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hablo
Dec 13th, 2006, 05:46 PM
I wonder how valid such research is anyway. :lol:
But sharapova found her way in it. I didn't know she played junior as a left-handed player! :eek:
I didn't know if this article really belonged on GM :o:p


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061213.wxhand13/BNStory/specialScienceandHealth/home

Some ambidextrous have it both ways
They're likelier to be bisexual and suffer from asthma and dyslexia, research shows

ANNE MCILROY

People who can write with both their right and left hands are more likely to be bisexual, new research has found.

For years, scientists have been fascinated by left-handed people, and a number of studies have suggested that southpaws are more likely to be homosexual, or to suffer from certain illnesses and disorders.

Not true, according to University of Guelph psychology professor Michael Peters. He and his colleagues found no differences in the health or sexual preferences of right-handed and left-handed people.

"In fact, they were remarkably similar to each other in all of the comparisons we looked at," he said.
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But those who were ambidextrous, at least when it came to writing, stood out.

Not only were they more likely to be bisexual, and to a lesser extent homosexual, they also reported suffering from asthma, hyperactivity and dyslexia more than individuals who were more definitive about which hand they prefer.

The study involved 255,000 people who answered questions on the BBC Science and Nature website. Participants were asked 150 questions about demographics, personality, sexuality, social attitudes and behaviours.

The study was not billed as being about left-handedness. That means it didn't attract a disproportionate number of left-handed people, who make up roughly 10 per cent of the population in North America and Europe.

It also did not ask people whether they were left- or right-handed, since people who use both tend to say they are lefties, Dr. Peters said. Instead, volunteers were asked to rate their preference for writing on a scale of one to five.

One meant they liked using their left hand and five meant they preferred their right.

Those who chose three -- about 1 per cent of the participants -- were comfortable with either hand. And they turned out to be the most interesting, Dr. Peters said.

For example, among men, only 4 per cent of right-handers and 4.5 per cent of left-handers reported that they were bisexual.

But among those who wrote with both hands that number was 9.2 per cent.

Among women, 6.2 per cent of right-handers and 6.3 per cent of left-handers reported they were bisexual, compared to 15.6 per cent among the more ambidextrous volunteers.

Dr. Peters and his colleagues, British researchers Stian Reimers and John Manning, published their findings in a recent edition of the journal Brain and Cognition.

They had no way to verify that participants were telling the truth. But they found the percentage of people who said they were left-handed, homosexual, or dyslexic mirrored the numbers found in other large studies.

Their research is the latest offering in a field full of contradictory findings.

For example, in 2000, researchers at the University of Toronto and the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health found that being left-handed is more common among lesbians, and to a lesser extent among gay men.

Others have investigated whether being left-handed is associated with dyslexia, hyperactivity or asthma.

The ambidextrous have received much less scientific scrutiny.

Dr. Peters is ambivalent about the term, because it implies people can write equally well with both hands.

This is rare, he says, and usually people are more skilled with one hand than the other, even if they can use both.

He says it is hard to know whether baseball players who can hit both ways, such as Pete Rose or Mickey Mantle, are truly ambidextrous, or whether they have worked hard to acquire a difficult skill.

Same with soccer players who are adept at kicking the ball with both their feet, such as German Gerd Mueller.

Russian tennis player Maria Sharapova is so good with both hands that she played left-handed as a junior.

"At one point, I didn't know if I was going to play lefty or righty or both hands," she has said.

All young children experiment with both hands.

"There is a phase, that can be longer or shorter, in which the parents say, 'Oh, he's going to be left-handed,' or 'Oh, he's going to be right-handed,' " Dr. Peters said.

"In the end, it shakes down by three, four or five years and focuses on one or the other."

Left-handed kids can take longer to declare themselves, he says, but children who don't make a choice are likely to use both hands as an adult.

Steffica Greles
Dec 13th, 2006, 05:55 PM
:lol: :rolleyes:

MistyGrey
Dec 13th, 2006, 05:58 PM
Does Amelie know?

Warrior
Dec 13th, 2006, 06:00 PM
Maria could be a bi! LOL

Does anyone rememer Koulikovskaya? A girl with two forehands. She played Seles at USO a few years ago.

hablo
Dec 13th, 2006, 06:00 PM
Does Amelie know?
Oh no you didn't ! :rolls:

Momo doesn't seem to be attracted to young-ins, however :tape:

miffedmax
Dec 13th, 2006, 06:03 PM
I suspect this story is fueling many Masha fantasies.

It's funny. I was one of those soccer players who was equally adept (well, more likely equally inept) with either foot, but I can't do much of anything with my left hand.

Wigglytuff
Dec 13th, 2006, 06:07 PM
i say it all the time. people need to learn to choose a team. you cant be one and the other. its bad for you. :lol: :lol: </ignorance> :haha: :haha:

Lefty.
Dec 13th, 2006, 06:15 PM
:lol: I am ambidextrous, but I am not a bi.

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 13th, 2006, 06:22 PM
They might have had a better chance of rationalizing their theory if they used Rafa Nadal instead of Maria Sharapova.

!<blocparty>!
Dec 13th, 2006, 06:47 PM
They might have had a better chance of rationalizing their theory if they used Rafa Nadal instead of Maria Sharapova.

Not really, since Rafa is gay. :p

Steffica Greles
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:17 PM
Really, these cynical attempts to simplify sexual orientation are completely unhelpful to everybody.

They can be invoked by homosexuals to argue that they are genetically pre-disposed towards their sexual orientation, something I think is a gross over-simplification when the bottom line is that sexual acts between consenting adults are legitimate whatever the sex, so long as they are not harming others -- and homosexuals are not harming anybody.

And let's not forget, these so-called findings can also be invoked by heterosexuals (and increasingly they are being) to argue that gays are genetically different from themselves, as are bi-sexuals, and thus heterocentric dominance can continue unabated, because "bi-sexuals" and "homosexuals" will always be a minority.

I've said before that I believe we are all omnisexual. That means potentially open to enjoying all sexual experiences. I dislike the term "bi-sexual" because I believe that is effectively just another classification. That does not mean we act on all of our impulses, still less that we are aware of these potentials for gratification. There are so many environmental and social factors related to gender and so many other variables which interplay. That does not mean that I disregard the concept that people have preferences for one sex or another. I just don't believe in categorisation and people identiying themselves by their sexual orientation.

The truth is we will not know for a long time how many people are "bi-sexual" because all of our institutions are hetero-dominated and people are indoctrinated into gender divisions and almost uniformly (even gays and lesbians) conform accordingly.

hablo
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:34 PM
You make good observations, Steffica Greles. ;)

I just thought it was hilarious that they found a way to include Sharpie in this article, so that's why I posted it. :p:lol:

Il Primo!
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Oh no you didn't ! :rolls:

Momo doesn't seem to be attracted to young-ins, however :tape:

They kiss each other at the end of their matches since Wimbledon.. Some extras in the loker room?:hehehe:

Apoleb
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:42 PM
Really, these cynical attempts to simplify sexual orientation are completely unhelpful to everybody.

They are not simplifying anything. It's not like they said being ambidextrous makes you bisexual. The brain is a very complex organ, but the neural circuits are all interconnected with each other. So it's not that surprising that two very different "mental" or "nervous" capacities be connected to each other. And this has nothing with genetics anyway. Environment and upbringing most certainly influence the physiology of the brain and neural circuits.

The study was done by a professional team, so they aren't playing games here.

controlfreak
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:44 PM
Bisexual, and two good hands? I guess that would make ambidextrous people pretty useful in a threesome...

hablo
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:45 PM
They kiss each other at the end of their matches since Wimbledon.. Some extras in the loker room?:hehehe:

It was even Sharpie who initiated it at Wimbledon. :lol:
For the extras in the locker room, I'm going to leave that one alone. :p

Steffica Greles
Dec 13th, 2006, 10:51 PM
They are not simplifying anything. It's not like they said being ambidextrous makes you bisexual. The brain is a very complex organ, but the neural circuits are all interconnected with each other. So it's not that surprising that two very different "mental" or "nervous" capacities be connected to each other. And this has nothing with genetics anyway. Environment and upbringing most certainly influence the physiology of the brain and neural circuits.

The study was done by a professional team, so they aren't playing games here.


Well, as usual, I'm guilty of only skim reading.

But I just get so blase about these types of research. They are manipulative and, as I've already suggested, I'm dubious as to why it is they are conducted. Simplification suits many people, both homo and hetero. But I doubt it leads to the truth.

About a year ago, there was some guy on the TV talking about how he had found that "gay" men and "straight" men had different natural body scents.

I can't remember exactly how it was tested and what his theory was, but basically I do remember how ridiculous he looked when it was tested on the studio audience and it unanimously failed.

I haven't heard of him since.

You see what I mean? I'm always hearing this sort of rubbish is nascent research. In fact, it's skewed and conducted for the type of reasons I pointed out in my last post.

MinnyGophers
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:02 PM
They kiss each other at the end of their matches since Wimbledon.. Some extras in the loker room?:hehehe:

Very true. I haven't seen Maria kissing anyone else after a match...
and anyone remembers that pic where she is strutting her stuff while watching Amelie practice? :lol:
There is something there. ;)

fufuqifuqishahah
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:05 PM
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Some ambidextrous have it both ways
They're likelier to be bisexual and suffer from asthma and dyslexia, research shows


:lol: :lol: :p :p

Bumsby
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:13 PM
Momo doesn't seem to be attracted to young-ins, however :tape:
She'll make an exception for Maria :hehehe:

Does anyone rememer Koulikovskaya? A girl with two forehands.
:hearts: I'd love to have two backhands :p

Very true. I haven't seen Maria kissing anyone else after a match...
and anyone remembers that pic where she is strutting her stuff while watching Amelie practice? :lol:
Which pic? What? Where? Can you post it or link it? I don't remember :p :shrug: I do remember them practice together at the Australian Open 2005, though

Brett.
Dec 14th, 2006, 01:32 AM
I am ambitereous and i am gay! :lol:

MinnyGophers
Dec 14th, 2006, 03:26 AM
She'll make an exception for Maria :hehehe:


:hearts: I'd love to have two backhands :p


Which pic? What? Where? Can you post it or link it? I don't remember :p :shrug: I do remember them practice together at the Australian Open 2005, though

Oh boy i dont have a link to it ahaha
It was posted in these boards though, if i remember correctly it was during the USOpen 06.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 15th, 2006, 11:42 PM
U of G shoutout, wooo!

Joana
Dec 15th, 2006, 11:54 PM
I've said before that I believe we are all omnisexual. That means potentially open to enjoying all sexual experiences.

Umm, no. Now that's what I call a gross simplification.

This study just points out, just like thread title says, that ambidextrous people are more likely to be bisexual. Nothing more, nothing less.

hablo
Dec 16th, 2006, 01:03 AM
U of G shoutout, wooo!

:scratch::lol:

Crazy Canuck
Dec 16th, 2006, 08:08 AM
:scratch::lol:
Why the head scratching? :p

I actually couldn't remember if I had ever had that prof, so I looked up his faculty page. It appears that I did not.

Goes to show you how often I went to my psych classes in my early years if I had to look that up to figure it out.