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azdaja
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:38 PM
Well if you read comments about every other article you`ll see that we don`t like anyone :lol:
People don`t write comments bc they want to say something nice ,quite the opposite
You can`t form public opinion about someone based only on few comments on some websites
yeah, judging by the comments on this board we could conclude that ana is the most hated tennis player in the world. which kinda turns the reality upside down because we know how much she is supported wherever she goes ;)

Cp6uja
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:13 AM
To be fair, of all people which complain in Serbia about Ana FED CUP decision to escape match vs Canada, Dejan Vranes is only who have real reason to complain about this Ana decision without consulting him :shrug:.

All others should just to shut-up. Ana sacrifice hers 9-16 seeds status at AO representing Serbia at Hopman Cup early this month (which is worse she destroyed her preparation with that injury) and in hers schedule is obvious pause between Miami and start of claycourt season where be much important FC ties for Serbia than this vs Canadian half-amateurs playing in Serbia, which for sure not need Ana, Jelena and Bojana all-together.

Nena_xxx
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:26 AM
To be fair, of all people which complain in Serbia about Ana FED CUP decision to escape match vs Canada, Dejan Vranes is only who have real reason to complain about this Ana decision without consulting him :shrug:.

All others should just to shut-up. Ana sacrifice hers 9-16 seeds status at AO representing Serbia at Hopman Cup early this month (which is worse she destroyed her preparation with that injury) and in hers schedule is obvious pause between Miami and start of claycourt season where be much important FC ties for Serbia than this vs Canadian half-amateurs playing in Serbia, which for sure not need Ana, Jelena and Bojana all-together.

Agree! Sad that people doesn't realise that... :rolleyes:

Cp6uja
Jan 28th, 2011, 10:48 AM
During current AO Ana is subject of couple questions/answers at pressers/interviews of some elite ATP players.

Q. It's been no secret that Ana has a crush on Roger. She always says that Roger is her favorite player to watch.
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: She has a crush on Roger?

Q. I think so.
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: But you said for sure. Was she sitting in my box?

Q. Yeah. Why was she in your box and supporting you and not...
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: A little bit of gossip. You want to hear that. No, Ana is my friend for since we were five. We know each other. She's been practicing here. She had the first round loss unfortunately, and she's been practicing because she goes to the tournament from here, from Melbourne next week. So she used the opportunity to come to the matches. She will come to the final. Great to see her there in the box. Great to have her support.

But I'm not going to answer the other question, because I really don't know. You have to ask her. Who is your favourite women's tennis player?

RAFAEL NADAL: Kim Clijsters, Ana Ivanovic and the Spanish players.

cocco80
Jan 28th, 2011, 11:14 AM
During current AO Ana is subject of couple questions/answers at pressers/interviews of some elite ATP players.


Rafa :hearts:

I have to put that in my siggy now.

gaviotabr
Jan 31st, 2011, 10:36 AM
Ana is going to play Marbella! WOW! Surprising..

Ivanovic y Azarenka, estrellas invitadas al Andalucia Tennis Experience
La tercera edición del torneo marbellí no coincidirá con la Semana Santa
31.01.11 - 12:12 -
PEDRO LUIS ALONSO

El Andalucía Tennis Experience encara ya su tercera edición camino de una lenta consolidación. La principal apuesta en organización de competiciones por parte de la Consejería de Turismo y Deportes de la Junta de Andalucía es este torneo tenístico del circuito WTA, que este ańo presenta como principales jugadoras invitadas a la serbia Ana Ivanovic y a la bielorrusa Victoria Azarenka.
La cita se ha presentado hoy en la sede en Málaga de Turismo Andaluz, con presencia del consejero, Luciano Alonso; la alcaldesa de Marbella, Ángeles Muńoz, y la directora del torneo, Conchita Martínez. El tercer Andalucía Tennis Experience se desarrollará entre el 2 y el 10 de abril, y por ello esta vez no coincidirá con la Semana Santa, lo que en ańos anteriores ha podido ser un inconveniente cara a la afluencia de aficionados a las pistas de tierra batida del Club de Tenis Puente Romano de Marbella.
El torneo, con una dotación de 220.000 dólares en premios, cuenta con un presupuesto de 1,8 millones de euros, y la organización parte de la Junta de Andalucía en colaboración con la empresa Octagon. Paralelamente al torneo femenino de tenis habrá una competición similar para jugadores en silla de ruedas.
Entre la participación confirmada para el cuadro final, de 32 jugadoras (cuatro invitadas y otras tantas clasificadas a través de la fase previa), hay que destacar a la que fuera número uno mundial Ana Ivanovic y a la 'top ten' Victoria Azarenka. Asimismo, ha confirmado su presencia la finalista de las dos últimas ediciones Carla Suárez.


http://www.diariosur.es/20110131/deportes/mas-deportes/ivanovic-azarenka-estrellas-invitadas-201101311212.html

gaviotabr
Jan 31st, 2011, 10:42 AM
I was expecting Ana to add a MM on clay.. but I honestly thought she would add Estoril or Barcelona. It's quite surprising that she chose to play Marbella, though they are likely to be the small tournament that pays more money for appearance fees. Serena, Kim and JJ have played in previous years.

It's surprising as well because it's the week following Miami, but maybe Ana is already foreseeing her usual early exit in Key Biscayne. :spit::lol::sobbing:

So, the schedule would look like this:

Pattaya
Dubai
Doha
week off
IW
Miami
Marbella
week off (Fed Cup is played this week. Wonder if Ana will play.)
week off (Sttutgart is played this week)
week off (Estoril/Barcelona are played this week)
Madrid
Rome
week off (Brussels is played this week)
RG

Marilyn Monheaux
Jan 31st, 2011, 05:15 PM
I was expecting Ana to add a MM on clay.. but I honestly thought she would add Estoril or Barcelona. It's quite surprising that she chose to play Marbella, though they are likely to be the small tournament that pays more money for appearance fees. Serena, Kim and JJ have played in previous years.

It's surprising as well because it's the week following Miami, but maybe Ana is already foreseeing her usual early exit in Key Biscayne. :spit::lol::sobbing:

So, the schedule would look like this:

Pattaya
Dubai
Doha
week off
IW
Miami
Marbella
week off (Fed Cup is played this week. Wonder if Ana will play.)
week off (Sttutgart is played this week)
week off (Estoril/Barcelona are played this week)
Madrid
Rome
week off (Brussels is played this week)
RG

:cheer: Yay! for Marbella! :cheer:
Ana never went far in Miami, so why would that change this year? :rolls:

I'm not sure if I'd rather want to see her take two weeks off after Marbella and then play Barcelona/Madrid/Rome, take another week off and then FO or if I want her to play Marbella, week off, Stuttgart, week off, Madrid & Rome, week off, FO... :scratch:
Taking a week off between tournaments could help her fix things that may not work during the tournaments, but having two weeks off could help her re-charge her batteries a little. :scratch:

gaviotabr
Jan 31st, 2011, 11:13 PM
:cheer: Yay! for Marbella! :cheer:
Ana never went far in Miami, so why would that change this year? :rolls:

I'm not sure if I'd rather want to see her take two weeks off after Marbella and then play Barcelona/Madrid/Rome, take another week off and then FO or if I want her to play Marbella, week off, Stuttgart, week off, Madrid & Rome, week off, FO... :scratch:
Taking a week off between tournaments could help her fix things that may not work during the tournaments, but having two weeks off could help her re-charge her batteries a little. :scratch:

I'm not sure what would be better either.. and then maybe she decides to play Fed Cup.. who knows? I'm surprise by the timing.. totally thought she would add Estoril or Barcelona. Maybe she won't add any other tournament on clay.. :shrug:

The 2nd Law
Jan 31st, 2011, 11:32 PM
MM GOAT.


Wish she was slam GOAT :(

gaviotabr
Jan 31st, 2011, 11:35 PM
MM GOAT.


Wish she was slam GOAT :(

Me too.. :sobbing:

InsideOut.
Feb 1st, 2011, 03:38 PM
Marbella is the 5th Slam. :shrug:

nestor_bgd
Feb 1st, 2011, 04:28 PM
Marbella is the 5th Slam. :shrug:
I thought Bali is the 5th slam. :confused:

McPie
Feb 2nd, 2011, 06:26 AM
I thought Bali is the 5th slam. :confused:

I only know Choke Slam :happy:

Pops Maellard
Feb 2nd, 2011, 09:49 AM
Marbella is the 5th Slam. :shrug:

Marbella is the 6th slam. The 5th slam is Copenhagen.

Cp6uja
Feb 13th, 2011, 05:44 PM
Ana is interviewed for famous French L'Equipe and main subject of that article (Ivanovic en cavalier seul (http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2011/20110213_134050_ivanovic-en-cavalier-seul.html)) is Ana's coach situation after she fire AvG.

Here is Google translation of this L'Equipe article:

Tennis - WTA
Ivanovic in alone
Ana Ivanovic has a new impetus to his career in 2011. New era, new perspectives and begin with more than coach.
Ana Ivanovic looks to the future without a coach. (EQ)

It's decided. Freshly separated from his coach Antonio Van Grichen, Ana Ivanovic will now without a coach. The former World No. 1 still seeking his best not travel more now unless we have a sparring partner and his physical preparation Marija Lojanica, his former school teacher. Target for Serbian: give free rein to his imagination tennis. "It's nice to have some kind of tactical plan or by entering the short but I feel that if I play well, regardless of my opponent, I win, says Ivanovic. That's why I do not stress with the tactics of the game "

But if the player recognizes the benefits that can make a coach, she said that sometimes it can make things more complicated than they actually are. "You always need someone to set up practices, someone to judge whether an hour of training is sufficient or if it takes an hour and a half to two hours. A coach feels it all, "she confesses. But sometimes it gets so technical that one forgets what one has to do. "

"I know I have to work hard and I do not need someone to remind me every day."

Serbia wants the pretty therefore give a break to his brain. For now, it does not seek an alternate remedy for the departure of Van Grichen and prefers to give time to see how things evolve. At 23, she thinks to know enough to do without the services of a coach. "I am a hard worker. At 14 or 15 years, have put up little routines and then we need someone to advise us and push us. But for me now I know what my goals. I know I have to work hard and I do not need someone to remind me every day. "Verdict imminent" Ana new version of "Ivanovic will make his first steps without a coach on court against Patty Schnyder in the first round of the tournament in Dubai. Sz.S

Mountain Ana
Feb 13th, 2011, 08:00 PM
Због свега тога Српкиња је одлучила да је боље да буде без тренера док не нађе неког ко је у потпуности разуме.

- Узела сам одмор и имам само спаринг партнера и једно време нећу тражити никога. Уздам се у себе и напоран рад јер са 14 и 15 година када тек тражиш рутину потребан ти је неко ко ће те гурати и говорити ти шта да радиш.



http://www.zurnal.rs/2011/02/13/ivanovic-uzdam-se-u-sebe/index.html

I know its on Serbian, but it saya that Ana is not going to search for another coach for some time :tape:
But she seems full of confidence :worship:

bruce goose
Feb 14th, 2011, 05:31 AM
Ana is interviewed for famous French L'Equipe and main subject of that article (Ivanovic en cavalier seul (http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2011/20110213_134050_ivanovic-en-cavalier-seul.html)) is Ana's coach situation after she fire AvG.

Here is Google translation of this L'Equipe article:Wow!This is the first time that I've really felt discouraged about Ana this year.I'm holding back full judgment b/c Ana deserves a chance to prove herself...to show that she truly CAN handle her business on her own without a coach.However,if she really already had that self-assurance within her,then why did she even bother hiring AVG in the first place???The quotes above remind me more of the false self-hyping Ana from 2009-early 2010 than the realist who confessed her problems and seemed to be working on them.....Let's hope that I'm as dead wrong about my perspective as I was about Pattaya:lol:

jonnyroyale_13
Feb 14th, 2011, 05:35 AM
Ana is interviewed for famous French L'Equipe and main subject of that article (Ivanovic en cavalier seul (http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2011/20110213_134050_ivanovic-en-cavalier-seul.html)) is Ana's coach situation after she fire AvG.

Here is Google translation of this L'Equipe article:

Same article again in English-

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/13/tennis-women-dubai-ivanovic-idUKLDE71C05R20110213

"It's nice when you have sort of a little bit of a plan and tactics when you go on the court, but also I feel that if I play well it doesn't matter against who I play, I'm going to win. And that's why I'm not so stressed about tactics," Ivanovic said ahead of the Dubai Championships which start on Monday.

:hearts:


"But sometimes it just becomes so technical that you forget what you're doing. If you start thinking about how you come down the stairs and think about how each muscle is working you can't go down the stairs. Anyway I'm a person who over-thinks and over-analyses everything, so if you give me one thought it creates a lot more.

"So now I'm just taking a break and having a sparring partner and I'm not trying to look for someone, and see how that goes.
Seems she found Van Grichen very frustrating.:lol: I dont like this way of looking at it, though. Almost sounds like shes making excuses for not wanting some help.
I think Ana needs to ask herself, what is it specifically that i am looking for out of a coach? The coach has to have some specific purpose for Ana.
She is confident about her tactics when she is playing well, I like that part.
The technical side though, to me that is all she needs out of a coach. Someone to keep an eye on her matches and practices, sort of like a watcher.
I want a coach that has done his homework , watched thousand's of hours of Ivanovic tape, knows what a properly working Ivanovic is supposed to look like, and accepts the fact that he/she isnt going to be creating anything new. No 'fixing' things that arent broken. Only doing the necessary maintenance to prevent the things that are already working well from becoming broken.
Apparently Ana has had enough and doesnt want a coach at all though.:eek:
I guess like Ana says, lets see how this goes.:unsure:

gloria7
Feb 14th, 2011, 05:04 PM
I'm trying to think of a reason to defend her decision not to have a coach,but i can't. She need a coach. This could be huge for her career and she is still very impulsive with her decisions.
Meh...Ana and Marija,the new "Thelma & Louise".

Vladiricky
Feb 15th, 2011, 10:00 AM
I guess Ana will play against Slovakia
http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:319203-Ivanovic-Igracu-za-Srbiju .... the only important information is that she's waiting for the call from Vranes.

gloria7
Feb 15th, 2011, 07:57 PM
And Vranes just said that he called already all girls,and they accepted to play against Slovakia.They(he and STA) found out that Ana wants to play too. However,STA had to go in public and say that Ana WAS invited to play against Canada,STA send an official invitation to Ana on december 17th,then again to Ana's management and Versi on january 6th(and once more to Ana).They blame Versi for not telling the truth and deciving the public in Serbia. They send Ana an e-mail,but no one called her on the phone,not even when she was injured in Perth. Versi,from the other hand,said couple of days ago,that Ana wasn't invited to play against Canada,that they didn't receive any call or invitation and that information in serbian media ( that Ana didn't want to call Vranes and say she wont play Fed Cup and that she didn't want to answer his calls)are not true. Shit continues...

Nena_xxx
Feb 15th, 2011, 08:28 PM
These statements from Vranes are so bad. And can't believe that they wanna make that whole nation hates her. Ana didn't deserve that. And Vranes is just becoming puppet which is controlled by Zivojinovic and Jankovic's mother.

gaviotabr
Feb 15th, 2011, 08:30 PM
I wonder what Van Grichen did to Ana to get her so traumatized.. she went from having the absolute need of a full time coach to not wanting one even if he was made of gold.

All this could've been avoided if she had reached some sort of an agreement with Heinz, who was the only coach who seemed to match her.

Anyway.. pretty obvious she won't get anywhere with this attitude.. and her tennis and mentality is going down the drain again. 2011 is shaping up to be even worse than 2009/10.. and the longer this goes on, the harder it gets for her to actually manage to get out of it for good. She obviously didn't do it at the end of the year as we thought.. she is still fragile about it all and anything can get her to suck even worse than before. Barely beating Craybas and losing to Patty and Vinci is pretty bad. And the attitude she shows is ever worse.

Maybe losing every match from now on until she sees she is wrong is the best for her. :shrug: Just a pity she (and us) have to go through it all again.

Tweedle
Feb 15th, 2011, 08:46 PM
And Vranes just said that he called already all girls,and they accepted to play against Slovakia.They(he and STA) found out that Ana wants to play too. However,STA had to go in public and say that Ana WAS invited to play against Canada,STA send an official invitation to Ana on december 17th,then again to Ana's management and Versi on january 6th(and once more to Ana).They blame Versi for not telling the truth and deciving the public in Serbia. They send Ana an e-mail,but no one called her on the phone,not even when she was injured in Perth. Versi,from the other hand,said couple of days ago,that Ana wasn't invited to play against Canada,that they didn't receive any call or invitation and that information in serbian media ( that Ana didn't want to call Vranes and say she wont play Fed Cup and that she didn't want to answer his calls)are not true. Shit continues...

The TSS is led by a bunch of cronies with Zivojinovic right at the top.They've done nothing to develop Serbian tennis for youngsters,still no National Tennis Centre.Every single member of the Davis Cup Team said they want them out but of course they were re-elected by plain fools(or else paid off fools):rolleyes: .I mean they couldn't even get Ana a D.Cup final ticket and left her sitting miles back in the stands,while they gave VIP tickets to whatever "friends" they wanted to give tickets to.The people running the TSS don't give a sh*t about Serbian tennis,they're all just feathering their own nests and scratching eachother's backs.Typical case of abuse of power

HowardH
Feb 16th, 2011, 05:48 AM
So... first ever loss to an Italian followed by first loss to Patty (who is hardly resurgent) since 2005.

Ana is showing now that she is clearly not a player who can play without a coach. Not yet anyway. She needs someone to help her. It is possible for a player to play without a coach, but Ana is not inspiring much trust in me.

In that article Ana essentially tried to blame her oncourt confusion on her coaches. However Ana makes odd decisions on court because, despite being physically gifted, she doesn't really have a tennis brain. She doesn't make smart oncourt decisions. I would love for her to develop this ability, but I doubt she will be able to do so without a coach advising her. Her coaches aren't confusing her- anything remotely complicated oncourt confuses her. Which is why she needs to keep the game simple. Serve hard, smack the forehand hard, move forward. In other words, she needs a coach to help clarify her normally confused tennis mind. The right coach. Heinz wasn't doing a bad job, but seemingly that partnership is over.

The way Ana puts it is "my natural state of mind oncourt is clear, and the coaches confused me." Whereas it actually should be "my natural state of mind oncourt is somewhat confused, and I need the right coach to help me see things clearly." She seems to now think that any coach would confuse her more, and does not believe that any coach could help her. This is ridiculous. There are many coaches, and some will be able to help her.

Possibly, as Izzy says, having terrible results will help her to realise she does need help.

Actually, as Cp6uja says, Ana (in theory, if she were more normal) should hardly need a coach. In GM he wrote:


But I dont agree that she needs good coach more than some random WTA player. Especially because for such power-hitter winning strategy should to be so simple and almost "brainless" and "one-dimensional" type of game.

However, Ana has shown that, somehow, she gets too confused on court to follow this simple plan. By comparison, Kvitova seems to hardly think on court at all and simply executes a clear, basic plan which utilises her strengths. Petra may still have bad losses here and there, but she's maximising what she has with her "brainless" plan. If she misses she loses, if she hits the winners she wins. But she sticks to her plan. Whereas for Ana any twist in the match can confuse her and make her doubt her gameplan, causing her to deviate from the plan.

The funny thing is Ana is clearly very intelligent, but not in a clear thinking way. She has an imaginative kind of intelligence, and on court she tends to imagine a lot of things.

gaviotabr
Feb 16th, 2011, 03:04 PM
So... first ever loss to an Italian followed by first loss to Patty (who is hardly resurgent) since 2005.

Ana is showing now that she is clearly not a player who can play without a coach. Not yet anyway. She needs someone to help her. It is possible for a player to play without a coach, but Ana is not inspiring much trust in me.

In that article Ana essentially tried to blame her oncourt confusion on her coaches. However Ana makes odd decisions on court because, despite being physically gifted, she doesn't really have a tennis brain. She doesn't make smart oncourt decisions. I would love for her to develop this ability, but I doubt she will be able to do so without a coach advising her. Her coaches aren't confusing her- anything remotely complicated oncourt confuses her. Which is why she needs to keep the game simple. Serve hard, smack the forehand hard, move forward. In other words, she needs a coach to help clarify her normally confused tennis mind. The right coach. Heinz wasn't doing a bad job, but seemingly that partnership is over.

The way Ana puts it is "my natural state of mind oncourt is clear, and the coaches confused me." Whereas it actually should be "my natural state of mind oncourt is somewhat confused, and I need the right coach to help me see things clearly." She seems to now think that any coach would confuse her more, and does not believe that any coach could help her. This is ridiculous. There are many coaches, and some will be able to help her.

Possibly, as Izzy says, having terrible results will help her to realise she does need help.

Actually, as Cp6uja says, Ana (in theory, if she were more normal) should hardly need a coach. In GM he wrote:



However, Ana has shown that, somehow, she gets too confused on court to follow this simple plan. By comparison, Kvitova seems to hardly think on court at all and simply executes a clear, basic plan which utilises her strengths. Petra may still have bad losses here and there, but she's maximising what she has with her "brainless" plan. If she misses she loses, if she hits the winners she wins. But she sticks to her plan. Whereas for Ana any twist in the match can confuse her and make her doubt her gameplan, causing her to deviate from the plan.

The funny thing is Ana is clearly very intelligent, but not in a clear thinking way. She has an imaginative kind of intelligence, and on court she tends to imagine a lot of things.

Spot on as usual Howard.

This actually feels like Deja Vu to me. Like.. she has done and said all this already in the past, and it was a big mistake that lead to awful results.. and she is doing it again. Why make the very same mistakes? Can't get it.

And not only that.. she is actually managing to have her worse beginning of the year ever. Outdoing herself in a negative way. All this after getting some form back at the end of the year.. which makes it more painful. She can also stop saying she is still young because she doesn't have a younger career anymore, and has spent more time sucking than playing well.

дalex
Feb 16th, 2011, 03:41 PM
You have Ana's ramblings interview after R1 loss here:
http://www.dubaidutyfreetennischampionships.com/News/Interview-Transcripts/Interview-Transcripts.aspx

Abdel
Feb 16th, 2011, 03:42 PM
I hope Ana will play Monterrey Open, she must continuous to play aggressively :bounce: she can absolutely improve in Doha.

bruce goose
Feb 16th, 2011, 05:07 PM
Spot on as usual Howard.

This actually feels like Deja Vu to me. Like.. she has done and said all this already in the past, and it was a big mistake that lead to awful results.. and she is doing it again. Why make the very same mistakes? Can't get it.

And not only that.. she is actually managing to have her worse beginning of the year ever. Outdoing herself in a negative way. All this after getting some form back at the end of the year.. which makes it more painful. She can also stop saying she is still young because she doesn't have a younger career anymore, and has spent more time sucking than playing well.Would like to add that Ana was VERRRY 'lucky' with her draws after AO,and that 'luck' didn't do jack sh-t for her--though,as I said before,the whole premise is EXTREMELY subjective.Someone might say that a man was lucky to only have partial paralysis due to a collision with a drunk driver...to which he could reply,"WTF!!If I had been LUCKY,that bastard would've stayed sober!"--back on track...Ana got a young Thai wildcard in the 1st Round of Pattaya...followed by ancient Craybas...and then her next two matches were against Ana Punching Bags,Vinci and Schnyder....The only more ideal opponents would've been Arvidsson or Dragana...and Ana still sucked

I'm actually more discouraged now than I was in the original stages of the Deeper Slump(2009-mid 2010).I held out hope that Ana would snap out of her golf monkey crap-induced coma someday and regain her yearning for tennis on an emotional level.....Now that she's reverting,I don't know what to think about her.Ana is like a person who was involved in a deadly car crash where 3 of her family members died...and yet keeps driving recklessly and moronically.THAT part is a real mystery to me right now:confused:

Cp6uja
Feb 16th, 2011, 10:07 PM
Dubai postmatch interview:


Q. How disappointing is that?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, it is very disappointing. I think I had lots of chances in the second set, and then the level just really dropped and a little bit struggled out there. But, yeah, I mean in the second set I created a lot of opportunities, and there were a lot of positive things in my game that I worked on in last, you know, really actually few days. It was good to put that into my match today. But just, yeah, I missed some opportunities in the second set, so, yeah, quite disappointed.

Q. You seemed to struggle with your serve at various stages, specifically the ball toss. That must have been frustrating. Was it the wind or were you not...
ANA IVANOVIC: No, actually, I felt my serve pretty good. You know, there were a few that got away from me, but it wasn't really the main issue. I just felt like in the third set in particular I could not accelerate anymore, you know. Kind of strength issues a little bit. Yeah, that, I felt, was more of a problem than really my serve. Actually, I think my serve was something that was holding me in that third set. My game was kind of missing few bits and pieces.

Q. I understand that you've come into this week without a full-time coach. You've just had like a sparring partner and a conditioning coach. Is that something you will look to revisit, or are you happy?
ANA IVANOVIC: No, I'm just really happy like this. It's going well. Yeah, it's been a quite a journey down that path with the coaches. At the moment, I'm just happy with the situation. Yeah, I have a really good sparring partner and good team with me, fitness coach. Just going to stick with it.

Q. So you're not going to hire a replacement?
ANA IVANOVIC: No, not for the moment. You know, I had interviewed a lot of coaches and I looked around a lot. Yeah, it's a little bit unfortunate, you know, the good ones really don't want to travel much or they're already committed. It's no point of forcing something with someone you just don't feel it's going to work. You try to work it out, but at the end, it comes back, you know, not really good. So it's better to just stick like this.

Q. Does that give you freedom where you've made your own decisions and it's down to you? Not conversing with a coach, does it make it a more mature situation?
ANA IVANOVIC: In a way it is really good. I feel a lot of coaches try to control and they try to take charge. But then again, sometimes you need someone who's going to say, No, you should practice a little more, or, This is fine. Someone who can actually judge how much is enough and can set up the practices. But then on the other hand, I already have so much experience. I don't need someone who's going to tell me what to do, because I know what I want to achieve and I know I have to work hard for it. Hard work is part of it, and I understand this. So I don't need someone to push me in that way. I just need someone to understand me as person and understand what I need, and someone who's going to be, you know, a little bit relaxed, because I'm such intense person. I'm such a perfectionist and I overanalyze everything, so I need someone who's just going to make sure I chill out a little. (Smiling.)

Q. On the flip side of the coin, is it not a disadvantage that other players are allowed to bring their coaches on during the game and sort of discuss, have a discourse about how the match is going, whereas you obviously are on your own, you only have your own thoughts?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, I have my sparring partner who can come on the court.

Q. Oh, right.
ANA IVANOVIC: But, you know, the thing is, first of all, in the bigger tournaments we are on our own. That's what we used to do for a long, long time. The on-court coaching only came about a few years ago.
But then at the other hand, most of the times when players do request for the coach, it's because they are anxious and a little bit nervous and they stop seeing things. That's when you call coach. You can chat and kind of relax a little bit and calm down. So, you know, to have sparring partner to do the same thing, it's fine.

Q. You obviously said you want to get back where you were in the women's game, top 10, potentially No. 1. Caroline Wozniacki earlier this week said that you could. I mean, that must give you sort of impetus going forward just to hear that. Do you put too much pressure on yourself in certain situations? Does it get to you in a situation like tonight, for example?
ANA IVANOVIC: Um, I mean, it does a little bit. But then, again, you know, I really strongly believe, you know, I can, you know, achieve that. And, you know, lots of people ask when it's going to happen or this or that. It's hard to say, you know. I really try to work hard, and I would like for it to happen obviously as soon as possible. But it's not always the way it goes. Yeah, you know, I really have to believe in myself and I have to make those changes. I have to kind of, you know, go through it again and reach what I want to reach. People are going to say they're going to support or not support you. In the end of the day, you're alone out there and you have to fight your own way. You can't really rely on what people are saying. You have to believe in yourself because you're on your own.

Q. So when you look at you were kind of coming back at the end the last year, and then at eh Australian Open you crashed out early and you had this disappointment. I mean, it's been kind of a difficult start to the year. How would you rate yourself at this point?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, I was really sorry the season ended when it did last year. I was in such a good shape. But, you know, it is tough beginning of the year for me, but I also have to look realistically. I did have a physical problem before Australian Open with my stomach injury, and I couldn't practice for two weeks.

Q. Oh, okay.
ANA IVANOVIC: So it is going to set you back a little. I'm still trying to get in shape from that and trying to work physically and also on court during the tournaments. Then you have to kind of also be fresh for your matches. So it is hard time to build up your game during the tournaments. And I need matches, so I need to play a lot of events. So it is kind of Catch 22. But I just to have to, like I said, I have to realize this and work hard through these tournaments. These kind of losses are tough, but you have to learn from them and kind of, you know, move on. And I accepted at these few tournaments I might not be at the top of my shape, but I'm going to work hard through it and kind of build up my strength and my game throughout the
tournaments.

Q. So your stomach injury has healed, but it's more or less building up your fitness?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, it is. Because, I mean, you do lose a lot. After my match in Melbourne, I still couldn't practice for a few days. I had to take time off because it wasn't healed enough. So, yeah, it is always going to hard. Like I said, you have to take off a little bit before the matches. So it's tough with the tournaments around, but then yet I need matches, you know. I think I do play well enough to get through the tournaments, so, yeah.

Q. Obviously since picking up the injury at the Hopman Cup your childhood friend Nole has won the Australian Open. Serbia are Davis Cup champions. Would you like to be a part of that sort of Serbian sport bubble at some stage? The country must be on a high tennis-wise at the moment.
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, definitely. It's been great last few months for Serbian tennis. But it's been the case for last few years. Tennis, it is really popular, maybe one of the most popular sports at the moment. So it's really nice to see. It was great to see Novak win Australian Open, you know. He worked so hard for it. I think he has such a good game and he can dominate men's tennis. You know, it's great to see him in, and I hope I can do the same thing.

Q. Going back to that, he obviously has worked hard to get where he is. You're prepared to do the same. Is that sort of methodology, you're going to work, work really hard, harder than the rest?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, I mean, definitely. I think as a professional athlete you have to understand it's going to be a lot of hard work. In Perth I had chance to spend some more time with him, and I could see also his team. I saw how much fun they have and how relaxed they are. That's always something that's going to help you perform better because you're in positive environment. That's something I've been lacking little bit. Girls are a little bit different than guys. (Smiling.) We are so much more stressed about everything. It was such a nice thing to see. I was thinking, Why can't I do that within my team? Why I have to be like other girls? I can change that and change the image of us girls. Just try to enjoy it a little more and not be so stressed about strict practice time and so on. You have practice time and work hard, but then you going to go on and have a laugh or a joke and it's fine. Nothing is gonna happen.

Q. One last question about the match. In the second set tiebreak, when you had the dispute with the umpire, I didn't quite understand what you were complaining about.
ANA IVANOVIC: Because I thought I said I want to challenge before she hit the ball, and he said I did, but he still thought it was too late. And I said, But as soon as I hit and I saw the mark I wanted to challenge. He said it was too late. And I just thought that the rules were as long as she doesn't hit the ball, I have right to challenge.

Q. A lot of players challenge after they've carried on playing the rally, don't they?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, that's why I thought I had right to challenge, because she still hasn't hit the ball. And he agreed with that, but he still thought I couldn't.

Q. Do you think they need to perhaps change the rules then?
ANA IVANOVIC: I think it's very hard to say because it is very touchy. You know, it's milliseconds. It's really up to chair umpire to decide that. I think it's very tough decision because you can't, you know, really see both sides at the same time. So, yeah, it's hard one, I think.

gaviotabr
Feb 16th, 2011, 10:33 PM
My reaction to this interview:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gWQaU40PH24/TKkfDOICkvI/AAAAAAAAJb4/F80vP7IiSI8/s1600/eternal-facepalm-eternal-facepalm-facepalm-captain-pickard-demotivational-poster-1242264259.jpg

Really no wonder Ana is back to playing crap tennis.. could she be any more confused and wrong? Doubt it. She is doing it again.. and worse.

And it only makes it more clear that the Doha withdrawal is much more than just injury related.

gaviotabr
Feb 17th, 2011, 12:29 AM
Dubai postmatch interview:


Q. How disappointing is that?
ANA IVANOVIC: there were a lot of positive things in my game that I worked on in last, you know, really actually few days. It was good to put that into my match today.

What positives??? Couldn't see any whatsoever. :o

Q. You seemed to struggle with your serve at various stages, specifically the ball toss. That must have been frustrating. Was it the wind or were you not...
ANA IVANOVIC: No, actually, I felt my serve pretty good. You know, there were a few that got away from me, but it wasn't really the main issue. I just felt like in the third set in particular I could not accelerate anymore, you know. Kind of strength issues a little bit. Yeah, that, I felt, was more of a problem than really my serve. Actually, I think my serve was something that was holding me in that third set. My game was kind of missing few bits and pieces.

This whole quote is quite something. The serve was pretty good? I wonder what would Ana consider bad. Her game was just missing few bits and pieces? Few? All pieces actually. She says here she had strength issues, yet she later states she is very happy with the work she is doing.. :help:

Q. I understand that you've come into this week without a full-time coach. You've just had like a sparring partner and a conditioning coach. Is that something you will look to revisit, or are you happy?
ANA IVANOVIC: No, I'm just really happy like this. It's going well. Yeah, it's been a quite a journey down that path with the coaches. At the moment, I'm just happy with the situation. Yeah, I have a really good sparring partner and good team with me, fitness coach. Just going to stick with it.

"I'm happy with the situation." Okay then, enjoy being a jorneywoman.


Q. So you're not going to hire a replacement?
ANA IVANOVIC: No, not for the moment. You know, I had interviewed a lot of coaches and I looked around a lot. Yeah, it's a little bit unfortunate, you know, the good ones really don't want to travel much or they're already committed. It's no point of forcing something with someone you just don't feel it's going to work. You try to work it out, but at the end, it comes back, you know, not really good. So it's better to just stick like this.

Are you sure Ana? Does she even realize she is playing worse than probably ever? I do agree you shouldn't force something with someone you feel it won't work.. mainly because you were never open for it to work in the first place. But you can't be happy with such situation.. you gotta search better and find someone that agrees with you on what's best for your game. The biggest problem here is that Ana doesn't see her own game clearly, she is obviously confused about it. Settling with Van Grichen, who went all technical with her serve and groundies while Ana needs someone to simplify things, only shows how she goes for names and not plans. This is the typical bad decision due to her being confused and her management having no idea about tennis. And it seems to traumatize her.. happened before (Kardon/Taylor) and now yet again. Don't they ever learn from past mistakes? If they did, Ana would also know that this coachless thing never worked for her either.

Q. Does that give you freedom where you've made your own decisions and it's down to you? Not conversing with a coach, does it make it a more mature situation?
ANA IVANOVIC: In a way it is really good. I feel a lot of coaches try to control and they try to take charge. But then again, sometimes you need someone who's going to say, No, you should practice a little more, or, This is fine. Someone who can actually judge how much is enough and can set up the practices. But then on the other hand, I already have so much experience. I don't need someone who's going to tell me what to do, because I know what I want to achieve and I know I have to work hard for it. Hard work is part of it, and I understand this. So I don't need someone to push me in that way. I just need someone to understand me as person and understand what I need, and someone who's going to be, you know, a little bit relaxed, because I'm such intense person. I'm such a perfectionist and I overanalyze everything, so I need someone who's just going to make sure I chill out a little. (Smiling.)

I'm going to guess what she wants to achieve is being a jorneywoman.. because to win slams, that's as far from what should be done as posible. She has lots of experience, but if she doesn't learn from it, it's like not having any. And she shows she hasn't learned, making the same mistakes over and over again. She says she needs someone this and that, but then that she is not going to try to get this person, and is happy with things the way they are.. WTF? Makes no sense.

Q. You obviously said you want to get back where you were in the women's game, top 10, potentially No. 1. Caroline Wozniacki earlier this week said that you could. I mean, that must give you sort of impetus going forward just to hear that. Do you put too much pressure on yourself in certain situations? Does it get to you in a situation like tonight, for example?
ANA IVANOVIC: Um, I mean, it does a little bit. But then, again, you know, I really strongly believe, you know, I can, you know, achieve that. And, you know, lots of people ask when it's going to happen or this or that. It's hard to say, you know. I really try to work hard, and I would like for it to happen obviously as soon as possible. But it's not always the way it goes. Yeah, you know, I really have to believe in myself and I have to make those changes. I have to kind of, you know, go through it again and reach what I want to reach. People are going to say they're going to support or not support you. In the end of the day, you're alone out there and you have to fight your own way. You can't really rely on what people are saying. You have to believe in yourself because you're on your own.

The bold sentence is pure gold. Why does she have to go through it again? This whole quote makes as much sense as a 3 dollars coin. She says she believes she can do it, but at the same time shows she doesn't.

Q. Oh, okay.
ANA IVANOVIC: So it is going to set you back a little. I'm still trying to get in shape from that and trying to work physically and also on court during the tournaments. Then you have to kind of also be fresh for your matches. So it is hard time to build up your game during the tournaments. And I need matches, so I need to play a lot of events. So it is kind of Catch 22. But I just to have to, like I said, I have to realize this and work hard through these tournaments. These kind of losses are tough, but you have to learn from them and kind of, you know, move on. And I accepted at these few tournaments I might not be at the top of my shape, but I'm going to work hard through it and kind of build up my strength and my game throughout the
tournaments.

She needs to play matches, but whitdrawals are pilling up already.. and giving up in matches is the order of the day. :o She had 3 weeks after AO to get in good shape, yet came back in worse shape? It's amazing how fragile she is, mentally and physically.. she lets everything slip from her at the first adversity. Reading this quote in light of the Doha withdrawal makes it even more brilliant. :tape:

Q. So your stomach injury has healed, but it's more or less building up your fitness?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, it is. Because, I mean, you do lose a lot. After my match in Melbourne, I still couldn't practice for a few days. I had to take time off because it wasn't healed enough. So, yeah, it is always going to hard. Like I said, you have to take off a little bit before the matches. So it's tough with the tournaments around, but then yet I need matches, you know. I think I do play well enough to get through the tournaments, so, yeah.

So.. another smart decision from Ana to write down on the book of smart decisions: played AO while she wasn't healed. Shouldn't have played.. hasn't she learned from past mistakes? Oh yeah.. she hasn't. USO 2008 anyone? :o

And she thinks she plays well enough to get through the tournaments? Yeah, right. :banghead:

Q. Going back to that, he obviously has worked hard to get where he is. You're prepared to do the same. Is that sort of methodology, you're going to work, work really hard, harder than the rest?
ANA IVANOVIC: Yeah, I mean, definitely. I think as a professional athlete you have to understand it's going to be a lot of hard work. In Perth I had chance to spend some more time with him, and I could see also his team. I saw how much fun they have and how relaxed they are. That's always something that's going to help you perform better because you're in positive environment. That's something I've been lacking little bit. Girls are a little bit different than guys. (Smiling.) We are so much more stressed about everything. It was such a nice thing to see. I was thinking, Why can't I do that within my team? Why I have to be like other girls? I can change that and change the image of us girls. Just try to enjoy it a little more and not be so stressed about strict practice time and so on. You have practice time and work hard, but then you going to go on and have a laugh or a joke and it's fine. Nothing is gonna happen.

She should realize that what works for Novak might not work for her.. and he is as serious and intense on court, and has been extremely focused, which isn't the case for her. :o



Ugh.. Remember the Hopman Cup, when she was addressing her game well and saying exactly what had worked and what not.. and even had the clarity of being honestly disappointed by her performance against Henin? Those were the days.. she was playing better then.. and looks to be happier with her play now. From a player aiming for the top 10 to a player happy to be a journeywoman. What happened this past month? Geeezzz.. :o

Vladiricky
Feb 17th, 2011, 11:51 AM
Well, I was in shock while I was reading the interview.

But I think that her volleys were fine, was very solid around the net. I forgot but I think her backhand was very solid, maybe better then her forehand which is a very bad thing itself. And as for serve, what she said was ridiculous.

She is so wrong about the coach. She desperately needs one, but I think her coach must be an older man, very experienced and calm by nature, I dare to say, a father figure. I've always thought that AVG was a wrong choice, as many other members. If she can't find one, she's better off one. As a consequence she'll be a journeywoman until that happens. I think that it's the same with any or without a coach. Of course, a therapy is an option but that's never going to happen.

gloria7
Feb 17th, 2011, 01:14 PM
Jelena Gencic,serbian tennis coach,in interview for Mondo:

I'm giving up on Ana!

Woman who was Novak's first coach,responded vigorously on Ana's statement, that she doesn't need a coach. "If she really think that way - way to go!(sarcastically). That's way she is going to have same result on every tournament she plays as she had in Dubai. "Star" as Ana can have a negative impact on the atmosphere in the national team in Fed Cup. We should't give up on anybody, but there are kids who are playing great tennis. We have Bojana and Aleksandra,and they are eager to play more and win. They love team spirit and that's what is important in Fed Cup.I wouldn't mix them with the "stars". I believed Ana can get back on the track,but i give up now. Serbia has plenty talented players and we should pay attention to them. I don't expect anything from Ana in the future. If Federer can not be without a coach,who she think she is,to be without a coach?!"

gaviotabr
Feb 17th, 2011, 02:23 PM
Jelena Gencic,serbian tennis coach,in interview for Mondo:

I'm giving up on Ana!

Woman who was Novak's first coach,responded vigorously on Ana's statement, that she doesn't need a coach. "If she really think that way - way to go!(sarcastically). That's way she is going to have same result on every tournament she plays as she had in Dubai. "Star" as Ana can have a negative impact on the atmosphere in the national team in Fed Cup. We should't give up on anybody, but there are kids who are playing great tennis. We have Bojana and Aleksandra,and they are eager to play more and win. They love team spirit and that's what is important in Fed Cup.I wouldn't mix them with the "stars". I believed Ana can get back on the track,but i give up now. Serbia has plenty talented players and we should pay attention to them. I don't expect anything from Ana in the future. If Federer can not be without a coach,who she think she is,to be without a coach?!"

Actually, Gencic's statements don't surprise me at all. The whole thing with Ana now is that we've been through all this already.. it's deja vu, all over again. We've been through the "I don't need a coach phase", we've been through the "I have niggling injuries" phase, we've been through the "I need matches (but pull out of events)" phase, we've been through the "losing against scrubs left and right and blowing leads all the time" phase. To have to go through it all once again makes anyone lose faith. Because it means Ana and her team have not learned from it and have no idea how to avoid it. This is not about having a bad patch.. having an injury bothering.. no.. this is about doing something that already didn't work and lead to awful results once again. It's like that saying.. making a mitake is human, but insisting on it is stupid.

gaviotabr
Feb 17th, 2011, 02:26 PM
Well, I was in shock while I was reading the interview.

But I think that her volleys were fine, was very solid around the net. I forgot but I think her backhand was very solid, maybe better then her forehand which is a very bad thing itself. And as for serve, what she said was ridiculous.

She is so wrong about the coach. She desperately needs one, but I think her coach must be an older man, very experienced and calm by nature, I dare to say, a father figure. I've always thought that AVG was a wrong choice, as many other members. If she can't find one, she's better off one. As a consequence she'll be a journeywoman until that happens. I think that it's the same with any or without a coach. Of course, a therapy is an option but that's never going to happen.

Agreed.

She should consider it though.. it's something crucial for her if she ever wants to reach high goals again. Even Novak did it, why can't Ana?

gloria7
Feb 17th, 2011, 03:39 PM
I think they want to expel Ana from the national team. I don't like that respected coach urges people to boycott Ana and openly demands her ejection from the team. She creates a lynch-atmosphere in Serbia,and media are all over this subject. This is not good at all.

Izzy,can you tell me,how many female players,from the same country,can play in singles at the Olympics? 2 or 3? Does that depends on the rankings?

One more thing about Gencic...she was only defending her profession.In that interview Ana offended her profession and made AVG look like an incompetent coach. If i understood Ana corectly,she thinks that there is no coach who can help her with her game.And then... "I need someone who can understand me..." it sound like she needs boyfriend more than a coach. I'm afraid that she has the reputation of a player hard to work with, a player who doesn't know what she wants,and,what is worse,who can't do,on the court,what her coash asks her to do.
I remember what Andy Roddick once said:"I'm not going to pay a guy to be my coach and then tell him what to do.You would be surprised how prevalent that is in tennis".

gaviotabr
Feb 17th, 2011, 03:47 PM
I think they want to expel Ana from the national team. I don't like that respected coach urges people to boycott Ana and openly demands her ejection from the team. She creates a lynch-atmosphere in Serbia,and media are all over this subject. This is not good at all.

Izzy,can you tell me,how many female players,from the same country,can play in singles at the Olympics? 2 or 3? Does that depends on the rankings?

One more thing about Gencic...she was only defending her profession.In that interview Ana offended her profession and made AVG look like an incompetent coach. If i understood Ana corectly,she thinks that there is no coach who can help her with her game.And then... "I need someone who can understand me..." it sound like she needs boyfriend more than a coach. I'm afraid that she has the reputation of a player hard to work with, a player who doesn't know what she wants,and,what is worse,who can't do,on the court,what her coash asks her to do.
I remember what Andy Roddick once said:"I'm not going to pay a guy to be my coach and then tell him what to do.You would be surprised how prevalent that is in tennis".

Up to 4 players can play singles for a country in the Olympics. 56 players will gain direct entry due to ranking, only 4 from each country.

As for Ana, I'm sure she already created that reputation for herself. Doubt many people want to work with her now.. it's a very insecure job, with not many benefits coming from it.

And yes, her interviews lately have been completely contradictory.. can't believe there are people who like it.

As for Fed Cup and Gencic's statements.. Ana is making it easy for them.

Nena_xxx
Feb 17th, 2011, 04:42 PM
I think they want to expel Ana from the national team. I don't like that respected coach urges people to boycott Ana and openly demands her ejection from the team. She creates a lynch-atmosphere in Serbia,and media are all over this subject. This is not good at all.

Agree. Really dunno why people in Serbia are like this.

gloria7
Feb 17th, 2011, 04:50 PM
Thanks,Izzy!

Just ignore Ana's fanboys,they will always blindly accept everything she does or says. All you can hear from them is "what a legs!"...or ..."i can't stop looking at her boobs". They can't be objective and don't care that much about her tennis. She is celebrity and she will be popular after retirement too. So...plenty of pics in the future for them. The biggest criticism would be..."this season has not started as we expected" and every girl who tries to be objective is -jealous bitch...or insane.

azdaja
Feb 17th, 2011, 05:39 PM
ana only needs to make herself available for fed cup. she doesn't need to play. it's still very retarded to talk about anyone in this way in public.

otherwise it's true that ana seems to be back in her bubble.

Cp6uja
Feb 17th, 2011, 10:35 PM
Jelena Gencic is big tennis authority here (with reason), but nobody (in Serbia especially) have rights to be so disrespectful and malicious about Ana Ivanovic! I really don't want to argue with this 75y old lady, but to say that 250+ ranked Aleksandra Krunic and Ana Jovanovic both already more deserve to play for Serbia than Ana Ivanovic is way too much. Also, Ana is one of rare Serbian tennis players which never works with Gencic, so how can she use Ana's (lack of) personal qualities as bold argument why she not deserve and not worthy to represent Serbia!?

Vladiricky
Feb 18th, 2011, 09:18 AM
I agree, what she said about Ana and Fed Cup is very wrong. Ana surely doesn't have a negative impact on the atmosphere in out Fed Cup team. Yes, there is a tension between Ana and JJ but I think it's made far worse by media and "tennis fans". And I'm sure other girls are happy to play with both Ana and JJ.

gaviotabr
Feb 19th, 2011, 12:18 PM
From Dubai's Gulf News (click to enlarge):

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gaviotabr
Feb 25th, 2011, 10:56 AM
Interesting article about coaching in an italian tennis magazine. Shows Ana's contradictions pretty clearly. Google translation:

When the father is crucial
SUMMARY MULTIPAGE

Today I started reading the book written by Luca Bottazzi together with Carlo Rossi and Michele Pisaturo "From Child to Champion himself." On page 32 it refers to pauses between points and changeovers:



"The intervals, if properly managed, allow the player to relax, restore the right level of concentration and activation, to search for solutions. If the player does not learn to profitably exploit the breaks, it will suffer growing and tend to worsen the situation. "



As I read these words I thought of Saturday's match in Dubai between Caroline Wozniacki and Jelena Jankovic. In Denmark's first three games played at a very low rate and is capped by JJ: 0-3. Asked his father to catch up to the exchange field and the game changes. Caroline begins to pull harder, trying to take the lead of the game more frequently and the match became more balanced.



Wozniacki relies heavily on the father who, according to the time of the game and the mental state of his daughter, spoke in tones more or less sweet (do not know Polish so I have no idea what that is saying but the tone of the voice can be interpreted). Piotr Caroline knows very well and his actions almost always have a positive effect on her. I do not think that the random Wozniacki has won six of the last nine WTA tournaments played (among other things, in my view, defeat the Cincinnati was mainly due to tiredness from the flight to Copenhagen and that brought in the U.S. while the one with Cibulkova in Sydney by the fact that we still had to get used to the new racket) while lost in the semifinals in the two Slam (when it can not count on dad). I am sure that if there was Piotr by his side in New York and Melbourne Caroline would react differently at different times of difficulty faced by Zvonareva and Li.



Thinking of Caroline / Piotr came to my mind-changing field yesterday Azarenka / Sumik. Despite the soft and encouraging words of his coach did not have to be a psychologist to understand that Belarus was not listening. I do not know why but Azarenka not follow his coach and all the times I saw her play this year I had the impression that it was empty, she did not mind the outcome of the match which was fought over.



Finally, Ana Ivanovic. The month of November, said: "I really need a full-time coach that I can follow all the tournaments and during workouts. Heinz (Gunthardt) has a family as well as other commitments that had taken some time ago and can not follow the continuity needs. "

A few weeks ago, after stopping his working relationship with Anthony Van Grichen, said: "I'm at the stage of my career where I know what my goals and I know that I have to work hard to achieve them. I do not need a person that I repeat constantly what to do. I have no more than 15 years. "



After seeing her play Patty Schnyder in Dubai, it seemed clear that as crucial to a person, but the right one, that can help in the game and in training, because I found it extremely confusing choices to do during the match.



In the WTA tournament you get a chance / luck of being able to ask for help "from home" the important thing is to have the "right" person, one trusts, on the sidelines if you are not yet ready to "good administration intervals.

http://www.tennisitaliano.it/quando-il-papa-e-decisivo-tennis-3515

Vladiricky
Feb 25th, 2011, 04:44 PM
^ Well, I guess that's obvious to everyone but to Ana and her team. :rolleyes:

Sharapovian
Mar 1st, 2011, 12:54 PM
Feature: lengthy matches

Following the epic four hour, 44-minute duel between Francesca Schiavone and Svetlana Kuznetsova in the fourth round of the Australian Open last month - the longest women's match in Grand Slam history - Ana was asked for her thoughts about lengthy matches. Which long three setters in her own career stand out, and how does she cope mentally during a tense battle?

"The Australian Open was full of thrilling matches on the women’s side, none more so than the Francesca Schiavone-Svetlana Kuznetsova epic, which lasted almost five hours. It was definitely one of those matches where there wasn’t a loser, and it was a great advertisement for women’s tennis, demonstrating how tough our matches can be.

"My own match against Ekaterina Makarova was also very long, and interestingly enough two of my longest matches have come against Kuznetsova and Schiavone.

"I’ve had quite a few long matches against Kuznetsova in particular, most notably at the Sony Ericsson Championships in Madrid in 2007, when I won 7-5 in the third. During a long match like that there are always going to be momentum swings. I remember I was up 6-1, 3-0 and I think I had two or three break points for 4-0, but she came back and levelled the match.

"It is very hard emotionally when you’re in that situation, but you have to put yourself in the position of thinking, 'hey, she won five games in a row, I can do the same thing.'"

"Although momentum is an important factor, the scoring system lends itself very well for comebacks because, unlike in other sports, you can’t just run down the clock, you have to push forward for victory.

"I heard a top coach say that winning the first set in a best-of-three set match means that you are only 25 per cent of the way there, but to be honest I disagree with that. Logically, you are halfway there, and in some circumstances even more: if you won a really close first set, often the second set comes much easier.

"In a long match you often look at your opponent during the change of ends, to see what her body language is like and how she is feeling physically. When it gets to something like 6-6 in the final set you are almost numb to the score – you are just playing each point as it comes. The crowd can definitely play a part too, because you are searching for energy wherever you can find it.

"To win a long match is extra special. It’s a feeling of relief almost as much as much pleasure. Actually in that moment that it ends, you’re not aware of everything that is going on. There is so much exhaustion – more mental than physical actually.

"Apparently Andy Murray lost track of the score during his match against David Ferrer in Melbourne. It may surprise some people, but it’s quite easy for this to happen and in fact it’s a positive sign: it shows that you are so into the match, and that you are focusing on your tactics instead of the scoreboard."

http://www.anaivanovic.com/pressandinterviews/feature-lengthy-matches

doni1212
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:39 PM
Feature: lengthy matches
"I heard a top coach say that winning the first set in a best-of-three set match means that you are only 25 per cent of the way there, but to be honest I disagree with that. Logically, you are halfway there, and in some circumstances even more: if you won a really close first set, often the second set comes much easier.
http://www.anaivanovic.com/pressandinterviews/feature-lengthy-matches

She sure hasn't showed me that she actually believes that, :rolleyes:
Or actually maybe she does and that's why she lets up in the 2nd after winning the 1st. She believes it will just be handed to her, :o

gaviotabr
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:15 PM
She sure hasn't showed me that she actually believes that, :rolleyes:
Or actually maybe she does and that's why she lets up in the 2nd after winning the 1st. She believes it will just be handed to her, :o

The second option... :o

Actually.. this feature is quite telling on how Ana has been so bad in 3 sets in the past 3 years. She actually believes once she wins the first set she is half way there, so she relaxes and expects the other players to just give in... no wonder Ana looks so surprised so often when players fight their hearts out against her in a second set, as if that wasn't supposed to happen.. she just expects them to lose easily as she says.. :banghead: So many matches lost after winning the first set because of that! And that works the other way around.. since she believes the player who wins the first set is half way to victory, she barely ever is able to turn a match around after losing the first set.. the other player is just too close to winning in her mind for her to have more of a chance of winning herself.

She should play point by point and know that winning the first set means nothing.. she has to win 2 to win the match. After winning the first you have to keep focused in winning the second, because the match is still all open and absolutely anything can happen.

Honestly.. after this feature it's pretty clear why Ana has been so awful in long matches and has lost most of them in the past 3 years. She has the completely wrong mentality about it.

Davodus
Mar 2nd, 2011, 07:57 AM
What a horrible attitude. "Oh I won the first set! Match is basically mine, especially because the first set was tough! They will fold and give it to me!" No Ana. You actually have to win...

Cp6uja
Mar 15th, 2011, 05:45 AM
I just back look on CNN site to check whats new in Japan and Libya, and together with all that war, battles, earthquake, nuclear disasters, tsunami... etc... news... I notice also report about upcoming Ivanovic/Jankovic Indian Wells R16 match. What a surprise :p

Jankovic and Ivanovic set up all-Serbian clash at Indian Wells (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/tennis/03/14/tennis.jankovic.ivanovic.wells/)

March 14, 2011 -- Updated 1456 GMT (2256 HKT)
Jelena Jankovic, pictured, and fellow Serb Ana Ivanovic have both made the fourth round in Indian Wells.


(CNN) -- Defending champion Jelena Jankovic will face fellow Serbian player Ana Ivanovic in the last 16 at Indian Wells, after both eased through the third round.

World No. 6 Jankovic defeated 32nd-ranked Julia Goerges of Germany 6-2 6-4 on Sunday, while 19th-ranked Ivanovic eased past Czech Barbora Zahlavova Strycova 6-2 6-2.

When they meet in Tuesday's fourth round, it will be the 10th time the two former world No. 1's have played each other on the WTA Tour.

The 23-year-old Ivanovic -- winner at Indian Wells in 2008 -- leads the head to head 6-3, but Jankovic has claimed victory in their last two meetings.

"I just want to continue to play my tennis and really focus on my game and not really worry about my opponent who is across other side of the net," 26-year-old Jankovic told the official WTA Tour website.
I just want to continue to play my tennis and really focus on my game and not really worry about my opponent
--Jelena Jankovic
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* Jelena Jankovic
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"It's gonna be another match, and I just want to play. I want to enjoy my tennis like I've been doing."

gaviotabr
Mar 31st, 2011, 09:44 PM
Ivanovic: We do triumph in Slovakia
News online | 31 mart 2011. 17:44 | Comments: 0
I believe that we will have success in the Fed Cup match. I think we have a good chance, if we can be in full force to triumph - says Ana

Serbian tennis player Ana Ivanovic, after the painful elimination of Kim Clijsters at the tournament in Miami, all thoughts turned to the Fed Cup match, the Serbian selection game in Slovakia.

- I'll make a couple of days break and then move to prepare for tournaments on clay. After that I expected the Fed Cup match against Slovakia, after which I will be back fokusirtati to prepare for Madrid and Rome - said Ivanovic, adding that the Serbian team has nothing to hope in Slovakia.


- I believe that we will have success in Slovakia. I think we have a good chance. If we are in full force, we can celebrate in this match - Ana said.

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:325130-Ivanovic-Mozemo-do-trijumfa-u-Slovackoj

gaviotabr
Apr 5th, 2011, 02:21 PM
The Invisible Match: It still seems inconceivable that Tennis Channel viewers weren't able to watch Kim Clijsters' 7-6, 3-6, 7-6 win over Ana Ivanovic in the quarterfinals. It was one of the most compelling matches in recent years, Clijsters coming back from 1-5 down and 0-40 in the final set, but due to a rain-created backlog, the match was moved to Court 2, which has no facilities for television.
That's correct: On its third most popular court -- comparable in scope to the storied Grandstand at the U.S. Open -- this prestigious tournament goes dark over the air waves. Announcer Ted Robinson called it "mind-boggling -- beyond my ability to comprehend," and the only visual was a hand-held video camera shooting Clijsters (only) during the final point.
Everyone loves Ivanovic for her charming demeanor (and, in many cases, other things), but she had to be kidding with her post-match rationalization.
"I managed to stay out there with her physically and to create opportunities and lots of match points (five) for myself. That's a very positive thing for me to take from here. It's a good thing."
No. It's a terrible thing, a complete physical and mental lapse under pressure. Ivanovic's loss represented the tour's biggest choke job since Jana Novotna blew a 5-0, 40-0 lead against Chanda Rubin at the 1995 French Open. There wasn't one good thing about it.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/bruce_jenkins/04/04/djokovic.nadal.federer/index.html#ixzz1IetJlUMp

:sad:

JAS_
Apr 5th, 2011, 08:22 PM
:sad:

You know, I don't know really. Sure it's a terrible choke. But in my view, it's still better than 1&2 losses when choking was but a distant possibility.
On the other hand, yes it's terrible, if she doesn't do anything about it. But Ana seems to me to be a slow learner, but still a learner nevertheless. In many areas, and so in Kim matches, she seems to need time to adjust, but once she does that, she CAN make progress. Thus, I think, she must play more, because she eventually does figure things out. Like Kleybanova. Like Bartoli in the Fall. Like Azarenka. Like Dementieva. It's just that she doesn't give herself enough of a chance to.

JAS_
Apr 5th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Two articles where Ana gets a passing mention, viewed with a bit more optimism :cheer:

"Ivanovic - who has already lifted the Coupe Suzanne Lenglen - just needs to close out a big match or two to prove she is truly back."

:eek:

http://www.wtatennis.com/news/20110405/road-to-roland-garros-begins_2256076_2330778/0,,1

"Ivanovic has picked up her game"

http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/jelena-jankovic-comeback-continues-at-family-circle-cup-charleston-040411?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxsports%2Frss%2Ftennis+%28F OXSports.com+News+for+TENNIS%29

azdaja
Apr 5th, 2011, 10:20 PM
Two articles where Ana gets a passing mention, viewed with a bit more optimism :cheer:

"Ivanovic - who has already lifted the Coupe Suzanne Lenglen - just needs to close out a big match or two to prove she is truly back."

:eek:

http://www.wtatennis.com/news/20110405/road-to-roland-garros-begins_2256076_2330778/0,,1

"Ivanovic has picked up her game"

http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/jelena-jankovic-comeback-continues-at-family-circle-cup-charleston-040411?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxsports%2Frss%2Ftennis+%28F OXSports.com+News+for+TENNIS%29
of course. after 2 years of gloom i think we really need to look for the positives. and i mean, i remember that ana's clay season wasn't exactly great before rg back in 2008. yet she won the most important tournament of the clay season. i think there is hope.

gaviotabr
Apr 5th, 2011, 10:52 PM
Two articles where Ana gets a passing mention, viewed with a bit more optimism :cheer:

"Ivanovic - who has already lifted the Coupe Suzanne Lenglen - just needs to close out a big match or two to prove she is truly back."

:eek:

http://www.wtatennis.com/news/20110405/road-to-roland-garros-begins_2256076_2330778/0,,1

"Ivanovic has picked up her game"

http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/jelena-jankovic-comeback-continues-at-family-circle-cup-charleston-040411?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxsports%2Frss%2Ftennis+%28F OXSports.com+News+for+TENNIS%29

Nice to see, even though one of the articles is from the WTA and they naturally paint every single player in a good light.

gaviotabr
Apr 5th, 2011, 10:59 PM
You know, I don't know really. Sure it's a terrible choke. But in my view, it's still better than 1&2 losses when choking was but a distant possibility.
On the other hand, yes it's terrible, if she doesn't do anything about it. But Ana seems to me to be a slow learner, but still a learner nevertheless. In many areas, and so in Kim matches, she seems to need time to adjust, but once she does that, she CAN make progress. Thus, I think, she must play more, because she eventually does figure things out. Like Kleybanova. Like Bartoli in the Fall. Like Azarenka. Like Dementieva. It's just that she doesn't give herself enough of a chance to.

I don't know.. I guess it's better than Ana just bowing down to Kim, like she has done in the past.. but in the end she did just that, bow down. I usually think a choke is worst than a beat down, because it shows you could win but were not mentally ready to, which is much much harder to solve than when you just lose badly and it's mostly a matter of performance. It's much easier to fix a game than to fix a head. Especially when you simply refuse you have any issue or need to work on your mental game. Ana is doing nothing about it.

I'm really not sure about Ana learning anything.. she has been making the same mistakes over and over and over and over again for over 3 years now, and doesn't seem to have learned anything at all from what she did wrong.. or even remember how that didn't do her any good. Even a slow learner would have changed after all that time, but Ana just keeps on insisting on past mistakes.

gaviotabr
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:03 PM
of course. after 2 years of gloom i think we really need to look for the positives. and i mean, i remember that ana's clay season wasn't exactly great before rg back in 2008. yet she won the most important tournament of the clay season. i think there is hope.

Ana had semis in Berlin, which was a good result and then what happened was just a prelude of her messed up head. She got informed Henin retired and asked to have her name removed from the rankings, which meant she only needed to win 2 matches in Rome to become number 1. As she said herself, she got so nervous she couldn't really play... lost her first match that same day. Obviously her mentality have been free falling since then.. it's all in the head. If she had it in its place, I would be feeling rather optimistic. As it is, anything can happen.

JAS_
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:10 PM
It's much easier to fix a game than to fix a head. Especially when you simply refuse you have any issue or need to work on your mental game.
.

I disagree with this, in general. However, when one is only trying to fix their game and doing nothing to fix their head, then of course it's true. It goes without saying.

JAS_
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:12 PM
I'm really not sure about Ana learning anything.. she has been making the same mistakes over and over and over and over again for over 3 years now, and doesn't seem to have learned anything at all from what she did wrong.. or even remember how that didn't do her any good. Even a slow learner would have changed after all that time, but Ana just keeps on insisting on past mistakes.

When I said she's a learner I meant primarily about learning how to deal with a certain player.
She did eventually learn how to beat Kleybs, who btw just lost 0 and 1 to McHale :eek:

gaviotabr
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:23 PM
When I said she's a learner I meant primarily about learning how to deal with a certain player.
She did eventually learn how to beat Kleybs, who btw just lost 0 and 1 to McHale :eek:

Oh.. maybe.. I think with Kim it was always about Ana's attitude towards the match.. not so much learning how to play her. But the crucial thing now is not even learn how to beat her, it's fix her head, get the right mentality over all.. not only against Kim, but against whoever... not have that "It's Kim.." (or It's Serena or It's Venus or...) when she is in a position to close out a match, because that adds extra pressure or extra nerves.. avoid treating it differently.. just able to close it out against anyone and everyone, be able to be mentally strong and focused whoever is at the other side of the net. That demands work on her mental game, and she refuses it.

Kleybs is awful on clay... as much as she moves well for her build at hardcourts, she moves like a mammoth on clay. If she is out of position, her shots can go anywhere. That Ana lost to her 0 and 3 at RG is just a proof of how awful she was playing that day.

JAS_
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:29 PM
Oh.. maybe.. I think with Kim it was always about Ana's attitude towards the match.. not so much learning how to play her. But the crucial thing now is not even learn how to beat her, it's fix her head, get the right mentality over all.. not only against Kim, but against whoever... not have that "It's Kim.." (or It's Serena or It's Venus or...) when she is in a position to close out a match, because that adds extra pressure or extra nerves.. avoid treating it differently.. just able to close it out against anyone and everyone, be able to be mentally strong and focused whoever is at the other side of the net. That demands work on her mental game, and she refuses it.

Kleybs is awful on clay... as much as she moves well for her build at hardcourts, she moves like a mammoth on clay. If she is out of position, her shots can go anywhere. That Ana lost to her 0 and 3 at RG is just a proof of how awful she was playing that day.

Well, I didn't mean so much about Ana adopting some special technique for Kim, as much as her mind getting used to the idea of playing Kim and not get so surprised and scared in the match. Similarly for Kleybs. It takes her sometimes two- three matches to just sort of process the idea that she might actually win against a certain player or get over the accumulated fear. But she does, which is just another proof that playing a lot sort of desensitizes her from the fear of losing to those said players and that she should play as much as possible so that she has played as many players as possible (and beaten as many as possible) by the time she plays them in a slam.

azdaja
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:30 PM
Ana had semis in Berlin, which was a good result and then what happened was just a prelude of her messed up head. She got informed Henin retired and asked to have her name removed from the rankings, which meant she only needed to win 2 matches in Rome to become number 1. As she said herself, she got so nervous she couldn't really play... lost her first match that same day. Obviously her mentality have been free falling since then.. it's all in the head. If she had it in its place, I would be feeling rather optimistic. As it is, anything can happen.
was it really like that? i thought ana needed to win rg in order to clinch #1?

i still think she's getting back, but we shouldn't expect miracles.

gaviotabr
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:39 PM
I disagree with this, in general. However, when one is only trying to fix their game and doing nothing to fix their head, then of course it's true. It goes without saying.

We can agree to disagree then. I'm obviously not talking about making someone with no game have a brilliant one, but getting a previously great game great again. You can fix a game, it's all about habits and technicalities. But a head is the hardest thing to fix... you have to be very open and very willing to work on it.. and still it might not be enough. If you miss a whole bunch of FHs in a match, it won't prevent you from getting it back to great. But losing matches while choking or completely bowing down to opponents, or just being mentally weak overall can create huge scars and make things even harder. Create more barriers that would need to be overcome to fix the head. Being strong mentally is the biggest weapon in tennis, at times better than having a big serve or FH.

gaviotabr
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:47 PM
was it really like that? i thought ana needed to win rg in order to clinch #1?

i still think she's getting back, but we shouldn't expect miracles.

It was. Ana was only a few points behind Sharapova once Rome ended. 2 wins there and she would have entered RG as number 1. Henin had removed herself from the rankings. At RG Ana had more points to defend than Sharapova, and when Maria lost in the 4th round, all Ana had to do was win her semi. By then she wasn't competing with Masha for the position, but with JJ and Kuzzy, who were both in the top 4 and in the semis. It was by winning the semi, and Kuzzy losing hers, that Ana got the number 1.

I think it's all still very fragile.. so I'll wait and see how she copes with all that happened and how she plays on clay to see if things are indeed looking up. I don't know what is Ana's preparation going to be like or how she will cope with the huge choking.. it can havea big bad impact.. hopefully she won't let it derail her and will keep progressing. I wouldn't expect miracles ever, mostly because Ana is obviously not ready to take advantage of them if they show up in front of her.

JAS_
Apr 5th, 2011, 11:48 PM
I agree that mental strength is one of the biggest weapons, I just don't think it's that hard to fix, especially since she actually did have it at some point in the past, so she has a point of reference. Just like fixing a game that used to be good.
But, it is extremely hard to fix, if one does absolutely nothing about it except hope that it will somehow fix itself.

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2011, 12:13 AM
I agree that mental strength is one of the biggest weapons, I just don't think it's that hard to fix, especially since she actually did have it at some point in the past, so she has a point of reference. Just like fixing a game that used to be good.
But, it is extremely hard to fix, if one does absolutely nothing about it except hope that it will somehow fix itself.

I understood you, that's why I said we can agree to disagree. I think it's about a thousand times harder than to fix a game that used to be good. Even if you are working hard in fixing it, the mentally weak days create scars that are sort of battle marks.. sensible spots.. you always have to fight not to open those wounds again. It's really tough.

If you do nothing about it it's not hardto fix, it's imposible.

JAS_
Apr 6th, 2011, 08:20 AM
I understood you, that's why I said we can agree to disagree. I think it's about a thousand times harder than to fix a game that used to be good. Even if you are working hard in fixing it, the mentally weak days create scars that are sort of battle marks.. sensible spots.. you always have to fight not to open those wounds again. It's really tough.

If you do nothing about it it's not hardto fix, it's imposible.

Well now this is a totally random statement. A thousand times? I mean, how did you measure exactly?
First of all, I know a little bit about psychology, and the thing is, if Ana knew just how far just a little effort on mentality would take her in improving her overall performance, and how many results would have been different had she already done it, she would probably hurt herself.
Also, whether or not every mentally weak performance will leave 'a wound' is not a given at all. As we can see, some people need to grieve and some pick themselves up. THAT is one of the things Ana can change.
We are not talking here about making a mental giant of any random player, we are talking about specific player and her problems which we know what kind they are. Believe me, she needs relatively little work.
Even more so, if indeed it is true, as you say, that Ana's improved performance against Kim is a result of change in attitude only. Imagine if that change took her from 1$2 loss to 5 matchpoints then how much more does she need to make that one final step. And while that final step is not just any other step, it still is but one step.

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2011, 11:03 AM
Well now this is a totally random statement. A thousand times? I mean, how did you measure exactly?
First of all, I know a little bit about psychology, and the thing is, if Ana knew just how far just a little effort on mentality would take her in improving her overall performance, and how many results would have been different had she already done it, she would probably hurt herself.
Also, whether or not every mentally weak performance will leave 'a wound' is not a given at all. As we can see, some people need to grieve and some pick themselves up. THAT is one of the things Ana can change.
We are not talking here about making a mental giant of any random player, we are talking about specific player and her problems which we know what kind they are. Believe me, she needs relatively little work.
Even more so, if indeed it is true, as you say, that Ana's improved performance against Kim is a result of change in attitude only. Imagine if that change took her from 1$2 loss to 5 matchpoints then how much more does she need to make that one final step. And while that final step is not just any other step, it still is but one step.

"A thousand times" is just a way to say a lot more. And I didn't say that Ana's improved play against Kim was only a result of a change of attitude.. I said there was a change of attitude involved, but obviously so many other factors.. And I was talking here in general, not only about Ana.

As for the rest we can just agree to disagree. Recovering the mind, getting it mentally strong after it being weak for so long, is very tough.. demands a lot of specific work and effort... and even for players who pick themselves up, mentally weak performances are still there in form of mental scars.. if you don't pay atention to it all the time, you might open the wound and do exactly the same again.

I don't think Ana is just one step away.. this sounds like when she said she only needed to improve 2% to be a real top player again. :spit:

I do agree if only she knew what a little bit of work on her mental game would do to help her performance, she could go mad. But a little work would not solve the problem completely, it would just help a bit. Ana has always shown the issues that are so obvious now.. they were just hidden by a lot of focus and determination. Now that her focus and determination are not so big, and that she has so many scars, those issues flare up easily. But they were always there, so it's even harder now to fix. It can be fixed, obviously, but she has to acknowledge it to herself and work on it, a lot.

JAS_
Apr 6th, 2011, 09:56 PM
And I didn't say that Ana's improved play against Kim was only a result of a change of attitude.. I said there was a change of attitude involved, but obviously so many other factors..

Um, you kind of did.
This is what you said:
I think with Kim it was always about Ana's attitude towards the match.. not so much learning how to play her.

But never mind.

Recovering the mind, getting it mentally strong after it being weak for so long, is very tough.. demands a lot of specific work and effort...

It really doesn't. It could be as easy as reframing her inner speech, changing her perspective, if she has someone to "set her straight". If she had such a person right away, she could adjust her attitude in no time. However, the reason it looks so hard to change is because she isn't looking in the right place. The problem with her is that she is hoping she will run into someone like that and is basically using the hit and miss method, possibly searching for someone like that to be also a coach. While that is entirely possible, it might also take forever to find that combo in one person. It's like the guy who was looking for his lost watch next to a lightpole at night, and when asked if he lost his watch there he said: No, but I can only look here, because there is light.


and even for players who pick themselves up, mentally weak performances are still there in form of mental scars.. if you don't pay atention to it all the time, you might open the wound and do exactly the same again.

Again, I must disagree. Quite the contrary. IF she pays attention to her losses all the time, like you suggest, those wounds will never heal. If she focuses on her past losses (and sees them as scars) and is at all times vigilant about possible future losses because they could create permanent scars, she will be more likely to repeat them. Essentially it's the so called white bear phenomenon - if we want to avoid something, the best way is NOT to focus on avoiding it, because this is how we focus our minds exactly on the thing to avoid as opposed to what we want to achieve. A case in point, for Ana to avoid a bad toss, it's not a good idea to pay attention to it all the time, quite the opposite. She should focus on getting her serve where it should go and not think about toss at all.

I do agree if only she knew what a little bit of work on her mental game would do to help her performance, she could go mad. But a little work would not solve the problem completely, it would just help a bit.

Here you are a little bit contradictory. If a little bit would only help her a bit, then why would she go mad?
The thing is, if I thought it was as hard to change mentality as you seem to be saying, I would never be frustrated with Ana. Because then, how can I consider her accountable for something that sounds next to impossible to change?


It can be fixed, obviously, but she has to acknowledge it to herself and work on it, a lot.

But that is the question. She cannot work on it herself because if she knew how to fix her thinking, she wouldn't be having these issues. She needs someone to help her change her perspective, reframe her inner speech, and first and foremost teach her how to regulate her emotions on court. Someone who would help her realise how her decisions affect her succes etc. And if she expects this will all be fixed by a good coach, which I am not dismissing as impossible,only highly unlikely, she might be looking forever and in looking lose her peak years.

JAS_
Apr 6th, 2011, 10:02 PM
In other words, she would benefit a lot from talking to a psychologist, even more from a psychologist versed in cognitive behavioral therapy, and most if on top of it he/she also knows a thing or two about performance psychology.
Who knows, maybe she wouldn't be Roger Federer or Justine Henin, but it could work wonders in getting her performance at least up to the level we all know she is capable of on a somewhat regular basis.

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2011, 11:12 PM
Um, you kind of did.
This is what you said:


But never mind.

No, no I didn't. Why do you put once and always in bold? It does not mean the same thing you know.

What I meant there is that Ana would always simply bow down to Kim.. approach the match like she couldn't win anyway. With that attitude, she was always going to lose, even if she knew exactly how to play Kim and/or was playing great tennis. By bowing down even before the match, Ana would never have a chance to win, which lead to the 1 and 2 beat downs. Even at top level, if she bowed down, she would lose easily. With the right approach, on the other hand, Ana could have a chance to win. So it was always much more about going on court to win and having the right attitude in this match up, because Ana had never played to win against Kim. Obviously, if she played like crap, no attitude would save her. But playing great would only be posible by having the right attitude, playing to win. So yeah... there are other factors involved obviously, but the one that probably made the most difference was her actually playing to win, not just bowing down. I think if she had that attitude in other matches, she might have lost, but she would also have a chance to win... would definitely not be 1 and 2 beatdowns. So the improved play was not only the result of change of attitude, but the change of attitude will always give her a chance to perform well.

Nevermind, I'm not sure I'm explaining myself well.. :spit::help:


It really doesn't. It could be as easy as reframing her inner speech, changing her perspective, if she has someone to "set her straight". If she had such a person right away, she could adjust her attitude in no time. However, the reason it looks so hard to change is because she isn't looking in the right place. The problem with her is that she is hoping she will run into someone like that and is basically using the hit and miss method, possibly searching for someone like that to be also a coach. While that is entirely possible, it might also take forever to find that combo in one person. It's like the guy who was looking for his lost watch next to a lightpole at night, and when asked if he lost his watch there he said: No, but I can only look here, because there is light.


Again, I must disagree. Quite the contrary. IF she pays attention to her losses all the time, like you suggest, those wounds will never heal. If she focuses on her past losses (and sees them as scars) and is at all times vigilant about possible future losses because they could create permanent scars, she will be more likely to repeat them. Essentially it's the so called white bear phenomenon - if we want to avoid something, the best way is NOT to focus on avoiding it, because this is how we focus our minds exactly on the thing to avoid as opposed to what we want to achieve. A case in point, for Ana to avoid a bad toss, it's not a good idea to pay attention to it all the time, quite the opposite. She should focus on getting her serve where it should go and not think about toss at all.

I agree she is not looking at the right place.. but I never sugested she pays atention to her losses all the time. What I said is that you haveto work on not letting things repeat itself, would never say that one acomplishes that by focusing in past losses. I probably used the wrong words before, what I meant is that the wounds are there, so you have to be even more focused and more concentrated in winning than normally, because the wounds are ready to flare up at first opportunity, at first loss of concentration. Concentration in the present match, not in past losses. I do agree with your white bear phenomenon point.

Here you are a little bit contradictory. If a little bit would only help her a bit, then why would she go mad?
The thing is, if I thought it was as hard to change mentality as you seem to be saying, I would never be frustrated with Ana. Because then, how can I consider her accountable for something that sounds next to impossible to change?

I mean a little bit wouldn't be enough to fix things.. it would only be a temporary measure. And it's really tough to fix, but with effort anything is within reach. It's only imposible if you never work on it and doesn't even accept it might be a problem.. like Ana.


But that is the question. She cannot work on it herself because if she knew how to fix her thinking, she wouldn't be having these issues. She needs someone to help her change her perspective, reframe her inner speech, and first and foremost teach her how to regulate her emotions on court. Someone who would help her realise how her decisions affect her succes etc. And if she expects this will all be fixed by a good coach, which I am not dismissing as impossible,only highly unlikely, she might be looking forever and in looking lose her peak years.

100% agreed with this. She needs someone to help her.. and there are actually a lot of mechanisms that can help you to control emotions on court. Mechanisms you can learn. But first step would be to accept that she needs that help.. she doesn't even thinks that is a problem.

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2011, 11:13 PM
In other words, she would benefit a lot from talking to a psychologist, even more from a psychologist versed in cognitive behavioral therapy, and most if on top of it he/she also knows a thing or two about performance psychology.
Who knows, maybe she wouldn't be Roger Federer or Justine Henin, but it could work wonders in getting her performance at least up to the level we all know she is capable of on a somewhat regular basis.

Agreed. But I think cows will fly before Ana actually accepts she could use a psychologist and that he/she could really help.

JAS_
Apr 7th, 2011, 12:01 AM
Agreed. But I think cows will fly before Ana actually accepts she could use a psychologist and that he/she could really help.

And that brings us to a point which we haven't even touched upon. The desire. If she really truly wanted it, she would try everything including alternative medicine doctors, let alone psychologists.
I just think she doesn't want it as much as she did in 2008, and there is no amount of coaching that can "fix" that. She speaks about some lofty goals, but I really get the sense that she has accomplished her goal by winning a GS and becoming no.1, and she hasn't replaced it with a new one. I mean, she did, officially, publicly declare that she wants to win another GS, but it sounds to me more like she is saying it because that's expected than because she actually wants it herself. Like Pete Bodo said in an article (about someone else, though), she wants to want it.
That can also be changed, but the question is - what for? One's ambition is often very highly linked to his/her immediate environment, now thinking primarily of the famous tennis fathers - Richard Williams, Piotr Wozniacki, etc. It's the value system in which these players are immersed that makes them want more. But with Ana it appears not to be the case, and one cannot force it upon her. Or even if one wanted to, the question is - why. You either want to be the best or not, and that's all there is.

gaviotabr
Apr 7th, 2011, 12:25 AM
And that brings us to a point which we haven't even touched upon. The desire. If she really truly wanted it, she would try everything including alternative medicine doctors, let alone psychologists.
I just think she doesn't want it as much as she did in 2008, and there is no amount of coaching that can "fix" that. She speaks about some lofty goals, but I really get the sense that she has accomplished her goal by winning a GS and becoming no.1, and she hasn't replaced it with a new one. I mean, she did, officially, publicly declare that she wants to win another GS, but it sounds to me more like she is saying it because that's expected than because she actually wants it herself. Like Pete Bodo said in an article (about someone else, though), she wants to want it.
That can also be changed, but the question is - what for? One's ambition is often very highly linked to his/her immediate environment, now thinking primarily of the famous tennis fathers - Richard Williams, Piotr Wozniacki, etc. It's the value system in which these players are immersed that makes them want more. But with Ana it appears not to be the case, and one cannot force it upon her. Or even if one wanted to, the question is - why. You either want to be the best or not, and that's all there is.

Yeah.. I don't think she wants it as much as before either.. and it shows by her pushing tennis away so often. I actually thought she was getting some of that desire back at the end of last year, with adding all those tournaments and looking quite happy to be playing.. but this year I see her back to the lack of desire. One thing is for sure though you look at 2008 Ana and 2009/10/11 Ana and it looks like 2 different people tennis desire wise. At times I just think she is expecting things to fall from the sky to her, without putting in her heart and soul really into it again.. and that is not enough.

Ad you say, if you want it that much, then you are going to do all and more to acomplish it.. and she is clearly not doing it..

gaviotabr
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Article about the WTA:

La decadencia de la WTA
Jueves, 07 de Abril de 2011 10:12 , Hugo de Lara López

El panorama de la WTA pinta peor cada día que pasa. Para su desgracia, cada vez van quedando más lejos los tiempos en los que Chris Evert, Martina Navratilova, Steffi Graf, Monica Seles, Lindsay Davenport o Martina Hingis conseguían atraer los focos hacia un deporte femenino, tradicionalmente infravalorados. Sus reinados fueron periodos de destellos inolvidables, que aún a día de hoy se rememoran incluso por encima de muchas hazańas protagonizadas por grandes jugadores del tenis masculino. Destellos, muchos de ellos, que han conseguido tallar con fino pero puro y radiante platino el nombre de algunas de estas excelentes tenistas en la cultura popular.
El periodo inmediatamente anterior al que hoy vivimos tampoco ha pecado de ser laxo: las batallas de las hermanas Williams entre sí y contra unas incómodas Jennifer Capriati, Amélie Mauresmo, Justine Henin y una Davenport, que insistía en resistir, se han convertido en verdaderos espectáculos dentro de la historia del tenis. En ningún caso cabe olvidarse de las competiciones de dobles que han apuntalado, y de qué manera, el virtuosismo de muchas de ellas. Pero el tiempo no perdona a nadie, ni siquiera a estas últimas estrellas que están apagándose paulatinamente, allanando el camino a jugadoras de nuevo cuńo como Caroline Wozniacki y jóvenes pero experimentadas lobas como Kim Clijsters, Dinara Sáfina o Jelena Jankovic entre otras tantas.
La irregularidad de las tenistas actuales se ha convertido en una de las notas predominantes del circuito femenino en los últimos ańos, brillando por su ausencia la confirmación de figuras consistentes, con la gran virtud de mantenerse arriba y no dejarse llevar por todo lo que la fama trae consigo. Apenas se pueden encontrar restos de la capacidad de sacrificio y la osadía de las estrellas de no hace tanto, que anteponían su rendimiento deportivo a cualquier otra cosa. Toda esta inconstancia ha estado cociéndose durante los últimos ańos originando una gira anual plana y aburrida, extremadamente predecible, sin la chispa ni la magia de quienes llevaron la reputación del tenis femenino a un punto excelente.
La decadencia que está experimentando la WTA no es una cuestión de calidad, pues el circuito actual cuenta con jóvenes sobresalientes como Caroline Wozniacki, Kim Cljisters, Francesca Schiavone, Dinara Sáfina, Maria Sharapova, Svetlana Kuznetsova e incluso Ana Ivanovic, cuando le apetece jugar, dentro de un amplio elenco.
El problema principal reside en el cambio de mentalidad tan radical que en pocos ańos ha dado un golpe tremendo sobre el tablero de este juego, y que las tenistas no han sabido corregir de la manera más afortunada para su deporte.
Ello ha transgredido la esencia original del tenis femenino para convertirla en una utopía que difícilmente podrá recuperarse si no comienzan a aparecer figuras comprometidas que sustituyan a las que han desaparecido y están a punto de desaparecer. Si no es así, mal lo tiene la WTA.

http://www.elfarodigital.es/blogs/hugo-de-lara/44465-la-decadencia-de-la-wta.html

I found the article interesting.. it's not so much about the quality of players, but about how many players aren't fully commited or fulfilling their potential. The way it refers to Ana is how I feel sometimes as well.. she is a force to be reckoned with when she really *wants* to play tennis. Pity that hasn't been often in the past 3 years.

azdaja
Apr 7th, 2011, 01:23 PM
yeah, it is a good article, though i think most people who follow wta understand its major problem is commitment of some players as well as injury issues. i wouldn't say the commitment is a problem with all players. it is with ana however :o

gaviotabr
Apr 7th, 2011, 10:45 PM
Gotta love how Cronin is an Ana fan. Gives her a B for the year:

Ivanovic has made tremendous progress since last summer, and I'd be surprised if she didn't re-enter the top 10 by midsummer.

http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/Novak-Djokovic-earns-early-season-top-marks-040711

Pops Maellard
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:05 PM
I see very little difference from last year actually. :o She's taken a major step back since late last year and lost from 5-1 0-40 up. Enough said. :o

gaviotabr
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:11 PM
I see very little difference from last year actually. :o She's taken a major step back since late last year and lost from 5-1 0-40 up. Enough said. :o


Yeah, I woulld give Ana a D.

I wouldn't say it's as bad as this time last year... but it's definitely a step back from late last year, especially regarding her attitude and mentality.

Points wise, Ana only has 150 more points than this time last year.. it's not a big difference.

JAS_
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:19 PM
OMG, Ana and Rafa the same grade.
AO semi and IW/Miami double final. Mkay.

People have lost their compass about Ana, derailed completely by their sentiments for her. On the one hand there is Cronin, on the other, GM has another thread in which Ana is not even an option for a RG winner this year, while Masha and Na Li are. C'mon Ana, show them! It's revenge time :armed:

gaviotabr
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:25 PM
OMG, Ana and Rafa the same grade.
AO semi and IW/Miami double final. Mkay.

People have lost their compass about Ana, derailed completely by their sentiments for her. On the one hand there is Cronin, on the other, GM has another thread in which Ana is not even an option for a RG winner this year, while Masha and Na Li are. C'mon Ana, show them! It's revenge time :armed:


:lol: Yes.. since Ana has been an enigma for so long, the perception of her comes from the feelings she generates in each person.

I wish Ana could find motivation in prove her detractors wrong.. it can actually be made into a very powerful fuel. Unfortunately, I don't think she gets any motivation out of it. :(

JAS_
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:38 PM
:lol: Yes.. since Ana has been an enigma for so long, the perception of her comes from the feelings she generates in each person.

I wish Ana could find motivation in prove her detractors wrong.. it can actually be made into a very powerful fuel. Unfortunately, I don't think she gets any motivation out of it. :(

Which is a pitty, because revenge can be such a strong motivator. I suppose she only reserves that for JJ, otherwise she has to stay consistent with being nice :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:40 PM
Which is a pitty, because revenge can be such a strong motivator. I suppose she only reserves that for JJ, otherwise she has to stay consistent with being nice :rolleyes:

True.. :lol: She should see how well it works with JJ and apply it with other as well. :spit:

It can be a very strong fuel.. I actually remembered now a Serena quote. She said that when she played Henin in the AO 2010 final, at the beginning of the third set, she heard a guy scream "Justine, you can win this, she is not that good!". And that got her so pissed off, she thought: "I'll show him how good I am." She said she took motivation out of it.. Serena went on to win the next 4 games and the match.

JAS_
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:43 PM
True.. :lol: She should see how well it works with JJ and aply it with other as well.

Exactly, just imagine it's JJ accross the net. :D
That would be the first exercise I would give her as a mental coach :p

gaviotabr
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:44 PM
Exactly, just imagine it's JJ accross the net. :D
That would be the first exercise I would give her as a mental coach :p

:lol: Good one!

JAS_
Apr 7th, 2011, 11:49 PM
True.. :lol: She should see how well it works with JJ and apply it with other as well. :spit:

It can be a very strong fuel.. I actually remembered now a Serena quote. She said that when she played Henin in the AO 2010 final, at the beginning of the third set, she heard a guy scream "Justine, you can win this, she is not that good!". And that got her so pissed off, she thought: "I'll show him how good I am." She said she took motivation out of it.. Serena went on to win the next 4 games and the match.

Maybe we can somehow make a recording in which JJ says "I am Serbian no. 1", and then play it in an Ana match? :lol:

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2011, 12:24 AM
Maybe we can somehow make a recording in which JJ says "I am Serbian no. 1", and then play it in an Ana match? :lol:

:lol:

kimgurl
Apr 8th, 2011, 07:21 AM
looks like its really hard for her to get back on her form..im sad to see her lose, but i know she's trying her best though..goodness i miss ana so much..i want to see her rocking like she used to in RG 2008..

gaviotabr
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Google translation...

Ana Ivanovic Serbian front of Helen and my relationship!
N. Ma. | 12 April 2011. 21:00 | Comments: 0
It's no secret that we're best friends, but it will not affect us - said Ivanovic, with a promise to fight for a maximum of Serbia in the match against Slovakia


Ana Ivanovic

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WHEN invite Serbian Ana Ivanovic is there. After more than a year "absence", the former queen of Roland Garros again this weekend and dress shirt with the national emblem in the match against Slovakia, which is not good memories.

In February 2010. Hantuchova and friends were an insurmountable barrier to our Fed Cup team, while standing in Belgrade. Playoffs two World Group in Bratislava, 16 and 17 April is a perfect opportunity for a rematch with interest.

All the strength and concentration, and this time Anna is directed towards the ground, ignoring the problems with finding a coach, fitness and tennis, the need to play a competitive tournament and return to the top 10, and anything else that might distract her from this very important duel for Serbia.



- I look forward to the match against Slovakia and the new challenges. Considering the fact that they have home advantage, I think that it can advance to say who is the favorite. All their players can play very well, so I expect tough matches - Ivanovic has said in an interview for "Novosti".

Who will be the toughest rival in the opposing camp?

- It depends on their current form and how many will be able to provide a specific date. And Daniel and Dominic are good players and careers are recorded by several major victories. Have the potential to beat everybody. I think the best Cibulkova played on clay and make her the most suitable substrate. It's fast and well covers.

You decided not to perform in Marbella, to be better prepared for the Fed Cup?

- It is certain that the Fed Cup has had an impact on my decision not to play in Marbella. It would be really too much and it took me some time to recover and prepare for the clay. When planning the most important tournament schedule is all well balanced and I think the plan is the Fed Cup is the first tournament on clay was good.

What emotions do rule while playing for the national team, and for Serbia?

- There is always a lot of emotion involved. Emotions, otherwise, a part of my game. But still, when I play in a team to further raise the adrenaline and brings another level of responsibility and satisfaction when you achieve victory. I think it is most natural to be proud that you represent your country. And, we represent Serbia, wherever it occurs, whether the Fed Cup or any other tournament.

Do you think that played against Slovakia's doubles match, because you have recently shown great in tandem with Petkovic's?

- Thanks. It was great fun playing doubles with Andre at Indian Wells and Miami. I think the better play. Of course I'm here to compete in doubles, if Dejan so decides.

Many have suspected that you and Jelena to be together as part of Serbia after a certain misunderstanding of the past?

- Most importantly, all provide the best and try to achieve victory. I am a professional and when I play I only think about what is happening on the ground. It's no secret that everyone in the team are not best friends, but if we have a professional attitude towards what we do will not affect us.

If anything, meanwhile, has changed in relation to your need to work without a permanent coach?

- Right now I'm happy with the situation. In previous weeks I worked with Darren Cahill in Las Vegas and sparring partner, Oliver and I will continue to work with them. I played well in Indian Wells and Miami, and I think we are moving in the right direction.

When do you plan to come back to Belgrade?

- It's hard to say. I miss Belgrade. I hope to soon be able to find time. However, just beginning the most important part of the season, so there is plenty of room for a break - says Ivanovic.

NOVAK is phenomenal
SAFE list matches Novak Djokovic this season?
- Is phenomenal. I am glad for his success. We are good friends and cheer to continue to win. Fantastic to see how Novak mentally and physically strong. All are waiting to see how things will develop on clay - says Anna.

REJESOV PROGRAM
Do you plan to hire someone to fitness and conditioning training in the season?
- I worked with Gil Reyes in Las Vegas at the "adidas" program. Particular emphasis is put into effect shoulders and upper body, I quickly saw results. Think about the new strength coach, but the current plan is to implement a program that is created by Gil for me.

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:326742-Ana-Srbija-ispred-Jeleninog-i-mog-odnosa

gaviotabr
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Ana Ivanovic for the world: Paparazzi are unpleasant

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Would you eat dog for success, which he regretted what she has brought beauty, what is the ugliest thing about yourself read and whose skin does not like to be found, we asked Ana Ivanovic.


(Photo: MN Press)
Three years ago you said that the Observer to have won Wimbledon would not eat dog, sold his soul or jumped naked into the Thames. How many of then since changed your attitude towards tennis in the sense of sacrifice for the sake of success? Are you perhaps be willing to do something of this at the moment when you were placed about 60 place in the WTA rankings?

"I would say that nothing has changed since then on this issue. My motivation has never been a problem. I just like tennis. It is certain that there were serious moments when I fell to 60th place and that time was not very pleasant to be at the tennis field. But I always understood her career seriously and was ready to make the necessary sacrifices that would be as successful, "said the MONDO Serbian tennis player Ana Ivanovic.

For seven and a half years are in professional tennis. What would change, making you feel repentant either did or did not you?

"I am a positive person and I try not to think about how we mourn and not to think negatively about the past. But of course there are some things I would do it differently now. For example, the 2008 U.S. Open is supposed to play with hand injuries, it was a big mistake to me after a dear price. But most important is to learn from mistakes and not repeat them. "

When svodiš accounts: what are your popularity and bring beauty and what is taken away?

"I think I was lucky in my life that I can do what I like and that also live on that. I saw some fantastic places, met some great people and I am grateful for that. Let's always single out and appreciate the friendship with the great champions such as Monica Seles and Andre Agassi, "Ivanovic told us.

"As for the negative side, unfortunately I lost my privacy and it is sometimes frustrating. But you just have to accept there is no point to bother too much about it because you're successful to get more people interested in you and your life."


(Photo: MN Press)
What is the ugliest and most incredible what you read about yourself in the media?

"To be honest I do not read what is written about me.'s Just not nice to me, it feels weird to read about themselves. So about these things sometimes hear from others. Those who are close to me know that I do not like to hear what is written about me and do not bother me with that. But for me the most amazing stories about supposedly going out with someone, and I say this person does not know. "

In whose skin, when it comes to public attitudes towards that person, no way she would like to find?

"I had experience with the paparazzi and it's very uncomfortable. So I can say that no Hollywood stars do not envy you at every turn hunted by photographers."

(A. Petrovski - MONDO)

http://www.mondo.rs/s203084/Sport/Tenis/Ana_Ivanovic_za_MONDO-_Paparaci_su_neprijatni.html

gaviotabr
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Ana is not even going to get a fitness coach... :o

I shouldn't comment on this really.. :tape:

gaviotabr
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:37 PM
This is off topic.. but I just read Heinz will work with Petkovic as an advisor in the coming months. He will travel sporadically, and work together with her coach Petar Popovic.

I miss Heinz so much.

In the meanwhile Ana has no coach, no fitness coach.. will travel around only with a hitting partner. Not even her mom travels anymore. :sobbing: I foresee the day Ana will go by alone at tournaments. :help:

jelenacg
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:40 PM
Our journalist can be so poetic : " When Serbia calls Ana is there to play for her" :rolls:

Izzy ,she says she is looking for a fitness coach and for now she is using programme Gil created for her

gaviotabr
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:43 PM
Our journalist can be so poetic : " When Serbia calls Ana is there to play for her" :rolls:

Izzy ,she sais she is looking for a fitness coach and for now she is using programme Gil created for her

Ok.. google translation can be misleading..

Still.. no hope for a real coach. I wonder what would make her see this set up she has can only be a temporary thing, that it won't be a solution for her career. :tape:

JAS_
Apr 12th, 2011, 09:55 PM
You decided not to perform in Marbella, to be better prepared for the Fed Cup?

- It is certain that the Fed Cup has had an impact on my decision not to play in Marbella. It would be really too much and it took me some time to recover and prepare for the clay. When planning the most important tournament schedule is all well balanced and I think the plan is the Fed Cup is the first tournament on clay was good.



All I can say to this is: 12. 12!

:bolt:


What emotions do rule while playing for the national team, and for Serbia?

- There is always a lot of emotion involved. Emotions, otherwise, a part of my game. But still, when I play in a team to further raise the adrenaline and brings another level of responsibility and satisfaction when you achieve victory. I think it is most natural to be proud that you represent your country. And, we represent Serbia, wherever it occurs, whether the Fed Cup or any other tournament.

read: I am stressed out :rolls:

gaviotabr
Apr 12th, 2011, 11:14 PM
All I can say to this is: 12. 12!

:bolt:



Ana must have been so tired after playing ALL these matches.. I don't know how she was able to recover in the past 2 weeks.. :tape:

gaviotabr
Apr 13th, 2011, 03:00 PM
It seems Ana will arrive in Bratislava this evening.. and that the clay is not in the best conditions.. Krunic said it's very slippery.. :scared:

Rosary: ​​When Ana and Jelena arrived, the atmosphere will be even better

B. O. | 13 04. 2011th - 16:44 h | Photo: TSS | Comments: 0
Tennis players of Serbia Bojana Jovanovski, and Alexander Crowns preparing for a second day in Bratislava for the Fed Cup clash with Slovakia, and expect to be given on Thursday to join the training and Jelena Jankovic and Ana Ivanovic.


Ana arrives in the evening, Jelena already joined, but because of fatigue from a busy road and change time zones decided to rest. Bojana and Alexander because working at full speed and the Rosary said he expected a good result and place in the World Group A despite the fact that courts are not in the best condition.

"We train at full speed, courts are not the best, they are fast and very little slag, and are made of concrete, they are quite slippery and should be carefully move. The atmosphere is good, still waiting for Helen and Anne, we will be complete and I think that the atmosphere further improve their arrival. I feel good, I play better than in February, improving and slowly getting used to the new technology. I do not think I would play, but I'm here whenever I need it the team. I hope for a better result than in the Arena and I think we have every chance to finish the duel, but in singles, "said Alex Krunic.

Bojana Jovanovski said to be getting used to playing on clay.

"I feel, I play better and better.'m Fresh and rested, and I expect better party. Magnifiers am working on my fitness, to get ready for the matches on clay, which are usually longer than the concrete. We continue with a strong work and preparations for fight that follows us for the weekend against Slovakia, which we know very well. I'll never forget the match in Belgrade that we played them last year prtiv at the Arena, it was a match where I debuted in the field for the Fed Cup team Serbia. Unfortunately we lost the meeting, but I believe we will get back in turn, on their home turf and in front of their audience to know that it is very temperamental and noisy. The goal is only one, the victory of Serbia and we all breathe as one, "said Bojana Jovanovski.

http://sport.blic.rs/Tenis/195876/Krunic-Kada-Ana-i-Jelena-stignu-atmosfera-ce-biti-jos-bolja

Davodus
Apr 13th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Sounds like one big injury waiting to happen :o

gaviotabr
Apr 13th, 2011, 04:05 PM
Sounds like one big injury waiting to happen :o

That's my fear.. I hope Ana tapes up her ankles. :scared:

doni1212
Apr 13th, 2011, 04:30 PM
She probably won't knowing her, :o :lol:

Adrian1092
Apr 13th, 2011, 06:36 PM
Helen and Anne :lol: Knowing Ana she will find some way to get injured anyway :)

azdaja
Apr 13th, 2011, 06:41 PM
going by a thread in gm ana can't even say that jj and her need to be professional even though they don't get along well with each other is a sign of bitchiness :o some people are so desperate.

gaviotabr
Apr 13th, 2011, 06:44 PM
Helen and Anne :lol: Knowing Ana she will find some way to get injured anyway :)

Knock on wood!
:help::tape:

gaviotabr
Apr 13th, 2011, 06:46 PM
going by a thread in gm ana can't even say that jj and her need to be professional even though they don't get along well with each other is a sign of bitchiness :o some people are so desperate.

Ana was just being honest. Maybe someone wasn't professional about it in the past... :shrug: Ana was not criticizing anyone though.. it's not like it's a secret JJ and her are not best buddies.

azdaja
Apr 13th, 2011, 06:48 PM
google translation of the entire article:

Ana Ivanovic Serbian front of Helen and my relationship!

WHEN invite Serbian Ana Ivanovic is there. After more than a year "absence", the former queen of Roland Garros again this weekend and dress shirt with the national emblem in the match against Slovakia, which is not good memories.

In February 2010. Hantuchova and friends were an insurmountable barrier to our Fed Cup team, while standing in Belgrade. Playoffs two World Group in Bratislava, 16 and 17 April is a perfect opportunity for a rematch with interest.

All the strength and concentration, and this time Anna is directed towards the ground, ignoring the problems with finding a coach, fitness and tennis, the need to play a competitive tournament and return to the top 10, and anything else that might distract her from this very important duel for Serbia.

- I look forward to the match against Slovakia and the new challenges. Considering the fact that they have home advantage, I think that it can advance to say who is the favorite. All their players can play very well, so I expect tough matches - Ivanovic has said in an interview for "Novosti".

Who will be the toughest rival in the opposing camp?

- It depends on their current form and how many will be able to provide a specific date. And Daniel and Dominic are good players and careers are recorded by several major victories. Have the potential to beat everybody. I think the best Cibulkova played on clay and make her the most suitable substrate. It's fast and well covers.

You decided not to perform in Marbella, to be better prepared for the Fed Cup?

- It is certain that the Fed Cup has had an impact on my decision not to play in Marbella. It would be really too much and it took me some time to recover and prepare for the clay. When planning the most important tournament schedule is all well balanced and I think the plan is the Fed Cup is the first tournament on clay was good.

What emotions do rule while playing for the national team, and for Serbia?

- There is always a lot of emotion involved. Emotions, otherwise, a part of my game. But still, when I play in a team to further raise the adrenaline and brings another level of responsibility and satisfaction when you achieve victory. I think it is most natural to be proud that you represent your country. And, we represent Serbia, wherever it occurs, whether the Fed Cup or any other tournament.

Do you think that played against Slovakia's doubles match, because you have recently shown great in tandem with Petkovic's?

- Thanks. It was great fun playing doubles with Andre at Indian Wells and Miami. I think the better play. Of course I'm here to compete in doubles, if Dejan so decides.

Many have suspected that you and Jelena to be together as part of Serbia after a certain misunderstanding of the past?

- Most importantly, all provide the best and try to achieve victory. I am a professional and when I play I only think about what is happening on the ground. It's no secret that everyone in the team are not best friends, but if we have a professional attitude towards what we do will not affect us.

If anything, meanwhile, has changed in relation to your need to work without a permanent coach?

- Right now I'm happy with the situation. In previous weeks I worked with Darren Cahill in Las Vegas and sparring partner, Oliver and I will continue to work with them. I played well in Indian Wells and Miami, and I think we are moving in the right direction.

When do you plan to come back to Belgrade?

- It's hard to say. I miss Belgrade. I hope to soon be able to find time. However, just beginning the most important part of the season, so there is plenty of room for a break - says Ivanovic.

NOVAK is phenomenal
SAFE list matches Novak Djokovic this season?
- Is phenomenal. I am glad for his success. We are good friends and cheer to continue to win. Fantastic to see how Novak mentally and physically strong. All are waiting to see how things will develop on clay - says Anna.

REJESOV PROGRAM
Do you plan to hire someone to fitness and conditioning training in the season?
- I worked with Gil Reyes in Las Vegas at the "adidas" program. Particular emphasis is put into effect shoulders and upper body, I quickly saw results. Think about the new strength coach, but the current plan is to implement a program that is created by Gil for me.
http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:326742-Ana-Srbija-ispred-Jeleninog-i-mog-odnosa

the link provided in gm.

azdaja
Apr 13th, 2011, 06:50 PM
:lol: @ helen. google translator :inlove:

Ana was just being honest. Maybe someone wasn't professional about it in the past... :shrug: Ana was not criticizing anyone though.. it's not like it's a secret JJ and her are not best buddies.
of course ;) i'm receiving plenty of bad reps for pointing this out, but i guess my reputation among jj fans must be pretty low :oh:

JAS_
Apr 13th, 2011, 08:27 PM
I am just hoping she gets out of there without injury.
First clay court match this year and it's a slippery court.:scared:
They did it on purpose. :shout:

gaviotabr
Apr 14th, 2011, 12:24 PM
Serbian Fed Cup team had a presser in Bratislava today. Couple of articles.. google translation:

Serbian tennis player before a match with the Slovakian in the pleadings cautious
SITA | 14 April 2011 14:14
Clash of the Fed Cup World Group 2012 reprezentatkami between Slovakia and Serbia will be one of the biggest fallacies tennis weekend.

Ana Ivanovic.
Author: AP, SITA

According to the sum of the charts status of the players' best two teams battle it is the best quality of all nine, who are 16th in this competition - 17 April for the program. Fans in the arena Sibamac NTC will see four players on the courts, which are in the rankings to 32

Renkingovo are favorite Serb, Jelena Jankovic as is currently the world number eight and seventeen Ana Ivanovic. Dominika Cibulkova of Slovakia Daniela Hantuchova and include positions at the turn of the third and fourth decades (28 or 32.). "I disagreed with arguments that are favorite meeting. I think it's a very open game and the fact that the Slovak team has home advantage and a positive balance of mutual duels. The forecast, I would be cautious," the captain said Thursday Serbian Dejan Vranes team.

Slovaks won both the Serb mutual matches so far: in July 2007 and 4-1 in Manchester last April in Belgrade, 3-2. And therefore are cautious in the statements, although Ivanovic and Jankovic have battles with Hantuchova Cibulkova and better mutual balance.

"It is true that I and the mercy and Jelena have mixed results against the Slovak player, but our team played in the statistics from each match 0-2 and the home advantage this time is not on our side. We must concentrate on every game, try to SA of all forces to showcase the best performances, while good deal with turbulent atmosphere, "said Ivanovic.

All major aktérky battle should not be so surprised on clay NTC is expected to interesting duels. "We played so many matches with the Slovakian, that together we have no secrets about our game. The Serbian team is a positive atmosphere on the rise in full force and we will fight for the country its best," Jankovic added.


http://sport.pravda.sk/srbske-tenistky-su-pred-zapasom-so-slovenkami-vo-vyjadreniach-opatrne-1my-/sk_stenis.asp?c=A110414_141429_sk_stenis_p09

gaviotabr
Apr 14th, 2011, 12:25 PM
They had to ask Ana about the choke.. :sobbing: I can't even understand well what she said.. damn google translator..

Ivanovic to duel in Bratislava enjoys
Serbian tennis players want weekend break in Bratislava NTC with a negative balance in the Slovak Federation Cup and return to the world's best eight.

BRATISLAVA. Team captain Dejan Vranes resumes on clay in Sibamac arena in the strongest composition with two former world leaders Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic.

Ivanovic premiered against Slovakia
Ivanovic for the premiere will start against Slovakia. In 2007, before the duel in Kosice Steel Arena withdrawn her injury last few weeks before the duel in Belgrade, the captain apologized arguing fall sports forms.

"I have come to Bratislava on Wednesday around midnight. The way the U.S. was indeed a long while but I do not feel lag. The last ten days I was preparing in Las Vegas with their coaches on clay. It's my first match against Slovakia, which is very I look forward, I expect quality meetings. I heard that the Slovak fans are noisy, try to silence them with their performance. "

"After the calamitous defeat to Kim Clijsters in Miami, where I led in the third set 5-1, I zaspávala harder. I already have however received. This match was for me a very good test," said the winner of Roland Garros in 2008.

Jankovic: Will a difficult match
Jankovic arrived in Bratislava on Wednesday afternoon from Charleston, U.S.. The inaugural tournament clay season eight of the world refer to the semifinals where she lost to world number one Dane Caroline Wozniacki.

"After a long journey, I felt tired, so I first attended training at NTC to Thursday morning. Kurt is a little slippery, but I like it. I hope you get used to it gradually. Against Slovakia to take up in full strength, because I believe that we can meet the stated objective to return to the World Group. The quality certainly belong there. "

"Against Hantuchova Cibulkove and it will be hard to match. I am against Dominica four years ago in Manchester occurred most memorable match in Fed Cup to be played in an incredibly turbulent atmosphere. The audience was very loud, like something waiting and now Bratislava."

Serbian captain Vranes while you prepare relishes. "Thank Slovaks having us very good conditions for preparing well for their hospitality. Against Slovakia he joined the Federation Cup for the third time in the last four years."

"We want to break the negative streak and win, but will not be easy. I do not feel the favorites, I expect an open match. Thanks for all the girls that come to this important battle in Bratislava. In recent months, made a very good performance and I believe that they will fare well in the duel with Slovak. "

http://sport.sme.sk/c/5851588/ivanovicova-sa-na-duel-v-bratislave-tesi.html

gaviotabr
Apr 14th, 2011, 12:57 PM
Ivanovic: I want to return to Top 10
TASR, 14/04/2011 13:32, Tennis

Serbian tennis player Ana Ivanovic wants to return to the end of the world's ten best. Former world number one has endured a crisis last year, the drop in form or not started barážovom meeting to participate in the World Group Fed Cup against Slovakia at the Belgrade Arena.

Before the weekend duel in Bratislava NTC in an interview said she has great taste back into tennis rankings, and wants to return to former positions. "Tennis once again brings me great joy. Beginning of the season came to me and if I continue with, I have very good prospects to the end of the season I was back in the Top Ten. I'm on track," said Ivanovic, who face off against Slovakia in the Fed Cup for the first time.

"The match in Bratislava, I am looking forward already. Slovakia has the advantage of home environment, and certainly will be difficult opponent. But we have a good team and I believe we will succeed. The fatigue after a hard cord overseas, I checked out of the tournament in Marbella Spain, but I consider another ten days to prepare for high-quality clay in Las Vegas under the guidance of coach Darren Cahill. I feel in good shape and I believe that will capitalize on it in Bratislava. "

Ivanovic would be on Saturday in the opening day start against Slovakian Dominika Cibulkova unit, which occurred with only one match so far. At the Kremlin Cup tournament in Moscow with her after she lost trojsetovom fight. "In the game you remember very well, I missed the match point in third set tie-break I dragged the short end. Dominica clay suits, two years ago in the semifinals at Roland Garros, but in Bratislava to try to defeat her return from Moscow," she concluded the current World seventeen.

http://www.denniksport.sk/article/171105/ivanovicova-chcem-sa-vratit-do-top-10

Ana, you could already be in the top 10 if you weren't such a headcase!

gaviotabr
Apr 14th, 2011, 01:01 PM
Jankovic and Ivanovic are cautious, waiting balanced duel

Today 13:42 - BRATISLAVA
Source: SITA Foto: SITA illustrative

updated 13:57 on Advanced Votes
Clash of the Fed Cup World Group 2012 reprezentatkami between Slovakia and Serbia will be one of the biggest fallacies tennis weekend.

According to the sum of the charts status of the players' best two teams even to the highest quality of all nine duel, which is 16th - 17 April in this competition under the auspices of the International Tennis Federation (ITF) in the program.

Fans in the arena Sibamac NTC can see them on clay courts four players, which are located in the WTA singles rankings to 32 partitions.
Renkingovo are favorite Serb, Jelena Jankovic as it is currently number eight computer ranking, another former leader of the evaluation of Ana Ivanovic seventeen. Dominika Cibulkova of Slovakia Daniela Hantuchova and include positions at the turn of the third and fourth decades (28, respectively. 32, already on the 12th, respectively. 5 spot).

"I disagreed with the claims that are favorite meeting. I think it's a very open game and the fact that the Slovak team has home advantage and a favorable balance of mutual duels. The projections I would therefore be prudent," he said at Thursday's press conference of the Serbian team captain Dejan Vranes.

Slovaks won both the Serb mutual matches so far: in July 2007 and 4-1 in Manchester last April in Belgrade, 3-2. And therefore are cautious in the statements, although Ivanovic and Jankovic have battles with onion and Hantuchova in three of four cases better statistics.

"It is true that I have mercy and Jelena mixed results against the Slovak player, but our team played for each other in Federation Cup matches and 0-2 home advantage this time is not on our side. We must concentrate on every game, try the all forces to showcase the best performances, while good deal with turbulent atmosphere, "said Ivanovic, who arrived in Bratislava on Wednesday until just before midnight and said:" While not feel 'jet lag'. " Paris Grand Slam champion of Roland Garros 2008 team face off against Slovakia for the first time: first, missing due to injury and then for lack of form.

The priorities aktérky is thus not too surprised. "We played so many matches with the Slovakian, that together we have no secrets about our game. The battle four years ago in Manchester with Cibulkova consider my craziest Fed, and it truly in this competition for some games this year. Against him and Daniele always expect a difficult match. In our team there is a positive atmosphere, however, succeeds in full force and we will fight for the country of all forces. We have to show off our best tennis, if we are to succeed, "heralded Jankovic, a semifinalist last week on green clay at Charleston in South Carolina.

Ivanovic as Cibulkova after missing the tournament in Miami in competitive events: 29 March lost in the fourth osemfinálovom Cycling in Florida a Belgian Kim Clijsters of 5:1 and 40:0 advantage of the income in the decisive set.

"At night, after this failure I have a lot nenaspala, but now I've passed over it. I try to take you from the lessons of such unpleasant experiences. Moreover, I am convinced that I can keep up and play a balanced game with a tennis player who is Now perhaps najvychytenejšou of all, "noted 23-year Belehradčanka and added:" In the meantime, I was prepared in Las Vegas with Darren Cahill and fitness coach Gil Reyes. I've been through ten days of training on clay and already I am looking forward to the match with the Slovak following weeks. Entering this season, I was a little weaker, but I proceeded to some changes, I have registered progress, I gained more confidence and I feel very, very well. "

New York Dvadsaťšesťročná finalist U.S. Open 2008 Jankovic followed up after the previous season working with Paul and Romanians Andreiom also needed to get used to: "This year I find it quite good. The results so far, although perhaps could also be a little better, but the change is considered good. It is a positive and that obey me health, which hindered me enough last year. I hope my training performances soon succeed fully transferred to the matches. "

Ivanovic during the recent "hardovej" series in the United States played in doubles with Nemko with Balkan roots Andrea Petkovicovou and during the matches on the bench paid little dollar bill. "As is known, was the money for aces and similar scale which we set ourselves the motivation. It was a relief and also quite a benefit, but some have refrained from doing so, because I lost it fairly," having a laugh said Serbian beauty and Commenting on his fellowship with Novak Djokovic, with whom she played in January at Hopman Cup in Perth, noted: "Although I have him in recent weeks repeatedly asked, what is the secret of its current excellent performance. I think that is, at this moment a world leader and I wish him that it soon became the official. "

Both Serb forces have been rankings. "Some five - six years I was constantly in the Top 10, but after last year's ongoing health problems considered most important to enjoy tennis - good results and move up the ladder of which perhaps the result," Jankovic found.

Ivanovic said: "The product of the unit is to post my dream come true and I would like to experience again. I would be happy if I did it already in a period when more are playing sisters Serena and Venus Williams, Kim Clijsters and other top tennis players this generation. It would be good if they stayed on the court as long as it means a lot for tennis. Personally, I wish also to add several Grand Slam titles, because these are experiences that remain in man for life. "

http://sport.aktuality.sk/clanok/110534/jankovicova-a-ivanovicova-su-opatrne-cakaju-vyrovnany-duel/

azdaja
Apr 14th, 2011, 01:19 PM
They had to ask Ana about the choke.. :sobbing: I can't even understand well what she said.. damn google translator..



http://sport.sme.sk/c/5851588/ivanovicova-sa-na-duel-v-bratislave-tesi.html
i don't understand much of slovakian, but just looking at the quote about the match against clijsters the word "zaspávala" should mean something like "slept", so i guess she had a sleepless night or 2, but she got over it.

gaviotabr
Apr 14th, 2011, 02:09 PM
Serb came silence stands victory over Slovakian
Fed Cup

13:27 | Today | Updated | George Buch

Bratislava - Serbian team two days before the match about staying in the Fed Cup World Group located in Bratislava in the complete composition, along with his aces.

One of them is 23-year-old Ana Ivanovic, currently 17th player rankings, which in June 2008 after winning the Grand Slam tournament Roland Garros has become a world leader.

Like in Charleston Dominika Cibulkova, Ivanovic also waived participation in the tournament in Marbella, and ten days to prepare for a duel on clay in Bratislava in Las Vegas with coach Darren Cahill.

Ivanovic against Prime Minister Slovakia

The previous two meetings in Manchester in 2007 or last year in Belgrade against Slovakian undergone. "Against Serbia Slovakian joined for the first time, so I am looking forward. Balance now are not significant. SUPERKOV have home advantage, which is important," said Ivanovic.

"I would like to thank the Slovaks for the excellent conditions for the preparation and hospitality. In Manchester four years ago we met with very similar turbulent atmosphere and we expect now the weekend. I also thank my toys and I am glad that we here in the strongest composition. In recent months, showing good form, "said Serbia captain Dejan Vranes.

Tight Cibulkova lost to Jankovic launched

According to the Essex Emerald in Captivity position paper is his favorite team. "Role favorite, I would not like to take. I disagree with this statement. Just get used to give forecasts or previews," Vranes said.
Jankovic to forget Košice

As in Manchester, and now the game is played on clay. For the players it is an advantage, since entering the clay of the season.

"I first tried to court this morning. It is slippery, but slowly getting used to it. The team will not be a problem, we have enough time to adapt to the surface," said eighth world player Jelena Jankovic.

Dvadsaťšesťročná Jankovic took place four years ago in a dramatic match with Manchester Dominika Cibulkova. Then starting Slovenka favorite succumbed, but it is so exhausted that Jankovic was unable to start the final singles and Slovaks and therefore won the entire meeting.

Memories of Košice. When the play's triumphant

"It was a terrific game in an incredible atmosphere. Very well you remember it. I now expect tough and balanced game. Slovaks made excellent performances, so we have to play as best we can to succeed," said Jankovic.

Rival is very familiar. "We have no secrets, we know what to expect from one another. We know what the true rival. Our team is a good atmosphere in and we are ready to silence the home audience," sounded from the mouth of Jankovic and Ivanovic.

World number one - a dream come true

Both Serbian aces already know what units to be significant.

"I was constantly in the Top 10, fifth years, but last season injuries have stopped me. Motivation to get back on top is great, but in tennis you currently use. The most important thing is that I feel good, I believe you. I hope that it can be shown in the matches. against Slovakia he joined in full force, because I believe that we can meet the stated objective to return to the World Group. The quality certainly belong there, "said Jankovic.

"Being a unit, it is a beautiful feeling, dream come true. I would still win the Grand Slam tournaments niekoško. Big rival like Williams sisters and Clijsersová slowly away, but for all would be good to have stayed and played. It would be great to get again on top even if they play, "said Ivanovic.

Serbs now can enjoy the unique tohtosezónnej unbeaten Novak Djokovic, who is with Ana Ivanovic close friendship. "Novak has gained tremendous confidence. In this I see no reason why even play. In my view, is currently the best player," said Ivanovic.

http://aktualne.centrum.sk/sport/tenis/clanek.phtml?id=1230829

gaviotabr
Apr 14th, 2011, 02:15 PM
Ivanovic defeat Clijsters has to wade through
Tennis / Fed Cup / Davis Cup
14.04.2011 15:44:00
Bratislava (uh) - laughed, perfectly tuned and no problems are apparently willing to take a picture with all the ingrown Slovak journalists, who before the lees attractive tennis player after today's press conference crowd. So showcased in the initial press conference of the Serbian Ana Ivanovic Fed Cup team (17th in the WTA rankings), who responded with fluent English and less pleasant issues. Arrived in Bratislava as the last, while at a tournament in Charleston neštartovala. "I traveled around midnight yesterday. Path of the USA was long, but the consequences of time displacement yet do not feel, "commented his arrival winner ten tournament titles, the last few days preparing under the guidance of personal trainers on clay in Las Vegas.

Belgrade native probably have long forgotten the last unsuccessful battle in Miami, which has led to Clijsters 5-1 and 40 "After this I lost zaspávala difficult, but gradually I got through it mentally. S Kim I ran a good match. I had the chance, I did not make significantly more errors. Duel was a very good test in the coming months, certainly gives me a lot, "added the former world number one. See more from videopríspevku.

http://www.osporte.sk/?id_cat=1230&news=93757

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 01:08 AM
Game to silence the home fans
15.04.2011 00:00, Tennis

Ana Ivanovic: "It would be nice to repeat that amazing feeling '


Only deep in the night from Wednesday to Thursday, as the last of the Serbian team, arrived in Bratislava from behind the ocean one of the most beautiful in the world tenistiek Ana Ivanovic.
"Ten days I've been preparing for the clay court in Las Vegas. Against Slovakia joined the first time in his career and the match I am looking forward, "concluded the press conference yesterday.

We were surprised that, after cancellations starting on clay in Spain Marbella are still not being moved to prepare somewhere in Europe, closer to the scene of the match Slovakia - Serbia, which would exclude many traveling from the opposite side of America. "I do not see any problem. My tennis players are accustomed to travel, "with a smile has sought to avert fears of her fatigue, when it was briefly examine this topic.


"It is difficult to determine exactly what is the optimal preparation for such matches. Fed Cup weeks in the season tend to be complicated, "explained previously, which was due to its late arrival to Bratislava and non-use options to train at NTC in a few days longer.

He concedes that, under the charter could have a slightly better chance of winning Serb, but also knows that the home atmosphere should help Slovakia. "We will try to silence the home fans as the best performance," expressed their determination and team.

Beginning this season, has identified 23-year tennis player for the weaker, which was not surprised, since the Australian Open, losing once in the first round with Russian Ekaterina Makarova. Similarly, tripping on the first obstacle Patty Schnyder, ended her speech in Dubai.

"I've made some changes after the training, which had a positive impact and also increased my confidence," assessed additional weeks. I thought taking the quarterfinals in Indian Wells, where it remained for the rocket and Jelena Jankovic (6:4, 6:2), and the fourth round in Miami.

There succumbed to Kim Clijsters in the drama of 6:7 (4), 6:3, 6:7 (5), although it had 5 mečbalov. "After the match, although I zaspávala harder, because I missed the chance. But there was no expressed disappointment there because I did not make any big mistakes, "zaspomínala far short of his last competitive match.

Now is 17 the world, but was already well unit, the first time in June 2008. "It was a secret dream fulfillment and simultaneously a great feeling. It would be nice to repeat it. And also once again win a Grand Slam tournament, "expressed to Ana Ivanovic, winner of Roland Garros 2008 and twice finalist in the event that range - in Paris, Melbourne 2007 and the 2008th


RECIPE FROM DJOKOVIC

Excellent chummy relationship with compatriot Novak Djokovic Ana Ivanovic showed on several occasions. Directly from the box ward Marian Vajda and followed his triumph in Melbourne this year.

"Several times I have asked him the secret recipe, how it can achieve such success. It is remarkable that this year yet did not lose and still plays an enormously well. His results I am very pleased, "noted a native of Belgrade resident in Basel, Switzerland.

http://denniksport.sk/article/view-comments/171137/

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 10:42 AM
Serbia surprised Cibulkova begins with Jovanovski
SITA, 04/15/2011 12:00, Tennis


Pictured from left Magdalena Rybarikova, Daniela Hantuchova, Ana Ivanovic and Aleksandra Kruničová during the draw pairs. Photo TASR / Martin Baumann
At Saturday's main singles weekend meeting in Bratislava Slovakia - Serbia on World Group 2012 Fed Cup representative team tenistiek enroll at 14.00 drive home team against Dominika Cibulkova afraid Jovanovski, who gets an opportunity instead of Leaders of the Serbian team of Jelena Jankovic.

"Metaphorically speaking, I knew it five minutes before the proper lot and that surprised me, but I will try to play your best. I am optimistic and positive," said Jovanovski Commenting on the surprising nomination. Jankovic absence did not cause health problems. "It is a decision of the skipper, who has such competence and that all are fully respected. I am totally disabled in order and if necessary, so any time he joined," said the eighth player world rankings. Cibulkova name of his rival in Saturday's somewhat taken aback, "Jovanovski has a really good record, but I must admit that even I think this nomination clearly surprised. The fact remains that no rival neradno underestimated both before and some have an exaggerated respect. I have primarily concentrate on their own quality performance. "

They were on clay courts in Sibamac arena NTC before consideration of 4-thousand people present capacity of the charts the second player of Slovakia Daniela Hantuchova against Ana Ivanovic. Held on Friday the venue ticket in a duel.

"Obviously it's a little change than expected, but whatever the name of my Saturday's rival to be taken as any other match. Important is that we have home advantage and I hope we manage to use it," said Hantuchova after ticket by Ivanovic added: "Even in this new situation remains the most important, which collects the first three points. We will do everything that it was ours."

On Sunday from 12:00 to the traditional scenario of the competition organized by the International Tennis Federation (ITF) brings together units from both teams Cibulkova and Ivanovic and Hantuchova with them twos Bojanovský. On the final doubles nominated captains Matt Liptak and Dejan Vranes couples Daniela Hantuchova, Magdalena Rybarikova and Jelena Jankovic, Aleksandra Kruničová.

The unexpected deployment Jovanovski in the opening singles game day is also expressed by both captains. "It is definitely a big surprise for us. Hard to say whether it be seen as a matter of tactics, some injuries, or momentary forms. From the beginning I was drawn to the excellent results this year Jovanovski, who reached in February in the Fed Cup," said Liptak. His counterpart from Serbia benches Vranes explained its decision as follows: "For you, it may surprise, but from my perspective not only on such a fundamental change. In addition, concerns not only the Sat I had it easy to decide, but I acted in my best knowledge and belief. "

Slovaks are present in the elite prelínačke Eight third time in a row, but premiered in the series 'top'. In April 2009, lost to Frenchwoman in a record-long drama in Limoges 2:3, twelve months after the close as possible differences just beat Serb in Belgrade and securing his first start in the World Group since the 2004 season. Fed Cup winner 2002 Slovaks in Bratislava in February derby in the first quarter-final Cycling insufficient to Czechs, which lost 2:3. Without Serb Jankovic and Ivanovic won in Novi Sad on 1st Round II. World Group of the Canadian 3:2. SR team succeeded to the selection of Serbia in July 2007 in Manchester, then 4:1, so the balance of reciprocal fights leads 2-0. In none of the previous meeting did not play Ivanovic: first for medical reasons and then for lack of form.

Match Slovakia - Serbia with equal status of individual players' best two teams in the WTA rankings and the highest quality of all nine battles, which are 16th in this competition - 17 April on the program, including two semifinals.

The National Tennis Centre will play Wilson Australian Open balls. Tickets € 10 and € 20 are already nearly sold out. Martin will be the main judge of the CR and Lutková empajrovými arbitrators Brit James Keothavong and Croat Marija Čičaková. Live television coverage will RTVS to deuce and Troika STV.

Result Friday ticket program meetings Slovakia - Serbia on the Fed Cup World Group 2012 tennis of national teams of women (16 to 17 April 2011, on clay in the Sibamac Arena in Bratislava NTC):

Saturday (14.00):
Singles:

Dominika Cibulkova - Bojana Jovanovski

Daniela Hantuchova - Ana Ivanovic

Sunday (12:00):
Singles:

Dominika Cibulkova - Ana Ivanovic

Daniela Hantuchova - Bojana Jovanovski

Doubles:

Daniela Hantuchova, Magdalena Rybarikova - Jelena Jankovic, Aleksandra Kruničová

http://www.denniksport.sk/article/171209/jovanovska-namiesto-jankovicovej-v-sobotu-najprv-cibulkova

I'm still.. WTF?

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 11:45 AM
Serbian tennis player will start in Bratislava without Jankovic

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Units of both teams will be on Saturday, Dominika Cibulkova and Ana Ivanovic.
Photo: TASR
In the initial meeting of Fed Cup singles match between Serbia and the Slovak Dominika Cibulkova to embark afraid Jovanovski.

BRATISLAVA. Serbian Fed Cup team captain Dejan Vranješ made a surprising change in the opening singles squad against Slovakia.

The unit does not enter them, the Balkan team Jelena Jankovic, which replaced the three team Bojana Jovanská. It begins on Saturday in the twelfth to Dominika Cibulkova.

"Change in nominations surprised me, I do not know whether Serbs Jankovic temporize or is injured," responded immediately after the ticket master Sloveniek Matthew Liptak.

Jankovic is not injured
"I decided that the onset of the following is not a team Jelenino injury or anything. In short, I have to make difficult decisions and this is one of them. It does not mean that Jelena will not play at all," said Vranješ. World fiver subsequently confirmed that in her case, not the injury, although it through the week troubled sore throat.

Zmenu not expecting nor Cibulkova, who will meet with Jovanovski first time in his career. "It's surprising, but in the Fed Cup is one against whom he is replacing. Bojana is also an excellent player, as demonstrated by their latest results."

Jovanovski was the heroine of the February meeting against Canada, when she was in the absence Jankovic to Ivanovic Serbian forces and managed to get his team three points. For it also received an award from the principal sponsor of Fed Cup. He gave her a check for $ 3000. Player but gave it to charity for victims of the Japanese earthquake.

Hantuchova sees an advantage in home
Jovanovski took nineteen against Slovakian and two years ago in Belgrade. In her Fed Cup debut lost to Hantuchova, but she won over Rybarikova.

"The change in the squad captain informed me just before the drawing of lots, but I am ready. I trained hard. Against Dominica I have not played an official match, but several times we trained together and I know her game."

In the second singles embark Ana Ivanovic against Daniela Hantuchova. "For me, plays a role when I start and I'll be playing against whom. Each match will be difficult. The advantage we have, that we are finally home and we want to win," said Hantuchova.

Ivanovic, who arrived in Bratislava as the last of the Serbian selection, said he feels good. "It's good, I can train for a lot. I look forward to Saturday."

http://sport.sme.sk/c/5853259/srbske-tenistky-zacnu-v-bratislave-bez-jankovicovej.html

gloria7
Apr 15th, 2011, 02:49 PM
Vranes:"I know people will be surprised that JJ is not playing on saturday. It was difficult to make that decision,but considering the current form of our players,the current situation and some other things that are not for the public - i think this is the best solution for saturday."

JJ:"Girls are in good form,we suport each other and it doesn't matter who will play".

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 02:55 PM
Ivanovic and Jovanovski selected for singles

NEWS ARTICLE 15 Apr 2011
By Clive White


BRATISLAVA, SLOVAK REPUBLIC: The Slovak Republic team were taken by surprise when their opponents, Serbia, omitted their highest ranked player, Jelena Jankovic, from the line-up for the opening day singles in this Fed Cup by BNP Paribas World Group play-off tie in Bratislava.
That’s not to say the former world No. 1 won’t make an appearance in the reverse singles on Sunday, but Dejan Vranes, the Serbian captain, has certainly given the opposition something to think about.
It is unlikely that this is pure gamesmanship. Jankovic’s replacement, Bojana Jovanovski, is one of the game’s up-and-coming players as she proved in Serbia’s last match, in February, when in the absence of both Jankovic and Ana Ivanovic she embraced the added responsibility with open arms, contributing all three points in the 3-2 win against Canada.
It was nice timing because Jovanovski was presented with her Heart Award prior to the draw here following her performance in that World Group II tie, proudly holding aloft a cheque for $3,000 which is to be donated to victims of the Japanese earthquake.
The 19-year-old is scheduled to open the tie against the Slovak No. 1 Dominika Cibulkova - and confidently expects to win. They’ve never played each other before, only practised with one another. Ivanovic assumes the No. 1 role in Jankovic’s ‘absence’ and faces Daniela Hantuchova. They might just as well have never played each other since their last meeting was over three years ago, but Ivanovic leads 3-1 head-to-heads for what it’s worth.
“I said when the Serbian nomination was announced that they had a very strong team and that we weren’t talking about just two players, but three because I think Bojana has had a great year this year and is the same threat as the first two,” said Slovak captain Matej Liptak, although he admitted to being slightly taken aback by the selection. “I don’t know what the reason is – maybe it’s some injury, sickness – I don’t know - maybe tactics.”
The word is that Jankovic will make an appearance in the reverse singles, probably against Hantuchova, but it’s just speculation for now. It could prove to be a master stroke because these two teams are so evenly matched any extra rest one player might gain could be crucial. Jankovic wasn’t complaining. “For now I respect the captain’s decision,” she said. “The most important thing is that we support each other.”
The two countries met at the same stage last year, in Belgrade, when it was Slovak Republic who advanced to the World Group by virtue of winning the doubles and it could well come down to the fifth and final rubber again.
Cibulkova was absent through injury then, but plays now, although any advantage is offset by the return to Fed Cup tennis of Ivanovic, the former world No. 1, after 14 months away. Clay was the choice of surface in Belgrade and it is now so there’s no advantage for either side there also. After all, Ivanovic is a former French Open champion and Jankovic a three-time semifinalist at Roland Garros.
More importantly, from Serbia’s point of view, Ivanovic seems to be coming back to her best, if her recent form at the Sony Ericsson Open in Miami is anything to go by. She went out there in the fourth round to world No. 2 Kim Clijsters – whom she regards as the “hardest player out there at the moment” - after holding five match points against her. No wonder she said she couldn’t sleep that night.
The motivation now is to emulate the success of Serbia’s men in the Davis Cup last year and with the emergence of Jovanovski the women are better placed to do this than probably they have ever been. This weekend’s tie couldn’t be more difficult, though.

http://www.fedcup.com/en/news/articles/ivanovic-and-jovanovski-selected-for-singles.aspx

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 02:57 PM
Ivanovic: I want one of eight
N. Ma. | 15 April 2011. 14:20 | Comments: 1
Emphasis will to put the Grand Slam, before all the Roland Garros and Wimbledon, while important and Rome and Madrid in this part of the season, said Ana in Bratislava for the "News"

http://www.novosti.rs/upload/images/2011/04/1504j/sp-ana-ivanovic.jpg

Ana Ivanovic in training

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EVENTS team player that can help to achieve better results at professional tournaments throughout the season, which is best seen in the case of Davis Cup selection of our country. Ana Ivanovic hopes to continue after the Bratislava with good games, and the new WTA trophies.

- I realized that I had to lower my goals that I set myself, and thanks to that I'm pretty relaxed - says Ana. - Emphasis will to put the Grand Slam, first of all, Roland Garros and Wimbledon, while important and Rome and Madrid in this part of the season. Again, my plan is to be in the top eight at the end of the season and qualify for the final Masters.


However, ranking does not bother so much Ivanovic.

- More try to fix the game to the highest possible level. I am satisfied with how things are going now, I am physically stronger and no longer have to play too aggressive and risky, but can not enter into long exchange of shots and carefully build points.

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:327173-Ivanoviceva-Zelim-medju-osam

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 02:58 PM
Fed Cup: Serbia without Jankovic first day
N. Mandrapa | 15 April 2011. 12:09> 14:03 | Comments: 6
We will fight to the end and I believe in the triumph, "said Ivanovic. Jelena Jankovic is missing at the start, playing second in doubles with Alexander Krunic against Slovakian pair

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15. April 2011. 14:22


Good atmosphere to victory. Laughter and jokes as the bar zbijale our players, led by coach Dejan Vranes, during and after the draw, the day before the match World Group play off the two against Slovakia in Bratislava, while the hosts were embarrassed watching in amazement, probably expecting different behavior, so maybe and fear of its trump card - Cibulkova and Hantuhovom.



As Jelena Jankovic has been omitted from the list of participants for the first day of clashes in the Sibamak "arena, because of fatigue and cold, and the court sent Bojana Jovanovski (opening duel against Cibulkove than 14 hours) and Ana Ivanovic, wily Slovaks were immediately suspected that the terms of a tactical set-Vranes and try to "fraud."


The scanner: JELENA VS. ANA
CONTACT: While sitting next to each other at the table, almost to the back were facing each other. No contact between them was not, and the only way they embraced the common picture of the whole team.
VIEW: No views are sent towards each other for half an hour sitting in front of the media.
INTERVIEW: They sent no word, nor talked to each other. Ana is mostly chatted with Bojan, a deer with a coach Vranes. MOOD: At first, Anna was a far better mood, while Jelena seemed quite thoughtful. However, after a good mood and JJ contributed and friendly atmosphere.
Persistently tried by Serbian coach to get the "real truth", but Dejan had "streptomycin" and such "attacks".



- This is a trick, you are right. But maybe not, however, who would know - ironic was Vranes. - How have the right to change the selection, however, that I may decide to Helen instead Bojana. Or maybe not. You will see the field. Maybe Alex Krunic get a chance in singles.



Slovaks are only then act as if they did not know what hit them.



- All kidding aside, of course we can not disclose anything that plan, it is part of the strategy, but it is important that each player provide the best and fight for the victory of the team - he said Vranes.



Handkerchiefs in the hands of JJ, red nose, sneezing and occasional zakašljavanje hinted on Saturday that the court really should come out Ana and Bojan, and for a week too early to make predictions.



- Coach decided not to play the first day, and everyone in the team to respect him and his decisions. We are here as a team, we are here to do our job the best we can and we will all take part in matches - if any is played, will fight on the ground, and the rest will give maximum support from the bench at that moment - said Elena, in the style the real captain of this team.



Bojan will break the ice, in a duel with favorizvanom Cibulkova, 28 world number.



- I do not care whether you play first or second. I'm ready to play the best I can, and though I never played against Cibulkova, I watched it several times and I know what to expect on the ground - said Jovanovski.

SCHEDULE

SATURDAY
14 hours: Dominika Cibulkova - Bojana Jovanovski, followed by Daniela Hantuchova - Ana Ivanovic

SUNDAY
12 hours: Dominika Cibulkova - Ivanovic,
follows
Daniela Hantuchova - Bojana Jovanovski follows
Hantuchova / Rybarikova - Jankovic / Krunić
* Selectors of both teams have the right to change players, up to an hour before the match

Ana Ivanovic has repeatedly proved to have the quality to bring joy to Serbia and to the field after the Bojana River, and will power alone to adapt to conditions in the hall and fans.



- I used to always play first in the Fed Cup, and now it changed. There is not much difference, though. Again, expect a tough match against Daniel, especially because the template you have set the Slovaks that best suits them. I wish him luck, because I have trained diligently in the past and preparing for this game. We will fight to the end and I am optimistic and I believe we can win! - Says Ivanovic.



Match Winner is the one team that first came to three triumphs.

PARENTS

Parents are the best support. Snezana Jankovic, Jelena's mother, Misa Ivanovic, Ana's father, but also Zoran Jovanovski, Bojanin father, arrived in Bratislava where he will next day be with their children. Snezana is a ceremony of drawing lots for the match against Slovakia spent in the company of Dusan Grujic, President TK Partizan, who also came to live cheer on our team.



JOURNEY

Several thousand miles "traveled" the previous day to Jelena Jankovic in the U.S. came to Bratislava. Trip by plane from Charleston to Atlanta took five hours, after which the subsequent chase for a flight to Europe, which was not easy to establish because of heavy preokeanskim lines. Yet, somehow the JJ came to Frankfurt, where it is headed to Belgrade. As soon as he arrived in the Serbian capital did not get to unpack, but immediately went to Bratislava, where he joined colleagues from the team on Wednesday afternoon.

SAUNA

RELAXATION players and reduce the pressure before the match was an important task of the selectors Vraneša recent days in Bratislava.

- How do we relax? Well, there were trips to the sauna, Turkish bath and various massage, and above all good atmospheres. Laughter is our recipe - says the coach.

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:327156-Fed-kup-Srbija-ide-na-pobedu

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 03:08 PM
Fed Cup: We Will not Helen!

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Match Slovakia - Serbia on Saturday will start the party Cibulkova - Jovanovski, and after them will be on the field Hantuchova and Ivanovic. Jelena waiting week.


Surprise of the day came from Bratislava!

The best Serbian tennis player Jelena Jankovic, skip over the first day of the match against Slovakia, which is the weekend game in the playoffs to complete a World Group Fed Cup.

Was decided by lot to be on Saturday from 14 am meet Dominika Cibulkova and Bojana Jovanovski, and then Daniela Hantuchova and Ana Ivanovic.

Selector Dejan Vranes, expressed satisfaction with the outcome of the draw and explain why the 58th tennis player in the world this time got an advantage over the eighth.

"I know that many surprised that the deer will not appear on the first day. It was not easy to make such a decision, but taking into account the form of our players, current status, and some things that might not be to the public - I think this is the best solution for Saturday, Vranes said.

The fact that Jankovic "on paper" only planned to play in doubles, not to say that on Sunday will play in singles. It is known that the rules of the competition allow for changes in the match.

"We'll see how I will handle Saturday's party, and we will make a final decision," Vranes said.

Jelena Jankovic said she respects selektorovu decision, although it's hard to believe that she herself did not participate in making them.

"The girls are fit, it is essential that we support each other and to pass on. At least it is important who will play," said JJ.

Ana Ivanovic against Hantuchova played four times (takes 3-1), but still the last Australian Open 2008!

"Daniel and I have always played a long and difficult match. I think even this will we be the first on clay ... It will be very interesting, but certainly will not be easy for her, not me," said Ana.

Our players have announced that they will fight to solve as soon as the match in his favor.

"It is important to move aggressively from the first moment, because every point matters. Slovakians are good players, playing at home and safe is all set to be as convenient for them. We are ready and we'll give everything to win this match."

Bojana Jovanovski said it was ready for a showdown against Cibulkova, the first of his career.

"I was in Bratislava on Monday, and before that I trained a lot on clay. I raised my game to a high level, I feel physically ready and looking forward to the match," said Bojana.

"The atmosphere in the team is excellent. We will do our best to finish on Saturday with a lead of 2-0.

http://www.mondo.rs/s203334/Sport/Sport/Tenis/FED_KUP-_Krecemo_bez_Jelene.html

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 03:09 PM
FED: Ana and Bojan played in singles
B92 | ​​AK
On Friday the draw was held in Bratislava for a Fed Cup match Slovakia and Serbia for the World Group in 2012. year.


Selector Dejan Vranes decided to play without the best results for Serbian tennis player Jelena Jankovic, and will compete in singles and Bojan Jovanovski and Ana Ivanovic.

Jovanovski will open this debate (14h00) with the best dancer Slovakian Dominika Cibulkova, while Ivanovic will resist Danijeli Hantuhovoj.

Other days of the Serbian tennis player will only replace the rival, but the day will open Ivanovic (12.00h).

Winner will be completed MECOM doubles, it will represent Serbia Jelena Jankovic and Alex Krunic and Slovak Daniela Hantuchova and Magdalena Rybarikova.

Ana Ivanovic expects tough match with Daniel Hantuhovom, but the general clash with Slovakia.


"I expect a tough match, it is important that the first moment we start aggressively as every point will be significant. They are very good opponents at home and I'm sure that everything is set up for them. We are ready and we will do our best to get this game ".

"With Daniel I've played a lot in the past, we always miali severe and long matches. I think we will this be the first clash on clay, will be very interesting but not an easy match for me," Ivanovic said.

All were surprised by the decision that selectors Vranes Ana next singles match on the first day game Bojana Jovanovski, not Jelena Jankovic.

"Everyone respects selektorovu decision, all the girls are fit, it is essential that we support one another and to try to win these matches and we pass on. Whoever is playing is the least important," said Jankovic.

Vranes selector is satisfied with the outcome of the draw.

"I am satisfied lot. I know that may surprise many of the deer will not appear on the first day, it was not easy to make such a determination. However, taking into account the form of our players, current status and some other things that may not be of interest reason, I think this is the best solution for Saturday's matches. "


http://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2011&mm=04&dd=15&nav_id=506432

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 03:11 PM
http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:327173-Ivanoviceva-Zelim-medju-osam

I don't know how Ana thinks she is going to acomplish this with her schedule.

JAS_
Apr 15th, 2011, 03:18 PM
I don't know how Ana thinks she is going to acomplish this with her schedule.

Yeah... :rolleyes:
Well don't you see, she will FOCUS better on grand slams, so essentially she is going to be a new Kim and Serena. Maybe she has mastered some focusing technique that and we don't know it yet.
And she lowered her goals...I am so happy...NOT :help:

JAS_
Apr 15th, 2011, 03:22 PM
Also, when I read the title (I want to be in the top 8) I got excited cause I thought she wanted to be a top 8 seed in RG.:sobbing::smash:

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 04:20 PM
Yeah... :rolleyes:
Well don't you see, she will FOCUS better on grand slams, so essentially she is going to be a new Kim and Serena. Maybe she has mastered some focusing technique that and we don't know it yet.
And she lowered her goals...I am so happy...NOT :help:

When I read that, I thought of you.. I knew you wouldn't be happy. I though.. JAS was talking about how Ana shoul aim higher, and there she is talking about lowering her goals. :tape:

It's about time she does well in Grand Slams.. she hasn't done really well in one since RG 08. But I think they have the wrong tactics.. with Ana it's not about getting into the grand slam fresh.. it's about getting as much rhythm as posible before going into it. They are trying to pull a Serena, but Ana is just not that kind of player. I can't believe they haven't realized that. :banghead:

Also, when I read the title (I want to be in the top 8) I got excited cause I thought she wanted to be a top 8 seed in RG.:sobbing::smash:

Well.. but that is something very hard with her schedule.. she would need to win Madrid and make the finals of Rome and would still depend on other results.

JAS_
Apr 15th, 2011, 04:51 PM
When I read that, I thought of you.. I knew you wouldn't be happy. I though.. JAS was talking about how Ana shoul aim higher, and there she is talking about lowering her goals. :tape:

It's about time she does well in Grand Slams.. she hasn't done really well in one since RG 08. But I think they have the wrong tactics.. with Ana it's not about getting into the grand slam fresh.. it's about getting as much rhythm as posible before going into it. They are trying to pull a Serena, but Ana is just not that kind of player. I can't believe they haven't realized that. :banghead:



Even Serena couldn't pull a Serena when she had only one grand slam.
They are soooo stupid. :banghead:
You can only do that once you build your reputation, and what little of reputation Ana had, she couldn't defend. Because defending means pressure. :help:

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:10 PM
Even Serena couldn't pull a Serena when she had only one grand slam.
They are soooo stupid. :banghead:
You can only do that once you build your reputation, and what little of reputation Ana had, she couldn't defend. Because defending means pressure. :help:

Now she actually has the opposite reputation.. that all it takes to beat her is to stick with her until she melts down! Nobody goes into a match with her to bow down.. they know they have a chance. No easy matches.

And going into a slam with just a few matches under her belt is not enough to get the rhythm necessary to actually be able to face all those tough matches since the get go.

I really can't understand what they are thinking.. such bad career management since she won RG. So many stupid decisions I've even lost count!

JAS_
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Heh, in your original post you wrote wait till she chokes and I was responding to you that it's actually worse, cause choking mean she stayed in it till the near victory, and in reality it's wait till she falls apart.
Yes, I must say that I am hugely disappointed, I think her managers have totally ruined her career with bad planning and management. You can see from the interviews that she is surrounded with people who are probably telling her to stick to "realistic" plans and lower her goals, thus inducing low confidence. Their goal is probably to make her relax to do well, but what a bad way to go about it all. There are much better ways to reduce pressure than to change the career path and settle for mediocrity.

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:23 PM
Liptak: It does not matter against whom get three points
Author: SITA, today 16:50, updated 18:21 today

Slovak Dominika Cibulkova tennis unit before the weekend's Fed Cup match in Bratislava against Serb: "Nothing rival neradno underestimated and at the same time or have an exaggerated respect".

Matthew Liptak
Foto: SITA / Michal Exchange
BRATISLAVA 15th (AFP) - Slovak Dominika Cibulkova tennis unit napochodovala ticket on Friday the weekend meetings of Bratislava Slovakia - Serbia on the Fed Cup World Group 2012 of national teams of women with "brand" a broad smile. Seemingly sobered when she realized the change in the nomination hostiek than expected. On Saturday, will ultimately play with Bojano Jovanovski (unexpectedly replaced Jelena Jankovic) instead Ana Ivanovic, who rose in the hierarchy of his team from second to first position.

"Since morning I had a good mood. Well, I slept, I have trained well. Not that I However, the change so much by surprise. I just could not yet be vyškerená from ear to ear when he is talking about serious matters. Moreover, brings me lucky when I day before the game too and laughed srším positive energy, "explained Cibulkova and added:" Certainly it Jovanovski inclusion in the report singles surprised at all, not only me, when Serbs there could not be my unit. Nothing, however, rival neradno underestimated and At the same time or have an exaggerated respect which would reduce the chance of winning. Jovanovski I saw play in January in Australia, where he managed to carve problems and the best. Nevertheless, I think it's from the Serbian side taktizovanie. Otherwise, it would certainly have notified in advance and Jankovic would not come if there was any compelling reason for such a choice. But I hope it will not effect them taktizovanie and nerozladí us. Even for Jovanovski still not easy to play here and keep the team with the best two in a row. "

Semifinalist in Paris Roland Garros 2009 Cibulkova of his adversary, said Saturday: "It's more so obranárka, runs well, trying to play fast. Gives an unpleasant low direct hits." Twelve former rankings Cibulkova, currently 28th in WTA ratings, lacking self-confidence: "I currently have any rival in front of me with respect. I hope our fans will demonstrate performance that is justified."

Fed rekordérka SR Hantuchova was the general expectation to play on Saturday with Jankovic, Ivanovic finally face off against a re-run in the Melbourne semi-final Australian Open 2008, which lost by 6-0, 2-0. "Ana is a former world number one, can cope with stressful situations. I think that on this surface will play very well, he should meet her, but I - even though clay do not have too - I try to find this base my style of play. The technology used in building the areola is nevertheless different from how I remember Berlin and Hamburg, some ten years ago. Rather, it is faster and tennis on the surface it will be different than the typical clay, "she said zverenkyňa Slovakian Fed Cup captain Matej Lipták representation if Ivanovic Hantuchova said:" Important will be the beginnings of exchanges, service or return. Anu must immediately retract it when it gets to the pressure she is very dangerous - it can burn 'winner' from both sides. "

Commenting on a former Jovanovski Five rankings Hantuchova said: "I came into awareness, in recent months has made very good results last year in Belgrade, when I beat it smooth, even or game where now. But I think that with the Jakovičovou yet come up with something. it did not go here just for nothing. We must therefore prepare for all possibilities, regardless of who ultimately enters against us. " When asked about the prospects of the teams on paper overall success Hantuchova blurted out: "Fifty-fifty."

Helmsman Liptak said in similar vein: "It is definitely a big surprise for us. Hard to say whether it be seen as a matter of tactics, some injuries, or momentary forms. Jankovic tennis player from the Top 10 and the driver of the Serbian team, always be the best musician. From the beginning I was drawn to the quality of Jovanovski. In February, in particular due to Serb forward to this match. Perhaps in addition to increasing the performance of the heart to managed such meetings. But we all go to that particular team, that our players are as best prepared and get the necessary three points. "

http://www.webnoviny.sk/sport/liptak-je-jedno-proti-komu-ziskame-t/334062-clanok.html

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:32 PM
Heh, in your original post you wrote wait till she chokes and I was responding to you that it's actually worse, cause choking mean she stayed in it till the near victory, and in reality it's wait till she falls apart.
Yes, I must say that I am hugely disappointed, I think her managers have totally ruined her career with bad planning and management. You can see from the interviews that she is surrounded with people who are probably telling her to stick to "realistic" plans and lower her goals, thus inducing low confidence. Their goal is probably to make her relax to do well, but what a bad way to go about it all. There are much better ways to reduce pressure than to change the career path and settle for mediocrity.

Exactly. And that is ever since she won RG.. I will never forget one interview with Sven at Wimbledon 08, right after Ana beat Dechy. He was asked if he thought Ana could go on to win the title, if it was somehow in her destiny after that lucky netcord kept her in the tournament. He said he didn't think so, and that he wasn't sure about the very next match, as he didn't know if she would still have something in the tank. That she shouldn't expect too much of herself, and just take it easy. Talk about having faith in her! And she was number 1 back then. But I think that's the tactic everyone around Ana has been trying to use, and that lead to so many big failures.. just tell her to take it easy and not expect too much, which is about the same as telling her she can't really do it, but she can always try. I think that played a pivotal role in lowering her confidence so much.

And then again, her management... :banghead: They know nothing about tennis.. I'm sure if it wasn't for SO many WTF??!! decisions, Ana would've never gone into such a huge slump. It's almost as if they are scared of pushing her foward, and then they end up pushing her back. I've heard one brazilian commentator say sometime ago that Ana's career got ruined by bad management, and I can totally see the point.

JAS_
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Exactly. And that is ever since she won RG.. I will never forget one interview with Sven at Wimbledon 08, right after Ana beat Dechy. He was asked if he thought Ana could go on to win the title, if it was somehow in her destiny after that lucky netcord kept her in the tournament. He said he didn't think so, and that he wasn't sure about the very next match, as he didn't know if she would still have something in the tank. That she shouldn't expect too much of herself, and just take it easy. Talk about having faith in her! And she was number 1 back then. But I think that's the tactic everyone around Ana has been trying to use, and that lead to so many big failures.. just tell her to take it easy and not expect too much, which is about the same as telling her she can't really do it, but she can always try. I think that played a pivotal role in lowering her confidence so much.

And then again, her management... :banghead: They know nothing about tennis.. I'm sure if it wasn't for SO many WTF??!! decisions, Ana would've never gone into such a huge slump. It's almost as if they are scared of pushing her foward, and then they end up pushing her back. I've heard one brazilian commentator say sometime ago that Ana's career got ruined by bad management, and I can totally see the point.

Right. I was just thinking the same. Especially after the last two withdrawals.
I am now convinced that with a little better management, her slump would never have been of such epic proportions. She could have easily stayed in the top 10, and from the top 10 it's a totally different perspective. It's a different look at GS semis, and it's different draws. Imagine she was top 10 in the USO last year. Her form was such that she could beat everyone save Kim, I thought. But in any event, I think if she avoided Kim she would have easily reached a semi, maybe even final.
But, yeah, she keeps deluding herself that ranking doesn't matter, that she has the mentality of Serena to win regardless of her ranking, and regardless of preparations/matchplay.

JAS_
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Also, the decision to skip Eastbourne after RG, to rest. Isn't it in the same vein? She obviously thinks resting is the best preparation and has some sort irrational fear of injuries. Well given her history, I can't blaim her, but this particular tourney was before the thumb injury.

JAS_
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:53 PM
Exactly. And that is ever since she won RG.. I will never forget one interview with Sven at Wimbledon 08, right after Ana beat Dechy. He was asked if he thought Ana could go on to win the title, if it was somehow in her destiny after that lucky netcord kept her in the tournament. He said he didn't think so, and that he wasn't sure about the very next match, as he didn't know if she would still have something in the tank. That she shouldn't expect too much of herself, and just take it easy. Talk about having faith in her! And she was number 1 back then. But I think that's the tactic everyone around Ana has been trying to use, and that lead to so many big failures.. just tell her to take it easy and not expect too much, which is about the same as telling her she can't really do it, but she can always try. I think that played a pivotal role in lowering her confidence so much.



I didn't know about that interview, but that doesn't surprise me. Her interviews reek of such attitude of people around her.
And you nailed it, I couldn't have said it better.
Instead of smart planning of her tourneys, so that she can play relaxed, not thinking so much depends on one particular match, knowing she will have other chances, they tell her to take it easy.
Instead of finding a psychologist, mental coach or whatever, zen master, to teach her techniques how to reduce anxiety, regulate emotions, while not dropping high aspirations, they tell her to take it easy.
Stories like the one you told about Sven really make you wonder if at that moment he had her best interests in mind. No wonder she has trust issues with coaches.
Such a pity, really.

Cp6uja
Apr 15th, 2011, 10:39 PM
- More try to fix the game to the highest possible level. I am satisfied with how things are going now, I am physically stronger and no longer have to play too aggressive and risky, but can enter into long exchange of shots and carefully build points.
:tape::tape::tape: :help::help::help: :smash::smash::smash:

So she want to be more stronger just because that will give her chances to be less aggressive :help::help::help:


I always believed in Ana's high potential, but without hyper-aggressive plan-A game strategy she will be at her best just mediocre TOP30 player :tape:

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 11:03 PM
Fed Cup web added audios to its article. Ana's interview is... well she says she has been focusing mainly on fitness in the past 2 weeks... (barely practicing tennis should do wonders for her tomorrow..)... that she has been playing a lot of matches lately, which helps with confidence.. (if 12 matches in 3 months is a lot, how many is not much for her?)...

http://www.fedcup.com/en/news/articles/ivanovic-and-jovanovski-selected-for-singles.aspx

Oh well... :o

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 11:06 PM
:tape::tape::tape: :help::help::help: :smash::smash::smash:

So she want to be more stronger just because that will give her chances to be less aggressive :help::help::help:


I always believed in Ana's high potential, but without hyper-aggressive plan-A game strategy she will be at her best just mediocre TOP30 player :tape:

when I read that I thought of you C6puja.. :lol: I knew you wouldn't like that one bit. I agree.. pusher Ana can't win matches. But then again, isn't that APDP's phylosophy?

Just another decision to add to the list of bad decisions.. it's looong.

gaviotabr
Apr 15th, 2011, 11:36 PM
Right. I was just thinking the same. Especially after the last two withdrawals.
I am now convinced that with a little better management, her slump would never have been of such epic proportions. She could have easily stayed in the top 10, and from the top 10 it's a totally different perspective. It's a different look at GS semis, and it's different draws. Imagine she was top 10 in the USO last year. Her form was such that she could beat everyone save Kim, I thought. But in any event, I think if she avoided Kim she would have easily reached a semi, maybe even final.

Exactly... and making a semi here and there in a slam, instead of losing first rounds, could make a huge difference for her confidence. It's like a snow ball..

But, yeah, she keeps deluding herself that ranking doesn't matter, that she has the mentality of Serena to win regardless of her ranking, and regardless of preparations/matchplay.

Yeah.. and that is such a huge mistake. Ana's mentality is quite another problem that she refuses to face, and that nobody around her make her see she should work on.

Also, the decision to skip Eastbourne after RG, to rest. Isn't it in the same vein? She obviously thinks resting is the best preparation and has some sort irrational fear of injuries. Well given her history, I can't blaim her, but this particular tourney was before the thumb injury.

That was when the bad decisions started I think. They let her in the bubble too long, instead of getting her feet on the ground and back to work. That lead her to go unprepared into Wimbledon, lose early, lose confidence, overdo it in july and get the thumb injury. One thing lead to another. One bad decision has a big impact and many consequences. And there were SO many bad decisions in the last 3 years...

I didn't know about that interview, but that doesn't surprise me. Her interviews reek of such attitude of people around her.
And you nailed it, I couldn't have said it better.
Instead of smart planning of her tourneys, so that she can play relaxed, not thinking so much depends on one particular match, knowing she will have other chances, they tell her to take it easy.
Instead of finding a psychologist, mental coach or whatever, zen master, to teach her techniques how to reduce anxiety, regulate emotions, while not dropping high aspirations, they tell her to take it easy.
Stories like the one you told about Sven really make you wonder if at that moment he had her best interests in mind. No wonder she has trust issues with coaches.
Such a pity, really.

I think Sven completely lost the notion of how to work with Ana after she won RG. What he learned from his mistakes there ended up helping his work with Woz. I think a lot of what he did contributed to Ana's complete loss of confidence.. he ended up getting accross the message that he didn't really believed in Ana's game, even though he probably did. I also remember him saying that when Ana got to number one they decided to work a lot on diversifying her game and making it more consistent so she could keep the number one ranking. That killed her game.. not only it was too much in too little time and completely going against all that had been working so well for her, it sort of sent the message that her game just wasn't good enough. And it was.. it really was great. It's like the say.. if it isn't broken don't fix it.

And it's like you say.. they handle her mentality in the absolutely wrong way.. like they are afraid to face the issue.. they try to protect her so much, she only gets more fragile.

It really is a pity... she could've had such a brilliant career..

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:28 AM
- More try to fix the game to the highest possible level. I am satisfied with how things are going now, I am physically stronger and no longer have to play too aggressive and risky, but can enter into long exchange of shots and carefully build points.

I thought she has already reached this level of fitness last Summer. Wasn't she saying the same last year after working with Marija for a while?
I feel like I'm in The Twighlight Zone. Or in the movie Groundhog Day. Do things even change in her world?
Why is fitness such an issue for Ana? I mean no one else is obsessing about it so much. It's part of the game. How long is it gonna take her to get it right? Why is it an issue now? I thought she fixed it. Just maintain it now.
You know, maybe it has something to do with taking these vacations and not playing matches, you know? :rolleyes:
I am starting to think she is using it to avoid focusing on matches and winning. This way she can always stay in this "not ready" zone.

:tape::tape::tape: :help::help::help: :smash::smash::smash:

So she want to be more stronger just because that will give her chances to be less aggressive :help::help::help:


I always believed in Ana's high potential, but without hyper-aggressive plan-A game strategy she will be at her best just mediocre TOP30 player :tape:

And I thought she wanted to be stronger because she wanted to be more aggressive.

Fed Cup web added audios to its article. Ana's interview is... well she says she has been focusing mainly on fitness in the past 2 weeks... (barely practicing tennis should do wonders for her tomorrow..)... that she has been playing a lot of matches lately, which helps with confidence.. (if 12 matches in 3 months is a lot, how many is not much for her?)...

http://www.fedcup.com/en/news/articles/ivanovic-and-jovanovski-selected-for-singles.aspx

Oh well... :o

I am not even going to comment on this anymore. She has lowered the bar so much that she doesn't realize she is using a different measure from others. For her 12 is A LOT of matches. :tape:
A totally distorted view of reality is not going to help her get back to where she claims she wants.
Nope, that's putting it lightly. Having a different (lower) standard than others is a sure death when it comes to accomplishing anything.
Someone should tell her that her proclaimed ambitions and her means of getting there do not square. But then, I am not sure she really harbors the ambitions she declares in the press.

I don't know, but her last few pressers got me worried that we are again entering the space in which she apparently dwells when she has no coach - just all over the place in the pressers and general confusion and lack of clear idea of what she wants and how to accomplish it. Souns frighteningly similar to the phase before Heinz which was full of pearls of pressers. I hope I am wrong.

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:47 AM
That was when the bad decisions started I think. They let her in the bubble too long, instead of getting her feet on the ground and back to work. That lead her to go unprepared into Wimbledon, lose early, lose confidence, overdo it in july and get the thumb injury. One thing lead to another. One bad decision has a big impact and many consequences. And there were SO many bad decisions in the last 3 years...


Right. IMO, that was the worst decision she made in her career, and not playing USO that year with injury. You know, just because she lost that one match didn't necessarily mean she had to keep freefalling, she could have stopped the freefall with a little effort. If not in the next tourney, than the next one.
However, early exit from Wimbly has robbed her of a much bigger opportunity. Had she prepared properly for that Wimby, she could have gone deep on the tide of her RG victory and right away get off her back the monkey of playing under the pressure of expectations, even before she became aware of them. Plus, this time b/w RG and Wimbly that she had on her hands, as we now know, was the time she had to dwell on this success, making it bigger, thinking about expectations, and just generally overthinking it and we know how that works out for her. Instead of just taking it in stride. (But I blaim a little bit Serbian mentality for that as well. It was such a huge success that she simply had to give herself some time to enjoy it enstead of pushing forward to make the most of it.)
To this day I am not sure that Ana has figured out the importance of momentum and tides in achieving success. Judging by her assessment that playing USO 08 was her worst decision, and her schedule, I think she hasn't. Too bad, when she does, it could be too late.


And it's like you say.. they handle her mentality in the absolutely wrong way.. like they are afraid to face the issue.. they try to protect her so much, she only gets more fragile.


Well, that's what happens when amateurs play psychologits. They want to help, but they don't know how. Now, why it is ok to ask for help regarding physical fitness, but not mental, that I don't know. Probably a little bit of Serbian mentality as well.

gaviotabr
Apr 16th, 2011, 11:18 AM
Interview
ANA IVANOVIC: with Jelena in good agreement
(0) Saturday, 16 April, 2011. | Author: Milan Nastic
Serbian tennis player has rejected speculation that it was not on good terms with his colleague from the Fed Cup team

No hate!
Serbian tennis player Ana Ivanovic in the interview to Blic said that she was on good terms with Jelena Jankovic and that there are no problems or intolerance. Ivanovic believes that along with Jankovic en can get Slovak.

* What is your relationship with Jelena Jankovic?
- There are a lot of speculation about me and the deer. People want to make a sensational story. We get along, even earlier and played doubles together - Ivanovic said.

* Does the Fed Cup team could achieve what has made Davis Cup team, and that is winning this competition?
- I think we can only question is how and when. Men were quite different. They are unity and a great atmosphere. The team must be unique, the slogan "All for one and one for all".

* Are you satisfied with the beginning of the season?
- I am happy as things are now. I have progressed. I have good coaches and sparring partners, as it brought back the confidence he needs. Again, I can relax and enjoy the competitions.

* What are the reasons for your sudden drop in the past?
- I was always self inflicted great goals. That has created more pressure and took place in the disappointment. Now I realize that there is no need to load.

* What are your goals for this season?
- I would like to play at the Masters at the end of the year, which means to enter the top eight - ended up Ivanovic.


http://www.kurir-info.rs/sport/ana-ivanovic-sa-jelenom-se-dobro-slazem-85675.php

gaviotabr
Apr 16th, 2011, 11:53 AM
I thought she has already reached this level of fitness last Summer. Wasn't she saying the same last year after working with Marija for a while?
I feel like I'm in The Twighlight Zone. Or in the movie Groundhog Day. Do things even change in her world?
Why is fitness such an issue for Ana? I mean no one else is obsessing about it so much. It's part of the game. How long is it gonna take her to get it right? Why is it an issue now? I thought she fixed it. Just maintain it now.
You know, maybe it has something to do with taking these vacations and not playing matches, you know? :rolleyes:
I am starting to think she is using it to avoid focusing on matches and winning. This way she can always stay in this "not ready" zone.

And I thought she wanted to be stronger because she wanted to be more aggressive.

Ana said she lost too much weight during the off season and was feeling weak and was not recovering in time. Which brings us to another point. The last few off seasons have been awful and that shows lack of plan and lack of knowledge of what's best and works for her. From Sven giving her 30 mins practices to her losing too much weight.. wasn't she fit at the end of the year, why the change? There is no clarity about how she should prepare, play or go about on tour.

But yeah.. it's like twightlight zone.. a never ending cycle of not ready.


I am not even going to comment on this anymore. She has lowered the bar so much that she doesn't realize she is using a different measure from others. For her 12 is A LOT of matches. :tape:
A totally distorted view of reality is not going to help her get back to where she claims she wants.
Nope, that's putting it lightly. Having a different (lower) standard than others is a sure death when it comes to accomplishing anything.
Someone should tell her that her proclaimed ambitions and her means of getting there do not square. But then, I am not sure she really harbors the ambitions she declares in the press.

They are probably telling her to lower her goals in order to avoid inner pressure and disappointment. Again.. they handle this in the entirely wrong way.

And I think Ana talks much more than she believes. Lowering goals will lead to her believing less.. and when she faces an opportunity she just can't take it because it wasn't originally in her plans.

I don't know, but her last few pressers got me worried that we are again entering the space in which she apparently dwells when she has no coach - just all over the place in the pressers and general confusion and lack of clear idea of what she wants and how to accomplish it. Souns frighteningly similar to the phase before Heinz which was full of pearls of pressers. I hope I am wrong.

I've been feeling this way since AO. I thought she was past that.. she had been gaining sobriety in her pressers since last summer. And I thought the way she saw her match against Henin at Hopman Cup was pretty accurate and honest.. but then.. from AO on, her pressers have been appaling to me.. just complete confusion and no clarity about what happened or is happening.

I miss Heinz.. :cry:

Right. IMO, that was the worst decision she made in her career, and not playing USO that year with injury. You know, just because she lost that one match didn't necessarily mean she had to keep freefalling, she could have stopped the freefall with a little effort. If not in the next tourney, than the next one.
However, early exit from Wimbly has robbed her of a much bigger opportunity. Had she prepared properly for that Wimby, she could have gone deep on the tide of her RG victory and right away get off her back the monkey of playing under the pressure of expectations, even before she became aware of them. Plus, this time b/w RG and Wimbly that she had on her hands, as we now know, was the time she had to dwell on this success, making it bigger, thinking about expectations, and just generally overthinking it and we know how that works out for her. Instead of just taking it in stride. (But I blaim a little bit Serbian mentality for that as well. It was such a huge success that she simply had to give herself some time to enjoy it enstead of pushing forward to make the most of it.)
To this day I am not sure that Ana has figured out the importance of momentum and tides in achieving success. Judging by her assessment that playing USO 08 was her worst decision, and her schedule, I think she hasn't. Too bad, when she does, it could be too late.

If she ever does... but yeah, spot on. I also think the worst decision was skipping Eastbourne.. then it was one bad thing lead to another and another and another.. and more bad decisions.

About pressure.. I just read a quote from Ana in an article about serbian tennis and Djokovic, and even though she refers to other people, it could also be said something alike of how badly she handles pressure. Shouldn't pressure be a priviledge? Champions grow under pressure.

This is the quote: Ms. Ivanovic says of the courts of her childhood: "When you have perfect facilities, perfect coaches, perfect preparation, many times it doesn't happen. You feel like, 'Oh, now I have to do it,' and you forget that you play because you love it."

I guess you can also say she forgot at times she plays for the love of it. I think the schedule says a lot about her desire to play.. when she wanted to play tennis at the end of last year, she was quick to add tournaments. This withdrawal thing is just repeating 2009/early 2010, when she was not really into it.

Well, that's what happens when amateurs play psychologits. They want to help, but they don't know how. Now, why it is ok to ask for help regarding physical fitness, but not mental, that I don't know. Probably a little bit of Serbian mentality as well.

I don't know either.. I mean.. Ana actually thinks she needs no help in that. It's like the mentality isn't the problem for her, and it is.. it is a big problem. Her absolute refusal of even addressing the possibility is frustrating.. if only she knew how much it could make a difference in her performance, and how much her mental game is dragging her down. Sad...

gaviotabr
Apr 16th, 2011, 11:54 AM
Also.. being satisfied with APDP, which can never be more than some temporary solution.. is also very telling. Just nobody all the time in her back telling her the things as they are.. APDP is barely around anyway, so she can just avoid facing things. :o

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:13 PM
Also.. being satisfied with APDP, which can never be more than some temporary solution.. is also very telling. Just nobody all the time in her back telling her the things as they are.. APDP is barely around anyway, so she can just avoid facing things. :o

Precisely. She can focus on fitness. :rolleyes:
I mean, I think her fitness is now decent. How much more fit does she need to get? There are many players with way worse fitness and it isn't stopping them from playing well.
I bet you that Kim and Serena will work out fitness issues quicker once they come back.
Let's move on and focus on the game of tennis.
It is also convenient way of avoiding the apparently unpleasant issue of the coach.

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:23 PM
This is the quote:

Ms. Ivanovic says of the courts of her childhood: "When you have perfect facilities, perfect coaches, perfect preparation, many times it doesn't happen. You feel like, 'Oh, now I have to do it,' and you forget that you play because you love it."



You know this is the sentence that caught my eye, too.
I feel all of her issues are a subconscious way of avoiding having to feel like in this above sentence.
Because, imagine, if she were fit, if she were match ready, if there were no issues, she would feel like: Oh, now I have no excuses. Now I have to do it.
And the construction: have to do it. :rolleyes:
I just wish she were better at detecting opportunities and not expectations, but unfortunately her whole mindset is like that, and there is no one to rectify it, in fact people are probably feeding into it.

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 08:14 PM
http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:327303-Fed-kupIvanoviceva-sacuvala-nadu

So, JJ and her mom left the stadium at the beginning of Ana's match, and didn't come back. Because she "was exhausted from terrible cold". But tomorrow she will most likely summon all her strength to play the singles, and let someone else play doubles. :rolleyes:
And then people talk about Ana and JJ as if they are equal in this feud. Like "they should grow up" or something. As if their roles in this idiocy are symmetric. No, they're not.
I mean, hello? She was there during BoJo's match, too exhausted to stay for Ana's match, but will nevertheless play singles and not doubles. Is there ANYONE out there who believes this?

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 08:17 PM
I do wonder who Vranes is going to go with tomorrow.

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 08:29 PM
And there is also a rumor what those things not to be made public are. Apparently JJ refused to play. Hmmmm I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised.
http://sportservis.pressonline.rs/wsw/index.php?p=91&ni=21521&PHPSESSID=7d7a9c87890ef1d73fc92ecac8c8ae99

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 08:31 PM
Geez I how much shit surrounds this team. There is always something. I don't think there was one time when they didn't have some sort of shit going on. Or as JJ fans like to call it "drama".
I honestly admire Ana for wanting anything to do with it. I certainly wouldn't.

jelenacg
Apr 16th, 2011, 08:55 PM
JJ is not my favorite person but jourtnalist are just using this situation to write shit :o It would be pretty much the same if the roles were reserved and Ana wasn`t playing

Idiots ,they don`t even realise(or maybe they do but just don`t care) that they are just making this situation worse :o
If they really wanted good for the team they would at least wait until this FC tie is finished

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:02 PM
Right, but you have to agree that JJ not playing put everyone in WTF mode. The situation just begs for speculations. If that was the tactic of Vranes...he got it. That's precisely why I hate this whole competition. There is always this.
Just hope that tomorrow they can win. But honestly I don't know who would be the best choice for tomorrow, even if JJ is healthy.

JAS_
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:05 PM
Also, in this pic JJ doesn't look like someone who spitefully refused to play, but again, nothing can surprise me anymore from her (or her mom, should I say?)

http://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2011&mm=04&dd=16&nav_id=506618

cocco80
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:21 PM
Jelena is a well-known drama queen. SHe thinks she should get some special treatment. I've heard some "behind the scenes" stories about her shameless behavior from way back, I'm afraid things got out of hand by now. She's a spoiled brat, bitter because she'll always stay in the shadow of Baby A.

I almost feel sorry for her, but then she goes and does some stupid thing which makes me NOT sorry for her whatsoever.

ANa is taking the high road (with Dani and Jelena). I admire her for that. She's a smart girl. :yeah: and classy [unlike some] ;)

jelenacg
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:44 PM
Right, but you have to agree that JJ not playing put everyone in WTF mode. The situation just begs for speculations. If that was the tactic of Vranes...he got it. That's precisely why I hate this whole competition. There is always this.
Just hope that tomorrow they can win. But honestly I don't know who would be the best choice for tomorrow, even if JJ is healthy.

Yes i agree .Especially now that they started talking about how her form is/was questionable. :spit:
I mean she had a couple of SFs this year and even SF on green clay just before this tie .So that story is also :facepalm:
Anyway imo it comes to 2 things: 1) JJ is really sick and decided she isn`t going to die for Serbia during this tie
2) There are some issues between her/Ana/FC coach/Serbian tennis federation

I think she won`t keep her mouth shout so we`ll hear from her when this tie is over :lol:
Remember Snezana last year after doubles match :lol: Probably something like that

gaviotabr
Apr 17th, 2011, 04:35 PM
Fed team: We did not want to risk with Ana

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FED team doctor said that Ana's injury is more serious nature, but the coaching staff estimated that it is better to surrender the match Cibulkovoj.


Ana Ivanovic's injury ret. Dominica Cibulkovoj second day of fighting Fed Cup team Serbia and Slovakia, and led his team in an awkward position. However, there was Jelena Jankovic, who pulled a victory over Daniel Hantuhovom and won the deciding doubles-match.

During today's match against Cibulkova Ana has felt pain in his stomach, and every two-handed backhand, which is her strongest weapon, hitting it with a painful look. In the second set, Ana and coaching staff were "throwing the towel."

Serbian team doctor Fed Zdeslav Milinkovic said the coaching staff did not want to risk, as Ana Ivanovic's injury would not worsen.

"Anna came to Slovakia very well prepared. Unfortunately, in today's match felt the pain from the front left side of the abdominal wall. The muscle is injured it several months ago at the Australian Open. The pain is getting stronger every time he played two-handed backhand. You muscles are extremely important for the punch, a coach and I and the entire coaching staff, we decided it would be smarter to Ana before, "said team doctor.

Milinkovic added that her sister insisted to continue to play, but the coaching staff was against it.

"To her it was hard because it's a great girl, great fighter," said Milinkovic, who added that Anna is now fine and that additional reviews, including an ultrasound showed no bleeding, nor that it is a serious violation.

"The scar is, revealed to ultrasound, but no serious injuries. Anna is now in therapy, there is no pain and we believe that for four or five days should be back in training," added the doctor of the Serbian team.

http://www.mondo.rs/s203518/Sport/Tenis/FED_tim-_Nismo_hteli_da_rizikujemo_sa_Anom.html

InsideOut.
Apr 17th, 2011, 04:45 PM
OK, that's good. Although the article has some gaping errors...

JJ hasn't won the doubles match yet, and probably won't. :spit:
Two-handed backhand is SO not Ana's biggest weapon. :spit:

gaviotabr
Apr 17th, 2011, 04:50 PM
OK, that's good. Although the article has some gaping errors...

JJ hasn't won the doubles match yet, and probably won't. :spit:
Two-handed backhand is SO not Ana's biggest weapon. :spit:

What she actually said is in the audio though I think.. it's that the BH is one of the main shots in the game.

It did seem it was a team decision, because Dejan was the first to shake hands.

gaviotabr
Apr 18th, 2011, 10:27 AM
Ana on the ground for several days

Ana Ivanovic injured a stomach muscle in Fed Cup match against Slovakia, but the injury is of a grave nature. Serbian tennis player stretched muscle and is expected to return to the field for several days.

Ana Ivanovic's injury not as serious as at first seemed. Currently in Spain, and training should continue for several days. Medical examination showed that abdominal muscle, which is a Serbian tennis player injured during his match against Slovakia at the Fed Cup, it is not cracked but merely stretched.


Ivanovic will not be able to train a few days. Currently on a visit to a leading doctor in Spain who is familiar with this type of injury. It will remain to work with him for a while, and then continue to train.

"Anna is thrilled to be part of a winning team and congratulate Jelena and Alexandra on uzbuljivoj win," said the RTS its media representative Gavin Versi.

Should not be any unforeseen problems, Ana Ivanovic should not miss a tournament. Next to that is reported is Mutua Madrilenja Open in Madrid, which starts on 30 April.

http://www.rts.rs/page/sport/ci/story/33/%D0%A2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81/877632/%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80 %D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%83+%D0%B7%D0%B0+%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BA %D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE+%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD% D0%B0.html

soul
Apr 18th, 2011, 01:47 PM
I hope she gets well soon; but insist that without a pyscho,trainer,coach so whatever we will face the same results-I wish not of course- as time goes by
Why she still se up her team;WHY, WHY,WHY???????????????

-NAJ-
Apr 18th, 2011, 07:19 PM
From JJ's interview about Ana
http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=19423402#post19423402
* There were rumors about your relationship with Ivanovic, but you have to one another offered reconciliation.


- Nothing can be for Serbia to achieve one without the other. This victory is very much Ana, just like all the other girls. Because of my condition I could not sit on the bench all the time and cheer for her first day, but I was watching on Sunday when they played against Cibulkove - says Jelena. - it is ridiculous to talk about that I have something against her and that I do not care that she wins and is looking forward to. I was overjoyed when she beat Hantuchova, this victory meant a lot to us. I'm sorry that she got injured, it was a real setback for her, but I want her to recover as soon as possible and again begins to making triumphs.

It turned out that you are both necessary for success in the Fed Cup?


- I am glad that we were the best players and we have together contributed to the success of the team. Just to be healthy and winning the title will not fail - concluded Jankovic.

дalex
Apr 18th, 2011, 07:26 PM
but I want her to recover as soon as possible and again begins to infrequent triumphs.

:sobbing:

-NAJ-
Apr 18th, 2011, 07:33 PM
It's google translate,

JAS_
Apr 18th, 2011, 08:37 PM
Cahill said this on twitter:

@Ajde_10 hopefully nothing serious.. she's had no problem with it since b4 Indian Wells

So, she played IW and Miami without problems. Why did it flare up now? Fitness? Stress? Playing two days in a row? And what are the "niggling" injuries she mentioned when withdrew from Marbella. I thought that was the one, but now I don't know...

JAS_
Apr 18th, 2011, 08:42 PM
Matt Cronin:
So Ivanovic will rehab this week then off to Madrid, Rome & RG where if she's healthy she 1 of my top 5 favorites to win

I was also optimistic after the match with Dani...

jelenacg
Apr 18th, 2011, 09:40 PM
^^
Jinx ,jinx :ras:
He is always jinxing someone :ras:
Now i`m worried :o

gaviotabr
Apr 18th, 2011, 11:19 PM
Cahill said this on twitter:

@Ajde_10 hopefully nothing serious.. she's had no problem with it since b4 Indian Wells

So, she played IW and Miami without problems. Why did it flare up now? Fitness? Stress? Playing two days in a row? And what are the "niggling" injuries she mentioned when withdrew from Marbella. I thought that was the one, but now I don't know...

I think Ana might have been too tense during these days.. playing Fed Cup might be extra pressure on her and she did say she was very nervous before the Hantuchova match. Even if she deals with it well mentally, it might still get her muscles tensed up and more prone to stretching or tearing. Since the abs have scar tissue from an earlier injury and are so easy to flare up, it did. Like everything worked for it.

I honestly don't think she had any niggling injuries before Marbella.. she just decided not to play there and had to mention some health issue.

Matt Cronin:
So Ivanovic will rehab this week then off to Madrid, Rome & RG where if she's healthy she 1 of my top 5 favorites to win

I was also optimistic after the match with Dani...

RG is so wide open, anyone can win. The thing now is not only that Ana will have another stop and go, another lost week of preparation... it's that it's hard to think she will have the nerves or/and the body to go deep in a slam. If she had a clear and determined mind, and the body to acompany it, then she could indeed be a top 5 contender.

What in the Dani match got you optimistic?

The 2nd Law
Apr 19th, 2011, 01:28 AM
That JJ interview was very nice to read :)

JAS_
Apr 19th, 2011, 07:41 AM
What in the Dani match got you optimistic?

The result. :)
Straight set win, played pretty great after 2:2 in the first I thought, her forhand was working, serve, return, her movement...She was composed, fairly aggressive and the result was never in doubt (after 2:2).
It was a first match in a stressful enironment, and she came out firing. The oponent could have given her a lot of troubles if she gave her an opening, as evidenced in the match with JJ.
What's not to like?
If we cannot be optimistic about this win, then what do we expect from her really?
To double bagel everyone? Make no errors whatsoever?
I don't think this match is the best tennis match, but it was a good match from her and gave me confidence about Ana's form - as a starting point from which to build on till RG. It made me remember why she won RG.
Now, with this injury, I don't know...

JAS_
Apr 19th, 2011, 07:52 AM
The second match was different. She resorted to pushing in the first set a lot, pufballs all over the place, but how much of that was her inability to hit a decent backhand and serve, I don't know...The beginning of the second set was pretty awesome. Maybe she should realize that if she played like that all the time, she would make matches shorter and stress her body less?
But in any event, glad she will be seeded in Madrid. I honestly hope she makes sure she is top 16 in RG. I was of course rooting for more, but now I just hope she isn't injured.

gaviotabr
Apr 19th, 2011, 11:08 AM
The result. :)
Straight set win, played pretty great after 2:2 in the first I thought, her forhand was working, serve, return, her movement...She was composed, fairly aggressive and the result was never in doubt (after 2:2).
It was a first match in a stressful enironment, and she came out firing. The oponent could have given her a lot of troubles if she gave her an opening, as evidenced in the match with JJ.
What's not to like?
If we cannot be optimistic about this win, then what do we expect from her really?
To double bagel everyone? Make no errors whatsoever?
I don't think this match is the best tennis match, but it was a good match from her and gave me confidence about Ana's form - as a starting point from which to build on till RG. It made me remember why she won RG.
Now, with this injury, I don't know...

Ok.. yeah.. as a first match on clay it was good, and I liked to hear what Ana said afterwards, that she was in the middle of a preparation period and this would help her see what she had to work on. Unfortunately now her preparation period is gone. Even if she manages to come back at the end of the week, as she intends, she will have to start out slowly. So instead of 2 weeks of high level training, she will at most have a few days. :(

Good thing is that RG is still 5 weeks away.. so hopefully she will have enough time to recover and fine tune her game.

The second match was different. She resorted to pushing in the first set a lot, pufballs all over the place, but how much of that was her inability to hit a decent backhand and serve, I don't know...The beginning of the second set was pretty awesome. Maybe she should realize that if she played like that all the time, she would make matches shorter and stress her body less?
But in any event, glad she will be seeded in Madrid. I honestly hope she makes sure she is top 16 in RG. I was of course rooting for more, but now I just hope she isn't injured.

I think Ana didn't feel the injury until 3-3 in the first set, but that is only my perception. The way she let Domi completely boss her around was somehow worrisome to me. She can't afford to begin matches like this against better opponents or she will see herself in a big hole in the blink of an eye. When she went for her shots in the second, Domi had no chance. She has to realize that's how she needs to play in order to go far in big tournaments. It seems she only did it because she had no choice. Why does she choose to play pusher style? It never works.

And yeah.. now we can only hope Ana gets to RG 100% healthy and ready to play well. If she can do some damage there she can get a top 8 seed for Wimbledon.

gaviotabr
Apr 20th, 2011, 11:49 AM
Article from Matt Cronin abpout clay season. He has faith in Ana, but factors in the injury situation:

WTA players lack a love for red clay
Matt Cronin
Bio
Matt Cronin is a senior editor at Inside Tennis magazine and the co-owner of the award-winning ********************.


Updated Apr 20, 2011 3:20 AM ET

The WTA's European red clay-court season begins in earnest this week in Stuttgart, Germany, with many of the world's top-ranked players participating in the indoor event, but not one of them can be called a standout favorite at the upcoming French Open, which kicks off in just five short weeks.

With 13-time Grand Slam champion Serena Williams on the sidelines, four-time French Open champion Justine Henin having retired again, and four-time Grand Slam champ Kim Clijsters' ability to play uncertain because of an ankle injury, this is perhaps the most wide-open field in the history of the Open Era.

No. 1 Caroline Wozniacki did a fine job in winning Charleston, S.C., on green clay two weeks ago. But she has never won a major red clay-court crown, and last year at the French Open she was spun around by eventual champion Francesca Schiavone.

The Italian has complained of overplaying and skipped the Fed Cup last week in order to get a little R-and-R, but at 30 years old and with virtually nonstop play over the past year, it's highly unlikely she can repeat as champion.

So who exactly does that leave as formidable contenders? No one from the United States, at this point. Serena — who is likely out until at least Wimbledon — is the only current U.S. player to have won the tournament (in 2002), and her sister Venus is the only one to have finished runner-up (also in 2002).

Venus is having a very hard time just returning from injury, let alone trying to win Roland Garros, where her results have declined over the past five years. As we saw last weekend in Fed Cup when the U.S. fell to Germany on red clay, as game and feisty as teenagers Melanie Oudin and Christina McHale can be, they are both highly undeveloped players on the surface.

Bethanie Mattek-Sands, who skipped the tie to rest a sore back and hip, would be the first one to tell you that her attacking style isn't well suited to red clay.

A look at the 2011 results for players who have played excellent ball on the surface — namely Svetlana Kuznetsova, Ana Ivanovic, Dinara Safina, Sam Stosur and Jelena Jankovic — reveals that none of them is brimming with confidence.

If any one of them can make headway in Stuttgart this week or the upcoming high-level tournaments in Madrid and Rome in May, perhaps that player can enter the French Open as the standout favorite. But they have all had spotty years at best and, in the case of 2009 French Open champion Kuznetsova and 2010 runner-up Stosur, extremely below-par ones. It will be all they can do just to get the rhythm back in their games, much less exude confidence.

Without question, on a great day on clay 2008 French champion Ivanovic has shown she can beat anyone, but an abdominal injury suffered just before the Australian Open has kept her from charging back into the top 10. While she has come back from an emotionally draining stint outside of the top 50 back into the top 20, if she cannot get healthy (she was forced to retire in the second set of a Fed Cup match last weekend with a recurrence of the same injury), then she will not be able to play freely.

The same goes with former No. 1 Safina, who has been making progress and scored a win in Morocco on Monday, but just suffered another injury scare with her formerly broken back and is still lacking a bit of necessary power.

Without question, if you asked the WTA's top 30 players what their favorite surface is, only a handful would come up with clay, and most would say hard courts (a few would also say grass).

So unlike on the ATP Tour — where there is a phalanx of Spaniards and Argentines who love the dirt and prosper on it — only Schiavone, Spain's Maria Martinez, possibly France's Aravane Rezai, and maybe Slovakian Dominika Cibulkova and Romania's Alexandra Dulgheru would pick red clay.

Yes, some of the other Spanish and Italian women love red dirt, but competitors like No. 20 Flavia Pennetta of Italy actually have had better hard-court results, and Spain's most promising young player, Carla Suarez, can't get out of the doctor's office.

At this point, before any player potentially gets hot in the next month prior to Roland Garros opening its doors, there are only two players who would realistically be in anyone's top 5 picks: Wozniacki and No. 5 Victoria Azarenka, who just won back-to-back titles in Miami (on hard courts) and Marbella (on red clay).

If conditions are slow during the European clay court season and the summer comes in late, Wozniacki will be hard-pressed to win major crowns because she has trouble producing pace off her forehand side. As great of a mover and defensive player as she is, she isn't as comfortable sliding into wide shots on clay as she is skidding to a stop and setting up her shots on hard courts.

Azarenka can produce plenty of her own pace, and has improved her conditioning. But she has retired from plenty of matches in her young career, and until she proves she can last seven matches, she cannot be seen as a lock to win any major.

Belgian fans are praying that Clijsters can return and win Roland Garros without any warmup tournaments. But it's highly unlikely that the torn ligaments in her ankle will heal in time to give her enough confidence to go all out on a surface that can play havoc on sore muscles.

Russian Vera Zvonareva, who holds the No. 3 ranking despite having won only one decent-sized title over the past year, has had some good results in Paris, but does anyone expect her to win a major after she was clubbed in her last matches at Wimbledon, the U.S. Open and the Australian Open? Maybe just her most ardent supporters.

Perhaps a player will come out of the wilderness like Schiavone did in 2010. A good, but not great, player who finally found her nerve at the not-so-young tennis age of 29. Or perhaps Wozniacki or Azarenka will finally fulfill her potential and win a Grand Slam. But from the looks of things in mid-April, you could throw 30 names into a hat, pick one out and be just as likely to be holding the winner's name on it than if you projected a winner based on form and past performances.


http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/players-dont-love-red-clay-french-open-is-up-for-grabs-041911

gaviotabr
Apr 24th, 2011, 03:06 AM
Ana Ivanovic: A model pro but she desperately needs the right man

She was the Grand Slam winner with the world at her feet but has tumbled down the rankings. Now – after trying out seven coaches in five years – she may finally have met her love match. Paul Newman meets Ana Ivanovic

Sunday, 24 April 2011

'I'm an intense person and I over-analyse everything. I need someone who's going to make sure I chill out a little,' says Ivanovic


The best-looking woman in the history of tennis – as nominated by Melbourne newspaper The Age – is struggling to find the right man. Ana Ivanovic, who has won more awards for her beauty than for her tennis in recent years, has started working with the Australian coach Darren Cahill, but it is probably just as well that he is employed by adidas rather than by the 23-year-old Serb. Cahill is the third coach to work with Ivanovic in the last six months and the seventh in the last five years, not counting those who have helped her on a temporary basis.

Since parting company in 2006 with Zoltan Kuharsky, who was her coach in her early years on the tour, Ivanovic has hired and fired David Taylor, Craig Kardon and Heinz Gunthardt, while a trial period with Antonio van Grichen lasted a few weeks. Her most successful coaching association in that time was with Sven Groeneveld, another member of the adidas player development programme.

Ivanovic's fitness trainers have had similar shelf lives. Pierre Paganini, Scott Byrnes, Damian Prasad and Marija Lojanica have all come and gone. Most recently, Ivanovic has worked with Gil Reyes, who made his name with Andre Agassi and is also an adidas man.

While the adidas connection is of great benefit to players who are between coaches – Andy Murray is currently taking advantage of the programme – it is hardly a long-term solution. Cahill, Groeneveld and their team help a number of players, have limited time available and are not allowed to work with anyone facing an adidas stablemate in their next match.

Considering her track record with coaches, you might expect Ivanovic to be difficult and confrontational, but nothing could be further from the truth. The former

world No 1, as good-natured a character as you would wish to meet, has a warm smile and a kind word for everyone. She says there is nothing she wants more than to establish a successful long-term relationship with a coach who can take her back to the top of the game, which was where she stood after winning the French Open three years ago.

"I know that us girls aren't the easiest to coach," Ivanovic said. "It's a strange situation. A coach is in charge of a lot of things, but on the other hand we're the boss. On the men's tour it's a bit different because I think for a coach it's easier if the guy is the boss. All of a sudden they have a girl who is the boss. It takes a certain ego to be able to accept that. I don't think there are many coaches who are willing to do it. There are a lot of them who try to control a lot.

"You want a coach who is going to push you and be strong and be in your corner when it's tough, but sometimes you have coaches who think they are more important than the players. That's where the conflicts come."

Had she thought of employing a female coach? "There aren't many woman coaches in general and I actually think it's good to have a male coach," Ivanovic said. "Guys and girls have different mentalities. Girls are so stressed about everything. Guys take everything much more lightly. That's great and it's something we have to learn from. I think one woman on a team is enough!"

Spending a week in the company of her fellow countryman Novak Djokovic at the Hopman Cup in Perth in January was an eye-opener. "It's so much more relaxed with the men than on the women's tour and so much more fun," Ivanovic said. "They work really hard, but it's such a positive environment. I thought, 'Everyone around me is so stressed and down'. I'm like, 'Just be more bubbly and happy and upbeat'."

Ivanovic finds the intensity of a coach-player relationship hard to handle. "You can end up having breakfast, lunch and dinner with your coach, invite them to your home and it becomes so friendly," she said. "Then the border becomes a little bit lost and the coach thinks: 'Now I'm safe, I don't need to work as hard.' Then when you have to be more strict or even challenge the coach it becomes very hard because it gets personal. When you're working, you're working, but I try to keep a distance and let the coach do their own thing outside of practice.

"It's hard for players. We have our lives as well. I find it very hard to find a balance between that. A lot of coaches are very intense, which is good once you are working, but you don't want that all the time. I don't need someone who's going to tell me what to do because I know what I want to achieve and I know I have to work hard for it.

"Hard work is part of it, and I understand this, so I don't need someone to push me in that way. I just need someone to understand me as a person and understand what I need, someone who's going to be a little bit relaxed, because I'm such an intense person. I'm such a perfectionist and I over-analyse everything. I need someone who's just going to make sure I chill out a little."

When she beat Dinara Safina to win the French Open three years ago in her third appearance in a Grand Slam final in 13 months – she lost in Paris to Justine Henin the previous year and to Maria Sharapova in Australia – Ivanovic seemed to have the world at her feet. Her booming forehand was described as the best since Steffi Graf, while her victory proved that she could conquer her nerves on the biggest stages.

She was world No 1 for 12 weeks after her Paris triumph, but a loss of form and niggling injuries saw her slide down the rankings and she even dropped out of the world's top 50. She has failed to go beyond the last 16 in all 11 Grand Slams since winning the French Open. When she won a minor tournament in Austria last October it was her first win for two years.

Recent performances, including a win over her great rival Jelena Jankovic to reach the quarter-finals in Indian Wells, have taken her back to No 17 in the rankings and although it is early days she is enjoying her coaching set-up. She has a full-time hitting partner in Olivier Morel, while Cahill is a highly respected coach. The nature of the association also means that he simply does not have time to have breakfast, lunch and dinner with her every day.

Besides, Ivanovic knows that getting back to the top – which she believes she can do – is down to her rather than a coach. "At the end of the day, you're alone out there and you have to fight your own way," she added.

Life and times: A tale of sex, swimming pools and superstitions

Born in Belgrade, Serbia, the 23-year-old now lives in Basle, Switzerland.

Mother Dragana is a lawyer and father Miroslav is a businessman.

She was inspired to play tennis after watching Monica Seles on TV aged five.

Trained during lulls between Nato bombing raids on Belgrade in 1999. Practised in an indoor swimming pool converted into tennis courts because of a shortage of facilities.

Won the French Open in 2008, her sole Grand Slam success to date.

Serve has been clocked at 124.9mph, the fifth-fastest of all time.

Has a number of superstitions, including avoiding stepping on the lines of the court.

Named ********************'s "sexiest player of the year" five years in a row. Also won awards as "hottest female athlete" and "most beautiful body".

President of Serbia Boris Tadic attended her 20th birthday party.

Research: Michael Lynch

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/ana-ivanovic-a-model-pro-but-she-desperately-needs-the-right-man-2274160.html

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7155/68434519.png

gaviotabr
Apr 24th, 2011, 03:15 AM
This piece of journalism writting is so contradictory.. it says Paul Newman meets Ana Ivanovic, but it's all old quotes. Nothing new.

Then it says there is nothing Ana wants more than to find the right man and stablish a long term succesful partnership, but it says she is happy with her current situation. It says she might have found this guy in Cahill, but admits adidas coaches simply can never be long term solutions. It says Ana wants someone to get her back to the top of the game, it says it's not a coach but only herself who can do it. Pure contradiction all around. But I feel like this is what happens to Ana as well... the approach and the execution just don't make sense.

As for Ana herself.. what exactly does she want from a coach? Because she talked talked talked, and I can only envision a robot to have all those characteristics. She should see that the relationships have failed not only because of them, but because of herself as well. She should perhaps realize why people were so down and stressed around her.... not only working with her is the most unstable job in the business, she can stress out anyone. It comes from her and it's something she should work on if she is ever to give herself a chance of being a better player. For now, it's only wasting time and career.

InsideOut.
Apr 24th, 2011, 03:50 AM
I intend to write to Ana and nominate Izzy as her coach. ;) I can imagine her team automatically enlarging to include a good fitness coach, a physio and an Izzy screaming at her to stop pushing. :lol:

gaviotabr
Apr 24th, 2011, 11:28 AM
I intend to write to Ana and nominate Izzy as her coach. ;) I can imagine her team automatically enlarging to include a good fitness coach, a physio and an Izzy screaming at her to stop pushing. :lol:

I would be fired in less than 5 minutes. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
Apr 24th, 2011, 11:37 AM
This is not an article about Ana... it's about Heinz working with Petkovic.

Petkovic is working with former coach Graf
(AFP) - 33 minutes ago
Stuttgart - Andrea Petkovic has opted for the services of the former Steffi Graf coach Heinz Günthardt. The Swiss confirmed on the edge of the WTA tournament in Stuttgart are currently working with the best German tennis player. "The point is that I will incorporate my ideas and experiences and give an input. I will not every day working with Andrea, " said Günthardt the Sports Information Service (SID). The 52-year-old ex-pro Steffi Graf had in the last eight years of her career looked after.
Heinz Günthardt is already on Easter Monday to travel to Darmstadt in order to train in the next few days with Petkovic. Also, the next tournament in Madrid (from 30 April), he will travel with the Germans. However, it remains the Serb Petar Popovic of the main responsible of coach Petkovic.
Günthardt, who works as a commentator for Swiss television, had trained from February to November 2010, the former world number one Ana Ivanovic (Serbia). The cooperation ended because Günthardt not because of his media activities could devote more time.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ikK_-olNSknMn1yZ2c0xImgjt5MA?docId=CNG.779468cac3976c6b 8d31f182d40d207e.41

Even getting Heinz part time back would give Ana a coach for more time than she has now.. it's really.. she is not even giving herself a chance.

Petko will be top 10 this year before Ana, if Ana manages to be, and she was miles behind when the year started. She is doing all she can to be a better player.. Ana, on the other hand, is not. Far, far from it. She has tons of little niggling injuries, but has never even contemplated having a physio with her.. she complains about everything in a coach, and has no team.. sorry Ana, adidas coaches are NOT your team.

JAS_
Apr 25th, 2011, 08:57 AM
And here is an article also NOT about Ana, but about Woz thinking of hiring Navratilova as a consultant. :sobbing:
She already has her dad, has Sven as part time cocah, and wants to add. Why? Because she is not getting the results she wants. Meanwhile Ana is of the opinion that when you don't get the results you want, you just need to keep doing the same thing that was not getting you the results you want. :weirdo:

http://tennis.com/articles/templates/ticker.aspx?articleid=11630&zoneid=6

As for the Ana article by Paul Newman, I can only hope that this is a collage of previous statements of Ana made at different moments of time and phases of her carreer otherwise :hysteric::help:

JAS_
Apr 25th, 2011, 09:01 AM
Also, besides Ivan Lendl, I was at times dreaming of Ana hiring Navs. Would be so awesome for her. But NO. Woz is going to take everything. Well, I can't feel sorry for Ana for this. Just mad :mad::fiery:

gaviotabr
Apr 25th, 2011, 10:16 AM
Also, besides Ivan Lendl, I was at times dreaming of Ana hiring Navs. Would be so awesome for her. But NO. Woz is going to take everything. Well, I can't feel sorry for Ana for this. Just mad :mad::fiery:

I've had the dream of Navratilova coaching Ana ver since I first saw her commentating one of Ana's matches. You could see how much she liked and believed in Ana's game, at the same time that she could see how to improve it and what Ana had to work on. I think it had the potential of a very successful partnership, if Ana had the right mentality and not the serial firer one.

Unfortunately, Ana has stated in more than one ocasion that she thinks one woman in a team is enough! Actually.. her actions speak louder than words, so she just thinks one person in a team is almost too much, and that is herself! :spit::banghead:

gaviotabr
Apr 25th, 2011, 10:29 AM
And here is an article also NOT about Ana, but about Woz thinking of hiring Navratilova as a consultant. :sobbing:
She already has her dad, has Sven as part time cocah, and wants to add. Why? Because she is not getting the results she wants. Meanwhile Ana is of the opinion that when you don't get the results you want, you just need to keep doing the same thing that was not getting you the results you want. :weirdo:

http://tennis.com/articles/templates/ticker.aspx?articleid=11630&zoneid=6

That's the thing that bothers me the most. Ana is just not doing everything she can, and the acts like she is, getting all frustrated and such. Sorry, but in top level sports, if you don't do all you can to be the best you can be, there is no talent in the world that can save you, you will get behind.

Look at Woz.. even look at Petko.. they are trying to get people to help them, they are trying to do everything in their power to improve and see different ways to make progress. Ana, on the other hand, is just insisting on doing things that already didn't work in the past, can't take people around her telling her the real things, and just isn't willing to do whatever it takes to be better and acomplish what she says she wants. She always gets back to her APDP comfort zone, to not have anyone around her who actually cares and tells what a wrong approach she has. She is not even giving herself the chance to be better. I'm sorry, but you just can't expect to really acomplish anything that way.

The bad decisions and the refusal to be willing to do what it takes, even if it makes you get out of your comfort zone, is what got her in such a slump and has her as an average player now. It's sad.. Truth is, she can't complain.. you can't hope to acomplish big things if you don't want to compromise and to whatever it takes to improve and give yourself the chance. If she wants it only her way, then she can't be upset if she doesn't get it. She should realize her way is not enough.

As for the Ana article by Paul Newman, I can only hope that this is a collage of previous statements of Ana made at different moments of time and phases of her carreer otherwise :hysteric::help:

I think I had read some of it before.. but I searched around and it wasn't the same words. So it's probably some sort of interview. I think The Independent is a reliable newspaper, even though I don't think the article is the best piece of journalism, as it makes contradictory points. Then again, Ana is one big contradiction herself in her quotes, so what should I expect? :tape::help:

It's really.. Her thought process and how she sees the image of the coach and of herself is really.. I have no words.. no wonder she can be such a mess on court. :o

InsideOut.
Apr 25th, 2011, 11:09 AM
I would be fired in less than 5 minutes. :sobbing:

I wouldn't be surprised; you seem to be a Krajan-type coach. :unsure:

HowardH
Apr 25th, 2011, 11:28 AM
This piece of journalism writing is so contradictory....Pure contradiction all around. But I feel like this is what happens to Ana as well... the approach and the execution just don't make sense.

Contradiction is Ana's strong point. She can think two things at once and do a third. The third normally involves missing in the net or long, however.

As for Ana herself.. what exactly does she want from a coach? Because she talked talked talked, and I can only envision a robot to have all those characteristics.

She's like a girl (or a guy) who wants a dream partner who ticks every box. She has impossible requirements. No one can measure up. So she can't have a good relationship with a coach. She's always thinking, you aren't my "dream coach". This also probably has something to do with why she insists on having a male coach. Her "dream coach" is a guy after all so no woman can fit the bill. So instead, she just has "friend coach" relationships, like with the adidas team. They don't have to fit the bill, after all they're "just friends". But until she deals with this issue she cannot have a real coach/student relationship with anyone.

I intend to write to Ana and nominate Izzy as her coach. ;) I can imagine her team automatically enlarging to include a good fitness coach, a physio and an Izzy screaming at her to stop pushing. :lol:

I would be fired in less than 5 minutes. :sobbing:

Yes you would. Because you would give good advice which would imply that, prior to your advice, Ana had been doing something stupid. E.g. Izzy says "do this!" Then Ana says "but I normally do the complete opposite of that." Izzy says, "well that's why you've been losing." Ana says "you're making me feel like I've been making mistakes, I don't like the way you coach... I think I need to fire you, hope you don't mind."

This is not an article about Ana... it's about Heinz working with Petkovic.



http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ikK_-olNSknMn1yZ2c0xImgjt5MA?docId=CNG.779468cac3976c6b 8d31f182d40d207e.41

Even getting Heinz part time back would give Ana a coach for more time than she has now.. it's really.. she is not even giving herself a chance.

Petko will be top 10 this year before Ana, if Ana manages to be, and she was miles behind when the year started. She is doing all she can to be a better player.. Ana, on the other hand, is not. Far, far from it. She has tons of little niggling injuries, but has never even contemplated having a physio with her.. she complains about everything in a coach, and has no team.. sorry Ana, adidas coaches are NOT your team.

Also, besides Ivan Lendl, I was at times dreaming of Ana hiring Navs. Would be so awesome for her. But NO. Woz is going to take everything. Well, I can't feel sorry for Ana for this. Just mad :mad::fiery:

Ana clearly can't take it when people tell her something that implies that her own idea is wrong. Which makes it damn hard to get help from anyone. She's conflicted. On the one hand, she could get help. On the other hand, maybe she should protect her fragile ego instead. Fortunately for them, the Woz and Petkorazzi don't have such issues.

Ana is still quite capable of getting some good results, due to her talent, without help. But those results will probably be scratchy, unreliable. She will play some very nice tennis on certain days, but I worry about what will happen under pressure and in matches against smart opponents who find a way to frustrate her. Ana's ideal gameplan, which should revolve around the serve and fh, should be quite simple, but Ana has shown before that she doesn't really understand tennis that well. She tends to overcomplicate things and an opponent can draw her into their way of playing.

gaviotabr
Apr 25th, 2011, 11:29 AM
I wouldn't be surprised; you seem to be a Krajan-type coach. :unsure:

No.. :lol: I would definitely not facepalm during matches or scream abuse at her during coaching time outs. :lol:

But I would tell Ana, all kindly, that she is just not doing all in her power to improve and that she is not commited enough.. that would be it for her, and she would fire me. :spit:

JAS_
Apr 25th, 2011, 11:38 AM
It's really.. Her thought process and how she sees the image of the coach and of herself is really.. I have no words.. no wonder she can be such a mess on court. :o

This.

I don't even know how to comment on some of the stuff. Like this:

Ivanovic finds the intensity of a coach-player relationship hard to handle. "You can end up having breakfast, lunch and dinner with your coach, invite them to your home and it becomes so friendly," she said. "Then the border becomes a little bit lost and the coach thinks: 'Now I'm safe, I don't need to work as hard.' Then when you have to be more strict or even challenge the coach it becomes very hard because it gets personal. When you're working, you're working, but I try to keep a distance and let the coach do their own thing outside of practice.

The coach thinks they needn't work as hard. :eek: What on Earth does she mean by that?
She is challenging them, and they take it personally? Um, what? :scratch::unsure:
Something tells me it's all the other way around.
Obviously, she has a difficulty maintaing the proper distance with a coach. First she lets them too close - like she did with Marija - didn't she spend litterally every minute with her? - and then it hurts when they criticize and she doesn't like it, or she can't tell them that maybe she disagrees with the dirction they are taking her in. Still, I am confused as to in what way can coaches possibly not work as hard?

"It's hard for players. We have our lives as well. I find it very hard to find a balance between that. A lot of coaches are very intense, which is good once you are working, but you don't want that all the time. I don't need someone who's going to tell me what to do because I know what I want to achieve and I know I have to work hard for it.

"Hard work is part of it, and I understand this, so I don't need someone to push me in that way. I just need someone to understand me as a person and understand what I need, someone who's going to be a little bit relaxed, because I'm such an intense person. I'm such a perfectionist and I over-analyse everything. I need someone who's just going to make sure I chill out a little."

What? :tape::help:
The coach you need for tennis, this you can find in a psychologist or a boyfriend.
She is so clueless it hurts.
It really pains me to think how much talent is wasted because of stubbornness and having only her immature self or a tennis ignorant team to make decisions for her.
The greatest problem now is that she is going to make finding a coach an issue of the same magnitude as the ball toss. And the way her mind works until that is resolved she ain't moving forward.

Again, just hoping this is mostly rehashed stuff put together, or else, we're screwed.

JAS_
Apr 25th, 2011, 11:45 AM
She's like a girl (or a guy) who wants a dream partner who ticks every box. She has impossible requirements. No one can measure up. So she can't have a good relationship with a coach. She's always thinking, you aren't my "dream coach". This also probably has something to do with why she insists on having a male coach. Her "dream coach" is a guy after all so no woman can fit the bill. So instead, she just has "friend coach" relationships, like with the adidas team. They don't have to fit the bill, after all they're "just friends". But until she deals with this issue she cannot have a real coach/student relationship with anyone.



So true. You totally nailed it.
And the thing about male/female coaches. :cuckoo:
There is one part of that talk I understand, the part where she almost sounds like a feminist. Where she says how male coaches have a hard time having a boss that is a girl. Then she goes on to say that the male coach is ideal.
Maybe she does it on purpose? Set up the opposite requirements for a coach in order to never have to commit to anyone? :o

gaviotabr
Apr 25th, 2011, 11:47 AM
Contradiction is Ana's strong point. She can think two things at once and do a third. The third normally involves missing in the net or long, however.

:spit:

She's like a girl (or a guy) who wants a dream partner who ticks every box. She has impossible requirements. No one can measure up. So she can't have a good relationship with a coach. She's always thinking, you aren't my "dream coach". This also probably has something to do with why she insists on having a male coach. Her "dream coach" is a guy after all so no woman can fit the bill. So instead, she just has "friend coach" relationships, like with the adidas team. They don't have to fit the bill, after all they're "just friends". But until she deals with this issue she cannot have a real coach/student relationship with anyone.

Exactly.. Deep down she knows APDP are not her coaches, are only some sort of support system, people who won't be around much, so they don't have to fulfill all her requirements. They don't demand too much from her, and she doesn't demand from them either. But that only leads to her always having a problem in her hands.. there is no permanent solution to her career.. just a temporary help in APDP. Until she faces the fact that she needs a long term solution and that goes through stablishing a long term relationship with a coach.. that there aren't perfect coaches, but people who can be a good fit, help her, learn with her and gro together.. until she faces this and accepts it and tries all it takes to succeed, in the relationship and in her sport, then she will be a bit adrift and lost, like she has been for so long.

Yes you would. Because you would give good advice which would imply that, prior to your advice, Ana had been doing something stupid. E.g. Izzy says "do this!" Then Ana says "but I normally do the complete opposite of that." Izzy says, "well that's why you've been losing." Ana says "you're making me feel like I've been making mistakes, I don't like the way you coach... I think I need to fire you, hope you don't mind."

That would be exactly what would happen! :spit:

Ana clearly can't take it when people tell her something that implies that her own idea is wrong. Which makes it damn hard to get help from anyone. Fortunately for them, the Woz and Petkorazzi don't have such issues.

Exctly. Ana says a lot that she learned from this and learned from that. I don't know what she is learning, because she keeps doing the very same things that didn't work. It certainly looks like she simply can't accept she is making mistakes, she can't accept she is wrong in her approach, and must point to all the wrong places as to why she fails. Then when someone tells her things as they are, she just doesn't believe it, thus all the firing. It's imposible to help someone who doesn't want to be helped.

Ana is still quite capable of getting some good results, due to her talent, without help. But those results will probably be scratchy, unreliable. She will play some very nice tennis on certain days, but I worry about what will happen under pressure and in matches against smart opponents who find a way to frustrate her.

Well... then she will fail. Because there is no real plan, no real solution to her game and career. So, it's as you said, she is so talented, she can just play awesome one day. But since there is no system to follow, the very next day can bring a shocker of a match.. Ups and downs.

What I can't believe is that there is nobody around her, who she can't fire, that doesn't see this and get her to understand her mistake. I mean.. I'm sure if she had a big management company they wouldn't be all flowers to her. There would be pep talks. I even sometimes wonder why APDP wants Ana to keep insisting in the mistake.. wouldn't adidas want Ana to have more success to showcase their products more often and in bigger arenas?

gaviotabr
Apr 25th, 2011, 11:53 AM
In the original danish press article that talks about Wozniacki possibly hiring Navratilova as a consultant, there is a quote by Piotr that I found brilliant. He said that they wanted Navratilova to also help Caro with doubles, because even though she knows there is a very small chance of her getting an onlympic medal in doubles or mixed, even if there was only 1% of possibility, Woz wanted to do everything she could to take it.

That's the mentality. No wonder she is number 1, has been winning so much and doing the most out of her talent.

gaviotabr
Apr 25th, 2011, 12:02 PM
This.

I don't even know how to comment on some of the stuff. Like this:

The coach thinks they needn't work as hard. :eek: What on Earth does she mean by that?
She is challenging them, and they take it personally? Um, what? :scratch::unsure:
Something tells me it's all the other way around.
Obviously, she has a difficulty maintaing the proper distance with a coach. First she lets them too close - like she did with Marija - didn't she spend litterally every minute with her? - and then it hurts when they criticize and she doesn't like it, or she can't tell them that maybe she disagrees with the dirction they are taking her in. Still, I am confused as to in what way can coaches possibly not work as hard?

She has no idea how to handle a relationship with a coach. But then again, she has no idea of what a coach is all about. She can't seem to be able to be mature enough to talk with a coach about what should be done and what not and reach a consensus. She just fires them.


What? :tape::help:
The coach you need for tennis, this you can find in a psychologist or a boyfriend.
She is so clueless it hurts.
It really pains me to think how much talent is wasted because of stubbornness and having only her immature self or a tennis ignorant team to make decisions for her.
The greatest problem now is that she is going to make finding a coach an issue of the same magnitude as the ball toss. And the way her mind works until that is resolved she ain't moving forward.

Again, just hoping this is mostly rehashed stuff put together, or else, we're screwed.

Exactly. Someone to relax her shouldn't be the coach, and she should realize that. You can try to get someone to relax you, friends, family, boyfriend. You can get someone to work on your mental game and on ways to control your emotions and your tennis thought process, like a psychologist. But a coach is not someone who has to do what she says. She is completely confused about how a coach should be like and what's the role. She asks things that shouldn't be work of a coach. Then no wonder nobody fits the bill and she can't stablish a real coach-player relationship. Now I wonder how did Scott Byrns manage to spend 3 years coaching Ana. :scratch:

And yeah.. she is making it such a bigger issue than it should be.. and her refusal to face it right on just makes things harder for herself. It puts her in a spot she is not even giving herself a chance to be a better player.

It's really sad to see so much talent going to waste due to such a confused brain and no support system. People around her are even more clueless. Being on the outside should make it easier for them to see the mistakes and the confusion, and they only seem to give Ana incentives to burry herself even deeper in this mess.

JAS_
Apr 25th, 2011, 12:05 PM
What I can't believe is that there is nobody around her, who she can't fire, that doesn't see this and get her to understand her mistake. I mean.. I'm sure if she had a big management company they wouldn't be all flowers to her. There would be pep talks. I even sometimes wonder why APDP wants Ana to keep insisting in the mistake.. wouldn't adidas want Ana to have more success to showcase their products more often and in bigger arenas?

She has her parents, but they probably just want her to be happy, and say things like 'relax, chill out'. On the other hand, Piotr, the stereotypical tennis dad, wants his daughter to be happy through achieving success, not by avoiding the stress. Facing the difficulties and overcoming them, and not avoiding them.
What can I say? Obviously that is the right strategy.
Unfortunately Ana is too soft, she can't take the heat. It's too stressful for her. She needs someone to relax her. And obviously that should be a coach. :rolleyes:

On another note, talking about APDP, I don't see why they would care? For them it's important that one of their players is making the splash. Which one has no importance for them. So currently Woz is on a roll, and if I were in charge of their coaches, I would advise them to take the most out of that situation, because at this point it's more likely that Woz will reach her GS title, than Ana. As they say, never change the winning team.
So, maybe once Woz is stopped and interrupted, I would consider pushing Ana. It seems simple.

She needs to understand, first and foremost, that her interests and APDP's, while linked, are still NOT the same.

gaviotabr
Apr 25th, 2011, 12:11 PM
She has her parents, but they probably just want her to be happy, and say things like 'relax, chill out'. On the other hand, Piotr, the stereotypical tennis dad, wants his daughter to be happy through achieving success, not by avoiding the stress. Facing the difficulties and overcoming them, and not avoiding them.
What can I say? Obviously that is the right strategy.
Unfortunately Ana is too soft, she can't take the heat. It's too stressful for her. She needs someone to relax her. And obviously that should be a coach. :rolleyes:

On another note, talking about APDP, I don't see why they would care? For them it's important that one of their players is making the splash. Which one has no importance for them. So currently Woz is on a roll, and if I were in charge of their coaches, I would advise them to take the most out of that situation, because at this point it's more likely that Woz will reach her GS title, than Ana. As they say, never change the winning team.
So, maybe once Woz is stopped and interrupted, I would consider pushing Ana. It seems simple.

She needs to understand, first and foremost, that her interests and APDP's, while linked, are still NOT the same.

Yeah, you are right.. It's all so dumb and frustrating though.. it's there for anyone to see and Ana is blind to it. I know her parents are all about her being happy, but is she really happy with all this? I don't think so.. The fact that there is nobody around her to make her see her mistakes and make her see she has to face things straight on and that change has to come from herself as well.. it really baffles me. But then again, people probably see that everyone who tries to open her eyes get fired, so they refrain from doing it. :shrug:

JAS_
Apr 25th, 2011, 05:14 PM
I should probably put this in the general discussion thread, but since we have discussed articles on other players but in relation to Ana I will put it here. It's an article about Novak, and the interesting part is where he says how there are no secrets to his success...

It's this one

"Ne postoji nikakva tajna, teorija, sve se poklopilo. Kockice su se složile. Sazreo sam kao igrač i kao osoba. Već pet godina se takmičim nan ATP turu. Prošao sam periode i kada sam osvojio grend slem i kada sam ispadao u prvim kolima. Jednostavno, ranije nisam dovoljno verovao u sebe, sada imam stabilnost i oko sebe ljude koji me podražvaju i veruju u mene. Proživljavam najbolje trenutke u svojoj karijeri i želim da održim taj nivo. Poslednjij pet, šest meseci se osećam stabilnije na terenu i van njega, što se pokazuje kroz rezultate".

Basically he says this:

"There is no secret, theory, it just all clicked. All the pieces fell into place. I matured as a player and as a person. I've been competing on the ATP tour for 5 years. I went through periods when I won a GS and when I was losing 1 rounds. Simply put, before I didn't use to believe in myself enough, now I have stability and people around me who support me and believe in me. I am living the best moments of my career and I want to keep that level. Last 5, 6 months I have felt most stable on and off court and it reflects in the results."

Interesting, no secret, no mistery. You work work and work and hope that one day, all things will fall into place, but you put all the work necessary, and some day, it just may happen.
And by work, I mean practice, playing, bouncing back from the most horrible losses (to Rafa, to Fed...) that have seriously damaged his confidence, and addressing the issue that hampered him for a long time, his allergy and fitness by hiring a nutritionist and dropping bread, dough and pasta from his meals.

http://www.mondo.rs/s204284/Sport/Tenis/Djokovic-_Nema_teorija_ne_jedem_hleb.html

gaviotabr
Apr 25th, 2011, 05:33 PM
I should probably put this in the general discussion thread, but since we have discussed articles on other players but in relation to Ana I will put it here. It's an article about Novak, and the interesting part is where he says how there are no secrets to his success...

It's this one

"Ne postoji nikakva tajna, teorija, sve se poklopilo. Kockice su se složile. Sazreo sam kao igrač i kao osoba. Već pet godina se takmičim nan ATP turu. Prošao sam periode i kada sam osvojio grend slem i kada sam ispadao u prvim kolima. Jednostavno, ranije nisam dovoljno verovao u sebe, sada imam stabilnost i oko sebe ljude koji me podražvaju i veruju u mene. Proživljavam najbolje trenutke u svojoj karijeri i želim da održim taj nivo. Poslednjij pet, šest meseci se osećam stabilnije na terenu i van njega, što se pokazuje kroz rezultate".

Basically he says this:

"There is no secret, theory, it just all clicked. All the pieces fell into place. I matured as a player and as a person. I've been competing on the ATP tour for 5 years. I went through periods when I won a GS and when I was losing 1 rounds. Simply put, before I didn't use to believe in myself enough, now I have stability and people around me who support me and believe in me. I am living the best moments of my career and I want to keep that level. Last 5, 6 months I have felt most stable on and off court and it reflects in the results."

Interesting, no secret, no mistery. You work work and work and hope that one day, all things will fall into place, but you put all the work necessary, and some day, it just may happen.
And by work, I mean practice, playing, bouncing back from the most horrible losses (to Rafa, to Fed...) that have seriously damaged his confidence, and addressing the issue that hampered him for a long time, his allergy and fitness by hiring a nutritionist and dropping bread, dough and pasta from his meals.

http://www.mondo.rs/s204284/Sport/Tenis/Djokovic-_Nema_teorija_ne_jedem_hleb.html

Interesting JAS. What gets my atention the most is how much he remarks the word stability. That is so important. Ana has no stability and puts herself in a working set up that can never give her that.

I've always felt like that was something she lacked and lacks.. and that makes a huge difference in results. I think Novak had some unstable things around him before, and he took care of it. He knows how stability is important, and not only to give you a good team, but to allow oyu to only focus on playing tennis.

And then of course... thing have only fallen into place, as he says, because he got stability and because he took care of what was holding him back. He gave himself the chance of going into such a great position by hiring people to help him, by bonding with the people around him, by doing everything he could to improve. There is no secret really, it's there for everyone to see. The secret and the surprising thing is how someone like Ana isn't willing to do what it takes.. I mean, she has never even attempted to hire a physio, even though she has had tons of little injuries in the last few years. She isn't even giving herself the chance of getting into a good spot in her tennis.

Cp6uja
Apr 27th, 2011, 01:29 AM
Vera Zvonareva just split with hers... coach... Lets hope this time fancy guy from Team-Bepa will not finish in Team-Ana like in Antonio Van Grichen case :scared:

I'm not happy with Ana current coaching status, but nobody is still better than wrong IMO :shrug:

JAS_
Apr 27th, 2011, 02:29 PM
Vera Zvonareva just split with hers... coach... Lets hope this time fancy guy from Team-Bepa will not finish in Team-Ana like in Antonio Van Grichen case :scared:

I'm not happy with Ana current coaching status, but nobody is still better than wrong IMO :shrug:

Vera fired her coach again? Ana started a trend. Ana the trendsetter :hearts:
Seriously, though, why do you think he would be wrong for Ana? Other than being distracting ;):lol:

InsideOut.
Apr 27th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Vera fired her coach again? Ana started a trend. Ana the trendsetter :hearts:
Seriously, though, why do you think he would be wrong for Ana? Other than being distracting ;):lol:

Better him than Gulbis :p

JAS_
Apr 27th, 2011, 04:14 PM
Better him than Gulbis :p

You mean he is less distracting? :p

JAS_
Apr 27th, 2011, 11:37 PM
Found an interesting article on Monica Seles, Ana's inspiration to take up tennis. She says she is following Ana, JJ and Novak. Have no idea how old this interview is, but it's posted recently on B92.


http://www.b92.net/zivot/licni_prostor.php?yyyy=2011&mm=04&dd=23&nav_id=507708

„Pomno pratim njihove igre, često i iz publike. Svaki uspeh Jelene, Ane i Novaka me mnogo raduje. Igraju fenomenalno, lepo su vaspitani i pametni. Ponosna sam na njih i na svu talentovanu decu u Srbiji. Od srca želim da krenu našim stopama. Samo bih mlađim kolegama poručila jednu stvar, pošto često čujem kako kad izgube kažu nema veze, još smo mladi, ima vremena... Nema vremena. Ja sam pre svoje dvadesete već imala osvojenih osam gren-slemova. Šampionski duh mora da se neguje na poseban način. I neka imaju na umu da se ne može sve u životu imati u isto vreme. “.

Translation:

I am following regularly their games, often from the stands. Every success of Jelena, Ana and Novak makes me very happy. They play phenomenally, they are very polite and inteligent. I am proud of them and all the talented kids in Serbia. And from my heart I want them to follow in our steps.
I would only like to tell them one thing, since I often hear after their losses that they say it's ok, we're still young, there is time... There is no time. Before I was 20 I had already won 8 GS titles. The champion spirit has to be nourished in a special way. And they should also know that one can't have everything in life at the same time"

:worship:

Beautiful.
Exactly, there is no time for complacency, because one never knows what lies ahead...
The wisdom of a champion.

jonnyroyale_13
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:20 AM
very nice!:) I always wondered if Ana and Monica ever met or talked before. Anyone know? Probably at least got a call after winning RG.

gaviotabr
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:27 AM
Found an interesting article on Monica Seles, Ana's inspiration to take up tennis. She says she is following Ana, JJ and Novak. Have no idea how old this interview is, but it's posted recently on B92.


http://www.b92.net/zivot/licni_prostor.php?yyyy=2011&mm=04&dd=23&nav_id=507708

„Pomno pratim njihove igre, često i iz publike. Svaki uspeh Jelene, Ane i Novaka me mnogo raduje. Igraju fenomenalno, lepo su vaspitani i pametni. Ponosna sam na njih i na svu talentovanu decu u Srbiji. Od srca želim da krenu našim stopama. Samo bih mlađim kolegama poručila jednu stvar, pošto često čujem kako kad izgube kažu nema veze, još smo mladi, ima vremena... Nema vremena. Ja sam pre svoje dvadesete već imala osvojenih osam gren-slemova. Šampionski duh mora da se neguje na poseban način. I neka imaju na umu da se ne može sve u životu imati u isto vreme. “.

Translation:

I am following regularly their games, often from the stands. Every success of Jelena, Ana and Novak makes me very happy. They play phenomenally, they are very polite and inteligent. I am proud of them and all the talented kids in Serbia. And from my heart I want them to follow in our steps.
I would only like to tell them one thing, since I often hear after their losses that they say it's ok, we're still young, there is time... There is no time. Before I was 20 I had already won 8 GS titles. The champion spirit has to be nourished in a special way. And they should also know that one can't have everything in life at the same time"

:worship:

Beautiful.
Exactly, there is no time for complacency, because one never knows what lies ahead...
The wisdom of a champion.

Exactly. Great qute from Monica. She definitely knows what she is talking about.. I wish Ana could listen..

gaviotabr
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:30 AM
very nice!:) I always wondered if Ana and Monica ever met or talked before. Anyone know? Probably at least got a call after winning RG.

I think Ana has said a couple of times that she met Monica at a US Open and has talked to her a few times since then. I don't think they have much contact, but they have surely talked and met before.

gaviotabr
Apr 28th, 2011, 11:16 AM
Ana's web just posted scans of her interview for Cosmopolitan Serbia. Is there anything of notice? Is that Ana answering the Quiz in the second scan? :lol:

http://www.anaivanovic.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/news/Cosmo1.jpg

http://www.anaivanovic.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/news/Cosmo2.jpg

jelenacg
Apr 28th, 2011, 12:40 PM
Ana's web just posted scans of her interview for Cosmopolitan Serbia. Is there anything of notice? Is that Ana answering the Quiz in the second scan? :lol:


Yes :lol:
That`s actually the only interesting part ,everything else :yawn:
Someone will probably transalte it all but some random : once she missed a flight sitting next to entrance :facepalm::lol: ,she is afraid of flying,she never bought a car ,in relationship she is the one who analizes everything too much (what a surprise :lol:)

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 12:45 PM
Ana's web just posted scans of her interview for Cosmopolitan Serbia. Is there anything of notice? Is that Ana answering the Quiz in the second scan? :lol:

http://www.anaivanovic.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/news/Cosmo1.jpg

http://www.anaivanovic.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/news/Cosmo2.jpg

Yes, there are some interesting answers, like:

Sometimes she makes mistakes because of : stubbornness
And the thing she would like to have known 5 years ago is that it's ok not to be perfect.

Hmmm, someone is starting to realize the error of their ways. Please let it mean she has been working on her psychology.

Also funny - if she were not a tennis player, she would have been a psychologist.
Um, I don't know how to square that with her reluctance to work with them. :scratch:

She fears most for the health of her close family. Hmmm, maybe someone in her family has been sick and that scared her, because usually until that happens people are mostly carefree.

The most embarrassing thing that happened to her: she missed a plane while sitting at the gate :lol:
Hahaha this could have happened to me easily.

The part of her body she likes the most: her butt and her hair. (Butt? OK)

In a relationship she's the one who overanalyzes things. Surpriiiiise. ;)

Her motto: enjoy every moment. :cool:

The best love advice: play hard to get.

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 12:54 PM
Maybe one interesting thing in the text for you Izzy would be her answer to the question how much she is working daily. She says, douring tournaments it's two trainings a day that total 60-90 minutes on days when she has no matches; otherwise it's 30 minutes.
During preparations it's two sessions of 90 minutes + conditioning.
And of course she adds to all that the work of recovery - massages, ice bath etc. Hm, is that work?
I mean, I know it is for the masseur :p

Cajka
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:26 PM
"Volim produhovljene muškarce sa kojima mogu da vodim intelektualne razgovore." :haha::haha::haha::haha:

Someone should translate this, I would like to, but I can't translate the adjective "produhovljen".

When was the last time Monica visited Serbia? Anybody knows? I don't remember her coming to Serbia after the war. :[

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:38 PM
She likes enlightened, sophisticated men so she can have intellectual conversations with them :lol:

Also, the thing she finds most attractive in a man: sense of humor.

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:38 PM
I don't know about Monica, but darn she was something. A living legend.

gloria7
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:40 PM
Quiz is the best - about men:

She thinks it's sexy when guy has a great sense of humor.
She is famous and that's why she can't kiss her man anytime and anywhere and she wish she could do that.
If she could be someone else for one day, she would love to be Angelina Joline(because of Brad Pitt).
She will know that "he is the right man for her" if they support each other,understand and trust each other.
A famous guy that she has a soft spot for is Ryan Reynolds.
Her man must be intelligent,compassionate,with nice maners and to be well dressed(classical style).
The best "love" advise she received is to play with men a "hard to get".

currie84
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:42 PM
[QUOTE=JAS_;19464414]The part of her body she likes the most: her butt and her hair. (Butt? OK)

QUOTE]

why not?It was great until she decided to look like Hantuchova.

gaviotabr
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:42 PM
Thanks JAS, Gloria and Jelena for the tidbits on the article!

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:43 PM
Quiz is the best - about men:


She is famous and that's why she can't kiss her man anytime and anywhere and she wish she could do that.


But she also didn't circle the option: I wish I never became famous, so...she's dealing with it :)

Cajka
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:51 PM
It's a long interview. She was talking about her regular diet, training sessions, about men, fashion... And, yeah, she said that she doesn't go out often and that she never stays late in night clubs. And she said she's never been drunk. :)

gaviotabr
Apr 28th, 2011, 01:56 PM
Yes :lol:
That`s actually the only interesting part ,everything else :yawn:
Someone will probably transalte it all but some random : once she missed a flight sitting next to entrance :facepalm::lol: ,she is afraid of flying,she never both a car ,in relationship she is the one who analizes everything too much (what a surprise :lol:)

Afraid of flying? That I did not know.. one would think she would be ok with it.. flies so much!

Yes, there are some interesting answers, like:

Sometimes she makes mistakes because of : stubbornness
And the thing she would like to have known 5 years ago is that it's ok not to be perfect.

Hmmm, someone is starting to realize the error of their ways. Please let it mean she has been working on her psychology.

Also funny - if she were not a tennis player, she would have been a psychologist.
Um, I don't know how to square that with her reluctance to work with them. :scratch:

She fears most for the health of her close family. Hmmm, maybe someone in her family has been sick and that scared her, because usually until that happens people are mostly carefree.

The most embarrassing thing that happened to her: she missed a plane while sitting at the gate :lol:
Hahaha this could have happened to me easily.

The part of her body she likes the most: her butt and her hair. (Butt? OK)

In a relationship she's the one who overanalyzes things. Surpriiiiise. ;)

Her motto: enjoy every moment. :cool:

The best love advice: play hard to get.

Ana has been saying that she makes mistakes due to sttuborness and that she now knows she doesn't need to be perfect for quite some time. Really doesn't mean anything.. She knows she is sttuborn, but does nothing to work on it.

She has also said a number of times that she would've liked to be a psychologist if not a tennis player. It seems contraditory at first, since she completely refuses the idea of working with one, like it was something bad, but it actually makes sense. She thinks she has no problems with her mental game whatsoever.. the problem isn't with her, it's with others. She puts herself so far from the mental issues that she would like to be a psychologist to help others. I remember once, while being asked about working with a sports psychologist, she said she had a lot of interest in the subject, so she read a lot about it, that she knew enough and thus didn't need any help. I remember wanting to bang my head against a wall after that. It's a really deturped view of the whole situation. And something that holds her back enormously.

Maybe one interesting thing in the text for you Izzy would be her answer to the question how much she is working daily. She says, douring tournaments it's two trainings a day that total 60-90 minutes on days when she has no matches; otherwise it's 30 minutes.
During preparations it's two sessions of 90 minutes + conditioning.
And of course she adds to all that the work of recovery - massages, ice bath etc. Hm, is that work?
I mean, I know it is for the masseur :p

30 minutes is barely enough to warm up. :banghead:

She really doesn't work nearly enough for where her game is. Then we ask why her toss is so awful and her BH doesn't improve.. how could it if her training sessions barely last enough to warm up?

Quiz is the best - about men:

She thinks it's sexy when guy has a great sense of humor.
She is famous and that's why she can't kiss her man anytime and anywhere and she wish she could do that.
If she could be someone else for one day, she would love to be Angelina Joline(because of Brad Pitt).
She will know that "he is the right man for her" if they support each other,understand and trust each other.
A famous guy that she has a soft spot for is Ryan Reynolds.
Her man must be intelligent,compassionate,with nice maners and to be well dressed(classical style).
The best "love" advise she received is to play with men a "hard to get".

The thing about not being able to kiss anytime.. :lol: She can.. :shrug: She might just get photographed. And I'm not sure she would now, because her star has diminished... I wonder if she says that because she ended up getting traumatized with seeing pictures of her kissing Verdasco back in 2008. :spit:

jelenacg
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:10 PM
Afraid of flying? That I did not know.. one would think she would be ok with it.. flies so much!


It`s probably not some big fear ,just a regular one :lol:
After all you are in the air and if something goes wrong...

About rest of the interview ,don`t worry too much :shrug:,It`s tipical copy paste interview imo


The thing about not being able to kiss anytime.. :lol: She can.. :shrug: She might just get photographed. And I'm not sure she would now, because her star has diminished... I wonder if she says that because she ended up getting traumatized with seeing pictures of her kissing Verdasco back in 2008. :spit:
Yeah i think that`s the problem
Who would have thought but Ana likes PDA :p:lol:

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:12 PM
She has also said a number of times that she would've liked to be a psychologist if not a tennis player. It seems contraditory at first, since she completely refuses the idea of working with one, like it was something bad, but it actually makes sense. She thinks she has no problems with her mental game whatsoever.. the problem isn't with her, it's with others. She puts herself so far from the mental issues that she would like to be a psychologist to help others. I remember once, while being asked about working with a sports psychologist, she said she had a lot of interest in the subject, so she read a lot about it, that she knew enough and thus didn't need any help. I remember wanting to bang my head against a wall after that. It's a really deturped view of the whole situation. And something that holds her back enormously.

Hahaha it never occured to me that way. Makes sense, only she should know that psychologist have to go to psychologists too if they want to cure others :)


30 minutes is barely enough to warm up. :banghead:

She really doesn't work nearly enough for where her game is. Then we ask why her toss is so awful and her BH doesn't improve.. how could it if her training sessions barely last enough to warm up?


That's what I thought too, but what do I know? I am not a professional sportsman. But in any activity, this wouldn't be enough of work to keep the world's top level, so it makes sense to me. She may even be overachieving, all things considered.
Sometimes people say how do you know that she isn't trying enough? Well, I don't really, but I can make an educated judgement on what she says or what others say. If Woz for instance trains 3 hours before a match, then yeah, 30 minutes seems insufficitent. Now, I don't know if they are lying, I can only go by statements, hearsay and results.
Also interesting is: how come players like Woz who train so hard injure themselves less? Is there a connection? Maybe training only 30 minutes before a match is conducive to injuries? I wouldn't know. Maybe a fitness coach or a physio would? :(

Cajka
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:14 PM
But, it's only during the tournaments and when she has a match. If she has a match, all she needs is to warm up, or no?! :shrug: It wouldn't be smart to get exhausted before the match.

On the other hand, we have Nadal who trains on grass when it rains. :hysteric: Maybe it's hyped by media. :confused:

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:19 PM
But, it's only during the tournaments and when she has a match. If she has a match, all she needs is to warm up, or no?! :shrug: It wouldn't be smart to get exhausted before the match.

On the other hand, we have Nadal who trains on grass when it rains. :hysteric: Maybe it's hyped by media. :confused:

I've heard that Nadal has an one hour preparation. Actually my guess is that for players who have a game which can have a large number of errors it would be beneficial to hit a bit before the match so as to find their range as opposed to actually have to go to a slow start, which can mean a lost set with better players. But, again, what do I know? Obviously one doesn't want to be too tired either, but still 30 min seems a little too little. Also, what if her match is in the evening? Is it even smart not to train that day at all, just to have a 30 min warm up?
The fact is, at the top, the tiniest things can make a difference between a winner and a loser. Compare it with the swimmers who even shave to give themselves an advantage, not to mention special suits. In that sport it's a milisecond, in tennis probably things like these make a difference.

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:23 PM
Also, on days when she has no matches, it's 60-90 minutes a day. One hour a day? :unsure:
I am starting to understand why Ana keeps repeating how she doesn't need anyone to tell her she has to work hard. Probably her coaches were telling her that as a way to avoid telling her she doesn't work hard enough. :unsure:

gaviotabr
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:30 PM
It`s probably not some big fear ,just a regular one :lol:
After all you are in the air and if something goes wrong...

About rest of the interview ,don`t worry too much :shrug:,It`s tipical copy paste interview imo


Yeah i think that`s the problem
Who would have thought but Ana likes PDA :p:lol:

:lol:

And I think it's not so much about being a copy paste interview, but about Ana saying the same things. :shrug:

Hahaha it never occured to me that way. Makes sense, only she should know that psychologist have to go to psychologists too if they want to cure others :)

Yeah.. but that's the thing... it's like saying she read about it, so she knows enought and needs no help. It's all a deturped view of things. She talks so muchabout being intellectual.. liking intellectual, educated people.. but that is a very ignorant view. :shrug:

That's what I thought too, but what do I know? I am not a professional sptsman. But in any activity, this wouldn't be enough of work to keep the world's top level, so it makes sense to me. She may even be overachieving, all things considered.
Sometimes people say how do you know that she isn't trying enough? Well, I don't really, but I can make an educated judgement on what she says or what others say. If Woz for instance trains 3 hours before a match, then yeah, 30 minutes seems insufficitent. Now, I don't know if they are lying, I can only go by statements, hearsay and results.
Also interesting is: how come players like Woz who train so hard injure themselves less? Is there a connection? Maybe training only 30 minutes before a match is conducive to injuries? I wouldn't know. Maybe a fitness coach or a physio would? :(

It is actually.. Too little work leads to lack of rhythm for your body, so when it's put under any kind of stress, with a bigger level of nerves (like in matches), it is most likely to break down. See how most of Ana's injuries are muscular. That exactly where lack of rhythm is felt.

I agree with you. I actually think it's pretty obvious she is not trying enough. First of all, she is not willing to go out of her comfort zone to try anything and everything that could help. Then, we've had accounts on her practice sessions time and again and anyone who has played sports, at least semi professionally (like me), knows that is obviously not enough. So sheis not even giving herself the chance of being the best she can be, she is not putting herself in position to do well on court, because off of it it's all out of place. And her competition s doing a lot more than her. Everything starts with preparation, dedication, approach to tennis. It's not about trying on court, but doing the right things off of it. With the way Ana goes about and approaches tennis, she is definitely overachieving. She is doing a lot for the little she practices and how out of place things are and by how she refuses ot work on what holds her back. The thing is, she is underachieving by miles regarding her talent and potential. And that's how she will be seen at the end of the day. I just saw an article that called her talented disappointment. That's what it is.

gloria7
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:30 PM
I don't know what was more traumatic - the paparazzi who followed them everywhere or Verdasco himself,who introduced Ana to every member of his family. Those group family pictures were too much.

Cajka
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:31 PM
At the moment she has a sparing partner and... Is there anyone left in her team? She works with Darren Cahill, but he's not a permanent coach and she doesn't have fitness trainer. She's really stubborn if she thinks that she can work on her own.

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:47 PM
:lol:

It is actually.. Too little work leads to lack of rhythm for your body, so when it's put under any kind of stress, with a bigger level of nerves (like in matches), it is most likely to break down. See how most of Ana's injuries are muscular. That exactly where lack of rhythm is felt.

I agree with you. I actually think it's pretty obvious she is not trying enough. First of all, she is not willing to go out of her comfort zone to try anything and everything that could help. Then, we've had accounts on her practice sessions time and again and anyone who has played sports, at least semi professionally (like me), knows that is obviously not enough. So sheis not even giving herself the chance of being the best she can be, she is not putting herself in position to do well on court, because off of it it's all out of place. And her competition s doing a lot more than her. Everything starts with preparation, dedication, approach to tennis. It's not about trying on court, but doing the right things off of it. With the way Ana goes about and approaches tennis, she is definitely overachieving. She is doing a lot for the little she practices and how out of place things are and by how she refuses ot work on what holds her back. The thing is, she is underachieving by miles regarding her talent and potential. And that's how she will be seen at the end of the day. I just saw an article that called her talented disappointment. That's what it is.

Funny thing is that there is a parallel thing in psychology. If you want to deal with a stressful situation well, you want to prepare in a setup that is similar. For instance, put yourself in a stressful situation of a similar kind, so that when the real test comes, it's all familiar and you are not as stressed. Even in this area Ana seems to have a different approach: she seems to be asking for a coach who would provide a relaxing atmosphere which would in NO way prepare her for the stressful situation she faces in matches. No wonder she freaks out so often. She may actually benefit from a coach who would provide environment that would make playing matches an ordinary, even (imagine that, Ana!) pleasurable experience.
I feel she may be making the same mistake with the physical preparations. That's a little bit a Serbian thing - I know because I used to read comments after Novak's matches, and people would talk all the time about the need 'to save' the energy for important matches. There is this belief that if you want to be ready, you should try to somehow preserve energy for future by exerting as little effore as possible. Which is fine for a day or two, but as a long term strategy seems attrocious, and to me changing that may be the key to his newfound stamina.

jelenacg
Apr 28th, 2011, 02:50 PM
This is cosmopolitan for God`s sake and all these questions and answers are the usual copy past thing ,nothing new there .She said the same thing regarding practices,food,men hundred times already
Actually my grandmother if she was alive would tell you the same thing to eat more vegetables and fruits and less junk food :rolleyes:

Ana said that during tournamnest she is pracicing twice a day.And maybe i don`t know how all that practicing is supposed to work but i`m pretty sure she is not leaving her hotel twice a day to hit for only 30 mins
She probably needs 30 mins just to warm up correctly

From what i`ve saw during FC her working regime is just fine,her head like always needs work.Although she was very calmed and focused in both her matches minus the injury

gloria7
Apr 28th, 2011, 03:01 PM
Well...she says everything that i,as a fan,want to hear. What she said about team..."you need a strong team you can rely on. In my case that was my family,i often look for their advise and support.I owe them much." Yes,honey, but they are your family, part of yout team. Right now you don't have a team...just a hitting partner...and Cahill, who think that girl with serious ab injury should play longer points.I was whining about Ana not having "B" plan,but now it seems that she developed "B" game and they are forcing her to stick with that until they transform her into new CW. I had impression that Ana played first set against Cibulkova with that "B" game,and second set was Ana's "A" game.
She also said in this interview - "Total commitment is most important. You must be willing to sacrifice many things in your life to achieve yor goal. Self-discipline is very important too.Many players are talented,but they don't want,can't or have not been able to work hard".

Cajka
Apr 28th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Yeah, I think it's all in her head. The panic and stuffs... I used to have some anxiety issues and I think I can recognize the symptoms. :lol: It's very common female disorder. :lol:

Now, seriously, has anyone noticed that her ball toss is OK when she feels comfortable on the court? When she's nervous, she makes double faults, hits those terrible slice backhands that barely touch the net, chase the ball in the air during the toss.... :rolleyes:

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 03:07 PM
Well...she says everything that i,as a fan,want to hear. What she said about team..."you need a strong team you can rely on. In my case that was my family,i often look for their advise and support.I owe them much." Yes,honey, but they are your family, part of yout team. Right now you don't have a team...just a hitting partner...and Cahill, who think that girl with serious ab injury should play longer points.I was whining about Ana not having "B" plan,but now it seems that she developed "B" game and they are forcing her to stick with that until they transform her into new CW. I had impression that Ana played first set against Cibulkova with that "B" game,and second set was Ana's "A" game.
She also said in this interview - "Total commitment is most important. You must be willing to sacrifice many things in your life to achieve yor goal. Self-discipline is very important too.Many players are talented,but they don't want,can't or have not been able to work hard".

Yeah, I noticed that thing too, and thought to myself is this Ana talking?
Well, I guess she sacrificed many things to be where she is now, but the thing is, to be on the very top she wouldn't have to sacrifice that much more, really, just a little more time. Anyway, like you said, I had a feeling she is saying things we (fans) want to hear.

JAS_
Apr 28th, 2011, 03:08 PM
Yeah, I think it's all in her head. The panic and stuffs... I used to have some anxiety issues and I think I can recognize the symptoms. :lol: It's very common female disorder. :lol:

Now, seriously, has anyone noticed that her ball toss is OK when she feels comfortable on the court? When she's nervous, she makes double faults, hits those terrible slice backhands that barely touch the net, chase the ball in the air during the toss.... :rolleyes:

Yes, it's been noticed and discussed thoroughly :lol:;)

jelenacg
Apr 28th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Now, seriously, has anyone noticed that her ball toss is OK when she feels comfortable on the court?

First time i hear this :spit:

Most Ana`s fans wrote 100 pages essays regaring her ball toss issues :o

Cajka
Apr 28th, 2011, 03:12 PM
I'm obviously (Ana's favourite word :happy::happy:) new here, so I missed those discussions. :p

gaviotabr
May 2nd, 2011, 10:36 AM
Ana has a column is today's Marca newspaper. I don't know if this was supposed to be something daily for the whole tournament or a one off.. but I guess it's pointless now.. It's not like she says anything interesting... just that I can totally understand how much of a headcase idiot she is if reading Paulo Coelho is what thaught her about mental preparation. She is lucky she isn't saying these things here.. Paulo Coelho is not very well seen here. People would look at her as some imature teenager who likes dumb books. Oh wait..

http://oi53.tinypic.com/1625ru8.jpg

soul
May 2nd, 2011, 01:52 PM
She just says the same tings without any solutions;many conflict;white and black.No stable

Cajka
May 2nd, 2011, 02:36 PM
OK, now we've learned there are hydromassage tubs in GS locker rooms.:D Seriously, I didn't know that. But I can't tell how many times I read that she likes Gaga and those stupid books (I'm sorry if someone likes it). They always ask her the same things. :rolleyes:

doni1212
May 2nd, 2011, 04:56 PM
Ana has a column is today's Marca newspaper. I don't know if this was supposed to be something daily for the whole tournament or a one off.. but I guess it's pointless now.. It's not like she says anything interesting... just that I can totally understand how much of a headcase idiot she is if reading Paulo Coelho is what thaught her about mental preparation. She is lucky she isn't saying these things here.. Paulo Coelho is not very well seen here. People would look at her as some imature teenager who likes dumb books. Oh wait..



:lol: Really? I guess he's from Brazil but I never imagined that. In the U.S., his books are everywhere and "The Alchemist" is always on summer reading lists for schools.

And did Ana write that herself? Or was it translated? If so, her spanish has improved a lot!

azdaja
May 2nd, 2011, 05:28 PM
i don't care what anyone says or how average his other books are, but i liked "o alquimista". it was the first book i read in portuguese (since i realised it's written in a rather simple language) and it is a nice story a storyteller would tell you. it's not something that's supposed to teach you some deep stuff.

it's off-topic, but i have to say that i'm fairly clueless about portuguese language literature. i mean, i had lessons on hispanic literature when i was at the uni, so i know and really like some of the spanish language books from latin america. btw, one of the argentinian goats, ernesto sábato, died a couple of days ago, i loved his "el túnel". but i am having major problems with the portuguese language books. i guess josé saramago is kinda famous for winning the nobel prize and so is of course paulo coelho, but most other names are not so famous in the rest of the world. i think i should sneak in the lessons with my friend who is studying portuguese at the uni :oh:

gaviotabr
May 2nd, 2011, 05:45 PM
:lol: Really? I guess he's from Brazil but I never imagined that. In the U.S., his books are everywhere and "The Alchemist" is always on summer reading lists for schools.

And did Ana write that herself? Or was it translated? If so, her spanish has improved a lot!

I would sayit was translated.. :shrug:

About Paulo Coelho.. his books are seen as simplistic and not quality literature. It's supposed to be nothing more than some fun reading. Yet Ana is taking it as something to teach her about mental preparation. Gotta laugh.. it's not the kind of book to teach her anything whatsoever. It's like watching an Adam Sandler romantic comedy in the cinema and taking inspirational lessons out of it. So no wonder her mental game is so bad.

gaviotabr
May 2nd, 2011, 05:51 PM
i don't care what anyone says or how average his other books are, but i liked "o alquimista". it was the first book i read in portuguese (since i realised it's written in a rather simple language) and it is a nice story a storyteller would tell you. it's not something that's supposed to teach you some deep stuff.

it's off-topic, but i have to say that i'm fairly clueless about portuguese language literature. i mean, i had lessons on hispanic literature when i was at the uni, so i know and really like some of the spanish language books from latin america. btw, one of the argentinian goats, ernesto sábato, died a couple of days ago, i loved his "el túnel". but i am having major problems with the portuguese language books. i guess josé saramago is kinda famous for winning the nobel prize and so is of course paulo coelho, but most other names are not so famous in the rest of the world. i think i should sneak in the lessons with my friend who is studying portuguese at the uni :oh:

I'm not saying Paulo Coelho doesn't write fun things to read. His books are such a big success for a reason. But it's something simple and superfecial.. nothing to teach Ana ho to mentally prepare for matches. And that's how she is threating it. That's the problem.

As for quality literature in portuguese.. there are tons of great books. I'm a fan of Machado de Assis, but his books aren't easy. My personal favorite is Quincas Borba. Other nice authors are Erico Veríssimo, Jorge Amado, Carlos Drummond de Andrade, Cecília Meirelles... so on.

azdaja
May 2nd, 2011, 06:23 PM
I'm not saying Paulo Coelho doesn't write fun things to read. His books are such a big success for a reason. But it's something simple and superfecial.. nothing to teach Ana ho to mentally prepare for matches. And that's how she is threating it. That's the problem.

As for quality literature in portuguese.. there are tons of great books. I'm a fan of Machado de Assis, but his books aren't easy. My personal favorite is Quincas Borba. Other nice authors are Erico Veríssimo, Jorge Amado, Carlos Drummond de Andrade, Cecília Meirelles... so on.
thanks for suggestions :yeah: i will check them out (and read stuff about history of portuguese language literature anyway). i'm concentrating on non-fiction in portuguese for now since it tends to be easier to understand.

as for coelho, we agree then that his books are just fun and nothing deep. but then, i do think that ana is somewhat of a big child and children learn deep stuff even from fairy tales :lol: of course it makes her look silly, but i'm not too concerned about what she makes of it.

btw, looking at posts we make in this forum it puzzles me that people believe we never criticise ana and think she's perfect :o we do criticise her, it's just that we don't do it in the way that would please haters' hearts.

Cajka
May 2nd, 2011, 06:50 PM
It would be stupid of me to comment on Coelho's books, 'cause I studied literature. :devil: But I can't see how reading books can be a mental preparation for a match. There's nothing you can learn from a book, no matter if it's good or bad. So, she can read Coelho, Faulkner, Joyce, J. K. Rowling, Agatha Christie or Homer's epic poems it won't make any difference. She needs a good psychologist and a good coach. She's supposed to watch some big finals from past to learn something about mental toughness. It could be good to watch even some other individual sports. Literature is an art and the best books were mostly written by the worst headcases. :lol: She needs adrenaline, bravery and focus.

gaviotabr
May 2nd, 2011, 06:54 PM
thanks for suggestions :yeah: i will check them out (and read stuff about history of portuguese language literature anyway). i'm concentrating on non-fiction in portuguese for now since it tends to be easier to understand.

as for coelho, we agree then that his books are just fun and nothing deep. but then, i do think that ana is somewhat of a big child and children learn deep stuff even from fairy tales :lol: of course it makes her look silly, but i'm not too concerned about what she makes of it.

btw, looking at posts we make in this forum it puzzles me that people believe we never criticise ana and think she's perfect :o we do criticise her, it's just that we don't do it in the way that would please haters' hearts.

They really say that? Oh my... no comments.

As for Ana.. my point is that if she is taking mental preparation lessons from a Paulo Coelho book, no wonder her mental game is such a mess and she has been such a choker. That's not something to take lessons from.. no matter if you are a kid or an adult or whatever. she won't solve her issues if all the help she is willing to get is from Paulo Coelho books.

gaviotabr
May 2nd, 2011, 06:55 PM
It would be stupid of me to comment on Coelho's books, 'cause I studied literature. :devil: But I can't see how reading books can be a mental preparation for a match. There's nothing you can learn from a book, no matter if it's good or bad. So, she can read Coelho, Faulkner, Joyce, J. K. Rowling, Agatha Christie or Homer's epic poems it won't make any difference. She needs a good psychologist and a good coach. She's supposed to watch some big finals from past to learn something about mental toughness. It could be good to watch even some other individual sports. Literature is an art and the best books were mostly written by the worst headcases. :lol: She needs adrenaline, bravery and focus.

Agreed!

azdaja
May 2nd, 2011, 07:20 PM
They really say that? Oh my... no comments.
it's obvious you don't go to gm much :lol: remember, we are oversensitive people from "lala land" who don't understand that ana deserves criticism.

As for Ana.. my point is that if she is taking mental preparation lessons from a Paulo Coelho book, no wonder her mental game is such a mess and she has been such a choker. That's not something to take lessons from.. no matter if you are a kid or an adult or whatever. she won't solve her issues if all the help she is willing to get is from Paulo Coelho books.

It would be stupid of me to comment on Coelho's books, 'cause I studied literature. :devil: But I can't see how reading books can be a mental preparation for a match. There's nothing you can learn from a book, no matter if it's good or bad. So, she can read Coelho, Faulkner, Joyce, J. K. Rowling, Agatha Christie or Homer's epic poems it won't make any difference. She needs a good psychologist and a good coach. She's supposed to watch some big finals from past to learn something about mental toughness. It could be good to watch even some other individual sports. Literature is an art and the best books were mostly written by the worst headcases. :lol: She needs adrenaline, bravery and focus.
books can inspire you, though. of course, ana needs more than just inspiration, but i wouldn't make too much of what she says about "lessons". and even if she realises she needs a psychologist i'm sure she won't write it in a column.

gaviotabr
May 2nd, 2011, 07:27 PM
it's obvious you don't go to gm much :lol: remember, we are oversensitive people from "lala land" who don't understand that ana deserves criticism.


I don't have stomach for GM. :lol: I would think we are a bunch of the most critical fans there is. :shrug:


books can inspire you, though. of course, ana needs more than just inspiration, but i wouldn't make too much of what she says about "lessons". and even if she realises she needs a psychologist i'm sure she won't write it in a column.

But it's obvious that she thinks that book can help her prepare mentally for a match. This is actually not the first time she says it. And that is a problem. Because it's a deturped view of what mental preparation should be. In anyway it would give her all the wrong inspiration. So really no wonder her mental game is such a mess.

As for needing a psychologist.. I'm sure she wouldn't mention in a column, though it wouldn't be wrong to do so. I'm pretty sure, by all she has said in the past 3 years, that she refuses that possibility completely.

azdaja
May 2nd, 2011, 08:02 PM
I don't have stomach for GM. :lol: I would think we are a bunch of the most critical fans there is. :shrug:
no, because we should criticise ana for her fistpumps, for her fedcup commitment, for cheating with squeaky shoes, for being a bitch if you scratch beneath the surface and all that. and we are also oversensitive because all ana is getting in gm is legitimate criticism, not irrational hate.

some people are so ridiculous :rolls:

But it's obvious that she thinks that book can help her prepare mentally for a match. This is actually not the first time she says it. And that is a problem. Because it's a deturped view of what mental preparation should be. In anyway it would give her all the wrong inspiration. So really no wonder her mental game is such a mess.

As for needing a psychologist.. I'm sure she wouldn't mention in a column, though it wouldn't be wrong to do so. I'm pretty sure, by all she has said in the past 3 years, that she refuses that possibility completely.
i agree that from what ana says taken overall we can conclude that she is quite a bit deluded about some of her problems. i just don't think everything she says should be taken too seriously. she does have certain things she says on the repeat simply because she is an introvert person, not exactly made to be a superstar that she is. at least she doesn't make up "jokes" about cangaroos and stuff like that :lol:

and books, movies, music, just anything can inspire you in the right way, but only if everything else is fine. and with ana it's not the case.

Cajka
May 2nd, 2011, 08:14 PM
no, because we should criticise ana for her fistpumps, for her fedcup commitment, for cheating with squeaky shoes, for being a bitch if you scratch beneath the surface and all that. and we are also oversensitive because all ana is getting in gm is legitimate criticism, not irrational hate.

some people are so ridiculous :rolls:


Now I feel sick. :bolt:

azdaja
May 2nd, 2011, 09:19 PM
Now I feel sick. :bolt:
glavobolja od vina or whatever the song goes like :p

Cp6uja
May 2nd, 2011, 09:48 PM
As potential role model for many teenagers around world I always really like to see when Ana talking about her habit to read books, no matter what I personally thinking about her taste. Speaking about hers favorite stuffs which coming from Brazil, I will be much more happy to see instead Coelho's "romantic" fictions for example movie "City of God" in section favorite films, especially because Ivanovic is UNICEF Ambassador very involved in "School without Violence" program. But like I say already, I will not complain in this case at all, its still better to hear from her any title from "popular literature" (how she spend hers free time), than for example some Nintendo game :shrug:

BTW talking about Ana and literature - for a long time already Ana is for me some kind of Tennis/Female HAMLET :D