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Sam L
Dec 21st, 2006, 10:58 AM
What a slap in the face for Bitchoncé. :haha:

Forrest Whittaker won Best Actor. I can't wait to see the Last King of Scotland too.

Source: http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur30426.cfm

MrSerenaWilliams
Dec 21st, 2006, 01:41 PM
not really. They just wanted to maintain credibility. Helen was MILES better than BEYONCE' even though Dreamgirls was more entertaining.

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 21st, 2006, 02:11 PM
Yey. Go Helen. She's one of my favorite actresses.

Rocketta
Dec 21st, 2006, 04:36 PM
Didn't know Beyonce was talked about winning any awards? :scratch:

Being excited about that is like being excited that Matt Damon won an award over Ben Afleck........... basically, getting excited over the expected outcome against an opponent that really didn't have a chance to win in the first place. :cuckoo:

I wonder why the thread started didn't entitle his thread 'Dreamgirls' Dominate AAFCA awards like the article? :scratch: Oh I know it's because if he did that he may have to face the fact that winning the best movie award means that Beyonce actually does win an award since she was an integral part of the movie? :scratch:

Selah
Dec 21st, 2006, 04:40 PM
why is it a slap in the face if they are acknowledging the better actress?. You are implying that because it is an African-American, they would go for the black person :rolleyes: Keep showing your ass. Don't stop.

mykarma
Dec 21st, 2006, 04:51 PM
What a slap in the face for Bitchoncé. :haha:

Forrest Whittaker won Best Actor. I can't wait to see the Last King of Scotland too.

Source: http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur30426.cfm

Just wondering why you feel the need to call Beyonce a bitch. What has she done to make you sprew such venom towards her? She's not my favorite person nor do I think she's the best vocalist out there but I've not heard of her doing or saying vicious things to or about anyone.

Congrats:clap2: to Forrest Whittaker. It's been a long time coming. I've always liked him and can't wait to see the movie. Here's a link to a great interview/video with Forrest on NPR.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6152988

When you get to the website you have to click on the interview,

timafi
Dec 21st, 2006, 06:06 PM
Beyonce will never be half the actress Mirren:bowdown: is and that's a fact:shrug:
as for Whittaker,bloody damn time he won something:worship:
he's one hell of an actor and should have been recognize ages ago for his acting
I really hope he wins the Oscars:woohoo: :woohoo:

manu32
Dec 21st, 2006, 06:22 PM
Mirren always past year elizabeth 1,this year elizabeth 2......like judi dench every year.....not amazing ..nothing to say about beyonce she is not actress...but this deal with old english actresses is annoying

lizchris
Dec 21st, 2006, 06:26 PM
Beyonce will never be half the actress Mirren:bowdown: is and that's a fact:shrug:
as for Whittaker,bloody damn time he won something:worship:
he's one hell of an actor and should have been recognize ages ago for his acting
I really hope he wins the Oscars:woohoo: :woohoo:


She isn't even half the actress of Wilma Flinstone.

Qrystyna
Dec 21st, 2006, 06:46 PM
Mirren always past year elizabeth 1,this year elizabeth 2......like judi dench every year.....not amazing ..nothing to say about beyonce she is not actress...but this deal with old english actresses is annoying

Hellen Mirren is not just any old english actress! She's a major talent who has performed a variety of roles in just about every genre in her career. Not to mention she isn't afraid of showing a bit of skin when the part calls for it. I also think she is still quite attractive, even more considering she's now into her 60's.

Helen Lawson
Dec 21st, 2006, 06:50 PM
I won that award back in '58 for "I Want To Live!" but then it was called "The Coloreds' Critics Awards." :o
They replaced it with the new name back in the 70s. I never had an award recalled before!

harloo
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:03 PM
Mirren always past year elizabeth 1,this year elizabeth 2......like judi dench every year.....not amazing ..nothing to say about beyonce she is not actress...but this deal with old english actresses is annoying

ROTF!! These same actresses are hailed for their performances each year and it's the same type of role and movie (elizabeth 1, 2, 3). Anyways, the award is not the serious. Instead of focusing on who won Beyonce's haters have found a way to include her name in a non-issue . I swear everytime this woman sneezes you can bet the haters are not far behind.:lol:

Black Mamba.
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:08 PM
Beyonce is very talented and we all know she looks good.

harloo
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:08 PM
Congrats:clap2: to Forrest Whittaker. It's been a long time coming. I've always liked him and can't wait to see the movie. Here's a link to a great interview/video with Forrest on NPR.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6152988

When you get to the website you have to click on the interview,

I still haven't had a chance to see The King Of Scotland. I liked him in Jason's Lyric so it's about time he gets the recognition.

This may be a good year for black actors and actresses. Jennifer Hudson nominated for best supporting, Eddie nominated for best actor, Will Smith nominated,and Dreamgirls picking up a few more. :bounce: Hopefully it doesn't end up being another Color Purple fiasco, can't wait for the Awards.

harloo
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:09 PM
I won that award back in '58 for "I Want To Live!" but then it was called "The Coloreds' Critics Awards." :o
They replaced it with the new name back in the 70s. I never had an award recalled before!

:haha: :haha:

CrossCourt~Rally
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:25 PM
I won that award back in '58 for "I Want To Live!" but then it was called "The Coloreds' Critics Awards." :o
They replaced it with the new name back in the 70s. I never had an award recalled before!

I prefered you in I CAN GET IT FOR YOU WHOLESALE! :lol: :worship:

Helen Lawson
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:28 PM
I prefered you in I CAN GET IT FOR YOU WHOLESALE! :lol: :worship:

Thanks, hon! It was an underrated performance, if you ask me. Helen taking a crack at "career gal" was a bold move.

The Daviator
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:29 PM
ROTF!! These same actresses are hailed for their performances each year and it's the same type of role and movie (elizabeth 1, 2, 3). Anyways, the award is not the serious. Instead of focusing on who won Beyonce's haters have found a way to include her name in a non-issue . I swear everytime this woman sneezes you can bet the haters are not far behind.:lol:

There's a pretty big difference between playing Elizabeth I and Elizabeth II you know :p Also, there is no 'Elizabeth 3' :p

samsung101
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:35 PM
I saw The Queen.
She was brilliant.
She made Elizabeth very human - in a royal sort of way.
The guy who was Blair, also was great.

Beyonce is being overshadowed by Jennifer Hudson's
reviews. She's getting rave reviews, and Beyonce,
not so much. Just like the storyline - one has brilliant
talent, the other has talent and looks.

Eddie Murphy is also getting better reviews than
Jamie Fox.

CrossCourt~Rally
Dec 21st, 2006, 07:37 PM
I saw The Queen.
She was brilliant.
She made Elizabeth very human - in a royal sort of way.
The guy who was Blair, also was great.

Beyonce is being overshadowed by Jennifer Hudson's
reviews. She's getting rave reviews, and Beyonce,
not so much. Just like the storyline - one has brilliant
talent, the other has talent and looks.

Eddie Murphy is also getting better reviews than
Jamie Fox.


I think Eddie and Jennifer will both wins OSCARS :bounce:

BigB08822
Dec 21st, 2006, 08:16 PM
Nice to see Idelwild make someones top 10 list. I really liked that movie!

skanky~skanketta
Dec 21st, 2006, 09:08 PM
god, i bet half the people haven't even seen dreamgirls and yet they're calling beyonce's performance awful. :rolleyes:

mykarma
Dec 21st, 2006, 10:14 PM
god, i bet half the people haven't even seen dreamgirls and yet they're calling beyonce's performance awful. :rolleyes:

You're probably right. :lol::lol::lol:

darrinbaker00
Dec 21st, 2006, 10:43 PM
Beyonce will never be half the actress Mirren:bowdown: is and that's a fact:shrug:
as for Whittaker,bloody damn time he won something:worship:
he's one hell of an actor and should have been recognize ages ago for his acting
I really hope he wins the Oscars:woohoo: :woohoo:
"Fast Times at Ridgemont High," for instance..... ;)

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 21st, 2006, 10:45 PM
ROTF!! These same actresses are hailed for their performances each year and it's the same type of role and movie (elizabeth 1, 2, 3). Anyways, the award is not the serious. Instead of focusing on who won Beyonce's haters have found a way to include her name in a non-issue . I swear everytime this woman sneezes you can bet the haters are not far behind.:lol:
What an ignorant you are! :o There are different people between Elizabeth I and Elizabeth II. As well as there's no such as Elizabeth III in this history :lol: Get the facts first before you post! :weirdo:

Jakeev
Dec 22nd, 2006, 11:12 AM
Don't diss on Helen now. She is one of my favorite Dames from England. As for her being old, she looks pretty damn good for being 61.

As for Beyonce, I get the feeling she is going to be upstaged by Jennifer Hudson pretty much the entire award season.

She's just gonna have to get over it.

MrSerenaWilliams
Dec 22nd, 2006, 12:07 PM
Well I HAVE seem the movie and Beyonce' was TERRIBLE!

*pause*.....NOT (a page from Borat ;))

She was REALLY good, but people expect that kind of performance from her. She's a star. JHud was not as big as Beyonce' and because of Beyonce' history, her playing a singer in a girl group didn't really come across as her STRETCHING her acting muscle.

She did REALLY well in the movie, but there really wasn't any emotional content for her to work with. It was Jen's movie, and regardless of the 'Supporting' categorization, she's the star, musically, and emotionally, but Beyonce' wasn't terrible by ANY standards.

harloo
Dec 22nd, 2006, 01:28 PM
What an ignorant you are! :o There are different people between Elizabeth I and Elizabeth II. As well as there's no such as Elizabeth III in this history :lol: Get the facts first before you post! :weirdo:

Get over it, it was just a joke.:lol: We all know their is a difference, but you have to admit that every year the academy rewards these type of performances. :)

Sam L
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:11 PM
Get over it, it was just a joke.:lol: We all know their is a difference, but you have to admit that every year the academy rewards these type of performances. :)

No it doesn't.

Let's look at the last 5 Best actress winners and the characters they portrayed.

2005: A country musician

2004: A female boxer

2003: A prostitute/serial killer

2002: A suicidal novelist

2001: A black single mother struggling in life and falling in love with a white man

Nothing falls into the description that you're accusing of.

MrSerenaWilliams
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:13 PM
well I think he/she means that those kind of performances always get recognized...and if they get recognized by the academy, they usually get awards from lower, regional, or specialized groups.

harloo
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:18 PM
No it doesn't.

Let's look at the last 5 Best actress winners and the characters they portrayed.

2005: A country musician

2004: A female boxer

2003: A prostitute/serial killer

2002: A suicidal novelist

2001: A black single mother struggling in life and falling in love with a white man

Nothing falls into the description that you're accusing of.

And like I said before it was a joke. Did I mention anything about winning? I assume it's an honor to even be nominated and I consider that a "reward". Break down how many of these type of roles have been nominated or touted as great performances over the years. ;)

If you thought I was somehow attempting to diss British actors and actresses then you are sadly mistaken. Geez, like I told the other poster: GET OVER IT:)

Sam L
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:19 PM
And like I said before it was a joke. Did I mention anything about winning? I assume it's an honor to even be nominated and I consider that a "reward". Break down how many of these type of roles have been nominated or touted as great performances over the years. ;)

If you thought I was somehow attempting to diss British actors and actresses then you are sadly mistaken. Geez, like I told the other poster: GET OVER IT:)

Ok! But here I thought you were just been bitter about Nicole Kidman again. :p

harloo
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:23 PM
Ok! But here I thought you were just been bitter about Nicole Kidman again. :p

I'm not even thinking about Nicole Kidman here. If I trashed her the way you do Beyonce then I could see what you were saying.:p

Sam L
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:25 PM
I'm not even thinking about Nicole Kidman here. If I trashed her the way you do Beyonce then I could see what you were saying.:p
Well that's what you get for making homophobic comments and saying shit like I'll be the next queen of Hollywood blah blah.

harloo
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:30 PM
Well that's what you get for making homophobic comments and saying shit like I'll be the next queen of Hollywood blah blah.

Excuse me, but please point out where I made a homophobic remark towards you Sam. Maybe you have me confused with someone else because I don't ever recall attacking you in that manner or making these alleged comments.
:rolleyes:

Sam L
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:32 PM
Excuse me, but please point out where I made a homophobic remark towards you Sam. Maybe you have me confused with someone else because I don't ever recall attacking you in that manner or making these alleged comments.
:rolleyes:
No I was talking about Beyonce.

harloo
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:39 PM
No I was talking about Beyonce.

OK, but even before Beyonce made those remarks you were trashing her. ;)

Kart
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:42 PM
I like Beyonce in small doses but she's almost certainly going to be a victim of her own success as far as her acting career goes.

Having said that, if Renee Zellwegger (sp ?) can win an Oscar then anyone can :tape:.

I'd rather chop off important parts of my anatomy than go and watch Dreamgirls as it's not my kind of film but I wouldn't be surprised if Beyonce's not as bad an actress as a lot of people like to make out.

Rocketta
Dec 22nd, 2006, 02:47 PM
I like Beyonce in small doses but she's almost certainly going to be a victim of her own success as far as her acting career goes.

Having said that, if Renee Zellwegger (sp ?) can win an Oscar then anyone can :tape:.

I'd rather chop off important parts of my anatomy than go and watch Dreamgirls as it's not my kind of film but I wouldn't be surprised if Beyonce's not as bad an actress as a lot of people like to make out.

What do you mean not your kind of film? What's your kind of film? :)

Kart
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:02 PM
^ You know what my kind of film is :p.

Nowadays when I go the cinema I want to escape the world around me rather than think about it.

I suspect that Dreamgirls has a serious undercurrent to it which would mean concentrating and I can barely read posts on this board of more than ten lines :tape:.

It's strange because five years ago or so I probably would have jumped at the chance to see hyped, recommended movies like this one but I guess habits and tastes change :shrug:.

MrSerenaWilliams
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:04 PM
it's def. worth the 2 hours of ur time :yeah: DEF!

harloo
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:09 PM
I like Beyonce in small doses but she's almost certainly going to be a victim of her own success as far as her acting career goes.

Having said that, if Renee Zellwegger (sp ?) can win an Oscar then anyone can :tape:.

I'd rather chop off important parts of my anatomy than go and watch Dreamgirls as it's not my kind of film but I wouldn't be surprised if Beyonce's not as bad an actress as a lot of people like to make out.

I've always questioned why certain performances won over others. Usually when a performance is hyped these days I expect it not to be great. After all the hype over Reese Witherspoon I saw her performance in, "Walk The Line" and thought she was flat.

While I like Beyonce as a performer her acting thus far hasn't been stellar. However, I'm hearing good things about her in Dreamgirls so hopefully she's gotten better.

Do you dislike the musical factor of Dreamgirls? I know some people don't like musicals at all.

Rocketta
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:10 PM
^ You know what my kind of film is :p.

Nowadays when I go the cinema I want to escape the world around me rather than think about it.

I suspect that Dreamgirls has a serious undercurrent to it which would mean concentrating and I can barely read posts on this board of more than ten lines :tape:.

It's strange because five years ago or so I probably would have jumped at the chance to see hyped, recommended movies like this one but I guess habits and tastes change :shrug:.

:lol: Last movie I heard you say you saw was the James Bond movie.....yeah no hype on that one. ;)

I see what you're saying. I feel that way too but most of the times just about tv. :)

Kart
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:17 PM
I've always questioned why certain performances won over others. Usually when a performance is hyped these days I expect it not to be great. After all the hype over Reese Witherspoon I saw her performance in, "Walk The Line" and thought she was flat.

While I like Beyonce as a performer her acting thus far hasn't been stellar. However, I'm hearing good things about her in Dreamgirls so hopefully she's gotten better.

And what do you have against Dreamgirl? Do you dislike the musical factor?

I agree that hyped performances are rarely good these days but I reckon Beyonce will be good. Just a feeling.

I've got nothing against Dreamgirls though - I like the odd musical movie on occasion :). Like I said though I think it'll be just too serious for what I want from a cinematic experience.

I'd probably watch it if it were on TV and I were at a loose end.

Kart
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:21 PM
:lol: Last movie I heard you say you saw was the James Bond movie.....yeah no hype on that one. ;)


I didn't have to concentrate very hard though on that one though did I :p.

Except to avoid noticing the girls I went with over-salivating over Daniel Craig :rolleyes: :scared:.

Rocketta
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:25 PM
I didn't have to concentrate very hard though on that one though did I :p.

Except to avoid noticing the girls I went with over-salivating over Daniel Craig :rolleyes: :scared:.

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Kart
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:36 PM
http://smileyvillage.com/builder/index.php?text=I%27M+ABOUT+TO+UPCHUCK%21&graemlin=5&url=&size=8&color=BF4080&mode=convert

Be glad you weren't there.

I took them to see The Holiday this week which at least was a bit more evenly spread ;).

MrSerenaWilliams
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:37 PM
how was that? I wanted to see it

harloo
Dec 22nd, 2006, 03:38 PM
I agree that hyped performances are rarely good these days but I reckon Beyonce will be good. Just a feeling.

I've got nothing against Dreamgirls though - I like the odd musical movie on occasion :). Like I said though I think it'll be just too serious for what I want from a cinematic experience.

I'd probably watch it if it were on TV and I were at a loose end.

Instead of going to the theatre and wasting money at times I should stay home and wait for some movies to debut on television. :lol: Often times they never live up to the hype. I recently saw Babel and really felt like I was taken.

I'm going to see Dreamgirls because it will be a family event, comes out on Christmas day ,and everyone is excited about the film. I can't wait until the movie opens in theatres because we have been hearing alot about it these days. Hopefully it lives up to the praise.:)