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Keaka
Dec 3rd, 2006, 07:49 PM
:confused: Vote!I hope she can... :)

Nicolás89
Dec 3rd, 2006, 07:54 PM
with a litle bit of more confidence yes for sure she can
now she will be seeded everywhere not like the beginnig of the year:bounce:

The Dawntreader
Dec 3rd, 2006, 07:57 PM
Serve would have to improve to become a top 3 player. the reason she lost her top 3 position was because everybody got a handle of that serve. Hingis is still as vulnerable to the power as ever she was. The top 3 of justine, momo, and Sharapova have seperated themselves from the rest at the minute. Dont know if it will be hingis penetrating that group:shrug:

MrSerenaWilliams
Dec 3rd, 2006, 07:58 PM
I hope so, but if Amelie, Justine, Kim, and Maria (hopefully Serena) are healthy, she's going to have to play a LOT of tennis and avoid losses like the ones she had at the last 2 majors.

Vacant
Dec 3rd, 2006, 07:59 PM
Top Five is a realistic goal I guess. But I dont see her beating the Top 4 (Momo, Juju, Maria and Kim) regularly enough to be ranked in the top three.

Princeza
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:03 PM
:hearts: that would be great :hearts:

http://www.j-hasenkopf.de/content/people/041_Martina_Hingis_1.jpg


Go Marti

IMPOSSIBLE
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:03 PM
Yes Martina

TF Chipmunk
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:04 PM
I don't think so.

!<blocparty>!
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:05 PM
She'll be top 5.

We need to kick Petrova out.

MrSerenaWilliams
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:06 PM
Top 5 for SURE

IceHock
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:09 PM
Well Amelie and Justine have lots to defend at the slams next year and Maria has the Us Open series. It's very possible for her to make it in the top 3 especially with the way she was playing in the YEC, took JHH and Amelie to 3 sets.

Nicolás89
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:12 PM
Top Five is a realistic goal I guess. But I dont see her beating the Top 4 (Momo, Juju, Maria and Kim) regularly enough to be ranked in the top three.

kim is not a top 4, kuzzy is and she can beat her, she can beat masha too she was close to beat ame and justine so i guess with more confidence she can with the top 4, i dont know if she can beat kim she never was really close to beat her anyway so its gonna be really difficult for martina beat kim but we'll see :wavey:

Vacant
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:14 PM
kim is not a top 4, kuzzy is and she can beat her, she can beat masha too she was close to beat ame and justine so i guess with more confidence she can with the top 4, i dont know if she can beat kim she never was really close to beat her anyway so its gonna be really difficult for martina beat kim but we'll see :wavey:

I meant top four, as in the best players around at the moment, not rankings.

Lunaris
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:19 PM
Hardly, if the others are healthy. She is dangerous on clay, but on different surfaces I expect her falling easily to the powerful tennis of the russians and belgians.

morningglory
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:23 PM
No... I see her around 5-7 ranked next year

HenryMag.
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:39 PM
no

Dexter
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:45 PM
Top5 yes. Top3 is a bit too far-fetched IMHO.

gocanadago
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:45 PM
I don't think she will...

47eggs
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:49 PM
nope. never again i dont think. she will finish next year at 12 or 13 in the world.

Sund7101
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:50 PM
Yes, I think she can and will.

Joachim1978
Dec 3rd, 2006, 09:50 PM
I wish. But I don't think so.

Dawn Marie
Dec 3rd, 2006, 09:54 PM
Yes. She only needs to defend some of her points and win a few more big ones and she'll be top 3. She took Momo and Henin to three sets. They are top two.

Kart
Dec 3rd, 2006, 09:55 PM
Top three is a little optimistic IMHO :lol:.

That said, if Kim is really planning a reduced schedule in her final year it'll definitely make a bit of extra space at the top.

Neptune
Dec 3rd, 2006, 09:58 PM
I don't think. It's too much for her but Top 5, I guess.

Sally Struthers
Dec 3rd, 2006, 10:00 PM
I think so because she's very consistent and the players above her have been known to be injury prone.

Ben.
Dec 3rd, 2006, 10:04 PM
No I don't think Hingis will break into the Top 3 next year for the moment, that's how I feel personally but it would be good if she does.
I think she will at least reach No.4 or No.5 maybe.

She needs to work on a few things in her game like the serve which is still predictable & players can just whack a return past her. She needs to have heavier groundstrokes & place more depth on them or otherwise she'll struggle against Justine & co. Plus she should still use that marvellous tennis brain of hers.

But then again she could still reach top 3 without a big serve & groundies & still use her smarts & determination to reach that echelon. Plus her consistency & players getting injury prone may help her cause.

In The Zone
Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:14 PM
Hingis will probably make # 5, at best. Mauresmo, Justine, and Maria are going nowhere and Kuznetsova has few points to defend until Miami. With Kim's reduced schedule, Hingis might be able to hop her but even then it's going to be tough.

The Daviator
Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:16 PM
No, top 5 is very plausible though :)

thrust
Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:17 PM
NO, especially since she has points to defend throughout next season. This year all she had to do was win a few matches each tournament to pick up points. I think she will be somewhere between 7-10 at the end of next year.

kittyking
Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:43 PM
Very interesting topic

I think she will be a top 5 next year (Kim wont play many tournaments and I cant see Kuzzy getting easy draws for 2 years in a row) - but top 3, I really dunno.

The top 3 would really mean that she has to win a grand slam and perform well at the rest, and I mean im not sure if Martina is really capable of that quite yet. Justine, Maria are at their best way too good for Martina and Amelie will have alot of pressure on her to defend grand slam points....

pooh14
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:07 AM
alot may say it depends on how other top player perform, but i say it depends on how hingis perform. if she doesnt have any mental block, definitely yes.

jenny161185
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:09 AM
yes I definately could see her up there - she just needs more matches against the top players to make her more match tough against the best ya know I really think this yr was all aboutr re building her stamina and that we're going to see even better results next yr goooooooooooooooo Marty!

Slampova
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:15 AM
If she gets a little bit more confident :).. And works on her fitness so she doesn't get tired as often as she does - A little work on the serve wouldn't go a miss either :p

Ukey
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:27 AM
No

Steffica Greles
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:40 AM
It's not impossible, but it all depends on the rest of the field, as so often has been the case in Hingis' career. Martina will be consistent in her own way and it's up to the other girls to knock her down.

Sharapova, Mauresmo, Henin, Clijsters, Kuznetsova, Serena, Venus, Davenport* -- those are the players with too much for Martina at their best.

Petrova, Dementieva, Ivanovic, Vaidisova -- those are the players who I believe would have too much for Hingis if they played the right way on an especially good day. And they all have a higher gear, in my opinion. People will disagree on that. But just look at how Dementieva thrashed Hingis in Tokyo, 0&2. And I can't clearly say that Elena is any better a player than the other three. All have more weapons than Martina.

So there would have to be many injuries. And that's not forgetting Hingis' injuries. For Martina to reach the top 3, she would have to play a schedule of 16+ tournaments and reach the latter stages of most of them. I doubt her body would take it.

So we can argue over Hingis' ability, but I think the real bottom line here is that her body would not stand up to the rigours of the tour if she was playing regular matches against class opposition, as a top 3 player would.

goldenlox
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:43 AM
The difference this year is that she will be seeded as a top 8 player to start the year.
It's certainly possible. Nadia got to #3 going into RG, then was injured.
The gap between most of these players is overrated. Sveta beat Amelie 3 times this year.
It depends on who is healthy.

Vincey!
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:44 AM
Top 5 ;)

klok
Dec 4th, 2006, 12:59 AM
I would love to see her back in the top three but I think top 5 will be her peak this year.

franny
Dec 4th, 2006, 01:03 AM
I think she can make top 5, prolly right at number 5. If Kim is back and healthy, then the top four will be Justine, Maria, Amelie, and Kim. Martina can definitely take the 5 spot though, but she'd have to do as well during the early part of the year and definitely improve in the summer.

Jaffas85
Dec 4th, 2006, 02:30 AM
I think she can realistically reach #5 but I don't think she can get any higher.

lynch79
Dec 4th, 2006, 02:55 AM
I think she will.

treufreund
Dec 4th, 2006, 05:03 AM
I will just go ahead and vote purely with my heart.. YES :D

louisa2k2
Dec 4th, 2006, 05:04 AM
def top 5 maybe top 3 next year.

Buitenzorg
Dec 4th, 2006, 05:16 AM
Of course she can!

anything possible

WhatTheDeuce
Dec 4th, 2006, 05:18 AM
I really doubt it, especially if the best are remaining healthy for the most part. And of course she'd really need to avoid crappy losses like that ones she had at the slams this year. It's POSSIBLE, but just very unlikely. I'd like to see it happen though, and should it happen, I hope it's because Martina earned it and not because she overplayed and others got injured.

LoveFifteen
Dec 4th, 2006, 05:52 AM
Martina's spent more time at #1 that all the other bitches ranked above her combined! She doesn't even need to worry about her ranking. It's not important. She just needs to enjoy herself and aim for winning the French before calling it a career.

WhatTheDeuce
Dec 4th, 2006, 05:55 AM
Martina's spent more time at #1 that all the other bitches ranked above her combined! She doesn't even need to worry about her ranking. It's not important. She just needs to enjoy herself and aim for winning the French before calling it a career.
True dat. If not the French then just more slams in general is what she should be focusing on. And I think it's somewhat realistic if things fall into place and shes playing her best.

LUIS9
Dec 4th, 2006, 07:32 AM
If she improves her serve and forehand, I think she can, and will. Her backhand is terrific, but her forehand and serve lack pace, and she drastically need to improve both if she wants to get into the top 3.

This too, her serve and forehand have always been her achilles heal. Nevertheless, they weren't as erratic before as they seemed throughout most of her '06 campaign. She's especially vulnerable to her forehand side and when she tries to ump it she is very prone to errors. This wasn't the case from 97-99. In fact 97-2000, '98 being her off season during her hey day period.

Becoming more consistent and accurate on her groundies will be vital, she's capable of hitting crisper groundies and taking the ball early than most of what I saw from her in 2006 with the exception of the semis in tokyo pan pacific, she can't hit the ball too much earlier than that.

If she sorts the above, becomes more consistent in general and isnt as prone to mental lapses and fatigue she can certainly be a consistent or permanent member of the top 5 certainly top 6, top three is quite far fetched at the moment unless she starts hitting 105mph+ serves regularly. Sorting her stamina and fitness issues will be a vital component to add to the above must improvements.

Ben.
Dec 4th, 2006, 07:35 AM
This too, her serve and forehand have always been her achilles heal. Nevertheless, they weren't as erratic before as they seemed throughout most of her '06 campaign. She's especially vulnerable to her forehand side and when she tries to ump it she is very prone to errors. This wasn't the case from 97-99. In fact 97-2000, '98 being her off season during her hey day period.

Becoming more consistent and accurate on her groundies will be vital, she's capable of hitting crisper groundies and taking the ball early than most of what I saw from her in 2006 with the exception of the semis in tokyo pan pacific, she can't hit the ball too much earlier than that.

If she sorts the above, becomes more consistent in general and isnt as prone to mental lapses and fatigue she can certainly be a consistent or permanent member of the top 5 certainly top 6, top three is quite far fetched at the moment unless she starts hitting 105mph+ serves regularly. Sorting her stamina and fitness issues will be a vital component to add to the above must improvements.

all true.

MrSerenaWilliams
Dec 4th, 2006, 09:40 AM
Martina's spent more time at #1 that all the other bitches ranked above her combined! She doesn't even need to worry about her ranking. It's not important. She just needs to enjoy herself and aim for winning the French before calling it a career.
:worship::worship::worship:

Mauresmo Fan
Dec 4th, 2006, 09:48 AM
hell no

cheo23
Dec 4th, 2006, 02:40 PM
The last couple of years, the top players get injured anyways, so she can sneak up THERE during the 2007 SEASON.

She'll have to IMPROVE that WEAK ASS SERVE, add more power to her groundstrokes w/ no errors, hit winners off short balls CONSISTENTLY BETTER, not getting injured AT ALL.

thrust
Dec 4th, 2006, 02:54 PM
Martina will never win another slam, especially the FO.

croat123
Dec 4th, 2006, 03:10 PM
i hope so, but i don't think she will

hope she proves me wrong :)

jazar
Dec 4th, 2006, 03:53 PM
not likely, but she has a slim chance after wimbledon when clijsters won't be playing anymore

Wayn77
Dec 4th, 2006, 05:12 PM
No chance :p

Nicolás89
Dec 4th, 2006, 06:09 PM
her serve has improved a lot, she is capable of hitting + 105mph serves, against clijsters in sn diego she was doing a few of 108 mph serves ,that is a prove of her improvement on the serve side, at the wta champ she was hitting very strongs serves too she is using her serve as a weapon now so martina can hit +105mph serves? sure she can but it seems like she doesnt want to or she doesnt know how to use her serve indeed

Drake1980
Dec 4th, 2006, 06:14 PM
I hope so! That would be remarkable. She has not to many points to defend around Wimbledon and a few weeks after so she could make Top 5 or 6 anyway!

Chewie
Dec 5th, 2006, 04:49 AM
Sure she can.

Orion
Dec 5th, 2006, 05:57 AM
I could legitimately see her at #4, with Clijsters cutting back and Kuznetsova still crazy. If Mauresmo, Henin, or Sharapova lose focus for any of the majors, though, there will be hell to pay. Too many people are positioning themselves for a crack at the top 3 for them to slip up. Henin has TONS to defend in particular, if she loses before the quarters at even two slams (and history shows she tends to fade the year after she has ridiculous success) she'll be hard pressed to keep her top 3 ranking. She only does well when she doesn't have any problems, and it's hard to see her having a year of full health. Sharapova, too, has such a high-pressured game that her body will likely pull a Davenport and cause her trouble, which is too bad. Mauresmo is the x-factor. She could go back to #1, or she could go back to also-ran. Her move. But Kuznetsova, Hingis, and Petrova are ALL clamoring for the top three spots, with Clijsters not a far cry from it.

franny
Dec 5th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Honestly, Martina improving the speed of her first serve is great and all, but when she misses, she's in so much danger. Her second serve still sucks, and I don't see it getting so much better that it can't be attacked. The key to her game now is her forehand. When she first came back to the tour, I noticed that her forehand had much more topspin. Maybe that is the direction to go? Maybe she needs to develop extreme topspin on her shots, so much that it's like Nadal's forehand. I mean, if she wants to win the french, that's the way to do it.

Shimizu Amon
Dec 5th, 2006, 09:17 AM
No she can't. She's not good enough, not anymore.

Exiliado
Dec 5th, 2006, 09:27 AM
Sure she can. Let's see what happend with Nadia and Maria S. It will be difficult for Martina.

ioni
Dec 5th, 2006, 09:41 AM
i don't think so but who knows i can be wrong about this :angel:

saki
Dec 5th, 2006, 01:12 PM
It's possible. Justine and Maria aren't going anywhere but if Amelie doesn't defend her GS titles, Martina could take that top 3 spot. Whatever her ranking, I don't see her winning another Slam without a lot of luck and that's what she's playing for.

Highlandman
Dec 5th, 2006, 02:46 PM
I don't think so.

Kunal
Dec 5th, 2006, 03:04 PM
its a really tough call....she will get better but i dunno if that will put her into the top 3

LUIS9
Dec 6th, 2006, 03:18 AM
her serve has improved a lot, she is capable of hitting + 105mph serves, against clijsters in sn diego she was doing a few of 108 mph serves ,that is a prove of her improvement on the serve side, at the wta champ she was hitting very strongs serves too she is using her serve as a weapon now so martina can hit +105mph serves? sure she can but it seems like she doesnt want to or she doesnt know how to use her serve indeed

She indeed is capable of it, in fact she was capable of this in the late 90's. I think prior to 2006 her fastest clock serve was 106 or 108mph. It's that they are so far between, its like three here and there over 100, her avg first serve is very rarely above 96mph.

Ben.
Dec 6th, 2006, 03:20 AM
it all depends on the top 5 players performances in 2007 really to see whether martina will be in top 3 or not.

LUIS9
Dec 6th, 2006, 03:21 AM
Honestly, Martina improving the speed of her first serve is great and all, but when she misses, she's in so much danger. Her second serve still sucks, and I don't see it getting so much better that it can't be attacked. The key to her game now is her forehand. When she first came back to the tour, I noticed that her forehand had much more topspin. Maybe that is the direction to go? Maybe she needs to develop extreme topspin on her shots, so much that it's like Nadal's forehand. I mean, if she wants to win the french, that's the way to do it.

I know her forehand is really a vulnerable shot, she commits so many errors from this shot I never remember her hitting that many errors from the forehand even when not forced or in positions where she shouldnt hit errors under no circumstance. Her second serve is her self destruction shot but her forehand isnt too far behind in this category.

Dawn Marie
Dec 6th, 2006, 04:24 AM
She was out for 3 years. In 2006 she made it to the top 8 or 9.

This year coming up she'll be match fitter and imho will pose a threat to alot of power babes and to Momo and Henin. If she keeps improving her forhand and serve she can be top 3. I mean she made it this far without match fitness.

Now that she played a whole schedule this year she'll be more than ready to do some more damage this year. She'll lose some but she'll win em too. If Petrova can be in the top and Elena D then Hingis can do it.

She has to play like she did in the beginning of the year. Her all court game was in effect. The second half she lost some confidence and imho got tired out.

Hingis isn't my favorite but not alot of women play like she does. That in iteself is to her advantage.

selyoink
Dec 6th, 2006, 05:15 AM
No. Only if there are a lot of injuries to the top players will she get in the top 3.

hingisGOAT
Dec 6th, 2006, 07:41 AM
a few things: hingis' forehand looked great at the YEC championships. the 'weakness' of her forehand is overrated -- her forehand down the line is such an excellent shot, with so much depth and topspin.

her serve is getting better.

her fitness is getting better.

she typically starts off strong in the beginning of the season -- and since she'll actually be SEEDED at the tournaments where she lost early in '06, she'll manage to pick a substantial chunk of points in the beginning of the year.

her schedule in the second half of '06 was sparse and involved a few early losses. certainly, in 2007, she will improve those results

to think that, with her high ranking (and thus seeding), increasing confidence and fitness, that hingis' ranking won't continue to climb is ridiculous. as others have said, she'll be top 5 for sure.

i honestly don't see sharapova going anywhere. henin and mauresmo, however, are injury prone, and mauresmo in particular looked vulnerable outside of the two slams this year.

so yes hingis WILL be a top 5 player next year and she has a chance to make the top 3 :)

amazing :bowdown:

Dawn Marie
Dec 6th, 2006, 08:02 AM
Also Hingis won Rome last year. Nobody outside of Henin is showing any signs of being a real threat on clay. In other words Hingis's game is made for the clay. I can see her winning RG. Just like I can see Venus (if healthy) winning Wimbledon. Hingis surprised me this year somewhat. I thought it would be difficult to get into the top 15 but she did it. She has the talent to become top 3 for sure. Although SHE MUST IMPROVE her game like Justine is. She must revamp her tweaks. Like Justine.

I think Venus,Serena and Hingis can become top 5 again. LOL

Si_Hi
Dec 6th, 2006, 08:59 AM
she can be a top8 easily, but it's difficult for her to get into top3 even top5.

Ryan
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:41 PM
Dawn :worship:. ;) I think as long as she plays the way she did at the YEC and keeps getting fitter, she can only keep climbing. With a ranking in the top 7 she's almost guaranteed to make up points at events like Miami, Warsaw, Wimbledon, Stanford (which she should play). I see her making the top 5, and top 3 is achievable depending on how the current top 3 perform.

Steffica Greles
Dec 6th, 2006, 02:33 PM
Dawn :worship:. ;) I think as long as she plays the way she did at the YEC and keeps getting fitter, she can only keep climbing. With a ranking in the top 7 she's almost guaranteed to make up points at events like Miami, Warsaw, Wimbledon, Stanford (which she should play). I see her making the top 5, and top 3 is achievable depending on how the current top 3 perform.

Nah. She'll just get injured again if she's penetrating deeper into draws and playing gruelling three setters against the top eight on a regular basis. Her body won't take the rigour.

And what's all this about the YEC? She did indeed pick up her form and play well, from what I've seen of her matches. But she still lost 2 and won 1. And the match against Petrova, who many would argue is also no great danger to the top four players, was close. Mauresmo was tired and rusty, as we saw in her first match, and Henin was still playing her way back to form, having not competed since the U.S Open.

oliverbecken
Dec 6th, 2006, 02:40 PM
No, in top-5...perhaps

Nicolás89
Dec 6th, 2006, 03:09 PM
Also Hingis won Rome last year. Nobody outside of Henin is showing any signs of being a real threat on clay. In other words Hingis's game is made for the clay. I can see her winning RG.

you forgot nadia, outside the french open she was the real deal in clay this year

Davenselesport
Dec 6th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Yes it's very possible she will reach 3 or 4, but I'm not sure how long she will stay there.

Go Hingis!

Marcus Jordan
Dec 6th, 2006, 06:03 PM
Radek is the only thing that can stop her from finishing the year in the top3.

jazzfuzion
Dec 6th, 2006, 07:23 PM
i just see her remaining at the lower rungs of the top ten.

TeamUSA#1
Dec 6th, 2006, 07:48 PM
I gotta laugh at those who think she will barely hold on to top 10.

She did not play for 3 years on the pro tour, and came back in 11 months reached Top 7.

If we still had quality points, she was the #5 player in the world.

I think she is bound for Top 5 for sure, and with her renewed desire to play and to get another Slam, she could make top 3 again.

Ryan
Dec 7th, 2006, 02:54 AM
Nah. She'll just get injured again if she's penetrating deeper into draws and playing gruelling three setters against the top eight on a regular basis. Her body won't take the rigour.

And what's all this about the YEC? She did indeed pick up her form and play well, from what I've seen of her matches. But she still lost 2 and won 1. And the match against Petrova, who many would argue is also no great danger to the top four players, was close. Mauresmo was tired and rusty, as we saw in her first match, and Henin was still playing her way back to form, having not competed since the U.S Open.




:yawn: You're a tool. Many would argue Petrova isn't a great danger to the top 4 players? You really don't know anything about tennis.

MikeJones
Dec 7th, 2006, 03:06 AM
I hope to think shell be in top 5

spencercarlos
Dec 7th, 2006, 03:17 AM
Nah. She'll just get injured again if she's penetrating deeper into draws and playing gruelling three setters against the top eight on a regular basis. Her body won't take the rigour.

And what's all this about the YEC? She did indeed pick up her form and play well, from what I've seen of her matches. But she still lost 2 and won 1. And the match against Petrova, who many would argue is also no great danger to the top four players, was close. Mauresmo was tired and rusty, as we saw in her first match, and Henin was still playing her way back to form, having not competed since the U.S Open.
Find another tournament or excuse to bash Martina but really the YEC makes you look bad :rolleyes:
Hingis played in a group where Petrova was in coming from a very good fall with RU or W in three straight events and the two finalists for the YEC. Like it or not that was the toughest group to be part of and she challenged all three players, beat one and took the other two to three sets, quite an acomplishment from a Hingis who was losing in straight sets to Razanno at the Usopen, proving a lot of people, like you, wrong and expected her to be trashed every match.

As for the thread i don´t think Hingis will get that far because that would mean she will have to play a lot of tournaments and get deep in most of them, which is very unlikely, i don´t see her putting another 2000 like performance, but i hope she can get another great run at a slam event hopefully.

saki
Dec 7th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Martina can't just play like she did at the YEC, she has to play better. That was the best tennis we've seen from her in 2006 and the result was that she only won one out of three matches. To be top 3 and challenging for GSs, the question has to be: can she do better than that in 2007?

Ryan
Dec 7th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Martina can't just play like she did at the YEC, she has to play better. That was the best tennis we've seen from her in 2006 and the result was that she only won one out of three matches. To be top 3 and challenging for GSs, the question has to be: can she do better than that in 2007?



I agree with you - kind of. I don't think it was the BEST tennis we've seen from her in 2006, except the Petrova match and maybe parts of the Mauresmo match. Against Justine there were flashes of brilliance, but not enough. Tokyo was some of the best tennis she's played all year - same with Rome. However, against the top players, I agree for the most part that the YEC was her peak. Can she do better? Starting on rebound ace, I have to give a resounding YES.

MatchpointPRT
Dec 7th, 2006, 03:55 PM
I think Martina can be in the top 3 in the next year, because if we are talking about being a regular player, we have to admit that the regular player in the top 10 is Martina and not Kuznetsova or Petrova or Dementieva. So i don´t think this 3 will be difficult for Martina to pass in the ranking. Against Amelie, Justine, Sharapova... well.. Amelie will start to lose points because she has a lot to defend particularly in grand slams, JHH the same thing,and Sharapova also has to defend some good results and also the us open, on the other hand Martina had bad results in the Grand slams, so i think she will win points in the grand slams and not lose... about her serve, for the people who say that is serve improvement is minimum, it´s not true. We just have to go back to the australian open when she lost the final to Capriati in 3 sets and her best serve during the tournament was around 164kph and in this year in the start of her comeback she was serving at more than 170 kph many times and reaching number 7 after being away 3 years starting with no ranking made a lot of people shut up their mouths.

J.Ferrer
Dec 7th, 2006, 04:58 PM
She'll be top 10.

martinahfan
Dec 7th, 2006, 05:13 PM
martina hingis november 2007 2 eme mondiale !

Marcus Jordan
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:57 AM
Martina has hardly any points to defend in the grand slams next year. So it would be very easy for her to reach the top 1-5.

alfajeffster
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:37 AM
I think the first half of the year could be very good to her, if she continues improving and taking those small steps. The slow Rebound Ace and Terre Battue surfaces more than suit her chess-match style of out-thinking bigger hitters, and she could very well rack up enough points to get into the top three before Wimbledon, and I wouldn't be surprised if she broke through at one of the first two majors. At this point, I'd say Melbourne is her best shot, just because (like Monica Seles, ironically) it's her best surface, and she knows how to use it to her advantage.

1star
Dec 13th, 2006, 03:33 PM
i cannot imagine she could end up the year ranked top10 last year at this time.
Looks like she can play well in the beginning of the year bcz slow rebound and clay surfices suit her games.
As top seed, she wont have to meet the top players in early rounds. I think she can be in top 5 after FO.

pooh14
Dec 13th, 2006, 03:42 PM
if she performs well in AO and RG, she has a really high chance of top5, and top3 depends on how she performs in the 2nd half of the season.

She would have finish top5 this year if not for the debacle in Wimbledon and US Open. However in the 2nd part, she was clearly out of energy, although she didn't play much. Which is why she herself went for a checkup and realize lack of iron.

In YEC, we could see a clear improvement in stamina. She played 3 consecutive 3 setters against top5 players...first 2 very late night matches. That is really considered good in fitness level.

hablo
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:02 PM
Well I guess anything is possible since momo, juju, sharpie, kimmie, petrova, etc, have tons of pts to defend ! :lol:
But my guess is NO.

hablo
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:06 PM
Nah. She'll just get injured again if she's penetrating deeper into draws and playing gruelling three setters against the top eight on a regular basis. Her body won't take the rigour.

And what's all this about the YEC? She did indeed pick up her form and play well, from what I've seen of her matches. But she still lost 2 and won 1. And the match against Petrova, who many would argue is also no great danger to the top four players, was close. Mauresmo was tired and rusty, as we saw in her first match, and Henin was still playing her way back to form, having not competed since the U.S Open.

True.

Steffica Greles
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:44 PM
:yawn: You're a tool. Many would argue Petrova isn't a great danger to the top 4 players? You really don't know anything about tennis.

My top four players are Henin, Mauresmo, Clijsters and Sharapova. We'll leave the Williamses out because they're both in limbo. Clijsters, despite her problems, is still a better player than 4th-ranked Kuznetsova.

Petrova, for all her ability, has made no impression on Clijsters or Sharapova. She defeated Henin in Berlin, and Mauresmo three times, but none of those victories convinced me personally that either of them were playing at their highest levels.

And then you look at the slams and Nadia has never really made any great impression on any of the top 4 players. She was unlucky in Paris and at Wimbledon this year, but she's 24 now - there's been plenty of chances before for her to make her mark.

Many people have made such analyses of Petrova on this board.

Steffica Greles
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:47 PM
Find another tournament or excuse to bash Martina but really the YEC makes you look bad :rolleyes:
Hingis played in a group where Petrova was in coming from a very good fall with RU or W in three straight events and the two finalists for the YEC. Like it or not that was the toughest group to be part of and she challenged all three players, beat one and took the other two to three sets, quite an acomplishment from a Hingis who was losing in straight sets to Razanno at the Usopen, proving a lot of people, like you, wrong and expected her to be trashed every match.

As for the thread i don´t think Hingis will get that far because that would mean she will have to play a lot of tournaments and get deep in most of them, which is very unlikely, i don´t see her putting another 2000 like performance, but i hope she can get another great run at a slam event hopefully.

If defeating a 6th ranked Petrova in 3 close sets and losing the other two matches to rusty or fatigued players is the extent of your hopes for Martina, I would suggest you're not as deluded as I once thought.

You're just an actor.

thiaela
Dec 13th, 2006, 04:58 PM
Could be.

squig2k
Dec 13th, 2006, 06:54 PM
No! Maybe peak at no.5

quaeki
Dec 13th, 2006, 07:59 PM
I do hope so! :hearts:

hingisGOAT
Dec 13th, 2006, 10:50 PM
whether or not hingis makes it into the top 3, one thing is for sure: steffica greles will be following every move she makes :hearts:

Steffica Greles
Dec 13th, 2006, 10:54 PM
whether or not hingis makes it into the top 3, one thing is for sure: steffica greles will be following every move she makes :hearts:

Well, I've followed women's tennis for, I imagine, a lot longer than you, so I'm sure that, for once, you're right. Bless you :)

PLP
Dec 13th, 2006, 11:07 PM
I agree with you - kind of. I don't think it was the BEST tennis we've seen from her in 2006, except the Petrova match and maybe parts of the Mauresmo match. Against Justine there were flashes of brilliance, but not enough. Tokyo was some of the best tennis she's played all year - same with Rome. However, against the top players, I agree for the most part that the YEC was her peak. Can she do better? Starting on rebound ace, I have to give a resounding YES.

If she had a day to recover before the match with Momo the outcome of that match could have been different. She didn't play that well against JuJu but still, it was enough to push her. I definitely see her getting into the top 4 or 5 next year, top 3 would be awesome! :drool: