbul. O yüzden ben size “Hoşgeldiniz” diyorum.
-Hoşbulduk. Umarım ilk 8’e kalırım da Boğaz’da devam eder partiler. Ben geceleri çok çıkmıyorum o yüzden bana da değişiklik oluyor. Bu arada İstanbul’u acayip merak ediyorum. Daha önce bir kere geldim o da bağlantı uçuşu için.

-Türkiye’de yaşayan çok güzel Sırp kadınlar var ama çoğu sarışın.
Benim gibisi de çok var Sırbistan’da ama sarışınlar her zaman dikkat çeker.

-Dikkat çekmeyle ilgili bir sıkıntınız olacağını sanmıyorum! Ama siz melez gibisiniz, ten renginiz koyu, gözleriniz çekik. Ailenizde var mı karışıklık?
-Hayır annem Karadağlı babam Sırp ama ona pek karışım denemez.

-2007’de tahtını ciddi şekilde salladığınız düşünülen 2004 Wimbledon şampiyonu Rus tenisçi Maria Sharapova’yı sahadan sildiniz. 2008’de Fransa Açık Şampiyonu oldunuz, sonra Dünya 188’inci sine yenilerek ikinci turda şampiyonaya veda eden ilk dünya şampiyonu unvanını kazandınız. Nasıl oluyor bu?
-Sakatlığım bir türlü geçmemişti ve o maçtan 10 dakika önce bileğimi zorladım. Sporda böyle şeyler oluyor. Önemli olan yeniden eski sağlıklı günlerime dönebilmem, elimden geleni de yapıyorum bunun için.

-Şu an bileğiniz nasıl?
-Arada ağrıyor, daha zamana ihtiyacı var ama ben de çok çaba gösteriyorum.

-Yine pembeler içindesiniz. Söylemek zorundayım Türk erkekleri pembeyi size inanılmaz yakıştırıyor.
-Pembe feminen, göz alıcı ve mutluluk verici bir renk. Artık benimle özdeşleşmeye başladı. Vazgeçemiyorum.

-Maç sırasında bazen çok sert bakıyorsunuz sonra birden gülümsemeye başlıyorsunuz. Gidişata göre bir oyun mu bu?
-İstesem de ciddi durmayı beceremem ki ben! Öyle gözüktüysem ne mutlu bana.

-Haksızlık etmeyin kendinize. Geçen sene rakibiniz tam servis atacakken koşa koşa tuvalete gidip insanları güldüren siz degil miydiniz?
-Ya evet öyle bir sey olmuştu değil mi? Ne yapayım dayanamadım.

-Yugoslavya’da çıkan iç savaş sırasında boş havuzların içine girip tenis oynarmışsınız.
-Evet saatlerce çıkmazdım oradan. Her yer yıkık dökük başka bir şansınız yok, kötü günlerdi. Annem bir kere bile “Kızım orada ne yapıyorsun” demedi. O günler olmasaydı şu an burada olmayacaktım. Şükranla anıyorum. Tenise başladığımda 5 yaşındaydım. Savaş zamanı 7-8 yaşlarında antrenmanları bırakmamak için bu yolu buldum.

-Arama motoruna adınızı yazdığımızda en az başarılarınız kadar güzelliğiniz de yer alıyor. Sharapova’nın tahtını salladığınız düşünülüyor.
-Dürüst olmak gerekirse her kadın güzel olmayı, güzelse de iltifat almayı sever. Ben de seviyorum. Ama tenisi de unutmasınlar lütfen, o konuda da iltifat almak isterim.

ŞU ANDA YALNIZIM AMA EVLENMEK DE İSTİYORUM

-Sevgiliniz var mı?
-Şu anda yalnızım.

-Golf oyuncusu gitti mi?
-Evet gitti... Ama evlenmek istiyorum bir ara.

-Eyvah o zaman. 15-20 Ekim arası maçlara gelecek erkek seyirci sayısını düşünmek bile istemiyorum.
-Gelsinler tabii...

HTPAZAR/ Nazenin TOKUŞOĞLU

She is both beatiful and funny.The most presstigious WTA Season Ending Championship willl be held in İstanbul for the netxt three years so we have the chance of talking with Ana Ivanovic in London
She is 1.85 cm. Do photos not false you,Im not a pigmnent.She is not so skinny but her body is awesome.But she is skinny even zero skinny when she is compared to Serena and Anastassia.
She is only 23 but she so bored of press consultant rules that she seem to run away from a window.Her favorite colour is pink and she has worn pink ADIDAS dress so far;she has come to pre-Wimbledon party in pink too and now she is answeriig our questıons from her pink world
Q: We are in London now but the concept is İstanbul because of this reason I say to you HOŞGELDİNİZ.
A: You are welcome.I hope I manage to stay top 8 and Have the chance of participating to event.I really wonder Boshporus and I hope Parties go on there.I hardly go out at nights and this kind of events gave me the chance of being out.I do really wonder İstanbul,I have been there once but it was a transit flight
Q:There are alot of Serbian women in turkey but they are all blond
A: There are alot of like me but blondies get the attraction
Q:You will not have any problem of gettin attraction what is your family root?
A:My mother is from Montegro and my father is from Serbia
Q:In 2007 you won against Sharapova whom everybody thought that you would destroy her kingdom ,in2008 you won French open and then you lost to number 188. How does it happen?
A: My injury hadnt been healed yet at that time and ten minutes before that match I forced my injury.These kind of things happen in sports.I mtrying my best to get heal and to be fit.
Q:How is your injury now?
A: It is still painful but Im trying my best;I m doing whatever is needed.
Q:You are again in pink.I have to congess that Turkish men suits you pink very much indeed.
A:It is very feminen.It suits me.It is sparkling.I cant give up it
Q:Sometimes you look very serious and all of a sudden you start smiling.Does it change accordind to how the match goes on
A:I cant manage to be serious if I would like to but if I managed this Im happy then
Q:Be fair to yourself Last year while your opponent was serving you ran into WC and everybody laughed
A:What could I do? I couldnot stand and ran.
Q:During the war time you practies in empty pools.
A: Yes,I did play in the empty pools and even once my mum didnot tell me to go out from there.I started playing at the age of five.If I hanot played in that empty pools I wouldnot have been here wehere Im now.I appreciate those days.
it is told that you are a bigthraet of Sharapova's kingdom
A: To be honest every women like to get compliments.I do like also but tennis is my priority.I would like to be talked about my tennis first.
Q: Have you got a boy friend?
A:Im alone at the moment
Q:Golfer boyfriend is over?
A:Yes. But I would like to marry sometime
Q:The I dont want to think about the number of Turkish men spectators coming to the tournamnet between 15-20 October.
A:Sure they wouıld come

P.S. I did not like the questions;reporter is not aware of her current situtaion.She could have asked many tennis questions instead comparing her with Sharapova.

gaviotabr
Jun 20th, 2011, 11:55 AM
This coaching situation is sick. I decided not to expect anything from her until she finds a full-time coach. That would be the first sign that she takes her tennis and career seriously. Deep down she knows that working 30 minutes a day with Cahill does not mean anything and can't solve her problems. Cahill knows that too, and , at this point, he is the only man who can help Ana by telling her to move on and find a full-time coach. She would listen to him. For me ,the biggest enigma is why Cahill doesn't want to say that to her? Is it possible that Adidas would rather "destroy" Ana's career than "allow" her to work with someone else, outside APDP?

Ana has 3, maybe 4 years til the end of career and she should try to save her image and remaining 3-4 seasons. The problem is - she puts everything on coach. She has such a high standards for a coach. Like she don't want to find one. She believes that ,if she has best coach - she can be the best player again. Since the best coach (in Ana's opinion) is Cahill, and he can't be her full-time coach, - she wont be able to return to the top. Stupid logic.

She just does not want to give a chance to some other coach, outside APDP. If she manages to create a good and solid bond with some other coach - there comes Sven(at leat in the past),who keeps in touch with Ana, who calls her on the phone regularly, sends her messages, offers her assistance. He just wont let her "grow up" and be succesful on her own. Time goes by and she keeps talking ,promising new titles to her fans - "who're so nice to me, and i disappointed them"...do that for yourself, honey ,cuz i'm sick of reading these interviews, knowing that you can't back up your words with good results. Don't remember how it was back in '08, when you won GS title - do something now, create new memories.

I agree with you.

About APDP. Darren couldn't care less about Ana. APDP already has Caro and Murray as priorities, so it's important that they are successful. You humanly can't make other players successful without giving them atention, so other players on the programme won't be successful. But that doesn't matter to the APDP. They need to have other players on the programme to make sure the programme is big enough to be considered relevant in the success of their priority players. They want a big programme. Cahill should tell her to get a coach, but he couldn't care less about her. Adidas already has Ana for a life time, and they are getting their use of her by enhacing the profile of their develpment programme. Anything else is just a bonus. It should be up to Ana to see they are not helping her.. they don't have time for her... they are not paying atention to her and she will not get anything good out of it. Somehow she is blind enough that she doesn't see such an obvious thing. Maybe it's just that she doesn't really WANT a coach, someone on her back telling her how wrong her approach to tennis is, and who pays enough atention to her to clearly see how much work she has to do on her mental game. She clearly doesn't really WANT any of that.. she is just hoping good things will suddenly fall from the sky. Deep down she knows it won't though.. but I'm sure she will be looking at any excuse she can find to not get a coach. A meaningless semi final in a MM already got her to change her speech from looking for a coach to give her structure to talking a lot to Darren to see how they will work it out. :facepalm: That's because she doesn't really want a coach, she was just saying it in light of the worst first 6 months of a year of her career. Ana wants things to happen to her, but she is just not willing to get out of her comfort zone to make them happen.

gaviotabr
Jun 20th, 2011, 11:57 AM
Hem güzel hem de komik tenisçi!Dünyanın en önemli kadınlar tenis organizasyonu olan WTA 3 yıl boyunca Türkiye’de düzenlenecek. Bu vesileyle tenisçi Ana Ivanovic’le Londra’da konuştuk19/06/11 14:25

Boyu 1.87! Yoksa ben cüce değilim fotoğraflar yanıltmasın. Çok ince değil ama vücudu çok güzel. Tabii Serena Williams ve Anastasia’nın yanında sıfır değil eksi beden o ayrı.

Daha 24 yaşında ve basın danışmanlarının kurallarından o kadar bunalmış ki, camdan atlayıp kaçacak gibi duruyor. Pembe hastası... Maçlarda sürekli Adidas’ın pembe ürünlerini tüketen Ana, Londra’daki Pre-Wimbledon partisine de pespembe geliyor. Sorularımı da toz pembe dünyasından yanıtlıyor.

-Londra’dayız ama bu yıl Wimbledon açılış partisinin konsepti İstanbul. O yüzden ben size “Hoşgeldiniz” diyorum.
-Hoşbulduk. Umarım ilk 8’e kalırım da Boğaz’da devam eder partiler. Ben geceleri çok çıkmıyorum o yüzden bana da değişiklik oluyor. Bu arada İstanbul’u acayip merak ediyorum. Daha önce bir kere geldim o da bağlantı uçuşu için.

-Türkiye’de yaşayan çok güzel Sırp kadınlar var ama çoğu sarışın.
Benim gibisi de çok var Sırbistan’da ama sarışınlar her zaman dikkat çeker.

-Dikkat çekmeyle ilgili bir sıkıntınız olacağını sanmıyorum! Ama siz melez gibisiniz, ten renginiz koyu, gözleriniz çekik. Ailenizde var mı karışıklık?
-Hayır annem Karadağlı babam Sırp ama ona pek karışım denemez.

-2007’de tahtını ciddi şekilde salladığınız düşünülen 2004 Wimbledon şampiyonu Rus tenisçi Maria Sharapova’yı sahadan sildiniz. 2008’de Fransa Açık Şampiyonu oldunuz, sonra Dünya 188’inci sine yenilerek ikinci turda şampiyonaya veda eden ilk dünya şampiyonu unvanını kazandınız. Nasıl oluyor bu?
-Sakatlığım bir türlü geçmemişti ve o maçtan 10 dakika önce bileğimi zorladım. Sporda böyle şeyler oluyor. Önemli olan yeniden eski sağlıklı günlerime dönebilmem, elimden geleni de yapıyorum bunun için.

-Şu an bileğiniz nasıl?
-Arada ağrıyor, daha zamana ihtiyacı var ama ben de çok çaba gösteriyorum.

-Yine pembeler içindesiniz. Söylemek zorundayım Türk erkekleri pembeyi size inanılmaz yakıştırıyor.
-Pembe feminen, göz alıcı ve mutluluk verici bir renk. Artık benimle özdeşleşmeye başladı. Vazgeçemiyorum.

-Maç sırasında bazen çok sert bakıyorsunuz sonra birden gülümsemeye başlıyorsunuz. Gidişata göre bir oyun mu bu?
-İstesem de ciddi durmayı beceremem ki ben! Öyle gözüktüysem ne mutlu bana.

-Haksızlık etmeyin kendinize. Geçen sene rakibiniz tam servis atacakken koşa koşa tuvalete gidip insanları güldüren siz degil miydiniz?
-Ya evet öyle bir sey olmuştu değil mi? Ne yapayım dayanamadım.

-Yugoslavya’da çıkan iç savaş sırasında boş havuzların içine girip tenis oynarmışsınız.
-Evet saatlerce çıkmazdım oradan. Her yer yıkık dökük başka bir şansınız yok, kötü günlerdi. Annem bir kere bile “Kızım orada ne yapıyorsun” demedi. O günler olmasaydı şu an burada olmayacaktım. Şükranla anıyorum. Tenise başladığımda 5 yaşındaydım. Savaş zamanı 7-8 yaşlarında antrenmanları bırakmamak için bu yolu buldum.

-Arama motoruna adınızı yazdığımızda en az başarılarınız kadar güzelliğiniz de yer alıyor. Sharapova’nın tahtını salladığınız düşünülüyor.
-Dürüst olmak gerekirse her kadın güzel olmayı, güzelse de iltifat almayı sever. Ben de seviyorum. Ama tenisi de unutmasınlar lütfen, o konuda da iltifat almak isterim.

ŞU ANDA YALNIZIM AMA EVLENMEK DE İSTİYORUM

-Sevgiliniz var mı?
-Şu anda yalnızım.

-Golf oyuncusu gitti mi?
-Evet gitti... Ama evlenmek istiyorum bir ara.

-Eyvah o zaman. 15-20 Ekim arası maçlara gelecek erkek seyirci sayısını düşünmek bile istemiyorum.
-Gelsinler tabii...

HTPAZAR/ Nazenin TOKUŞOĞLU

She is both beatiful and funny.The most presstigious WTA Season Ending Championship willl be held in İstanbul for the netxt three years so we have the chance of talking with Ana Ivanovic in London
She is 1.85 cm. Do photos not false you,Im not a pigmnent.She is not so skinny but her body is awesome.But she is skinny even zero skinny when she is compared to Serena and Anastassia.
She is only 23 but she so bored of press consultant rules that she seem to run away from a window.Her favorite colour is pink and she has worn pink ADIDAS dress so far;she has come to pre-Wimbledon party in pink too and now she is answeriig our questıons from her pink world
Q: We are in London now but the concept is İstanbul because of this reason I say to you HOŞGELDİNİZ.
A: You are welcome.I hope I manage to stay top 8 and Have the chance of participating to event.I really wonder Boshporus and I hope Parties go on there.I hardly go out at nights and this kind of events gave me the chance of being out.I do really wonder İstanbul,I have been there once but it was a transit flight
Q:There are alot of Serbian women in turkey but they are all blond
A: There are alot of like me but blondies get the attraction
Q:You will not have any problem of gettin attraction what is your family root?
A:My mother is from Montegro and my father is from Serbia
Q:In 2007 you won against Sharapova whom everybody thought that you would destroy her kingdom ,in2008 you won French open and then you lost to number 188. How does it happen?
A: My injury hadnt been healed yet at that time and ten minutes before that match I forced my injury.These kind of things happen in sports.I mtrying my best to get heal and to be fit.
Q:How is your injury now?
A: It is still painful but Im trying my best;I m doing whatever is needed.
Q:You are again in pink.I have to congess that Turkish men suits you pink very much indeed.
A:It is very feminen.It suits me.It is sparkling.I cant give up it
Q:Sometimes you look very serious and all of a sudden you start smiling.Does it change accordind to how the match goes on
A:I cant manage to be serious if I would like to but if I managed this Im happy then
Q:Be fair to yourself Last year while your opponent was serving you ran into WC and everybody laughed
A:What could I do? I couldnot stand and ran.
Q:During the war time you practies in empty pools.
A: Yes,I did play in the empty pools and even once my mum didnot tell me to go out from there.I started playing at the age of five.If I hanot played in that empty pools I wouldnot have been here wehere Im now.I appreciate those days.
it is told that you are a bigthraet of Sharapova's kingdom
A: To be honest every women like to get compliments.I do like also but tennis is my priority.I would like to be talked about my tennis first.
Q: Have you got a boy friend?
A:Im alone at the moment
Q:Golfer boyfriend is over?
A:Yes. But I would like to marry sometime
Q:The I dont want to think about the number of Turkish men spectators coming to the tournamnet between 15-20 October.
A:Sure they wouıld come

P.S. I did not like the questions;reporter is not aware of her current situtaion.She could have asked many tennis questions instead comparing her with Sharapova.

Thanks SO much for the translation. Great work! :yeah:

Sean.
Jun 20th, 2011, 03:58 PM
Regarding Ana's coach, the trouble is she's too proud/stubborn and doesn't really trust anyone. As soon as things don't go her way or the coach says something she doesn't like he's gone.

She either needs to find a highly respected coach (i.e. Günthardt), or someone she respects/trust, and knows her game (i.e. get back with Groeneveld full-time). Because she doesn't give the new people a chance.

Another option is to get her mother involved, I have a feeling that Dragana's opinion might be is the only other one that Ana trusts. If something could be arranged that Dragana would have to agree before Ana fired the coach then they they could prevent the knee-jerk firings that have become common now.

I get the impression that Ana's finally starting to accept that something needs to be done.

Sean.
Jun 20th, 2011, 04:00 PM
On a brighter note, I still feel a couple of good wins would see Ana back on the right course. I lose count of the amount of times she's been in winning positions against top players and just choked it away. If she could close out some of those matches the confidence would could rushing back, because the tennis is definitely there.

gaviotabr
Jun 20th, 2011, 04:08 PM
Regarding Ana's coach, the trouble is she's too proud/stubborn and doesn't really trust anyone. As soon as things don't go her way or the coach says something she doesn't like he's gone.

She either needs to find a highly respected coach (i.e. Günthardt), or someone she respects/trust, and knows her game (i.e. get back with Groeneveld full-time). Because she doesn't give the new people a chance.

Another option is to get her mother involved, I have a feeling that Dragana's opinion might be is the only other one that Ana trusts. If something could be arranged that Dragana would have to agree before Ana fired the coach then they they could prevent the knee-jerk firings that have become common now.

I get the impression that Ana's finally starting to accept that something needs to be done.

Let's see. Sven or Cahill will never be full time coach to anyone. So people should put that option to rest. It just doesn't exist. They wouldn't even have Ana as a priority inside APDP.

Dragana doesn't travel with Ana anymore.. she must have a reason as well. And she doesn't want to get involved with tennis decisions. Never did. She is just not one of those tennis moms. So I doubt that would ever be an option either.

What makes you think Ana is starting to accept something needs to be done? She hasn't done 1 thing to change, and keeps saying adoring things of APDP, which doesn't help her one bit.

I do agree she doesn't give coaches a chance.. but I think this is as much about being sttuborn as it is about not really WANTING a coach on her back.

gaviotabr
Jun 20th, 2011, 04:11 PM
On a brighter note, I still feel a couple of good wins would see Ana back on the right course. I lose count of the amount of times she's been in winning positions against top players and just choked it away. If she could close out some of those matches the confidence would could rushing back, because the tennis is definitely there.

How many times has she won a few matches and then we would be all positive, and she would let it all go to waste in one split second, at the first adversity? I don't think this is about getting a few good wins under her belt. After she let the first adversity ruin all the good momentum of last year, got her into some of the worst mindset and results she has ever had, I don't get fooled by the idea a few good matches will lift her up.

She absoltely needs to work on her mentality. Real work. And she needs to want to work on it.

Sean.
Jun 20th, 2011, 04:16 PM
What makes you think Ana is starting to accept something needs to be done? She hasn't done 1 thing to change, and keeps saying adoring things of APDP, which doesn't help her one bit.

Not sure, it's just a feeling. Maybe just wishful thinking.

I do agree she doesn't give coaches a chance.. but I think this is as much about being sttuborn as it is about not really WANTING a coach on her back.

What Ana says in press interviews and what she actually thinks/feels are totally different. She knows how to handle the press and what they want to hear.

How many times has she won a few matches and then we would be all positive, and she would let it all go to waste in one split second, at the first adversity? I don't think this is about getting a few good wins under her belt. After she let the first adversity ruin all the good momentum of last year, got her into some of the worst mindset and results she has ever had, I don't get fooled by the idea a few good matches will lift her up.

She absoltely needs to work on her mentality. Real work. And she needs to want to work on it.

She needs confidence and belief at the end of the day. Miami 2011 could have been a turning point. She's scared of winning big matches, and has been for quite some time.

gaviotabr
Jun 20th, 2011, 04:35 PM
What Ana says in press interviews and what she actually thinks/feels are totally different. She knows how to handle the press and what they want to hear.

Saying she doesn't need anyone on her back is hardly good PR. It makes her look ridiculous more than anything. And look.. if she actually WANTED a coach, she would've got one long time ago. If she has spent such a long time without one, and keeps resisting to it, and fires each coach at the very first opportunity, it can only mean she doesn't really WANT one.

She needs confidence and belief at the end of the day. Miami 2011 could have been a turning point. She's scared of winning big matches, and has been for quite some time.

That's true. But it's not one match here and there that will turn things around. It won't happen by magic. She has won big matches in the past and then went back to sucking fast. I think the Miami match did affect her in a very negative way, but winning it wouldn't be the solution of all her problems. The real turning point will be when she actually sees things clearly and changes her whole approach to tennis.. if she ever decides to do that.

gaviotabr
Jun 21st, 2011, 01:25 AM
Good article. Thanks to bokash:

Lovable Headcases: Ana Ivanovic and the State of Women's Tennis
Wimbledon kicked off today. An examination of why there is no clear favorite on the women's side.

By Louisa ThomasPOSTED JUNE 20, 2011

Tennis requires the ability to calculate infinite variables while not thinking at all. The physics are gnarly but preconscious. Reflexes and muscles, eye sensors and veins, execute the work, and adjustments are made as a machine recalibrates according to conditions. A winning strategy requires immense brainpower, but its intelligence is narrow; it admits no ambivalence or second thoughts. What is called the ability to focus, the mind of a champion, is more like having no mind at all.

Winners are people who maintain this state of mindless genius all the time. Because they don't question whether certain things are possible, such as making a ball bend through the air at weird angles or reaching an out-of-reach shot, sometimes they manage to do them. Not just sometimes — the best do impossible things often. Watching winners can be wonderful for precisely this reason: their athletic virtuosity makes you ecstatic. You leap from your seat and raise your arms without even realizing it.

But not all tennis players — not even all great tennis players — are winners in this sense. Some of them manage to move around with uncomplicated singular grace some of the time, but are weighed down by the knowledge, however slight, that their blessing is borrowed. Occasionally, they begin to think and have second thoughts. They feel a little pain in their pinky and wonder how it might affect their grip. They notice that their opponent is really ripping that backhand, and they wonder about how to adjust, instead of just adjusting. They wonder why they're losing, or why they're winning. They talk to themselves instead of just grunting.

Of course, these players, these not-winners, still win a lot. Caroline Wozniacki, the top seed going into Wimbledon, typically plays some brilliant tennis, and then something happens. She starts to fuss with her hair. Her counterpunching loses its punch. It looks like her mind is wandering from the court, though my guess is that she's actually too aware. She'll probably win a major someday, but it won't be because she summons the ferocity of a champion. It will be because she figures out how to not lose.

Or take the no. 2 seed, Vera Zvonerava, last year's runner-up. In her first-round match today, against the young American Alison Riske, she won the first set 6-0 and was up a break in a second, and yet she nearly let the match slip away when Riske began to pick up the pace, attacking with her return. Zvonareva held it together, did not panic, and continued to play her game, but even near the end of the match she was muttering to herself.

Aside from the Williams sisters and Maria Sharapova, who plays like ferocity personified, there aren't any champions in women's tennis right now. Unlike the men's game, where the top four are so dominant, the women's field is wide open. When the top players step onto the court, these days there's usually a hint of doubt, the hanging question of whether they can manage not to lose it.


Ana Ivanovic is already moving when her opponent hits the ball. She tracks its speed and spin, processing innumerable factors as she sets up for a forehand. She coils her body and loads her weight onto her right leg, balanced as her racket loops back, her left hand open and outstretched, as if to say wait for it. Then, her racket head descends and her hips whip toward the net as her forearm pulls the racket forward, its face sweeping open and cleanly striking the ball just in front of her torso, her long body lifting away from the court as the racket completes its orbit, moving at terrific speed. When the ball is good, when it rips along the line and out of her opponent's reach, it is a shot of astonishing power and grace.1 When it is bad, it is baffling.2

More often than not these days, Ivanovic is baffling. Few top players unravel so spectacularly (in Miami a few months ago, she was up 5-1, 40-0 in the third set before losing to second-ranked Kim Clijsters) or lose in the first round of majors so persistently. Three years ago, she was the no. 1 player in the world. A year ago, she ranked 65th. Today, she's officially no. 18, but the rank is more or less meaningless. She is among the most talented players on tour, but one of her talents seems to be squandering her chances.

This volatility makes her interesting, at least to me. The unwinnable battle between psychology and skill is one of the most compelling reasons to watch tennis. A tennis court, after all, is the ideal arena for a clear look into the athlete mind. A player can't ask for help. She is alone inside the cage of those white lines. She can't even touch her opponent; she can only strike the ball. This compressed space makes for fascinating head cases. Ivanovic is special, even in the suddenly manic world of women's tennis. Watching her makes me want to pull out my own racket and smash it on her behalf.

When Ana Ivanovic looked like the future of women's tennis, the future looked good. It helped that Ivanovic is gorgeous, tall, and lithe, the kind of beauty that reduces a writer to clichés (tawny skin, sparkling eyes, high cheekbones) and spawns a thousand websites. Her life story is the stuff of a TV drama. Ivanovic was born in Belgrade, Serbia, in 1987. She began playing tennis at the age of five, learning on courts at the bottom of a drained swimming pool. During the NATO campaign in Belgrade in 1999, she practiced when the bombing paused. She was, suffice to say, a marketer's dream.

But she also had a game to match her marketability, and early on she dominated. Ivanovic went pro in 2003. In 2004, she jumped 608 spots in the rankings. By 2005 she was in the top 20. In 2007 she reached the final at Roland Garros and the semis at Wimbledon, and the following year she was a finalist at the Australian Open and won the French. At 20 years old, she was the top player in the world. She had a forehand that was compared to Steffi Graf's3 and a service game that was considered one of the best. Her height, 6-foot-1, allowed her to hit a flatter, more powerful serve than most, though she could also mask a range of spins. Her fastest delivery was clocked at 125 mph — a speed that would please many on the men's tour.

After she reached no. 1, the injuries began: thumb, ankle, thigh, stomach, left wrist. … More devastatingly, she suffered from the yips — a hitch in her confidence. Her ball toss wandered to her right, and she began to chase it. Her double faults mounted. Critics suggested that she was too focused on her photo shoots, that she lost too much weight, that she talked too much about her problems to the press. She started overthinking her mechanics during matches. She started overthinking her shots. She swung harder, she swung softer, she went down the line when she should have taken the percentage crosscourt shot. Sometimes, though, she'd step onto the court and demolish her opponent — even good ones. Last year she beat Patty Schnyder (6-1, 6-2), Marion Bartoli (6-2, 6-3), and Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova (6-0, 6-1), among others. The commentators would whistle and marvel and call her victory a turning point. But every turn seemed to route her right back into another setback.

Coaching has been an issue. Ivanovic has had five coaches in seven years (depending on how you count). When she describes to the press what she wants in a coach, she sounds like she's talking about a boyfriend or a psychologist. "First, I have to find a good one," Ivanovic said. "Then, someone who will commit. And someone willing to travel. And someone with whom to get along, because you do spend a lot of time together. For a coach to be able to help you, they need to get to know you well. They need to see what's happening — that you are not in the mood to talk, or something like this. It is very hard to find the right person."

In the meantime, her career continues to careen. Last month, Ivanovic made the semis of a Wimbledon tune-up in Birmingham, but failed to convert 18 break points in a loss to Daniela Hantuchova. In a second pre-Wimbledon tournament, a rusty Venus Williams demolished Ivanovic in just more than an hour.

"Sometimes it just becomes so technical that you forget what you're doing," Ivanovic said after parting ways with one coach. "If you start thinking about how you come down the stairs and think about how each muscle is working, you can't go down the stairs. Anyway, I'm a person who overthinks and overanalyzes everything, so if you give me one thought, it creates a lot more."

Louisa Thomas is the author of Conscience: Two Soldiers, Two
Pacifists, One Family — A Test of Will and Faith in World War I.

http://espn.go.com/espn/grantland/story/_/id/6681898/ana-ivanovic-state-women-tennis

18majors
Jun 21st, 2011, 04:21 AM
^Great read!

Cp6uja
Jun 21st, 2011, 11:29 PM
We are so blind when we not see whats Ana lose when won that RG 2008 and whats need more than anything for real high level comeback... but hers today's short message from hers facebook page finally opened my eyes
That was a very exciting evening, after a reaaalllly boring day! There was so much waiting around, and I wanted to kill Hewitt for not taking that set point in the third, but all’s well that ends well. It felt very, very good to finish before it got dark.ANA NEEDS HERS KILLER INSTINCT BACK!


thank you Lleyton for today :worship:

Cp6uja
Jun 22nd, 2011, 08:24 AM
Ivanovic - Oudin report from Wimbledon official site (http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/match_reports/2011-06-21/201106211308657852584.html)
by Kate Battersby

Ana Ivanovic made the simplest progress into the second round late in the evening with a thumping victory over Melanie Oudin. The number 18 seed required just 48 minutes for her 6-0, 6-1 win.

It was 8.25pm by the time this match, the fifth of the day on Court 12, began. On the longest day of the year, it nonetheless transpired there was ample time for a result. Ivanovic was transparently in the mood to win before the lengthening shadows engulfed the arena in twilight too dark for play to continue. Far from being troubled by the cool of the evening air, she appeared invigorated by it.

The first set must have been little more than a blur to 19-year-old Oudin. She delivered 90 per cent of her first serves in, yet won the point on barely a third of those occasions. Ivanovic was simply more inventive, delivering 12 outright winners to Oudin's meagre one. The American handed over set point in the most depressing way possible - via a double fault - and Ivanovic converted aggressively. The set was gone in 22 minutes.

It was a reminder that the 2007 Wimbledon semi-finalist knows her way around the courts of SW19. Perhaps she has had enough of first round defeats, with three of those to her name in her last four Grand Slam tournaments - not a proud record for a player who was ranked No.1 in the world just three years ago after her victory at Roland Garros. All this and she is still just 23.

But Oudin has had her moments, too, before this. On her unheralded debut as a 17-year-old with nothing to lose in 2009, she beat the 11th seed Agnieszka Radwanska, along with sixth seed (and former world No.1) Jelena Jankovic on her way to the last 16. She followed that with quarter-final at the US Open. Her race up the rankings stalled at 31 in April last year, but is now at 87. She is not in great form, having won one match in her nine played since Miami in March.

By the start of the second set, the illuminated scoreboard in the corner of the court was gleaming brightly in the gloaming. But the skies were clear of cloud and the light was still good enough for play. Ivanovic permitted Oudin to escape the embarrassment of the dreaded "double bagel" by granting her a game at the start of the second set. But loose play from the American gave the break for 1-3, and when the time came Ivanovic did what was needed on her first match point.

gaviotabr
Jun 23rd, 2011, 12:31 AM
Ana: work in progress, but results are already visible

June 22, 2011
Only 48 minutes had to be Ana Ivanovic to start winning Wimbledon. Well, that rate has contributed to the weak American, Melanie Oudin, but that does not mean to diminish the merits of Serb woman (6:1, 6:0).
Whenever such a good play Ana, the question poses itself - why not always? Why three years failing to repeat the quality that it has led to a number of Paris and the throne.
- I wish I could always play like that - now agrees 18th racket of the world it's time to shine again.
It was only in her 23 years, still the youngest Grand Slam champion among active players.
- I worked a lot after Roland Garros and made some changes. The defeat was very difficult for me and I realized that I have to change something. I did physical tests to see where I am and what I should do. I spent a lot of time in the gym.
The problem was not difficult to locate.
- I keep getting lost in the third set. I am aware that much must be changed. Everything is still "Work in progress", but the results are already visible.
What are the changes in question?
- Clean the structural, but all of a plan of training, fitness, stretching, recovery. Enough of that, and what we do now. No plan, no structure. And just that I had before, when I play well. I want to go back to that time, to know where it is and how it works. Of course there are adjustments, but there must be a plan and goal.

http://www.zurnal.rs/2011/06/22/ana-radovi-su-u-toku-ali-se-vec-vide-rezultati/index.html?lang=lat

gaviotabr
Jun 23rd, 2011, 12:32 AM
Ana: I was just changed
N. Mandrapa | 22 June 2011. 20:48 | Comments: 2
Reporter "News" from London spoke with Ivanovic and second duels before Troicki School, wrote "grilling" of Novak Djokovic with friends ...


The rain that soaked today vimbldonsku grass is washed Serbian players hope to be able to show the world that, apart from Banjica masters, we have more leverage to the cups. This applies in particular to Ana Ivanovic, who was in one of his most convincing matches in his career, in the first round of the London Grand Slam, "broke" Married Melanie losing only one game throughout the match.

In addition to efficiency, speed, accuracy and ease of kicks, joy and positive energy of the former Queen Garros, which, if served at least a gram of fortune, ready to continue in the same style, and all the way up to the throne.
PARTY
Barbecue, which was prepared by Novak Djokovic in their home before the start of Wimbledon tennis players, for our and your friends are slowly becoming a true myth in the changing rooms' Ol England Club. "
- Indeed, we spent great. There was barbecue, and homemade food has never harm. We relaxed and hung out at the end we enjoyed the Serbian music - said Ivanovic.
- Uh, it would be nice if it happened. But the long road to the title, and I just want to win round after round and concentrate on the next match - says Ana.

Next opponent is her Greek woman Eleni Daniilidou, 121 the tour list.

- I know what to expect from it. It has an excellent backhand Šlajs online, and I'll have to be so low it would not be returning balls that too much to stand out from the field. At the same time, they will attack her forehand side, which is the weaker part of it, it seems to me.

Ivanovic admitted that she herself does not know why more is not playing as it played in the first round at Wimbledon.

- That I would also like to know, the right to tell you. However, I realized I needed to change some things in his work, mostly to do condition the plan. I conducted a series of physical tests, and when I saw what it is that I miss, I made a clear plan and know what to do and how I will do something. In fact, most matches I lost the third set, and it was a clear indicator of what is needed to improve. So I stayed in the gym more, and this is slowly paid, although it is a process that is on going.


http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:335332-Ana-Bas-sam-se-promenila

Sean.
Jun 23rd, 2011, 08:04 AM
Queen Garros def. Married Melanie at vimbledonsku! :lol:

Cajka
Jun 23rd, 2011, 09:00 AM
Queen Garros def. Married Melanie at vimbledonsku! :lol:

This is hilarious! :lol: :lol: :lol: "Udat" or "udan" ("udan" is rare) means married in Serbia. :spit:

Cajka
Jun 23rd, 2011, 06:16 PM
Today's interview:
http://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2011&mm=06&dd=23&nav_id=520912


Ivanovic said for B92 that she's satisfied with her tennis and she hopes to continue playing as she did before.

"The beginning of the match wasn't as good as the rest of it, but it was much influenced by the wind. Both of us had a problem with the toss and with short balls, but I am happy with the way I played after that and that I won 11 games in a row. It gives me a confidence and I hope to continue in this rhythm. "

"We can't expect to play every match perfectly, but this morning on practice session I played maybe the best tennis so far. I felt the ball in the right way and I wanted to continue at that level when we started the match, but it became very windy, so it was different. Also, it seemed to me as if her shots were faster than they actually were, so it took time to adjust".

Ana will probably play against Agnieszka Radwanska who leads against Petra Cetkovska 6:3, 5:4 (rain). :lol:

"Many times I played against them and we always had some close matches. Radwanska is more a defensive player and likes to use drop shot, so I have to be patient. In addition, I need to step into court, to attack, perhaps to play some volleys, because she doesn't like to be put under the pressure. It will be a tough match, but a lot depends on me and I hope to continue playing at the same level. "

Our journalist Igor Vujičin asked her how she spends free days at Grand Slam tournaments and Ana responded:

"People do not realize how much time it takes to play some one hour match or even one hour of practice session. Throughout that day we have obligations and we do not have time for ourselves. We can take some rest mostly on the day we win a match 'cause we know we won't play tomorrow. Then we can allow ourselves to go to a restaurant or something like that. The day before the match is more difficult - trainings, preparations, massage, recovery and we have to spend the quite evening and night in order to be fresh for the upcoming match. "

gaviotabr
Jun 23rd, 2011, 06:57 PM
Ivanovic delays coach search until after SW19

Reported on June 23, 2011

Former No. 1 Ana Ivanovic will not attempt to hire a new coach until after Wimbledon. The 2008 Roland Garros champion has not had a full-time coach since parting ways with Antonio Van Grichen in February. She has been working with adidas Player Development coach Darren Cahill, but he also does analysis for ESPN and has been helping Andy Murray. Ivanovic said in the early spring that she didn't want to hire a full-time coach, but now she feels that she is getting less than part-time help.

"I spoke to Darren a lot. I'm like, Darren, can you spend more time with me?" Ivanovic said after her 6-3, 6-0 victory over Eleni Daniilidou in the second round of Wimbledon. "But it's hard. Things change constantly. Darren is helping Andy and he's commentating. The original plan that we had, it's that he was going to spend a little more time with me. But it change obviously since Andy came on-board and then also since his commitments towards ESPN. When I was in America, we did spend a lot of time on court and it gave results. But it changed a little. It made me think. I spoke a lot to Darren about things to do. He understands the situation, that it's very, very hard for him to commit, to come out and watch also matches during the Grand Slams."

Ivanovic has also worked with adidas coach Sven Groenefeld in the past, but he's spending most of his time with No. 1 Caroline Wozniacki, and is also helping Murray as well as Laura Robson.

"He has lots of adidas players," Ivanovic said. "I saw him with Laura the past few days. It's hard. They do have a lot of players. I think lot of players are starting to use the program again. So I'm definitely going to have a talk with them as well and see how to approach things. But also now I feel like I'm playing good, and I want to keep this rhythm. It's not something I want to stress myself during the Grand Slam. But for sure as soon as this is over, I'll give more thought to it."

http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/ticker.aspx?articleid=12803&zoneid=6

I can't believe Ana is this connected with APDP. Seriously... they show her time and again that she is not a priority.. that should be reason enough for her to ditch them ASAP. :o

I'm still not feeling a lot of confidence on Ana hiring a coach.. she is all "I'll talk with APDP to see how to approach things..." PSss... :o

Cajka
Jun 23rd, 2011, 10:12 PM
http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/ticker.aspx?articleid=12803&zoneid=6

I can't believe Ana is this connected with APDP. Seriously... they show her time and again that she is not a priority.. that should be reason enough for her to ditch them ASAP. :o

I'm still not feeling a lot of confidence on Ana hiring a coach.. she is all "I'll talk with APDP to see how to approach things..." PSss... :o

It depends on her result here. If she loses the next match she will hire a coach, but if she reaches 4R or QF, I guess she won't.

gaviotabr
Jun 23rd, 2011, 10:29 PM
It depends on her result here. If she loses the next match she will hire a coach, but if she reaches 4R or QF, I guess she won't.

And that's the issue. It shouldn't depend. And she should never even consider APDP. They have proven time and again they couldn't care less about her. Look at Cahill for an example.. he had made an agreement with Ana, but it was Murray coming to him and he ditched her without thinking. This should be enough for her to get away from who doesn't give her value. Yet she keeps on so connected and wanting them to advise her.. it's plain dumb. I can't believe she doesn't have enough pride to step away.

If Ana wants to progress and to actually have a shot at big titles she needs structure and she needs guidance, and she will only get that from a coach who is there for her and who actually cares for her.

It only depends on her results here because she doesn't really WANT a coach. She is just not willing to do what it takes... just hoping it falls from the sky. So, at times it will. A draw will open up, she will have a good week. But without structure and her own team, she just won't be able to build herself to be a top player again. Clearly APDP will never have her as a priority.. without time, effort and care, they just can't help her to achieve anything of relevance.

I can't believe she is content with nothing more than leftovers. :tape::banghead:

gaviotabr
Jun 23rd, 2011, 10:30 PM
Ana: The boss himself!
B. S. - N. Ma. | 23 June 2011. 12:54> 19:21 | Comments: 3
Ivanovic broke Daniilidou 6-3, 6-0 in the third round he will meet with Czech woman Cetkovska. I listened to a lot of advice, now decide for itself, and bear the consequences - said Serbian player


ENOUGH Ana listened to advice from all sides. Our player has decided to take matters into their own hands and take more initiative when it comes to decision making. Changed system of work and training, for now, brings the desired results, but the smile on the face of the former queen of white sport whose game at Wimbledon all enjoy. After the first round of the Express, in the second round of Serbian women continued in the "tough" style, winning a Greek Eleni Daniilidou 6-3, 6-0.

The next clash with Serbian player will Cetkovska Czech woman, who after three sets beat Poland's Agnieszka Radwanska with a 3:6, 7:6, 6:4.


ANDREA NEK WIN TITLE IN - DOUBLES
Andrea Petkovic said she would like to buy yourself an hour if you win Wimbledon. Since you are the face of "Rolex" if you can provide her a discount? - Well, I'll just have to make a deal with her after the doubles - Ana jokes. - I would love to find her, of course, but I would prefer to win Wimbledon, Andrea, and let it be in the doubles.
Only, our players do not even remember when he last won two games releasing only four games, but he knows that the pieces slowly fit into the mosaic champion.

- I'm the one who changes the structure of their work, and I try to take more responsibility in decision making. Sometimes you just confuse the number of tips. Also, I know very well how it feels when you become number one and win a Grand Slam. So look around at the time and trying to compare what I did then, so I used this in the present.

It's nice to be your own boss, Ivanovic admits, but adds:

- Still need to have someone with you who will guide you and take care to stay on track. But again I have to be the one to decide what and how. Namely, in the past I made decisions and who were not mine, so I regretted what I was allowed. Now at least I learn from their own mistakes and the consequences of their work.

The only problem in a duel with a Greek woman was when she fled Ani ball again on the service. It appears that in itself can be a difficult opponent of the rival on the other side of the net.

- It is true, and so I lost concentration. But the main problem was the wind, and I was in spasm. I wanted to make viner immediately and is blown away from the field. In fact, before the match I did one of his best training and I wanted to convey in the match. When I realized that things do not go in the right direction, I changed tactics, I calmed down rhythm and elaborated points.

Ana as she wanted to finish it before the duel in order to avoid bad weather, which in those times were prepared.

- Yes, and I am rushing a bit because I heard the rain begin to fall at 13.00. I thought "oh, do not you go now, please." Fortunately, the weather was good until the end of the match - says Ana.

ZAR to hit and get a bruise?
On several occasions, Ana has played a few outstanding points, which are also forced her to leap and raise both hands in the air.
- Yes, there were some very nice points that are rarely seen. In one occasion when I returned a lob my team told me that it took the legs back to her ball. Oh, where, there is only that we lacked, to make a hit and bruises - Ana laughs.


http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:335404-Ana-Sama-sam-sebi-sef

gaviotabr
Jun 23rd, 2011, 10:34 PM
Ana misses coach
Ana Ivanovic's reincarnation as someone who can play continued with a 6-3, 6-0 win over Eleni Daniilidou. Ivanovic is in great form and could go well into the second week. If so it will be without coach Darren Cahill, who has been helping her but is now focused on Andy Murray. 'I asked Darren, "can you spend more time with me?" But it's hard.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2007521/WIMBLEDON-2011-Alex-Kays-court-report.html#ixzz1Q8ov3AN6

Begging atention from someone who couldn't care less... :facepalm:

Have some pride Ana!

Cajka
Jun 23rd, 2011, 10:46 PM
And that's the issue. It shouldn't depend. And she should never even consider APDP. They have proven time and again they couldn't care less about her. Look at Cahill for an example.. he had made an agreement with Ana, but it was Murray coming to him and he ditched her without thinking. This should be enough for her to get away from who doesn't give her value. Yet she keeps on so connected and wanting them to advise her.. it's plain dumb. I can't believe she doesn't have enough pride to step away.

If Ana wants to progress and to actually have a shot at big titles she needs structure and she needs guidance, and she will only get that from a coach who is there for her and who actually cares for her.

It only depends on her results here because she doesn't really WANT a coach. She is just not willing to do what it takes... just hoping it falls from the sky. So, at times it will. A draw will open up, she will have a good week. But without structure and her own team, she just won't be able to build herself to be a top player again. Clearly APDP will never have her as a priority.. without time, effort and care, they just can't help her to achieve anything of relevance.

I can't believe she is content with nothing more than leftovers. :tape::banghead:

It's a shame for them. Murray won't win W with them, so they''ll be sorry when she finds a coach and starts making some good results. Regardless of results here, I think that Ana understands how good she can be, she won't waste her talent and wait for them, I'm very confident about that. I also think that all she needs is a good support, someone who will make her trust in her abilities. The fact that she mentions that she wants to make her own decisions is very good, but she needs to make the right decision in the right moment. Right now she must think only about the very next match, the draw is good, but she must stay focused. Thinking about Lisicki or whoever is not good, the match against Petra is all that matters. Focus, focus and just focus.

gaviotabr
Jun 23rd, 2011, 10:52 PM
It's a shame for them. Murray won't win W with them, so they''ll be sorry when she finds a coach and starts making some good results. Regardless of results here, I think that Ana understands how good she can be, she won't waste her talent and wait for them, I'm very confident about that. I also think that all she needs is a good support, someone who will make her trust in her abilities. The fact that she mentions that she wants to make her own decisions is very good, but she needs to make the right decision in the right moment. Right now she must think only about the very next match, the draw is good, but she must stay focused. Thinking about Lisicki or whoever is not good, the match against Petra is all that matters. Focus, focus and just focus.

I agree. Right now she needs to focus on her next match and only on that. Then hopefully on the next match, and the next match, each at a time.

But I just can't believe she holds APDP, who couldn't care less about her, in such high steem. And how she is so content with their leftovers. As you say, she needs to make the right decisions. Staying with them is the worst one she could possibly make. I feel no confidence in her actually getting a coach, because each interview I read she is just hoping APDP would give her atention and saying how she wants to talk to them a lot to see how to work it out. She should never even consider people who ditch her at the first opportunity and clearly don't care. :o

Cajka
Jun 23rd, 2011, 10:56 PM
I agree. Right now she needs to focus on her next match and only on that. Then hopefully on the next match, and the next match, each at a time.

But I just can't believe she holds APDP, who couldn't care less about her, in such high steem. And how she is so content with their leftovers. As you say, she needs to make the right decisions. Staying with them is the worst one she could possibly make. I feel no confidence in her actually getting a coach, because each interview I read she is just hoping APDP would give her atention and saying how she wants to talk to them a lot to see how to work it out. She should never even consider people who ditch her at the first opportunity and clearly don't care. :o
The interview that you posted is very funny when you read the original version. Ana practically said that she wanted to destroy Eleni. :lol: :lol: I must admit that she's more honest when she speaks to Serbian journalists and the things she says definitely make more sense.

Cp6uja
Jun 24th, 2011, 01:01 AM
Today she want to destroy Eleni, and in Tuesday she want to kill Hewitt...

Ana finally starts to be aggressive, which is proven winning formula for her :devil: :bounce:

InsideOut.
Jun 24th, 2011, 09:47 AM
Kill and destroy! :bounce:

gaviotabr
Jun 24th, 2011, 11:43 AM
From swiss Le Matin. Am I the only one bothered that they compare Ana's effort in rebuilding her career with two old perpetually injured dudes?

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2564/lematin.png

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4991/lematin1.png

fANAtic
Jun 24th, 2011, 11:51 AM
Yes, it's bs. Ana is not much older from these "new stars", it's just that she was very young when she played her best tennis.

gaviotabr
Jun 24th, 2011, 05:32 PM
Ana's presser after the 2nd round:

WIMBLEDON

June 23, 2011

Ana Ivanovic

LONDON, ENGLAND

A. IVANOVIC/E. Daniilidou
6-3, 6-0


THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. Were you looking at those big black clouds and thinking, I want to get out of here before the rain comes down?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, I was, actually, because it started to get really close. I started looking up and I saw them approaching. I saw the forecast this morning and I saw that it's supposed to start at 1:00. I was like, Don't interrupt now. It was lucky in the end and it's still not raining.

Q. You seem so confident on the grass. What is it about Wimbledon that inspires you to play well?
ANA IVANOVIC: I think lots of players tend to peak for this event. It's one of the biggest tournaments in the world we have.
You know, I'm just very happy to manage to win a few matches. Having good week in Birmingham, then playing well in Eastbourne, it obviously helps and it builds up for Wimbledon.
This is where you want to perform your best. So I'm really happy to have, you know, already two wins.

Q. When is the last time you've lost four games in your first two matches at a tournament?
ANA IVANOVIC: It's been a while. And I must say it's really nice because I did put lot of work. You know, to see that work giving results finally, you know, I feel like, you know what, I know what I'm doing and I know why I'm playing well. That's very important thing to realize.

Q. So why are you playing well?
ANA IVANOVIC: I'm working on few things, you know, and starting to get a little more structure in my training and preparation and everything.
Yeah, having new things in mind when I play on my serve. You know, on the groundstrokes, you know, that's something that I know it's working. And just not having doubts when I play. I know this is the way I have to go about it and I stick with it even if I make some mistakes.
That wasn't the case in the past. So I'm really happy to have, you know, come to that point that, you know, just be persistent and consistent.

Q. This is the first time we've seen you with this black square-shaped racquet. Can you tell us about it and why you've chosen that?
ANA IVANOVIC: Well, it's a new racquet that I got. It's last year in Cincinnati. So in August. It's new technology from Yonex. I really enjoy it.
It's very soft frame, but, yeah, it gives you a lot of control. I think it's quite heavy, so for my game I like it. You know, I feel like I can swing through the ball freer.

Q. And unusual shape, obviously?
ANA IVANOVIC: I think it's normal, normal shape. A little bit bigger maybe head.

Q. Who's created the structure you're talking about? Is that you? You're sort of in between coaches again. Is it you, the hitting partner, or...
ANA IVANOVIC: No, it's me definitely. I'm really trying. That's one thing that I'm really trying to take more charge in the decision-making, you know. You have lots of people giving advices all the time. It just gets confusing.
And I'm the one, you know, who knows how it felt to become No. 1, to win Grand Slam. So I really try to look back to that time and reflect what I was doing then, comparing to what I was doing now.
And I saw some differences. So I really tried to step up and, you know, work hard and push myself and surround myself with good people.

Q. Didn't you say recently, though, that you were happy not to have a full-time coach? I read a couple weeks ago that now you're looking for a full-time coach again, or was that wrong?
ANA IVANOVIC: Another thing is that it worked really well. I spoke to Darren a lot. I'm like, Darren, can you spend more time with me?
But it's hard. Things change constantly. You know, Darren is helping Andy and he's commentating. The original plan that we had, it's that he was going to spend a little more time with me. But it change obviously since Andy came onboard and then also since his commitments towards ESPN.
When I was in America, we did spend a lot of time on court and it gave results. But, as I said, it change a little. It made me think. I spoke a lot to Darren about things to do, how to go about certain thing.
You know, he said, Yeah, you know, he understands the situation, that it's very, very hard for him to commit, to come out and watch also matches during the Grand Slams.

Q. You said your racquet gave you a softer feel. Could you talk a little bit more about that. Is that control?
ANA IVANOVIC: For my game, you know, I have quite powerful game. You want to have control because you want to feel like you can swing free. This is something that this racquet really gave me.
Since I picked it up, straightaway I made semis in first tournament I played with it. It definitely gives me that control and that, yeah, flexibility that I need.

Q. And in the past you've had some interesting comments on what you've been reading. What have you been reading recently?
ANA IVANOVIC: Actually, I just read the book The Island by Victoria Hislop. It was really good book. I read it within five days. I promise.
Now I'm starting a new one. Murakami. I got recommended. We'll see.

Q. What do you think of your next match against Petkovic?
ANA IVANOVIC: It's always fun. We have a great time playing doubles together. It's going to be interesting one again. It's really relaxing playing with her.

Q. Which Murakami book are you reading?
ANA IVANOVIC: Norwegian Wood.

Q. Have you thought about working with Sven again, or is he spending too much time with Caroline?
ANA IVANOVIC: He's engaged as well. He has lots of adidas players. I saw him with Laura Robson, too, past few days. It's hard. They do have a lot of players. I think lot of players are starting to use the program again.
So I'm definitely going to have a talk with them as well and see how to approach things. But also now, you know, I feel like I'm playing good, and I want to keep this rhythm. It's not something I want to stress myself during the Grand Slam.
But for sure, you know, as soon as this is over, I'll give more thought to it.

Q. Is it kind of nice being your own boss?
ANA IVANOVIC: It is nice. But you do need someone who's gonna help you and guide you, make sure you stay on right path. But yet it has to be your decision.
So, you know, in the past sometimes I made decisions that were not fully, you know, my decisions, so then I regret doing them. But, you know, if you make mistake and you are the one who took charge, at least you learn from it and you're wiser from it. If it wasn't yours, you cannot really, you know, learn from it as well, so...

Q. Have you gotten your strength, fitness, muscle, back to where you want it now?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah. It's still work in process, but it's big, big difference since French Open. And I feel it, you know. Each week it's been better and improving. I really did a lot of work on it since French Open, spent lot of time in the gym. You know, wasn't having much time off.
But that's at the end of the day what gives you confidence. And I can see it gives results on the court. So it just makes you want to do more and more. It's then finding balance when it's enough and when you have to switch and do recovery instead.

Q. So what are you bench pressing?
ANA IVANOVIC: I haven't gone that far yet. I'm still with rubber bands (laughter).

http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=72253

Ivanovic2008
Jun 24th, 2011, 11:26 PM
I liked that presser :)

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 12:40 AM
From serbian Nacionalni Gradanski, ahead of tomorrow's 3rd round match:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6278/ng1d.jpg

Balltossovic
Jun 25th, 2011, 01:27 AM
Of course. And I'm not saying it isn't. But for the type of game Ana plays, some muscles are needed. ;) Do you think Rafa without muscles would have the same success? ;)

And if she was not doing strength training before it was for a reason.. another wrong decision to add to the long list of wrong decisions of the past 3 years. The training she has been doing has obviously been unnefective and counterproductive, as she has been getting injuries due to being weak, she hasn't been able to last for long matches, she has lost a LOT of power in her shots and so on. ;)

And if we just can't write our opinions on Ana in this forum, then why a forum in the first place? I feel like I can write my opinion on anything here. I might not be with Ana 24/7, but I watch more of her matches than her own coach. It has been OBVIOUS that what she is doing or has been doing isn't working. If it was just simple stuff.. but it's obvious stuff. Things she has been doing that are bound to have only one possible effect: major fail.
This is really my last posts:lol:

This is my exact point. You're already jumping to the conclusion that is was a horrible decision by her or the team, jumping to the conclusion that she is injured because off waekness. Couldn't be that she struck the ball the wrong way? There are other reasons out there. People don't just get injuries simply because they're weak, or not doing strength training. How do you know she was injured as a result of weakness? You don't. Know one knows what the cause is. I mean, look at Kim she was one of the strongest players on the tour. He body was pure muscle, yet, she was still plagued by injury after injury.

No, it not obvious the training has been counter productive. Ana's been having better results in tourneys this past year and this year. She won two of the last three tourneys she entered last year. Something she had been unblle to do since 2008. To me, that speaks of improvement, not a decline. And yes, I'm chosing to ignore the first two slams of the year, because frankly, those loses were all in Ana's head. Her game was fine.
Izzy, all I'm trying to say is, once Ana says something you don't like, you attack:shrug: It's a horrible decision, she should have done this or that or this instead. Maybe just take some time to think before attacking. Okay so you think she's not doing strength training. you find that appalling, which I'm sure most of her peers would, too. But slow down a bit. Maybe she didn't just wake up one day and say screw this, I'm not doing weightsw anymore, maybe it wasn't adidas who just said, no more strength training. Maybe hse was hurt, and the weights were having an ill affect.

And I'm just using this one as an example. Seriosly, you say that you feel you can't post your opinion here. Frankly, you're the only one that does on a daily basis. I know as for myself (and several other people) it makes it hard to enjoy this forum, when you're always attacking Ana, her team, and what she does or doesn't do to your liking. I'd love to post more here, but I feel like everytime someone doesn't like what ou say, there will be hell to pay. This is a public forum, and everyone has the right to their opinion. I'm not saying you shouldn't post what you feel. I'm saying the way you go about it is a bit off putting.

Remember how upset you were when someone called your opinion ridiculous.

Look at some of your posts and what you right Ana and the people around her; there is no difference.

*Edit* Sorry. I miss read your posts:o I thought you said you felt you can't:tape:

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 01:50 AM
This is really my last posts:lol:

This is my exact point. You're already jumping to the conclusion that is was a horrible decision by her or the team, jumping to the conclusion that she is injured because off waekness. Couldn't be that she struck the ball the wrong way? There are other reasons out there. People don't just get injuries simply because they're weak, or not doing strength training. How do you know she was injured as a result of weakness? You don't. Know one knows what the cause is. I mean, look at Kim she was one of the strongest players on the tour. He body was pure muscle, yet, she was still plagued by injury after injury.

No, it not obvious the training has been counter productive. Ana's been having better results in tourneys this past year and this year. She won two of the last three tourneys she entered last year. Something she had been unblle to do since 2008. To me, that speaks of improvement, not a decline. And yes, I'm chosing to ignore the first two slams of the year, because frankly, those loses were all in Ana's head. Her game was fine.
Izzy, all I'm trying to say is, once Ana says something you don't like, you attack:shrug: It's a horrible decision, she should have done this or that or this instead. Maybe just take some time to think before attacking. Okay so you think she's not doing strength training. you find that appalling, which I'm sure most of her peers would, too. But slow down a bit. Maybe she didn't just wake up one day and say screw this, I'm not doing weightsw anymore, maybe it wasn't adidas who just said, no more strength training. Maybe hse was hurt, and the weights were having an ill affect.

And I'm just using this one as an example. Seriosly, you say that you feel you can't post your opinion here. Frankly, you're the only one that does on a daily basis. I know as for myself (and several other people) it makes it hard to enjoy this forum, when you're always attacking Ana, her team, and what she does or doesn't do to your liking. I'd love to post more here, but I feel like everytime someone doesn't like what ou say, there will be hell to pay. This is a public forum, and everyone has the right to their opinion. I'm not saying you shouldn't post what you feel. I'm saying the way you go about it is a bit off putting.

Remember how upset you were when someone called your opinion ridiculous.

Look at some of your posts and what you right Ana and the people around her; there is no difference.

*Edit* Sorry. I miss read your posts:o I thought you said you felt you can't:tape:

I have medical background and the injuries Ana has had are mostly due to weakness. 2011 has been, so far, the worst year of Ana's career. 2010 and 2009 are heaven compared to this year so far. The end of last year represented a different attitude, coaching team and a different training structure from anything Ana had this year, so you shouldn't bring that up. I was pretty happy and not complaining about anything at the end of last year. And I never said Ana was making bad decisions on purpose or she was just saying "screw this". But that doesn't make the OBVIOUS bad decisions any less awful. Again.. it's not like it's this or that regular stuff.. it's things that she would do that would only lead to failure.. that was the only posible result, and she did it anyway. That kind of obvious bad decision is what I criticize.. always almost in disbelief.

Look.... If you don't like my posts, put me on ignore. If it's off putting to you, then don't read it. I'm REALLY tired of having people telling me I should post this way or that way. That I should refrain from saying this or that.. If I'd do that, it would not be my opinion anymore, and then what would be the point of the forum? None. I will post whatever and however I feel like, because this is an opinion forum. I'm not writing to you telling you to get a grip and start to see things as they are instead of trying to find excuses for every stupid decision Ana makes. You can post whatever you feel like.. I might write in disagreement, but I will not be telling you how you shouldn't write this or that.

We can make an agreement though.. I'm willing to do this.. I'll never reply to you. So you can write whatever you feel like and not have the feeling you'll get hell for it. I don't know what getting hell means.. if it's me replying in disagreement, I'll spare you of that. I'll write whatever and however I feel like.. you should do the very same obviously.. this is a free, open forum. And I'll promisse I won't reply to you. Deal? I'll start right now.

Balltossovic
Jun 25th, 2011, 02:01 AM
I have medical background and the injuries Ana has had are mostly due to weakness. 2011 has been, so far, the worst year of Ana's career. 2010 and 2009 are heaven compared to this year so far. The end of last year represented a different attitude, coaching team and a different training structure from anything Ana had this year, so you shouldn't bring that up. I was pretty happy and not complaining about anything at the end of last year. And I never said Ana was making bad decisions on purpose or she was just saying "screw this". But that doesn't make the OBVIOUS bad decisions any less awful. Again.. it's not like it's this or that regular stuff.. it's things that she would do that would only lead to failure.. that was the only posible result, and she did it anyway. That kind of obvious bad decision is what I criticize.. always almost in disbelief.

Look.... If you don't like my posts, put me on ignore. If it's off putting to you, then don't read it. I'm REALLY tired of having people telling me I should post this way or that way. That I should refrain from saying this or that.. If I'd do that, it would not be my opinion anymore, and then what would be the point of the forum? None. I will post whatever and however I feel like, because this is an opinion forum. I'm not writing to you telling you to get a grip and start to see things as they are instead of trying to find excuses for every stupid decision Ana makes. You can post whatever you feel like.. I might write in disagreement, but I will not be telling you how you shouldn't write this or that.

We can make an agreement though.. I'm willing to do this.. I'll never reply to you. So you can write whatever you feel like and not have the feeling you'll get hell for it. I don't know what getting hell means.. if it's me replying in disagreement, I'll spare you of that. I'll write whatever and however I feel like.. you should do the very same obviously.. this is a free, open forum. And I'll promisse I won't reply to you. Deal? I'll start right now.
Thank you SO much for emphasizing my point for me!! If you're so tired of people giving you grief about your posts, then guess what? There's a problem with your posts. OVIOUSLY, I'm not the only one who's taken issue with them:lol: I think that's the only OBVIOUS thing here. Yes, it wouldn't be your OPINION. What you need to understand is, your opinion is not FACT!

Must be some medical background as we're the same age:tape: Clearly this 'background' has made you an expert on every kind of sports related injury. I mean, it takes a real expert to be able to tell where EXACTLY an injury comes from. Especially considering that person is five thousand miles away from the the actual person injured, and has never spoken to them, or know what activities they take part in on a daily basis. Clearly, you're in the wrong proffession. You should become a tennis coach/ physio/ therapist/ psychiatrist, and rid the world of "horrible or dumb, of terrible decisions". You'd obviously do a much better job that the people who have dedicated their lives to this sport:rolleyes:

I'm glad we have an understanding. I'll be more than happy to put you on ignore, starting now. It will make this forum an infinitly better place:)

:wavey:

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 02:06 AM
From serbian Nacionalni Gradanski, ahead of tomorrow's 3rd round match:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6278/ng1d.jpg

So, anything interesting here serbian speakers?

HowardH
Jun 25th, 2011, 02:28 AM
All right, I'm continuing the fitness/strength training discussion here, started off by Ana's comment:

"Q. So what are you bench pressing?
ANA IVANOVIC: I haven't gone that far yet. I'm still with rubber bands (laughter). "

Thanks for the advice Howard! I also have a pull up bar at home, and I'm terrified of taking down the house:tape:

I have no idea if I've installed correctly:help:

I'll deffo try the band method for the pull ups. I go to the gym when there's no one there, so it's okay if I make a fool of myself:spit:

Don't worry, you won't take down the house! The doorways are normally quite a strong part of the house.

Depending on the length of the band, another very common method is to simply step on the band with your foot while you try to do the pull up. Then you progress to a band that gives you less help, until you can do it without help.

If you can't get all the way up even with the help of your band, you can use a chair to get to the top, step on the band, and slowly lower yourself down (try to take 5 seconds or more) - a negative rep.

Ana squating and deadlifting?:lol: Extremely hard to even imagine and she probably doesn't want bigger quads. They're big as it is. Maybe some sprinting would be beneficial for her legs?

I think women are often worried about this. I suppose this is why a lot of the women even on the wta never get really serious about their strength training. But hypertrophy is difficult, even for guys sometimes, who have testosterone which aids the process. Women are more like children, in that even if they get much stronger, they often won't get much bigger. For most women, it will be difficult to gain a huge amount of muscle. Even for many men it's quite hard to grow muscles.

Men are often aiming for hypertrophy. So, it's instructive to see how they go about that, and what you would do to avoid it. It's also interesting to see how olympic weightlifters train, since they are trying to get stronger without getting any heavier. Generally speaking, to get muscle growth (hypertrophy) you need to strength train, and you need to eat. You need to eat more than you are burning off.

If Ana was really worried about getting bigger muscles, she should focus on controlling her diet along with her training. You won't get bigger if you aren't consuming more calories than you burn off. Having no excess calories makes it a little harder to gain strength, but it's still possible, at a slightly slower rate. She could also do cardio to burn off extra calories, but she should probably burn enough playing tennis, and excess cardio can be counterproductive when you are trying to increase strength.

She should also train heavy if she doesn't want her muscles to become too big. This is what most Olympic weightlifters do. Keep the reps at about 3-5 (i.e. the weight is so heavy she can't do many reps). At this rep range a lot of the strength you gain is due to neurological factors. Because the reps are low your muscles are actually not damaged that much and don't grow a lot when repaired. That way olympic lifters can get stronger while staying in a weight category. It is generally believed that the best range to make your muscles grow bigger is the 8-12 rep range (optimal combination of heavy weight and quite a lot of reps), so she could avoid that, if she was really worried. 15 reps or more results in very little muscle growth because the weight is low but also primarily trains endurance instead of increasing strength.

Sprinting would be good for her. I would definitely recommend it. However, I still think she should aim to increase the strength of her legs as well as upper body. For instance, male olympic sprinters normally can squat more than double their bodyweight, often 2.5 times bodyweight. Speed and strength are related qualities, especially when you are talking about moving an object as heavy as the human body. Track and field athletes, sprinters included, are almost all very serious about strength training, especially these days. When you're stronger you run faster and jump higher- especially if you can achieve it without getting much heavier. Of course you need some plyometrics or explosive training to make sure you can apply that strength quickly as well.

It seems you know a lot about these things. Could you give me some exercise tips?

Yes, I do a fair amount of training myself and have done a lot of research. I can certainly give you some tips. But the right advice for you would depend on what your aims were, and I don't know them at the moment. What are your training aims?


Yes, she is an athlete; one that's coming off a wrist injury. At my gym, the minimum you can bench is 40lbs. It hurt my chest and my wrist, and I wasn't hurting beforehand. Can you imagine what it would feel like to bench 40lbs with an injured wrist:confused:
She also had that abdominal strain. When you're working with weights, you work your core. Perhaps that's why she stopped:unsure: Maybe the regmen she had was making life difficult. It did flare up a second time:shrug:
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The change can't all happen at once. She's going to say generic things. I, for one, don't believe anything that is said by pro's in the press. It's all coached, I think, but with Ana, you never know.

But that's the thing... I'm not saying she should start by lifting 70 lbs, I'm saying now should not be a start. If it's starting now it means she hasn't been doing it. The injuries she has been having are a direct result of being weak.. and she is weak due to not doing the strength training before.

I think you are missing the point of my post completely. Of course if she is starting now she needs to start slow. She will have to do the weight training and build muscle if she is to ever recover power in her shots though. And the power in her shots are necessary for a real success of her game, to be able to beat more than scrubs. I'm not sure she will do it though... she hasn't been doing it for how long? If she was working her strength, it wasn't in an effective way, as she can't last in long matches, her shots are weak and lacking power and she has complained of lack of energy time and again.

I see the point about the wrist injury. If it is this that is stopping her, then she needs to heal that up as quickly as possible so she can gain back some more strength.

I think Bel is right in that Ana should have been strength training a long time ago. Maybe she has been? She should already be strong. She isn't an 18 yr old just out of the juniors. She's been on the tour for years. She should have developed a lot of strength, but I do think that this philosophy is not that common the wta tour yet. The 40lbs thing doesn't register for me... because I'm a guy and that isn't much for me. Hence the minimum for benching- 40lbs or so is an unweighted bar right? But I understand, when you begin, that might be too much.

Generally speaking, strength training at the start should involve experimenting to see how much strength you have. If you can't bench 40lbs without pain, then you won't be able to do a full push up yet right? So you would do push ups on your knees, trying to build up to a push up, and from there work towards a dip. By that stage you would be able to bench a reasonable amount should you care to. There is always a way forward, but you need to have a plan.

Muscle isnt the only thing that gives you power:shrug: Rafa has WAY more than Roger, but Roger consistanly produces more power than Rafa. It also has to do with technique and other variables. You can't just assume it was a terrible decision because we don't know what the factors behind it were. We sit behind our computers and judge. She's the one who has to put in the work and whos carreer is affected.

Of course. And I'm not saying it isn't. But for the type of game Ana plays, some muscles are needed. ;) Do you think Rafa without muscles would have the same success? ;)

This is another interesting issue, but power on shots in the men's and women's game, as well as leg strength, are all different factors.

There is always a minimum level of strength required to do something. If you have great technique, you can make up for a slight lack of strength, but you need a certain minimum.

Now, the heavier a weight is, the more minimum strength you need to move it fast. So, when swinging a tennis racquet, which weighs a few hundred grams, at a ball which also weighs a relatively small amount, you don't need all that much strength to hit it extremely hard. But what is the minimum you need, assuming you have great technique? Probably about the amount Sampras and Federer had. A fair amount, above average, but not out of this world for a guy. With this amount of strength you can serve 200kph plus and hit huge groundies, with good technique. Many men will acquire this level of strength quite easily. A boy of 13 will probably not have this minimum strength, but a 18 or 19 yr old might well have enough without a lot of serious training.

However, fewer women reach this level of strength. For them, the strength level required to hit 200kph plus is more rare, and requires them to have strength well above the average woman. So women's need to strength train is actually higher than the need for many men, who will often be naturally strong.

Also, what happens when the object is heavier? Like, for instance, running, which involves moving your whole body? In this case, because the body weighs many kilograms, even men benefit significantly from strength training. Rafa's strong legs make him probably the best mover on the tour right now, especially on clay where leg strength really plays a role. And as I said, Olympic sprinters are very strong. And they are the quickest around.

So, once you pass a certain minimum amount of strength for a task, you don't need more. Rafa wouldn't gain much power on his shots by being even stronger, because he is well past the minimum needed to hit 200kph serves and big groundies. For an object as light as a racquet and ball, someone like Roger easily passes this minimum. However, many women do not, which is why being a bit stronger and more powerful can be a huge advantage in the women's game. This is something Ana should try to take advantage of. I still think the bh topspin might be just as big an issue... but her power advantage is something Ana should capitalize on. She should be able to overpower most opponents.

Ah, sorry the post is so long. Maybe I should have split it into more than one.

Balltossovic
Jun 25th, 2011, 02:41 AM
All right, I'm continuing the fitness/strength training discussion here, started off by Ana's comment:

"Q. So what are you bench pressing?
ANA IVANOVIC: I haven't gone that far yet. I'm still with rubber bands (laughter). "



Don't worry, you won't take down the house! The doorways are normally quite a strong part of the house.

Depending on the length of the band, another very common method is to simply step on the band with your foot while you try to do the pull up. Then you progress to a band that gives you less help, until you can do it without help.

If you can't get all the way up even with the help of your band, you can use a chair to get to the top, step on the band, and slowly lower yourself down (try to take 5 seconds or more) - a negative rep.
I see the point about the wrist injury. If it is this that is stopping her, then she needs to heal that up as quickly as possible so she can gain back some more strength.

I think Bel is right in that Ana should have been strength training a long time ago. Maybe she has been? She should already be strong. She isn't an 18 yr old just out of the juniors. She's been on the tour for years. She should have developed a lot of strength, but I do think that this philosophy is not that common the wta tour yet. The 40lbs thing doesn't register for me... because I'm a guy and that isn't much for me. Hence the minimum for benching- 40lbs or so is an unweighted bar right? But I understand, when you begin, that might be too much.

Generally speaking, strength training at the start should involve experimenting to see how much strength you have. If you can't bench 40lbs without pain, then you won't be able to do a full push up yet right? So you would do push ups on your knees, trying to build up to a push up, and from there work towards a dip. By that stage you would be able to bench a reasonable amount should you care to. There is always a way forward, but you need to have a plan.
It's just that, that is the least amount you can set the machine to. I tried to do it consistantly for a week, but I was hurting at the end. Maybe if I laid on my back and held ten pound weights in each hand to start:confused:

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 02:43 AM
All right, I'm continuing the fitness/strength training discussion here, started off by Ana's comment:

"Q. So what are you bench pressing?
ANA IVANOVIC: I haven't gone that far yet. I'm still with rubber bands (laughter). "



Don't worry, you won't take down the house! The doorways are normally quite a strong part of the house.

Depending on the length of the band, another very common method is to simply step on the band with your foot while you try to do the pull up. Then you progress to a band that gives you less help, until you can do it without help.

If you can't get all the way up even with the help of your band, you can use a chair to get to the top, step on the band, and slowly lower yourself down (try to take 5 seconds or more) - a negative rep.



I think women are often worried about this. I suppose this is why a lot of the women even on the wta never get really serious about their strength training. But hypertrophy is difficult, even for guys sometimes, who have testosterone which aids the process. Women are more like children, in that even if they get much stronger, they often won't get much bigger. For most women, it will be difficult to gain a huge amount of muscle. Even for many men it's quite hard to grow muscles.

Men are often aiming for hypertrophy. So, it's instructive to see how they go about that, and what you would do to avoid it. It's also interesting to see how olympic weightlifters train, since they are trying to get stronger without getting any heavier. Generally speaking, to get muscle growth (hypertrophy) you need to strength train, and you need to eat. You need to eat more than you are burning off.

If Ana was really worried about getting bigger muscles, she should focus on controlling her diet along with her training. You won't get bigger if you aren't consuming more calories than you burn off. Having no excess calories makes it a little harder to gain strength, but it's still possible, at a slightly slower rate. She could also do cardio to burn off extra calories, but she should probably burn enough playing tennis, and excess cardio can be counterproductive when you are trying to increase strength.

She should also train heavy if she doesn't want her muscles to become too big. This is what most Olympic weightlifters do. Keep the reps at about 3-5 (i.e. the weight is so heavy she can't do many reps). At this rep range a lot of the strength you gain is due to neurological factors. Because the reps are low your muscles are actually not damaged that much and don't grow a lot when repaired. That way olympic lifters can get stronger while staying in a weight category. It is generally believed that the best range to make your muscles grow bigger is the 8-12 rep range (optimal combination of heavy weight and quite a lot of reps), so she could avoid that, if she was really worried. 15 reps or more results in very little muscle growth because the weight is low but also primarily trains endurance instead of increasing strength.

Sprinting would be good for her. I would definitely recommend it. However, I still think she should aim to increase the strength of her legs as well as upper body. For instance, male olympic sprinters normally can squat more than double their bodyweight, often 2.5 times bodyweight. Speed and strength are related qualities, especially when you are talking about moving an object as heavy as the human body. Track and field athletes, sprinters included, are almost all very serious about strength training, especially these days. When you're stronger you run faster and jump higher- especially if you can achieve it without getting much heavier. Of course you need some plyometrics or explosive training to make sure you can apply that strength quickly as well.



Yes, I do a fair amount of training myself and have done a lot of research. I can certainly give you some tips. But the right advice for you would depend on what your aims were, and I don't know them at the moment. What are your training aims?





I see the point about the wrist injury. If it is this that is stopping her, then she needs to heal that up as quickly as possible so she can gain back some more strength.

I think Bel is right in that Ana should have been strength training a long time ago. Maybe she has been? She should already be strong. She isn't an 18 yr old just out of the juniors. She's been on the tour for years. She should have developed a lot of strength, but I do think that this philosophy is not that common the wta tour yet. The 40lbs thing doesn't register for me... because I'm a guy and that isn't much for me. Hence the minimum for benching- 40lbs or so is an unweighted bar right? But I understand, when you begin, that might be too much.

Generally speaking, strength training at the start should involve experimenting to see how much strength you have. If you can't bench 40lbs without pain, then you won't be able to do a full push up yet right? So you would do push ups on your knees, trying to build up to a push up, and from there work towards a dip. By that stage you would be able to bench a reasonable amount should you care to. There is always a way forward, but you need to have a plan.





This is another interesting issue, but power on shots in the men's and women's game, as well as leg strength, are all different factors.

There is always a minimum level of strength required to do something. If you have great technique, you can make up for a slight lack of strength, but you need a certain minimum.

Now, the heavier a weight is, the more minimum strength you need to move it fast. So, when swinging a tennis racquet, which weighs a few hundred grams, at a ball which also weighs a relatively small amount, you don't need all that much strength to hit it extremely hard. But what is the minimum you need, assuming you have great technique? Probably about the amount Sampras and Federer had. A fair amount, above average, but not out of this world for a guy. With this amount of strength you can serve 200kph plus and hit huge groundies, with good technique. Many men will acquire this level of strength quite easily. A boy of 13 will probably not have this minimum strength, but a 18 or 19 yr old might well have enough without a lot of serious training.

However, fewer women reach this level of strength. For them, the strength level required to hit 200kph plus is more rare, and requires them to have strength well above the average woman. So women's need to strength train is actually higher than the need for many men, who will often be naturally strong.

Also, what happens when the object is heavier? Like, for instance, running, which involves moving your whole body? In this case, because the body weighs many kilograms, even men benefit significantly from strength training. Rafa's strong legs make him probably the best mover on the tour right now, especially on clay where leg strength really plays a role. And as I said, Olympic sprinters are very strong. And they are the quickest around.

So, once you pass a certain minimum amount of strength for a task, you don't need more. Rafa wouldn't gain much power on his shots by being even stronger, because he is well past the minimum needed to hit 200kph serves and big groundies. For an object as light as a racquet and ball, someone like Roger easily passes this minimum. However, many women do not, which is why being a bit stronger and more powerful can be a huge advantage in the women's game. This is something Ana should try to take advantage of. I still think the bh topspin might be just as big an issue... but her power advantage is something Ana should capitalize on. She should be able to overpower most opponents.

Ah, sorry the post is so long. Maybe I should have split it into more than one.

Great post Howard, very interesting.

I agree the power advantage is something Ana should try to capitalize on. I was watching some highlights from her match against Dementieva at Beijing last year and she was hitting the ball considerably harder than at any match this year. I think Ana's game has to be based on power. She will just never be able to be fast enough to win matches in which the opponent can hit her off the court. So she has to at least be able to stand toe to toe on power with most opponents. That isn't the case right now.

HowardH
Jun 25th, 2011, 03:16 AM
Yes, if Ana was even stronger I think her power could increase even further, which would help her serve and fh. Her bh has some issues that seem to be non-strength related. She often contacts too late or mistimes, so that's a separate issue.

I always wondered what would happen if she made her legs more powerful. If her movement was better her game would be stronger. Watching Venus move on the grass makes Ana look like a snail, but I wouldn't expect her to get that fast, just a little faster.

It's just that, that is the least amount you can set the machine to. I tried to do it consistantly for a week, but I was hurting at the end. Maybe if I laid on my back and held ten pound weights in each hand to start:confused:

Sounds like quite a good idea, except that then these would be free weights so you would either need a spotter or need to know for sure that you can handle them without any risk of them dropping. Also, is that a challenging enough weight for you?

Another issue is how often you train. 3 times a week would be sufficient, you need 48 hrs or more to recover from a tough workout. Planning enough rest time will help avoid pain. I wonder if your grip and wrist position is correct? There is an article here about bench press grips and wrist pain. http://stronglifts.com/how-you-can-avoid-wrist-pain-from-the-bench-press/

I would also work on your push ups. Can you do push ups on your knees? There is a lot of info on the net about working up to a push up. If you can't do the up portion just lower yourself as slowly as you can (5-10 sec or more). That will build upper body strength. Perhaps you should also work on the basic push up plank position. Hold the top of a push up position for 30 sec. Build up gradually each week until you can do a couple of minutes. It doesn't have to be bench press. You just need an exercise that works the triceps and chest muscles, that you can do without pain, but that is challenging enough. By doing that you will get strong enough to do other exercises. As you get stronger you can try the bench machine again and see if you are strong enough to do that without pain yet.

If you have wrist pain even doing knee push ups, then you can also try the alternative push up hand position mentioned in this article: http://www.fitsugar.com/Pain-From-Push-Ups-Try-2678763

By the way, for women who are worried about getting bigger, these two women in the youtube links below are very very strong (one is one of the best sprinters in sweden, and also an excellent weightlifter, and the other represented Scotland and Britain at the world champs and commonwealth games in weightlifting). And they aren't even that big. They only weigh between 53 and 56 kg. If you don't need to be as strong as them you should be able to be even smaller- not that there's any need for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsl8TK0ybbA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H01JaAonYLA

InsideOut.
Jun 25th, 2011, 05:05 AM
From swiss Le Matin. Am I the only one bothered that they compare Ana's effort in rebuilding her career with two old perpetually injured dudes?


I definitely wouldn't complain if she got either of their backhands :shrug:

InsideOut.
Jun 25th, 2011, 05:09 AM
All right, I'm continuing the fitness/strength training discussion here, started off by Ana's comment:

"Q. So what are you bench pressing?
ANA IVANOVIC: I haven't gone that far yet. I'm still with rubber bands (laughter). "



Don't worry, you won't take down the house! The doorways are normally quite a strong part of the house.

Depending on the length of the band, another very common method is to simply step on the band with your foot while you try to do the pull up. Then you progress to a band that gives you less help, until you can do it without help.

If you can't get all the way up even with the help of your band, you can use a chair to get to the top, step on the band, and slowly lower yourself down (try to take 5 seconds or more) - a negative rep.



I think women are often worried about this. I suppose this is why a lot of the women even on the wta never get really serious about their strength training. But hypertrophy is difficult, even for guys sometimes, who have testosterone which aids the process. Women are more like children, in that even if they get much stronger, they often won't get much bigger. For most women, it will be difficult to gain a huge amount of muscle. Even for many men it's quite hard to grow muscles.

Men are often aiming for hypertrophy. So, it's instructive to see how they go about that, and what you would do to avoid it. It's also interesting to see how olympic weightlifters train, since they are trying to get stronger without getting any heavier. Generally speaking, to get muscle growth (hypertrophy) you need to strength train, and you need to eat. You need to eat more than you are burning off.

If Ana was really worried about getting bigger muscles, she should focus on controlling her diet along with her training. You won't get bigger if you aren't consuming more calories than you burn off. Having no excess calories makes it a little harder to gain strength, but it's still possible, at a slightly slower rate. She could also do cardio to burn off extra calories, but she should probably burn enough playing tennis, and excess cardio can be counterproductive when you are trying to increase strength.

She should also train heavy if she doesn't want her muscles to become too big. This is what most Olympic weightlifters do. Keep the reps at about 3-5 (i.e. the weight is so heavy she can't do many reps). At this rep range a lot of the strength you gain is due to neurological factors. Because the reps are low your muscles are actually not damaged that much and don't grow a lot when repaired. That way olympic lifters can get stronger while staying in a weight category. It is generally believed that the best range to make your muscles grow bigger is the 8-12 rep range (optimal combination of heavy weight and quite a lot of reps), so she could avoid that, if she was really worried. 15 reps or more results in very little muscle growth because the weight is low but also primarily trains endurance instead of increasing strength.

Sprinting would be good for her. I would definitely recommend it. However, I still think she should aim to increase the strength of her legs as well as upper body. For instance, male olympic sprinters normally can squat more than double their bodyweight, often 2.5 times bodyweight. Speed and strength are related qualities, especially when you are talking about moving an object as heavy as the human body. Track and field athletes, sprinters included, are almost all very serious about strength training, especially these days. When you're stronger you run faster and jump higher- especially if you can achieve it without getting much heavier. Of course you need some plyometrics or explosive training to make sure you can apply that strength quickly as well.



Yes, I do a fair amount of training myself and have done a lot of research. I can certainly give you some tips. But the right advice for you would depend on what your aims were, and I don't know them at the moment. What are your training aims?





I see the point about the wrist injury. If it is this that is stopping her, then she needs to heal that up as quickly as possible so she can gain back some more strength.

I think Bel is right in that Ana should have been strength training a long time ago. Maybe she has been? She should already be strong. She isn't an 18 yr old just out of the juniors. She's been on the tour for years. She should have developed a lot of strength, but I do think that this philosophy is not that common the wta tour yet. The 40lbs thing doesn't register for me... because I'm a guy and that isn't much for me. Hence the minimum for benching- 40lbs or so is an unweighted bar right? But I understand, when you begin, that might be too much.

Generally speaking, strength training at the start should involve experimenting to see how much strength you have. If you can't bench 40lbs without pain, then you won't be able to do a full push up yet right? So you would do push ups on your knees, trying to build up to a push up, and from there work towards a dip. By that stage you would be able to bench a reasonable amount should you care to. There is always a way forward, but you need to have a plan.





This is another interesting issue, but power on shots in the men's and women's game, as well as leg strength, are all different factors.

There is always a minimum level of strength required to do something. If you have great technique, you can make up for a slight lack of strength, but you need a certain minimum.

Now, the heavier a weight is, the more minimum strength you need to move it fast. So, when swinging a tennis racquet, which weighs a few hundred grams, at a ball which also weighs a relatively small amount, you don't need all that much strength to hit it extremely hard. But what is the minimum you need, assuming you have great technique? Probably about the amount Sampras and Federer had. A fair amount, above average, but not out of this world for a guy. With this amount of strength you can serve 200kph plus and hit huge groundies, with good technique. Many men will acquire this level of strength quite easily. A boy of 13 will probably not have this minimum strength, but a 18 or 19 yr old might well have enough without a lot of serious training.

However, fewer women reach this level of strength. For them, the strength level required to hit 200kph plus is more rare, and requires them to have strength well above the average woman. So women's need to strength train is actually higher than the need for many men, who will often be naturally strong.

Also, what happens when the object is heavier? Like, for instance, running, which involves moving your whole body? In this case, because the body weighs many kilograms, even men benefit significantly from strength training. Rafa's strong legs make him probably the best mover on the tour right now, especially on clay where leg strength really plays a role. And as I said, Olympic sprinters are very strong. And they are the quickest around.

So, once you pass a certain minimum amount of strength for a task, you don't need more. Rafa wouldn't gain much power on his shots by being even stronger, because he is well past the minimum needed to hit 200kph serves and big groundies. For an object as light as a racquet and ball, someone like Roger easily passes this minimum. However, many women do not, which is why being a bit stronger and more powerful can be a huge advantage in the women's game. This is something Ana should try to take advantage of. I still think the bh topspin might be just as big an issue... but her power advantage is something Ana should capitalize on. She should be able to overpower most opponents.

Ah, sorry the post is so long. Maybe I should have split it into more than one.

Excellent read, thanks for the tips for my own workout :hatoff:

Another thing though - when you talk about Rafa's big groundies, is it the speed of the ball's movement through the court that you're taking into account, or the torque of the ball? Is it possible for Rafa to gain even more rpm on the ball with more strength acquired, or for Ana?

Cajka
Jun 25th, 2011, 05:52 AM
It's just that, that is the least amount you can set the machine to. I tried to do it consistantly for a week, but I was hurting at the end. Maybe if I laid on my back and held ten pound weights in each hand to start:confused:

I don't know. It's safer with bench press machine, it provides you a balance. Maybe you should get some strength other way before starting the bench press exercises, but of course you have a fitness instructor in gym and they know better than me. I can lift 20 kilos (it's like 40 ibs), but I can't do the push ups, I don't have a control. I guess it's sometimes more about the skills than about pure strength. I have some fat, I should lose few pounds, but the % of the fat in my body is OK, I'm obviously very strong since I have more kilos than someone would tell, but there are things I can't do. When I'm playing tennis with friends, I'm terrible, I push the ball, I can't hit it hard at all. :lol: :tape: :help:

Cajka
Jun 25th, 2011, 05:56 AM
So, anything interesting here serbian speakers?

I'll read it and translate if there's something interesting.

Cajka
Jun 25th, 2011, 06:03 AM
I'll read it and translate if there's something interesting.

NO. It's some article about results from W. The first part is about Novak and the second is about Ana and there's a part of interview that we already translated here.

Cajka
Jun 25th, 2011, 06:34 AM
I have a question for Howard. He was mentioning burning calories. We see tennis players playing long matches etc. How is it possible that there are over weight girls in tennis? Guys are not over weight, but there are girls that are fat in fact? Oudin, Bartoli, Kleybanova :help: :help: :help: How is that possible? They are pro athletes, how is it possible to be a pro and have that fat belly?

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 10:52 AM
Ana: Cetkovska will attack
N. Ma | 24 June 2011. 20:36 | Comments: 0
Czech Republic's game sharp and straight, and will not be easy to get, Ivanovic said that the excellent results in singles and doubles competition at Wimbledon began


From a special correspondent in London

Double crown smiles Ana Ivanovic at Wimbledon. Currently, views towards winning trophies in singles and doubles are just shy, under the brow, but if she does point out the slightest chance to break through to the end and won their second Grand Slam Queen Garros in 2008. it will do.


However, it must first pass the third round, where on Saturday (if it does not rain) waiting for Czech Republic's Petra Cetkovska. It is the 81st player in the world, by Ana won in Paris three years ago, 6:0, 6:0. The wounds have not healed the body of the girls from Prostejov, which is certainly eager for revenge.

- With Cetkovska I played at Roland Garros, which was our only meeting - says Ana. - It is a dangerous opponent because she hit a straight, sharp, and the offensive-minded.

Nadal the match against Radwanska Ivanovic, to make her "collected" debts from before, but favored Polish lost to Petra.

- I wanted to get her revenge for all the defeats of 7:5, 7:6 and uncertain matches that I lost, but Cetkovska went on. I will have to be maximally concentrated and hope for the best.

Opportunity to prepare to meet Ivanovic had in doubles, where she and Andrea Petkovic tandem proved to be a Serb could soon rule the women's doubles. They are so bright and well-tuned operating in the field, it is clear that with the right to think about the title.

- We could do the cup, why not. Great play, great and get along well we went. Only that it should be continued. Andrea is a fantastic person and I am pleased that I was with her along on the field - says Ana.


http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:335602-Ana-Cetkovska-ce-napasti

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 10:52 AM
NO. It's some article about results from W. The first part is about Novak and the second is about Ana and there's a part of interview that we already translated here.

Thanks!!!

fANAtic
Jun 25th, 2011, 11:32 AM
Yes, I do a fair amount of training myself and have done a lot of research. I can certainly give you some tips. But the right advice for you would depend on what your aims were, and I don't know them at the moment. What are your training aims?

Thanks. Here's what I wrote in the Off topic thread:
Ok Howard, I need a program to get bigger. I'm skinny, especially in the lower body. Bodyweight exercises are preferred.
I'm not a beginner when it comes to push ups and pull ups, but I need a more advanced program to grow some more muscle and I would especially want to do something about my scrawny legs. It's almost Simon situation.

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 07:49 PM
Anu shocked outsider from the Czech Republic

Photo: AP
Text: Press
Ivanovic has missed an opportunity to the far dogura this year's tournament in London

It was nice while it lasted! Serbian tennis player Ana Ivanovic ended the participation at the 125th jubilee Wimbledon, after the third round of 81 defeat players on the WTA list Czech girls Petra Cetkovska, 2-0, in sets 6:2, 7:6 (7:0).

Ana has never managed to repeat the excellent playing from the first two rounds, and Cetkovska no problems, after an hour and ten minutes into the game, was ranked eighth in the finals of the most prestigious tennis tournament in the world. She will play in the next round match against the winner Lisicki - Doi.

Did not even dream
In the opening games was not too much excitement, since both players entered the game a bit reserved. The first is pripretila Cetkovska in the third game when he used the new Anna's forehand error from the lead with 2:1. Ivanovic, unlike the previous two matches against American and Greek women Odin Melanie Elin Daniilidou, is glowing, very bad move, so many mistakes. With all that is great served Cetkovska and Anna could not manage to seriously threaten the opponent. This is best illustrated by the fact that the 18th nositeljka not have a single break point opportunity. Czech woman knew how to use it, just tied another break and soon reached the great advantages - 4:1. In this situation the first set has already been lost, and the solid Cetkovska had no trouble after 22 minutes, end the routine work and gets the first set 6:2.

In the match played Ana is a little better, but did not give Cetkovska, and on both sides there was no break opportunity. It is almost got the script from the first set again after the seventh game in the Czech Republic's threatened Ana's service again, but on 18 tennis player in the world this time managed to repulse an attack rivals, a 4-3 lead and thus stay in the game. Ana in the final again had problems, but avoid the excellent service break and the set eventually decided in the tie-break. In an additional game play Ana Ivanovic fell apart, so our player in that time did not win any points. Cetkovska with more than convincing 7-0 certified by placement in the third round at Wimbledon.

The biggest success Cetkovska
Cetkovska, which so far at Wimbledon has never passed the first round, expected in the final round of debate with the better match between Germany's Sabine Lisicki and Thongs Misaki Doi. She was eliminated before Ana Ivanovic Kristina Barrois and 13 nositeljku Poland's Agnieszka Radwanska. Prior to her best result at Wimbledon in her career was on the 4th round at Roland Garros in 2008, when Anne had just lost by a 6:0, 6:0, in their only previous encounter. Serb woman in Paris and won his only Grand Slam title of her career.

On the other hand, Ana Ivanovic continued a series of poor results in the Grand helmets, since in the last two years only once in the eight finals played at one of the four major tournaments. She was the last time succeeded at last year's U.S. Open.

Nikola Pilic for the Press
Ana has to believe in yourself
Although we are the same thing happened who knows how many times in the last three years, we have again made the same mistake: We believe in more than Anne herself. This is actually the biggest problem that Ivanovic has, if not the only one. Loss of confidence, loss of faith in themselves and in their own capabilities, once again was devastating for the Serbian tennis player. Crisis that Ana Ivanovic has been fighting continued with a defeat of Petra Cetkovska in the third round at Wimbledon, and something tells me that following this failure deepened even more.
It has long been known to be much easier to reach the top than it is to keep a former Roland Garros winner every day confirms this thesis. Nobody has the right to say that Anna will never be at the top of women's tennis and the future of it should not expect extraordinary results. But if you really want to return to the old paths, if she cares about winning the tournament and a higher profile on the WTA list, then it would itself have to believe it. Otherwise, it would hardly be able to regain the reputation they had before Wimbledon 2008th year.
It is easy to be smart now, but it is very possible that Anna was better that the first two games had a bit more difficult opponents, or at least took more sweat in order to achieve these two victories. Thus, after a convincing win over Melanie Oudin and Danilidovom, perhaps gained an unrealistic picture of what is in the form. In the third game ran at a very motivated opponent, who knew how to use Anna's weaknesses. Although the group does not belong to the world's elite players, Cetkovska proved to be very awkward dancer and Ivanovic simply did not knew how to withstand this pressure. Her problem is not in service and forehand, her problem is psychological in nature and therefore much harder to find the right solution. I believe that Anna can do it, but the question is whether to believe in herself. The crisis will certainly be extended after this match, and there will be to reduce expectations and arm yourself with patience.

http://sportservis.pressonline.rs/wsw/index.php?p=91&ni=23809

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 07:50 PM
Ana B92: "It's totally out of rhythm"
B92
Serbian tennis player Ana Ivanović told B92's after losing to Petra Cetkovska 2-0 in the third round Vimblodna.

Ivanovic was unhappy with my performance, as the largest difference from the first two rounds, when he celebrated by far, said bad ritern.

"I tried to play the same, I think of things that I thought in the first two games, playing aggressively ... As far as service, I really felt that I had a good rhythm. Simple, lacking a little explosion, but the biggest difference was the riternu. "

"I had a feeling that I can not insert ritern, my rhythm was totally out of control and I think today was the biggest difference. It is well-served, played a much more aggressive than I expected, and I had a feeling the whole match to defend myself. Even when I received a second set of their services, I had the feeling that i am rushing to it because it always broke my service, and to her service she received more easily counted, "said Ivanovic B92.

http://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2011&mm=06&dd=25&nav_id=521344

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Ivanovic: Tennis in my focus, I have no time for suitors

June 25, 2011
Press conference after Ana Ivanovic after the defeat of Cetkovska was interesting. Ana as usual had to talk about his private life. Since it is separated from the golfer Adam Scott, Ivanovic name is not mentioned in columns with romantic overtones.
- I have no time for suitors - Tennis .- I said the focus is 100 percent, I do not have time even to think about it.

I broke three rackets in South-U.S. Open
Ana has played a match with temperamentally Cetkovska.
- They help my reaction to the ground. Even when the frustration, sometimes it is a good release. I was cold at first, but after that I cried, I disburden. I started to play better. It is good that balance, provided it is not destructive
Cetkovska not broke against the tool, but previously did.
- Three years ago I was in South-U.S. Open, when I lost the first round, broke three rackets in a row and nothing helped. I broke them in the gym, all three were broken in the same place, they were able to get along fine - smiled.

http://www.zurnal.rs/2011/06/25/ivanovic-nemam-vremena-za-udvarace-tenis-mi-je-u-fokusu/index.html?lang=lat

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 07:57 PM
Wimbledon: The End of Hannah
News online / N. Ma | 25 June 2011. 14:59> 20:45 | Comments: 8
Serbian tennis player was defeated in the third round of Grand Slam of Czech girls in London Petra Cetkovska with 2:6, 6:7 (0:7)

Srbja no longer representative in the ladies singles competition at Wimbledon. The only remaining Serbian tennis player Ana Ivanovic was defeated in the third round of the third grand slam of the season, held in London, Petra Cetkovska of the Czech girls, which is 18 player in the world beat with 2:6, 6:7 (0:7), after 70 minutes of play.

Ana started the match well, but immediately and stopped. After winning the first game of its own service, a Serb, she allowed her rivals that her next two service takes away game, which is used Cetkovska and after only 22 minutes of play came to winning the first set.


The second set was little better as far as Anna's game, but the former first tennis player in the world could not manage to get the opportunity to withdraw the service rivals (no break points for the entire match), while in the Czech Republic's two games had two opportunities to break.

Since both players have won games in their own services, the other set is entered into this break, which is fully belong Cetkovskoj. At the very beginning, 81 player in the WTA rankings, reached a mini-break, and Ivanovic to the end of the match failed to score any points.

Czech Republic's so revenged the defeat in Ani their only previous clash each other (Ana at Roland Garros 2008. Won by 6:0, 6:0), and in the fourth round winners will play a match where they meet Japan's Misaki Doi and Germany's Sabine Lisicki .

- I tried to play like the last two matches at Wimbledon, I even had a nice rhythm on the service, but we lacked explosiveness. In doing so, I have no ritern you to enter. I did not control the game and the whole time I was chased for Cetkovska, who won far more games than me - says Ana. - I have sinned in the important moments, whether it was due to spasm, or because I saw a chance to make a point faster than it should have, but I ended points, but I sent the ball into the net.

Ivanovic tried to encourage myself by frequent outbursts of emotion on the field, but even that is not issued.

- Such things can help a player, of course, only if they are not in terms of destructive emotions. Disburden I was yelling and it was easier to play after such gestures.

Following a day of rest for Ivanovic, who will spend "as far from vimbldonskog complex".

- I will not be anywhere near Wimbledon. I need a vacation, which I used to walk around town with his family. There is also my manager, Dan Holcman, whom I have not seen, so I'll use the opportunity to tell him that - said Ana.

Ivanovic remains still in London waiting for the second round of the doubles in tandem with Andrea Petkovic.

- We have an aggressive game, unlike most couples. The following match against Petrova and Rodionov, which will be different from the first round, but we are entering the field to win. Nice to get on, do not put pressure on each other, which is important in doubles, and how uigravamo, we all dangerous - concludes our player

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:335633-Vimbldon-Ivanovic---Cetkovska-uzivo

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 08:02 PM
I'm not sure about Ana's quotes.. I honestly don't know what effect this will have on her. It certainly looks like it wasn't as tough a loss as I thought it could be. :shrug:

fANAtic
Jun 25th, 2011, 10:53 PM
Nobody noticed in the article how she says she hasn't seen Holzman for a long time? What is he doing about her career anyway?

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 11:24 PM
Nobody noticed in the article how she says she hasn't seen Holzman for a long time? What is he doing about her career anyway?

Ana's management is as inept as it can be.

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 11:37 PM
Did Ana only talk to serbian media?

Ana's silence not golden
FORMER world No.1 Ana Ivanovic risks a fine after tumbling tamely out in silence at the hands of unseeded Czech Petra Cetkovska.

The Serbian beauty was beaten in straight sets, and was in no mood to talk about it.

She failed to show up for her interview and could now face a penalty.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/nol_sport/tennis/1334072/Champions-League-final-Woz-a-real-tonic-for-Caroline.html

fANAtic
Jun 25th, 2011, 11:41 PM
Did Ana only talk to serbian media?



http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/nol_sport/tennis/1334072/Champions-League-final-Woz-a-real-tonic-for-Caroline.html
For some reason I find this encouraging. She wasn't in the mood to talk more rehearsed bs. She's much more open with Serbian media.

gaviotabr
Jun 25th, 2011, 11:48 PM
For some reason I find this encouraging. She wasn't in the mood to talk more rehearsed bs. She's much more open with Serbian media.

Maybe... I still find it a bit strange.. Go figure.

gaviotabr
Jun 26th, 2011, 12:43 PM
Ana real team, no time for love
26th June 2011. | 08:07 | Source: SPORTSKE.NET

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Serbian tennis player received yesterday's defeat calmly. Fully dedicated to tennis, is looking for people for your team. It remains doubles ...
Ana says that she played badly at times.

"I was not served ritern, lacked explosiveness. All the time I chased a result, has failed," said Ivanovic.

He adds that the firm is determined to return to the top and that is totally focused on tennis.

"I have no time for boyfriends and suitors, I am fully committed to tennis," she said Serbian player.

The following changes to the coaching staff.

"Will bring together a strong team, I need more faith in the people we work with. I am looking for a coach, but also specialists who will take care of the condition. I need advice and a plan, not to solve some of the load situation on the ground," explained Ana Ivanovic, who returns to the field for five weeks on the U.S. courts.

http://www.sportske.net/vest/tenis/ana-pravi-tim-nema-vremena-za-ljubav-44908.html

gaviotabr
Jun 26th, 2011, 01:00 PM
I hope she takes this time now to really put together a strong team. A choose them right.

It's sad that she had to wait 6 months of trying something that had no other possible result but a major fail before realizing that.. but I guess better late than never. I hope she is able to get a plan as she says.. not only for this year, but also for the next. 2012 is a big tennis year, with Olympics and all, and Ana should try to give herself the best chance to finally have a successful year after 3 very tough ones. The end of 2011 should be about getting her physical and mental shape up and her game back together, and taking some good momentum into 2012. Really taking it..

Let's see what happens... Ana has a mini off season now.. 1 month off. A lot can be done.

HowardH
Jun 27th, 2011, 01:05 AM
I have a question for Howard. He was mentioning burning calories. We see tennis players playing long matches etc. How is it possible that there are over weight girls in tennis? Guys are not over weight, but there are girls that are fat in fact? Oudin, Bartoli, Kleybanova :help: :help: :help: How is that possible? They are pro athletes, how is it possible to be a pro and have that fat belly?

It just means that they are eating just as many calories as they are burning off. It's surprisingly easy to do. A single Burger King whopper has the same amount of calories as around 10 miles of running.

Also, remember that they get hungry after exercise. It's really easy to stay at the same weight, because the more you exercise the hungrier you get (in general, although there are exceptions, sometimes running can get your blood sugar up and make you less hungry- it's quite an individual thing). It's hard to lose weight. You have to eat less than you feel like eating. People who have achieved very low bodyfat levels almost always say the same thing- you can't outtrain your diet. Much easier to avoid junk food than to eat it and try to burn it off.

Remember also that most of the calories your body burns comes from the basic metabolic rate- the main life systems in the body. 70% of calories are burnt in this way, 10% go towards body heat and digestion, and only around 20% is from exercise. You can increase that exercise number a bit of course, but it's way easier to decrease your intake. Ideally you do both, because if you lose weight without exercising your body will lose its muscles. This is also the reason why some people - mostly guys in their twenties or teens- can eat a lot and barely exercise, and remain slim. Their basic metabolic rate burns a lot of calories, even if they do nothing.

I would guess that the more plump female players are breaking even in term of calories burned and calories eaten during a day- the same as everyone else, the same as the really fit players. But at some stage in their life they were not burning enough, or eating too much more likely, and they have not had an equivalent period of time where they were burning more than they were eating in order to lose that fat.

Thanks. Here's what I wrote in the Off topic thread:

I'm not a beginner when it comes to push ups and pull ups, but I need a more advanced program to grow some more muscle and I would especially want to do something about my scrawny legs. It's almost Simon situation.

Ok Howard, I need a program to get bigger. I'm skinny, especially in the lower body. Bodyweight exercises are preferred.

Hmm. There is no real cookie cutter solution for that, although there are basic principles. I think we need to discuss how you currently train so that we can identify what needs to be tweaked to get the results you want. Maybe you just need a change to break a plateau.

Could you tell me what your current program consists of? Since you want to get bigger I presume you are a guy. Are you getting stronger in your upper and lower body? How often do you train? How well are you sleeping and eating? How strong are you? Do you know your max squat, deadlift, etc? How many push ups, pull ups, dips can you do? What is your bodyweight? Are you trying to increase it, and if so is it working? Or are you trying to lose bodyfat at the same time? How much sport do you play? There are so many possible reasons for not getting results. Some people don't train with enough weight, others are not getting enough rest or eating enough. Some people train with conflicting goals (losing bodyfat and gaining muscle is a very common one- beginners and some other people can do it but many will get stuck if they try to do both at once).

By the way, how athletic are you? Are you a fast/slow sprinter, good/poor jumper? Would you say your legs are a bit weak or reasonably strong despite not being big?

The basic principles are that you need adaptive stress and resources to get bigger muscles. The muscles need a signal that they need to get stronger- i.e. they need to be struggling to do whatever you try to do in training- and you need to have enough food, protein etc for the body to build those muscles. Many people say that the best results for getting bigger muscles occur in the 8-12 or 10-15 rep range, depending on which research you read. 5 reps or less increases strength with a small amount of muscle increase, while 15+ reps tends to increase endurance while not encouraging much muscle growth.

You say you want to get bigger... so your goals are mostly cosmetic? Like bodybuilding? Is that the priority for you more than getting stronger and faster for a sport? Just wanting to clarify it. Anyway, if you get very strong in the legs it will be almost certain your legs will get bigger, especially if you are a guy (our male hormones help us to grow muscle).

It may be hard to achieve the results you want with bodyweight exercises, if you are someone who has difficulty growing muscles. Why do you prefer bodyweight exercises? Convenience? You don't have access to weights? But it does depend how strong you are to start with. If you aren't strong enough to do a single leg pistol squat, then you can add some leg muscle by training for that. Also, there are improvised solutions like having a friend piggy backing on your back and squatting with them, if you have no weights.

Without knowing that much about you yet, if you had access to everything, I would recommend squatting and deadlifting to build stronger leg muscles. I would spend a few weeks at higher reps (8-12) to build strength endurance and break it up with a few weeks at lower reps to gain maximum strength (5 reps, near maximum weight). Maybe do a few warmup sets at lighter weights, then 3 sets of squats, 3 sets of deadlifts. I would recommend training legs twice a week, no more than 3 times, with 48 hrs at least between sessions. Try to add 1kg to the bar each week, or at least every second week. (If you find you cannot execute the planned reps with the extra weight, stay at that same weight until you can.) Try to eat within a couple hours of training. It's actually in these rest sessions that your muscles grow.

But really, I think we need to know more about exactly how you currently train. If you absolutely must have bodyweight only exercises tell me and and we'll think of something. There are many single leg bodyweight exercises that are quite challenging, and even more so if you have some small weights around.

http://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2011&mm=06&dd=25&nav_id=521344

http://www.sportske.net/vest/tenis/ana-pravi-tim-nema-vremena-za-ljubav-44908.html

Hmm, I suppose it might be good that she's upset and did not want to talk to the media. One thing that concerns me is the way she talks about needing to have more faith in her team. While this is true, Ana tends not to trust her team. Well, she doesn't really commit herself to a team. The more someone offers advice or critiques what she is doing, the more likely she seems to be to dump them. Trust requires that your team tells you the truth. But they have to believe that they can tell you the truth without getting fired. Ana needs to put her trust into a team and really work together with them. Because to be honest, her recent results are far more her own fault than her team's fault. And the problems with her team have come about because of her own decisions.

Put it another way. I would guess that Ana has more "faith" in the Adidas Development Program than she should have, and not enough faith in many other people who worked with her. She isn't good at judging who she should and shouldn't trust, who is working in her best interests etc. And I am not sure what would be required to earn her trust as a coach or trainer. Even her childhood friend couldn't do it and I guarantee she was doing her best to help Ana. She needs more than faith. She needs to commit to whatever team she chooses. I don't think there is a magical team that can solve her issues, and she needs to see that too. All she needs is to commit herself to a group of people who will work together with her towards her goals. I just get the funny feeling that she's looking for a "magical" team that will magically fix everything for her.

I am pleased that she has decided that for the moment tennis is her priority above all else.

She is absolutely right that the return was a killer for her. She has to improve that. Maybe get some guys to serve to her- they don't even have to be top 300. They'll have a much better serve than she'll face on the wta.

Cajka
Jun 27th, 2011, 10:06 AM
I am pleased that she has decided that for the moment tennis is her priority above all else.

She is absolutely right that the return was a killer for her. She has to improve that. Maybe get some guys to serve to her- they don't even have to be top 300. They'll have a much better serve than she'll face on the wta.

Great post, I can't quote the whole post, it would be huge, but it's really good.

About return. There's one thing that made me really angry at her. All she was doing against Petra was serving great and trying to make a winner from return, since you can't make a return winner every time, she couldn't break. She didn't want to play long points, she wanted to kill the ball instantly. Petra's serve is OK, but it's not that good, Radwanska broke that serve 100 times. Ana just wasn't patient, wasn't prepared, her behavior was really immature, I was disappointed. Hitting with a guy is a good idea, 'cause it could make her a bit more self confident, but I don't think that returning male serve is a problem for her, we saw that she's able to kill it (Hopman cup :devil:). Maybe she needs someone with tricky serve like Djokovic, his serve is not too strong, it's just really tricky.

HowardH
Jun 27th, 2011, 01:31 PM
Great post, I can't quote the whole post, it would be huge, but it's really good.

About return. There's one thing that made me really angry at her. All she was doing against Petra was serving great and trying to make a winner from return, since you can't make a return winner every time, she couldn't break. She didn't want to play long points, she wanted to kill the ball instantly. Petra's serve is OK, but it's not that good, Radwanska broke that serve 100 times. Ana just wasn't patient, wasn't prepared, her behavior was really immature, I was disappointed. Hitting with a guy is a good idea, 'cause it could make her a bit more self confident, but I don't think that returning male serve is a problem for her, we saw that she's able to kill it (Hopman cup :devil:). Maybe she needs someone with tricky serve like Djokovic, his serve is not too strong, it's just really tricky.

I'm glad you liked my post.

It's true that she was unable to change to a consistent style return. In the tb she completely went for silly return winners, even when it became obvious she did not have the rhythm to do so.

I understand that you're kind of joking about it, but an odd return winner doesn't prove anything to me. I am sure that she cannot return a decent male serve with any consistency, especially on a surface like grass. I'm not sure any woman could, even Azarenka, who is probably the most consistent returner now. There is a possibility that Ana could hit a great return on occasion on a slower surface like Australia's rebound ace or plexicushion (it's very slow for a hard court), but I still don't think so on a regular basis. In fact, I don't think Ana can return any serve with decent pace and placement with consistency- which has been her problem recently. She can hammer weaker serves, but if the server can serve decently her return will become extremely erratic and she will give away far too many free points. I would be very confident serving to her myself. You don't try to actually directly overpower a woman when you serve to her, you serve fast but well placed and take advantage of their slower movement to the ball. (Guys who try to directly overpower them are the ones who have the most difficulty, but experienced players figure it out quite quickly- women have a much slower first step and acceleration in general, but can hit surprisingly hard with their flat shots off the ground- the true weaknesses are their own serves and their movement which can be exploited with well placed serves and spinning topspin groundstrokes. Those who try to hit hard are also normally quite erratic compared to a man.)

Let me put it another way. If you are a reasonably good guy player, maybe close to touring level, you regularly face big serves- 200kph or so. Or even if you aren't quite good enough to play pro yet, you may have a coach who did tour, and you face their serve regularly. When you face such massive serves on a day in day out basis you learn that you cannot take a cut at the return. You won't break them. You'll make one winner and miss three returns. Instead, you learn to use the pace of the serve and send it back deep. You need a lot of focus on controlling the contact point.

When I watch the women, I nearly always see them take massive windups on the return, and I'm always thinking "that would never work against a guy's serve- you'd miss 3 or 4 for every one you'd make". The women almost treat it like a standard groundstroke, but a return against a good serve is a totally different shot from a normal groundstroke. But they haven't learnt that because they don't usually face serves which come down so fast that it becomes obvious that they are missing far too many returns by taking a big hit at it. They get good payoff for the bigger swing against many women's serves. The men have a smaller swing on return, which they elongate if the serve is slower. It's much easier to elongate a short swing than to shorten a long one. In other words, facing a good male server is like getting a lesson in the importance of reducing the free points you give away. Well, if you are paying attention. If you aren't you'll just get annoyed that you are missing so many returns.

Of course, it's best to pick a guy who plays quite smart. Guys who are too physical in their play may give away too many free points themselves to take advantage of the situation against a woman. The correct strategy for a fairly good male player or top junior against most high level women players would be:
Serve fast but focus on placement rather than an extra 5mph.
Plenty of kick to the bh on second serves- women are not used to this normally.
Return solidly and focus on consistency on return- that way you will be not giving them many free points on their serves, while they will be giving you plenty on your own.
In a rally, don't try to directly overpower them but focus on opening the court with topspin and utilising their slower court speed.
Be consistent, and be ready to fend off quite a few flat shots in order to draw the error, especially when they are serving.
Utilise your faster court movement by running for everything.

For me, that part is not about building confidence. Match play confidence can only be built in her wta and slam matches anyway. Practice confidence doesn't count. I want her to face a guy who won't take it easy on her and will beat her regularly so she is forced to learn. A guy who tried to stop her from getting a single point would be ideal. You might need a guy who handles pressure well, because it feels weird psychologically playing a girl, although you have the physical advantage. Alas, I feel such a guy would be sacked quite quickly for negatively affecting Ana's "confidence".

If she did indeed face a guy who serves well, I would like Ana not to chip the return. She needs to learn how to hit a safe slightly topspun return of serve which uses the pace against a decent serve- on both sides. Only take a crack at a winner if the serve is weak enough. I don't think she will though. She'll always be very dangerous against slower serves if she can hit a fh though, so at least she'll beat up on some players who don't possess a strong serve or who serve poorly against her.

gaviotabr
Jun 27th, 2011, 02:29 PM
Hmm, I suppose it might be good that she's upset and did not want to talk to the media. One thing that concerns me is the way she talks about needing to have more faith in her team. While this is true, Ana tends not to trust her team. Well, she doesn't really commit herself to a team. The more someone offers advice or critiques what she is doing, the more likely she seems to be to dump them. Trust requires that your team tells you the truth. But they have to believe that they can tell you the truth without getting fired. Ana needs to put her trust into a team and really work together with them. Because to be honest, her recent results are far more her own fault than her team's fault. And the problems with her team have come about because of her own decisions.

Put it another way. I would guess that Ana has more "faith" in the Adidas Development Program than she should have, and not enough faith in many other people who worked with her. She isn't good at judging who she should and shouldn't trust, who is working in her best interests etc. And I am not sure what would be required to earn her trust as a coach or trainer. Even her childhood friend couldn't do it and I guarantee she was doing her best to help Ana. She needs more than faith. She needs to commit to whatever team she chooses. I don't think there is a magical team that can solve her issues, and she needs to see that too. All she needs is to commit herself to a group of people who will work together with her towards her goals. I just get the funny feeling that she's looking for a "magical" team that will magically fix everything for her.

I am pleased that she has decided that for the moment tennis is her priority above all else.

She is absolutely right that the return was a killer for her. She has to improve that. Maybe get some guys to serve to her- they don't even have to be top 300. They'll have a much better serve than she'll face on the wta.

Great post Howard.

In an interview in Birmingham, while describing the coach she was looking for, Ana said it had to be someone who was strong enough to go through with it and really commit. When I read that I though she has to realize that needs to come from her as well.

I do think one thing that makes things more complicated for Ana in the team hunting territory is that I'm not sure if Ana has it clear how her game should be. I don't think she has it completely clear. So if someone tells her to get considerably thinner, she trusts it to be good.. But when the first couple of bad results come, when it shows to have been a bad move for her, she just doesn't trust them at all anymore. If she had clarity of how things should be, she wouldn't have agreed with losing so much weight in the first place, and maybe they could have worked out a solution, a consensus. Also, without such clarity, she mostly chooses the people due to their names, not to the project that most suits her game. It's actually easy to lose trust fast like this, because you are not really sure of anything. And then she resorts to APDP because that still represents the part of her career she most had success. It's a collection of errors in perspective. When things just don't turn out exactly as she picture they would, falling from the sky for her, she loses faith in everything.. the team and herself. It shows in decisions and it shows in matches.

She has some time now to get a team together.. and I hope she chooses wisely.. picks people with the best idea for her game, not only by name.

About the return.. yeah, it killed her in the match. But I think mostly because she freaked out early in the 2nd game of the match when she returned 2 serves to the middle and saw Cetkovska hit 2 winners. After that she was always trying to do too much with the return, and obviously missing. She had to just keep getting them in, Cetkovska would eventually start missing, just like happened today against Lisicki. Ana couldn't keep calm.. at the first adversity she lost her mind there. Cetkovska was serving around 100 mph, which is a rather ordinary serve. So it's not only about returning strong serves, like guys serves. But she definitely has to work a lot on that.

Cajka
Jun 27th, 2011, 02:35 PM
The result of Serena's match was almost the same as the results of Ana's match, but Serena was fighting, trying to do something. In this moment Lisicki is probably the only player who serves better than Ana. It's a shame that can't even take the advantage of that great serve like Karlovic used to do. :lol: :help:

gaviotabr
Jun 27th, 2011, 02:50 PM
The result of Serena's match was almost the same as the results of Ana's match, but Serena was fighting, trying to do something. In this moment Lisicki is probably the only player who serves better than Ana. It's a shame that can't even take the advantage of that great serve like Karlovic used to do. :lol: :help:

Bartoli actually played very well. Cetkovska didn't... she took advantage of an opponent who couldn't have a rally with more than 2 shots, couldn't return serve and who would hit every put away into the net. :shrug:

Lisicki has such a week 2nd serve though. I was watching her today and her 2nd serves were not even averaging 80 mph.

HowardH
Jun 27th, 2011, 06:24 PM
About the return.. yeah, it killed her in the match. But I think mostly because she freaked out early in the 2nd game of the match when she returned 2 serves to the middle and saw Cetkovska hit 2 winners. After that she was always trying to do too much with the return, and obviously missing. She had to just keep getting them in, Cetkovska would eventually start missing, just like happened today against Lisicki. Ana couldn't keep calm.. at the first adversity she lost her mind there. Cetkovska was serving around 100 mph, which is a rather ordinary serve. So it's not only about returning strong serves, like guys serves. But she definitely has to work a lot on that.

My belief is that if you learn how to return big serves by using the pace but without resorting to chipping or taking a big cut at it- i.e. using a little topspin and the feel of solid contact- then you will always be able to return slower serves consistently using the same technique. Of course, if you want to kill the serve, you will have to take a bigger swing, but this more consistent technique- it's a little like a topspin volley but with a looser wrist and a follow through (so not like a volley, hard to explain)- will always be available for you to fall back on, with only minor tweaking required for slower serves. The only exception is very spinny serves like kick or twist serves, which require a different returning technique, but few girls have that serve, and Ana is tall anyway which partially negates the kick effect.

The result of Serena's match was almost the same as the results of Ana's match, but Serena was fighting, trying to do something. In this moment Lisicki is probably the only player who serves better than Ana. It's a shame that can't even take the advantage of that great serve like Karlovic used to do. :lol: :help:

Bartoli actually played very well. Cetkovska didn't... she took advantage of an opponent who couldn't have a rally with more than 2 shots, couldn't return serve and who would hit every put away into the net. :shrug:

Lisicki has such a week 2nd serve though. I was watching her today and her 2nd serves were not even averaging 80 mph.


Ana still has one of the best serves in the game. But I would still rank Serena's serve above hers, even a slightly rusty Serena. Serena's groundies let her down in the match, although she regrouped to fight like mad in the end. Serena definitely showed how tough it is to put her away even when she isn't in peak form. And Marion played magnificently.

Serena was beginning to find her form near the end. If she had survived the 2nd set I think her chance of defending the title would have been very good.

Petra C won in a different fashion- she understood exactly what Ana was struggling with, realised that the win was on, and exploited it calmly by reducing her own errors.

Sabine has always been doublefault prone so it's understandable that her second serve is a bit weak. She doesn't dare to go for too much normally.

gaviotabr
Jun 27th, 2011, 09:52 PM
My belief is that if you learn how to return big serves by using the pace but without resorting to chipping or taking a big cut at it- i.e. using a little topspin and the feel of solid contact- then you will always be able to return slower serves consistently using the same technique. Of course, if you want to kill the serve, you will have to take a bigger swing, but this more consistent technique- it's a little like a topspin volley but with a looser wrist and a follow through (so not like a volley, hard to explain)- will always be available for you to fall back on, with only minor tweaking required for slower serves. The only exception is very spinny serves like kick or twist serves, which require a different returning technique, but few girls have that serve, and Ana is tall anyway which partially negates the kick effect.

Yes, I agree. That's definitely something Ana needs to work on.

Ana still has one of the best serves in the game. But I would still rank Serena's serve above hers, even a slightly rusty Serena. Serena's groundies let her down in the match, although she regrouped to fight like mad in the end. Serena definitely showed how tough it is to put her away even when she isn't in peak form. And Marion played magnificently.

Serena was beginning to find her form near the end. If she had survived the 2nd set I think her chance of defending the title would have been very good.

Petra C won in a different fashion- she understood exactly what Ana was struggling with, realised that the win was on, and exploited it calmly by reducing her own errors.

Sabine has always been doublefault prone so it's understandable that her second serve is a bit weak. She doesn't dare to go for too much normally.

Petra C didn't really have to reduce errors.. she barely had a chance to miss a shot. Ana would miss a simple put away first. :tape:

Sabine's 2nd serve does make her a bit vulnerable though. If she doesn't get enough first serves in and the opponent is opportunistic, should be able to beat her.

I think what cost Serena the match was that failed attempt at a drop shot while a mini break up in the tie break. A FH DTL would have won her the point, but she netted the drop shot. I'm sure she would have the advantage in a 3rd set. Serena should be a big contender for the USO. To be out for so long, with life threatening disease, she was playing some good tennis. Her groudstrokes failed her a little today, some gifts to Bartoli with easy balls out, but she was getting more rhythm and precision by the end of the match, as you say. With more practice and matches under her belt, she should be playing top notch tennis pretty soon.

Cajka
Jun 27th, 2011, 10:04 PM
I think what cost Serena the match was that failed attempt at a drop shot while a mini break up in the tie break. A FH DTL would have won her the point, but she netted the drop shot. I'm sure she would have the advantage in a 3rd set.

That is true. And it proves something too. It's not that Serena is such a mental giant who always does the right things in the right moments. She can make big mistakes in crucial moments too. It's just that most of the players don't take an advantage of her weaknesses. They choke. And Marion did not. :worship:

gaviotabr
Jun 27th, 2011, 10:14 PM
That is true. And it proves something too. It's not that Serena is such a mental giant who always does the right things in the right moments. She can make big mistakes in crucial moments too. It's just that most of the players don't take an advantage of her weaknesses. They choke. And Marion did not. :worship:

Actually.. being one whole year out.. It amazed me how strong mentally Serena was. The way she fought off all those MPs. This was just her 6th match since Wimbledon last year. And she made one single mistake when things got tight.

But yeah.. I'm finding Bartoli very clever in her interviews. She said a couple of things that stuck out for me. Marion said Serena is very imposing, so she created her own bubble, only for herself. I do agree lots of players see Serena as so imposing and faulter. Marion did great and showed how strong mentally she is when she missed all those MPs, but didn't back down at all. Kept going, kept fighting. I read somewhere that maybe the most mentally strong player this year has been Bartoli, and I think there is some truth to it. The way she turned around her last 2 matches and how she beat Serena today, she showed a lot of mental strength and resilience. Very impressive.

Cajka
Jun 27th, 2011, 10:36 PM
Actually.. being one whole year out.. It amazed me how strong mentally Serena was. The way she fought off all those MPs. This was just her 6th match since Wimbledon last year. And she made one single mistake when things got tight.

But yeah.. I'm finding Bartoli very clever in her interviews. She said a couple of things that stuck out for me. Marion said Serena is very imposing, so she created her own bubble, only for herself. I do agree lots of players see Serena as so imposing and faulter. Marion did great and showed how strong mentally she is when she missed all those MPs, but didn't back down at all. Kept going, kept fighting. I read somewhere that maybe the most mentally strong player this year has been Bartoli, and I think there is some truth to it. The way she turned around her last 2 matches and how she beat Serena today, she showed a lot of mental strength and resilience. Very impressive.

Of course, Serena can't play her best tennis after all that happened to her, but just remember USO final against Jankovic. Jelena had the chances, but she wasn't able to take them just because she choked. Many players choke against her. The same thing happen to players who play against Nadal and Fed.

gaviotabr
Jun 29th, 2011, 10:07 PM
Just saw this.. it's not exactly about Ana, but mentions her.

More chaos with British tennis as Sears joins the LTA exodus
By MIKE DICKSON
Last updated at 10:45 PM on 29th June 2011

The father of Andy Murray's girlfriend will today throw the beleaguered LTA into turmoil by walking out on the organisation.
Nigel Sears, 54, the LTA's most senior coach and head of women's tennis, is understood to have become tired of the non-stop politics.
His 23-year-old daughter Kim has been dating Murray since September 2005.
The respected Sears, who has overseen some encouraging progress over the past three years, is quitting to take a high-profile job coaching on the main WTA tour.
He is believed to have recently turned down the opportunity to coach former French Open champion Ana Ivanovic.
His departure is another huge setback to the regime of Roger Draper which, five years in, is shedding key staff and showing no sign of any sustained upturn in fortunes.

Earlier this year he lost his overall performance director, Belgian Steve Martens, who has yet to be replaced.
Next month his most senior lieutenant, commercial and communications chief Bruce Philipps, is leaving.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2009656/WIMBLEDON-2011-Nigel-Sears-joins-LTA-exodus.html#ixzz1QhlgXtTs

So.. it says Nigel Sears is leaving LTA to take on a high profile coaching job on the WTA, but that he turned down the opportunity to coach Ana. Which other high profile coaching job is there nowadays in the WTA? I remember him being among the possible coaches at the end of last year.

Marilyn Monheaux
Jun 29th, 2011, 11:05 PM
^^Does Wozniacki have a fulltime coach besides her dad? Maybe Bepa or JJ? :scratch:

gaviotabr
Jul 1st, 2011, 03:36 PM
Ivanovic hires coach Nigel Sears away from LTA
Ticker - Thursday, June 30, 2011


Ana Ivanovic has hired Nigel Sears to be her coach. Sears will step down as the head of women’s coaching for the Britain’s Lawn Tennis Association (LTA). Sears also coached former Top 10 players Amanda Coetzer and Daniela Hantuchova, and is the father of Andy Murray’s longtime girlfriend, Kim. Ivanovic has known Sears for a couple of years. "I couldn’t be happier," Ivanovic said in a statement. "I’ve admired Nigel for some time now, and I can’t wait to start working with him on court. It was important that I waited for the right coach, and we are both excited about the challenges ahead."

Both parties are said to anticipate a long-term relationship. It is likely that Sears signed a long-term contract and is making at least what he was at the LTA, as he has a family. Ivanovic has repeatedly said this year that she wanted a long-term commitment from a coach, after she was unable to secure one from Heinz Gunhardt last year and recently was unable to convince adidas Player Development coach Darren Cahill to spend more time with her.

The former No. 1 has been through a series of personal changes over the past seven months. After Gunhardt declined to become her full-time coach because he wanted to retain his television work and spend time with his family, she hired coach Antonio van Grichen, the former tutor of Victoria Azarenka and Vera Zvonareva, but they parted ways after just two months in February. The 2008 Roland Garros champion also parted ways with her physical trainer and childhood friend, Marija Lojanica, in March. TENNIS.com has also learned that she has parted with her hitting partner, Oliver Morel. She and Sears will collaborate in finding her a new physical trainer, but she will not hire a full time hitting partner, instead employing different people throughout the upcoming U.S. summer hard court season.

Ivanovic is currently on vacation and will begin to work with Sears upon her return in a couple of weeks. She is scheduled to play Stanford, San Diego, Toronto and Cincinnati prior to the U.S. Open. Petra Cetkovska upset the 18-seeded Ivanovic in the third round of Wimbledon.

Outside of adidas coaches Sven Groenfeld and Cahill, Ivanovic has worked with five private coaches since 2006: Zoltan Kuharsky, David Taylor, Craig Kardon, Gunthardt and van Grichen. Sears spent four-and-a-half years at the LTA and was also captain of Great Britain's Fed Cup team. During his tenure, five British women broke into the Top 100, two made the Top 50 and two teens—Laura Robson and Heather Watson—won junior grand slams. The LTA has not only lost Sears, but performance director Steve Martens recently quit. Commercial and communications chief Bruce Philipps is also leaving the organization next month.

http://tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=12999&zoneid=25

gaviotabr
Jul 1st, 2011, 03:44 PM
The article says Ana will collaborate with Sears in finding her a new fitness coach. Is this the coaching team then? I would hope she also gets a physio. She needs to do everything she can to keep herself healthy.

18majors
Jul 1st, 2011, 04:33 PM
^...and she needs to do it quick. She only has another 5-6 peak years.

VALUNA
Jul 6th, 2011, 08:48 AM
http://www.anaivanovic.com/news/ana-named-most-successful-woman-serbia

18majors
Jul 6th, 2011, 12:30 PM
Ana's popularity in Serbia is unquestionable. She needs to reward Serbia with more tennis successes.

gaviotabr
Jul 19th, 2011, 10:46 PM
Press exclusively for Ana Ivanovic: I want to be the best again


Text: Press


Although she is only 24 years, Ana Ivanovic has undergone a rocky road to the stars and back.

Serbian tennis player in his dizzying ascent crowned the title at Roland Garros and the first position in the WTA 2008th year. Then, in the next season, when expectations were highest first appeared problems in the game, and the season for the first time in four years ended below the top 20 Nothing more was not last year, when after Wimbledon dropped to 64th place. Still, 2011. year will bring better results and show that Anne can again be that old. Fluctuates much less in the game, and hiring of quality professionals in its headquarters to announce a new attack on the tennis top.
Continue working with children
For several years, UNICEF Ambassador you. Do you plan some new activities?

- Unfortunately, this year I spent very little time in Belgrade, but I hope to stay the next time spend more time with children from Unicefovog "School without Violence".

Holidays in Majorca
How was your vacation? Where have you spent the summer and with whom?

- I spent the holiday at his home in Majorca with his brother and some friends. Every year we discover something new in this beautiful island.

In the first interview with a Serbian newspaper after some time, Ana Ivanovic reveals that extremely pleased with the beginning of cooperation with a new coach Nigel Sirsi and returnee Scott Barnes, an expert on fitness.

You recently got a new coach Nigel Sears, and now a new fitness Scott Barnes. How do you feel now and what do you expect from this cooperation?

- I am very pleased. The whole team is positive. Goes well and we are all ambitious. However, we will need some time to get all the spies. With Nigel and Scott plan to cooperate long time and I know that it would take perhaps six months before you get real results. I have to be patient.

Competition in the women's tennis has never been more balanced. What is your thinking about the rival of the top ten and, in your opinion, what you are missing at this point to return to the top?

With a new team to new success ... Ana Ivanovic will try to return the list to the first position player in the world with the help of Nigel Sirsa and Scott Barnes.

- There are plenty of good players and competition is fierce. Nobody dominates every week someone else wins the tournament. As for me, to return to the top I have to find the right rhythm. Self-confidence is improving, but it is necessary to avoid oscillations and to go out victorious from tough matches. This year I played some great matches, but that's not enough, I have every week to play at a high level.

You were with Novak Djokovic at the Hopman Cup earlier this season when he started this fantastic series. Have you guessed then that could happen to such a rise and will reach Novak to reach number one?

- I have always believed that Novak will make a great success, very talented and believes in himself. The Hopman Cup I realized that and his entire team and I am very relaxed Novak and know how to have fun, while at the same time working hard. Among other things, and it is very important to achieve success. I'm not surprised that Novak was number 1, he fully deserves, but I think that nobody expected, not even I Novak, that within six months of losing only one match. This is great.

Novak said in their statements about their relationship with you since the early days. Mention is playing tennis in an empty pool while bombs were falling. Are you then able to assume that someday you will both be on the first places in the WTA and ATP rankings?

- We dreamed about it and had the support of their parents. I think we are both very persistent and it has helped us to achieve our goals. Of course, that's it then seemed like an unattainable dream. But later, perhaps around our 18th year, we saw that we still have the greatest chance of success.

What kind of ambition you enter the rest of the season? Next in line is the American tour, will you build a form, so to be at its peak in early September when the U.S. program open?

- Certainly the most important U.S. open tournament in the future the aim is then to be in the best possible shape. However, it is unrealistic to expect to be in his top form in September, due to the fact that I just started working with a new team. I do not set deadlines for itself, I just want to avoid injury and work hard. If they succeed, the results will not fail, either this, or next season.

http://sportservis.pressonline.rs/wsw/index.php?p=90&ni=24637

I think it's a good interview. Very down to earth and realistic.. I do hope though that her knowing she might have to wait to reach a point she can actually be on her top form doesn't prevent her from taking a big chance if it presents itself. I also hope se accepts she needs to work on her mental game, and it's not just a matter of getting the right rhythm.

But well.. nice to see confirmation from her own words that she has a long term plan in place with Nigel and Scott.

Cajka
Jul 19th, 2011, 10:59 PM
http://sportservis.pressonline.rs/wsw/index.php?p=90&ni=24637

I think it's a good interview. Very down to earth and realistic.. I do hope though that her knowing she might have to wait to reach a point she can actually be on her top form doesn't prevent her from taking a big chance if it presents itself. I also hope se accepts she needs to work on her mental game, and it's not just a matter of getting the right rhythm.

But well.. nice to see confirmation from her own words that she has a long term plan in place with Nigel and Scott.

Yeah, I read the original, it's good but the title is awful ("I'll be #1 again"... she didn't say that :o), but the people didn't read the whole interview so there were some comments like: "Ana, shut up and start practicing!" Well, I understand them, they are sick of her delusional statements. :lol:

gaviotabr
Jul 19th, 2011, 11:02 PM
Yeah, I read the original, it's good but the title is awful ("I'll be #1 again"... she didn't say that :o), but the people didn't read the whole interview so there were some comments like: "Ana, shut up and start practicing!" Well, I understand them, they are sick of her delusional statements. :lol:

:lol:

For one time she is all realistic they put that title! :spit:

Cajka
Jul 19th, 2011, 11:13 PM
:lol:

For one time she is all realistic they put that title! :spit:

The Press likes to put the title like that. It attracts the haters. They were the first in Serbia to write about that problem that supposedly existed between Sneki and Ana. It's kinda sad, 'cause the fanbases were anyway not exactly fond of each other. After that, it only got worse. :o They got an exclusive interview from her, they should treat her better. But, they need a sensational title. Also, I would like her to stop using the word excited. When you translate it to Serbian, you get the adjective "uzbuđena" and it sounds like... well, horny. :sad: :spit:

gaviotabr
Jul 19th, 2011, 11:17 PM
The Press likes to put the title like that. It attracts the haters. They were the first in Serbia to write about that problem that supposedly existed between Sneki and Ana. It's kinda sad, 'cause the fanbases were anyway not exactly fond of each other. After that, it only got worse. :o They got an exclusive interview from her, they should treat her better. But, they need a sensational title. Also, I would like her to stop using the word excited. When you translate it to Serbian, you get the adjective "uzbuđena" and it sounds like... well, horny. :sad: :spit:

:lol::spit:

VALUNA
Jul 20th, 2011, 07:24 PM
OMG, CETOJEVIC IN ANA'S TEAM !?

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:338757-Novakov-doktor-prelazi-kod-Ane

gaviotabr
Jul 20th, 2011, 07:35 PM
OMG, CETOJEVIC IN ANA'S TEAM !?

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:338757-Novakov-doktor-prelazi-kod-Ane

Wow...

Well.. I don't know if Cetojevic will work with Ana or not.. but why on Earth would Novak ever let him go? He obviously made a difference.

jelenacg
Jul 20th, 2011, 07:46 PM
WTF ??
Why would Novak stop working with him ??
Forget that, hire him Ana :angel:

gaviotabr
Jul 20th, 2011, 07:52 PM
WTF ??
Why would Novak stop working with him ??
Forget that, hire him Ana :angel:

:lol:

Yeah! Take him Ana!

If google translation isn't too off, Gavin's answer is quite curious. He says Ana wants her medical information to be kept for herself, so he won't comment on that? Humm...

jelenacg
Jul 20th, 2011, 08:07 PM
That`s exactly what he said but still i`m not sure what to think .This is first time i hear Novak even fired him and all of the sudden Ana hires him :shrug:
The only thing that`s sure is that he wasn`t at Novak`s celebration in Belgrade
I guess we`ll have to wait and see

Милан_СРБ
Jul 20th, 2011, 08:40 PM
WOW!!! That would be great!
I don't understand why would Novak fire a man who really helped him... I also didn't see Cetojevic at celebration in Belgrade, but I didn't even thought that Novak fire him!
I reeeally hope that is truth...
Novak and Ana are good friends, so maybe he renounced him because of Ana! :rolleyes: :)

18majors
Jul 20th, 2011, 08:41 PM
With a big team and a big payroll, Ana needs to get serious about winning.

Cajka
Jul 20th, 2011, 09:11 PM
The witch doctor in the team!!!! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo: This girl means business. Maybe Novak learnt everything about the healthy diet, so he decided to leave him to Ana.

doni1212
Jul 20th, 2011, 10:54 PM
Awesome if true!!

Cajka
Jul 20th, 2011, 11:00 PM
That witchcraft person must do something. I'm ready to get him myself a lock of Caro's hair or anything necessary. :devil:

jonnyroyale_13
Jul 21st, 2011, 12:54 AM
Can someone explain the story of the witchdoctor for me please? I dont follow the mens side and have no idea what youre all talking about.:help:

Cajka
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:12 AM
Can someone explain the story of the witchdoctor for me please? I dont follow the mens side and have no idea what youre all talking about.:help:

Novak used to have a lot of health problems, the lack of stamina, allergies etc. Supposedly, after hiring the doctor we were talking about, Novak's stamina became amazing, his allergy was gone, his confidence was :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: and all that thnx to some magic gluten free diet... And he said that it's not only that, but he doesn't want to reveal his magic secret. :spit: However, the magic secret has something to do with the witch person.

gaviotabr
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:22 AM
Cetojevic is a sort of all in one doctor. He does sports medicine, alternative medicine, psychology, nutrition.. He started to work with Novak a year ago and it obviously made a huge difference in both his mentality and his health.

It's worth it to check his website: http://www.docigor.org/

But people should calm down a bit I think. For now this is just a rumor.. it might end up not happening, so we have to keep our feet on the ground. Just wait and see.. if it happens, if it's confirmed, then we can celebrate. It would at least mean Ana is dead serious about giving herself the best chance of succeeding.

I think there might be something in this rumor, since Gavin didn't deny it... but that doesn't mean Cetojevic will end up working with Ana. :shrug: I think we need to keep cool.. wait and see.

Cajka
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:23 AM
My bf told me: "Wow, really, but how could he help Ana?" I was thinking about that and the only thing that crossed my mind are those awful 3setters and I remembered that during the W she admitted that she had a problem in rth sets, 'cause she felt weak and out of fuel. Of course, it doesn't explain how she can lose a 2nd set after leading, but maybe the lack of energy is the reason she couldn't fight in 3rd sets. She used to be a big fighter, remember her saving the mps in 3setters, the match against Dechy and lot of long matches. Who knows... Even if this is not true, I have a confidence in Scotty, he knows how to make Ana healthy and strong.

Cajka
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:27 AM
Cetojevic is a sort of all in one doctor. He does sports medicine, alternative medicine, psychology, nutrition.. He started to work with Novak a year ago and it obviously made a huge difference in both his mentality and his health.

It's worth it to check his website: http://www.docigor.org/

But people should calm down a bit I think. For now this is just a rumor.. it might end up not happening, so we have to keep our feet on the ground. Just wait and see.. if it happens, if it's confirmed, then we can celebrate. It would at least mean Ana is dead serious about giving herself the best chance of succeeding.

I think there might be something in this rumor, since Gavin didn't deny it... but that doesn't mean Cetojevic will end up working with Ana. :shrug: I think we need to keep cool.. wait and see.

T he only thing that makes me believe it's not just a rumor is the reputation of Novosti, as a daily newspaper. They're not some cheap magazine, but let's see.

gaviotabr
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:35 AM
My bf told me: "Wow, really, but how could he help Ana?" I was thinking about that and the only thing that crossed my mind are those awful 3setters and I remembered that during the W she admitted that she had a problem in rth sets, 'cause she felt weak and out of fuel. Of course, it doesn't explain how she can lose a 2nd set after leading, but maybe the lack of energy is the reason she couldn't fight in 3rd sets. She used to be a big fighter, remember her saving the mps in 3setters, the match against Dechy and lot of long matches. Who knows... Even if this is not true, I have a confidence in Scotty, he knows how to make Ana healthy and strong.

I think he could help is all sorts of ways. He is a doctor, so he could sort Ana's health out. Make her body stronger and less prone to injuries from a medical point of view, not only with strength training, which is Scott's job. I remember Ana often has some dizzy spells.. that can also be threated and avoided. Give her overall health balance.

He also has experience with psychology and mental training. I remember a Marca newspaper interview with Novak during Madrid Open in which he was asked about going to a psychologist. He said he didn't go to one, but his doctor would serve as such and helped him a lot with his belief and mental strength. That is something Ana definitely needs. Losing a match after being 6-0 3-1 up in 40 min is not due to lack of stamina.. that is what 1 average set takes. 40 minutes of play is really not a lot, even for unfit players. It is about fluctuations of concentration and difficulty to mantain focus. Once she faulters there, then comes doubt.. and then the match goes into struggle mode, which requires the stamina and energy she complained of not having. It shouldn't have got into that though.

There was a stat I saw that said a lot.. 11 of Ana's 15 wins this season came in under 1 hour. So there is a lot to be done that this doctor could help I think.

But again.. for now this is just a rumor.

gaviotabr
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:36 AM
T he only thing that makes me believe it's not just a rumor is the reputation of Novosti, as a daily newspaper. They're not some cheap magazine, but let's see.

Yeah.. I think there is something into it.. Maybe they are in negotiations.. But it's nothing until it gets confirmed.

jonnyroyale_13
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:40 AM
Oh, wow. Gluten free ..no thanks.:lol: I was always told to 'eat my wheaties'.:( Maybe it just wasnt good for Novaks body? But Izzy said hes a sort of all-in one doctor, so why not, maybe he can be a plus for Ana's team somehow.

Cajka
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:46 AM
I think he could help is all sorts of ways. He is a doctor, so he could sort Ana's health out. Make her body stronger and less prone to injuries from a medical point of view, not only with strength training, which is Scott's job. I remember Ana often has some dizzy spells.. that can also be threated and avoided. Give her overall health balance.

He also has experience with psychology and mental training. I remember a Marca newspaper interview with Novak during Madrid Open in which he was asked about going to a psychologist. He said he didn't go to one, but his doctor would serve as such and helped him a lot with his belief and mental strength. That is something Ana definitely needs. Losing a match after being 6-0 3-1 up in 40 min is not due to lack of stamina.. that is what 1 average set takes. 40 minutes of play is really not a lot, even for unfit players. It is about fluctuations of concentration and difficulty to mantain focus. Once she faulters there, then comes doubt.. and then the match goes into struggle mode, which requires the stamina and energy she complained of not having. It shouldn't have got into that though.

There was a stat I saw that said a lot.. 11 of Ana's 15 wins this season came in under 1 hour. So there is a lot to be done that this doctor could help I think.

But again.. for now this is just a rumor.

That dizziness was related to anxiety disorder. It was never confirmed, but since I suffer from that shit, it really reminds me of that, especially since she was able to continue the match after that.

If she's not able to finish the match that lasts longer than an hour, it's probably something that's related to her head, but it might be some physical issue also.

And this would be a great team. Her British coach who would make her work hard, an Australian fitness coach who's also a friend + a Serbian black magic person who could fix her body and mind. The Serbian mentality story is not just a stereotype, so a Serbian witch could understand her perhaps better than someone else + of course they speak the same language and it's easier to express the feelings using a mother tongue.

Of course, I'm just talking crap, but who knows...

jonnyroyale_13
Jul 21st, 2011, 01:48 AM
I think he could help is all sorts of ways. He is a doctor, so he could sort Ana's health out. Make her body stronger and less prone to injuries from a medical point of view, not only with strength training, which is Scott's job. I remember Ana often has some dizzy spells.. that can also be threated and avoided. Give her overall health balance.

He also has experience with psychology and mental training. I remember a Marca newspaper interview with Novak during Madrid Open in which he was asked about going to a psychologist. He said he didn't go to one, but his doctor would serve as such and helped him a lot with his belief and mental strength. That is something Ana definitely needs. Losing a match after being 6-0 3-1 up in 40 min is not due to lack of stamina.. that is what 1 average set takes. 40 minutes of play is really not a lot, even for unfit players. It is about fluctuations of concentration and difficulty to mantain focus. Once she faulters there, then comes doubt.. and then the match goes into struggle mode, which requires the stamina and energy she complained of not having. It shouldn't have got into that though.

There was a stat I saw that said a lot.. 11 of Ana's 15 wins this season came in under 1 hour. So there is a lot to be done that this doctor could help I think.

But again.. for now this is just a rumor.

Sounds like he can do a lot. Did he travel with Novak, or is he based in Serbia?

That dizziness was related to anxiety disorder. It was never confirmed, but since I suffer from that shit, it really reminds me of that, especially since she was able to continue the match after that.


Thats what i thought too.