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CoryAnnAvants#1
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:14 PM
I like Leanne and all, but it'd be a monumental effort on her part to ever make the main draw of Wimbledon, let alone win it.:help:

New Zealander Shows Her Grit

By Jerry Magee
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
December 2, 2006

In that part of the world, the tennis players are in Australia. In New Zealand, there are sheep.

Leanne Baker of Hamilton, New Zealand, is out to change this. She can, according to Christi Turdo, the coach who shaped Baker's game and Baker herself. Said Turdo yesterday after her charge had won her way into the semifinals of the Santaluz Open: “I think Leanne has the potential to win Wimbledon.”



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A grandiose statement. Baker is 25. In women's tennis, players who haven't made it at 25 generally aren't going to make it. One could even say that if they haven't made it at 17, they aren't going to make it.
“Depends on the woman,” Turdo argued.

“The statistics say that, but it doesn't mean it's right. It depends on the desire of the person playing.”

Baker would seem to have the preferred desire. Since she and Turdo created an alliance in April, Baker has lost 35 pounds through proper diet and working out, by Turdo's account, seven hours a day. She clearly is a highly accomplished athlete, which the left-hander demonstrated by getting past Lioudmila Skavronskaia of Russia 5-7, 6-0, 7-5 to set up a match against Rossana De Los Rios of Paraguay today in the USTA's $50,000 Pro Circuit event at the Santaluz Club.

De Los Rios flowed to a 4-6, 6-2, 6-0 quarterfinals victory over Sabine Klaschka of Germany and is to oppose Baker today at 10 a.m.

In the other semifinal to follow, No. 1 seed Aleksandra Wozniak of Canada is to engage Ivana Abramovic of Croatia.

Wozniak had to resist a match point against her in the second set.

She advanced when Ekaterina Afinogenova, a 19-year-old from Russia, was unable to continue because of a tender hamstring muscle, Wozniak winning 4-6, 7-5, 3-0, ret. Abramovic stopped Marie-Eve Pelletier of Canada 5-7, 6-3, 6-3.

trivfun
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:22 PM
In Wimbledon, there is a good chance to win for an underseed because the quality of women's tennis is so good. The top players have to compete round to round. This could result in a lot of upsets. Also, the transition from clay to grass is very difficult for a lot of players particularly the baseliners. Therefore, Leanne may have substance to what she has to say.

iPatty
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:24 PM
What is it with these Aussie/Kiwi wannabies thinking they can win Wimbledon.

First Stosur, now this girl, who I've never even heard of. :help:

James
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:27 PM
What is it with these Aussie/Kiwi wannabies thinking they can win Wimbledon.

First Stosur, now this girl, who I've never even heard of. :help:

It was a quote from her coach, not from Leanne herself.

The fact you have not heard from her, says more about you than about Leanne by the way. ;) :p

Dexter
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:29 PM
Ok.

Good luck in getting into Wimbledon MD. :)

CoryAnnAvants#1
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:31 PM
In Wimbledon, there is a good chance to win for an underseed because the quality of women's tennis is so good. The top players have to compete round to round. This could result in a lot of upsets. Also, the transition from clay to grass is very difficult for a lot of players particularly the baseliners. Therefore, Leanne may have substance to what she has to say.

An underseed is somebody like an Amy Frazier or Ai Sugiyama. Someone who has beaten big names before and produced solid results on grass, yet for two weeks they pull something out of their ass and play the tennis of their life.

Leanne has never cracked the worlds top 250 and never beaten a top 100 player. Presumably she'd have to do that seven times in a row to win Wimbledon. It's not going to happen. Ever.

That being said, she's made big strides and I hope she continues in that direction. But Wimbledon? Absolutely not. I'd settle for a 25K:p

ioni
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:34 PM
maybe ,who knows only the time will tell :)

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:34 PM
They could use her name Leanne Baker.

She wins a tennis tournament at a place called "Wimbledon," then makes a movie out of it.

Oops! Sorry, hasn't that already been done before?

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:35 PM
What is it with these Aussie/Kiwi wannabies thinking they can win Wimbledon.

First Stosur, now this girl, who I've never even heard of. :help:

Well, I don't judge them for having goals, but you have to have a little more game than that to do well at Wimbledon.

Slumpsova
Dec 3rd, 2006, 05:28 PM
yeah 10K Wimbledon.

brunof
Dec 3rd, 2006, 05:30 PM
An underseed is somebody like an Amy Frazier or Ai Sugiyama. Someone who has beaten big names before and produced solid results on grass, yet for two weeks they pull something out of their ass and play the tennis of their life.

Leanne has never cracked the worlds top 250 and never beaten a top 100 player. Presumably she'd have to do that seven times in a row to win Wimbledon. It's not going to happen. Ever.

That being said, she's made big strides and I hope she continues in that direction. But Wimbledon? Absolutely not. I'd settle for a 25K:p

They were playing Topspin tennis at the time of the interview. And Leanne did win Wimbledon... with Maria Sharapova. :rolleyes:

But credit to Leanne...She wen't 12-18 in 2004...28-16 in 2005, and 41-13 in 2006. The year of 2007 looks good for her in my opinion. She's obviously committed herself, and staying injury free means she'll be able to build all year.

And by the way, Leanne did beat Miriam Oremans way back in 1999 who was ranked 57 at the time. ;)

For me players like Leanne, Grandin, Amamurandova, Rao, etc. stands in my little group of players I'd love to see do well, against people's expectations.

iPatty
Dec 3rd, 2006, 06:42 PM
Well, I don't judge them for having goals, but you have to have a little more game than that to do well at Wimbledon.

I agree. It's nice to have goals, but even better to make them realistic.

LefandePatty
Dec 3rd, 2006, 07:19 PM
:spit:

What's next ?

iPatty
Dec 3rd, 2006, 07:21 PM
:spit:

What's next ?

I can see it now.

Hoffman Says Schnyder Will Win Wimbledon

Garvic
Dec 3rd, 2006, 07:24 PM
agree, she has little hope of reacing the qualies of a gs, let alone winning!

Boss monkey
Dec 3rd, 2006, 08:22 PM
Leanne has never cracked the worlds top 250 and never beaten a top 100 player. Presumably she'd have to do that seven times in a row to win Wimbledon. It's not going to happen. Ever.
Baker did beat Miriam Oremans who was ranked 57 at the time 6-3 6-4

kittyking
Dec 3rd, 2006, 10:37 PM
Ok.

Good luck in getting into Wimbledon MD. :)

Im a kiwi supporter - but she'll need to improve her game alot just to get into the Wimbledon Qualies...:tape:

kittyking
Dec 3rd, 2006, 10:40 PM
As I have said in my Marina, Sacha, Ellen cheering thread in ASB Classic section -

In 1999 Leanne had a career high ranking of 273.......with her best ever singles result this week she moves upto 273 again. Why has it taken Leanne 7 long years of recieving countless amounts of wildcards into the ASB Classic for her to get into the top 300 again! Leanne will likely never break the top 200 mark, and 250 may even be out of her reach. On the other hand Marina, Sacha, Ellen are playing the best tennis of their life and all three of them are either top 200 already or are finishing off their juniors years and will likely reach this mark next year - so why does Leanne think she deserves a wildcard into the main draw......

LefandePatty
Dec 3rd, 2006, 10:53 PM
I can see it now.

Hoffman Says Schnyder Will Win Wimbledon

Go Patty! :inlove:

Show us that grass isn't only for cows!

brunof
Dec 4th, 2006, 01:19 AM
As I have said in my Marina, Sacha, Ellen cheering thread in ASB Classic section -

In 1999 Leanne had a career high ranking of 273.......with her best ever singles result this week she moves upto 273 again. Why has it taken Leanne 7 long years of recieving countless amounts of wildcards into the ASB Classic for her to get into the top 300 again! Leanne will likely never break the top 200 mark, and 250 may even be out of her reach. On the other hand Marina, Sacha, Ellen are playing the best tennis of their life and all three of them are either top 200 already or are finishing off their juniors years and will likely reach this mark next year - so why does Leanne think she deserves a wildcard into the main draw......

I really have no doubts that Leanne can get herself into the top 250 sometime even early in 2007. Even if she were to go down to the 25K mark, that's 25 points if you win, and that's quite a few points all things considered. The difference between her current new ranking of 273 and 250 is around 14 points, which is a lot, but very doable. If she stays injury free, she can build on the months she missed last year.

And funny thing is, Leanne didn't even play the ASB last year, so you can't say her ranking is due to this event.

Martian Stacey
Dec 4th, 2006, 01:29 AM
How about getting into the MD first :tape:

Drake1980
Dec 4th, 2006, 01:56 AM
yeah 10K Wimbledon.

OMG:lol: All the best to Leanne though seriously!

kittyking
Dec 4th, 2006, 02:10 AM
I really have no doubts that Leanne can get herself into the top 250 sometime even early in 2007. Even if she were to go down to the 25K mark, that's 25 points if you win, and that's quite a few points all things considered. The difference between her current new ranking of 273 and 250 is around 14 points, which is a lot, but very doable. If she stays injury free, she can build on the months she missed last year.

And funny thing is, Leanne didn't even play the ASB last year, so you can't say her ranking is due to this event.

For the most part of Leannes career shes been playing 10k events, i'll try and find where she said this but she has been quoted as saying 'Winning 2 New Zealand satellite events in a row is by far the best thing that I could have hoped for in my career'

Leanne cant win 25k events

kittyking
Dec 4th, 2006, 02:14 AM
yeah 10K Wimbledon.

Im not even sure if could win that (someone like Shona Lee could beat her there :lol: )

aussie_fan
Dec 4th, 2006, 02:45 AM
ok, i have more chance of winning wimbledon than Leanne Baker. :tape:

kittyking
Dec 4th, 2006, 03:37 AM
ok, i have more chance of winning wimbledon than Leanne Baker. :tape:

The sad thing is that I think you may be right there :p

Jakeev
Dec 5th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Perhaps saying Leanne has the potential to win WImbledon is farfetched, but I would say don't count her out from at least becoming a late bloomer and having some at least bigger success in tennis.

It sounds like she is making the strides to become a better player. I have never seen her play so I can't judge.

And considering the tons of players that have found sudden success at a later age, I would not be surprised if Leanne actually did well in some lower Tier events if she keeps improving.

I agree with the new coach, it depends on the woman.

die_wahrheit
Dec 5th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Good to know that they aim a Wimbledon title.
Young girls need the right goals.
It's not Ok to be satisfied with just only a simple Grand Slam title.

Drake1980
Dec 5th, 2006, 10:53 AM
ok, i have more chance of winning wimbledon than Leanne Baker. :tape:

:lol: :devil:

martin white
Dec 5th, 2006, 12:54 PM
agree, she has little hope of reacing the qualies of a gs, let alone winning!

leanne is ranked #273 now,if she continues her form from this year,especially in the tougher us 50k tournie's, she has every chance to make a gs qualie event! go leanne! stick it up them! have a great 2007!:)

CrossCourt~Rally
Dec 5th, 2006, 12:55 PM
Well..she has a better chance of winning wilmbledon then Cory Ann Avants has of becoming #1 :lol: ;)

AUSBOY
Dec 5th, 2006, 02:33 PM
Leanne doesnt have many points to defend first half of the year, so there is no reason why she cant crack the top 200 if she can keep the form up

martin white
Dec 5th, 2006, 02:43 PM
Leanne doesnt have many points to defend first half of the year, so there is no reason why she cant crack the top 200 if she can keep the form up

well said ausboy! cant agree with you more! go for it leanne, prove all those critics wrong!:p

switz
Dec 5th, 2006, 10:19 PM
What is it with these Aussie/Kiwi wannabies thinking they can win Wimbledon.

First Stosur, now this girl, who I've never even heard of. :help:

yes actually neither Stosur or Baker said they think they can win Wimbledon. John Alexander said it about Stosur and if you read the article it was clearly Baker's coach who said it about her. Yes both are rather stupid statements but criticising the girls for something they didn't even say seems equally dumb.

Stosur isn't exactly a wannabe either considering she's the number 1 doubles player in the world and player who is making vast strides in singles with a game that has a lot of potential.

I don't know much about Baker but she seems to be having greatly improved results this year which is a real credit to her considering she battled for so long.

kittyking
Dec 5th, 2006, 11:33 PM
Im not sure if this is true but a friend told me that he could bet on which players make it into a grandslam main draw this year. Leanne Bakers odds are 1:6700 compared with Marina Erakovic 1:2

Jem
Dec 6th, 2006, 12:46 AM
As I have said in my Marina, Sacha, Ellen cheering thread in ASB Classic section -

In 1999 Leanne had a career high ranking of 273.......with her best ever singles result this week she moves upto 273 again. Why has it taken Leanne 7 long years of recieving countless amounts of wildcards into the ASB Classic for her to get into the top 300 again! Leanne will likely never break the top 200 mark, and 250 may even be out of her reach. On the other hand Marina, Sacha, Ellen are playing the best tennis of their life and all three of them are either top 200 already or are finishing off their juniors years and will likely reach this mark next year - so why does Leanne think she deserves a wildcard into the main draw......


First, I'm not disputing anything you say. I chose to reply to your comment only because it struck me as capturing the majority of sentiment regarding Leanne in this thread.

Second, I'm fairly certain Baker will never win Wimbledon. But I do wonder how many people on this board have seen her play. When she was a junior, I thought she might have potential based on her results. But her inconsistency in results was just awful. Several years ago, I saw Leanne play a challenger in the Atlanta area. What I saw was someone with enormous ball striking capability, but absolutely no mental tenacity. She had some of the most beautiful strokes among the players, but they were big shots and just as apt to hit the fence as land in the court. Moreover, she was sloppy in her physical conditioning, extremely overweight and even more immature.

Fast forward to the Lawrenceville challenger a few weeks ago. I was stunned by Baker's appearance. She has got herself into pretty good shape. Her strokes are beautiful, and she was playing with much more consistency. She oozed possibility, in fact on sheer talent alone, she seemed to have the most game. Still, talent can be overrated. Ultimately, it's about keeping the ball in play, and I've learned through the years that the prettiest, smoothest strokes don't always translate into that kind of game.

Baker strikes me as a Betty Stove type player, who came into her own later in her career. She may never have Betty's results (in fact, I'm sure not), but I could certainly see her gaining a newfound maturity that would produce her best results as an older, more experienced player. I believe very much that she could track the top 100 in doubles and win some grand slam matches there (though not titles).

I like it when players finally figure out what kind of opportunity they have and truly dedicate themselves to being the best they can be. It will be interested to see if Baker can stay on track, remain in shape and injury free and get the most of her potential -- whatever that may be.

Brett.
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:02 AM
yeah 10K Wimbledon.

Lmao!

kittyking
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:14 AM
Leanne Baker HAS all the shots and can definately intimidate players, but she doesnt understand which shots should be played at the correct time. I could name players ranked 800-1000 which would and do play smarter shots. Leanne understands the doubles game reasonably well, but not singles (and in this day and age Singles is far more important than doubles)

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 6th, 2006, 01:55 AM
If she played with Martina Hingis in doubles at Wimbledon, then yes there is potential for Leanne Baker to win a title at Wimbledon.
Other than that, the odds of Leanne winning any title at a slam is none.

switz
Dec 6th, 2006, 02:24 AM
Im not sure if this is true but a friend told me that he could bet on which players make it into a grandslam main draw this year. Leanne Bakers odds are 1:6700 compared with Marina Erakovic 1:2

even in the unlikely event that someone was willing to take bets on that i'm certain there's nobody dumb enough to give odds like that. if someone bet 10 dollars they would have to pay out 67 000 back.

kittyking
Dec 6th, 2006, 03:03 AM
If she played with Martina Hingis in doubles at Wimbledon, then yes there is potential for Leanne Baker to win a title at Wimbledon.
Other than that, the odds of Leanne winning any title at a slam is none.

Leanne will never be a top 100 player, most likely never top 200 - thats the facts (even Richard the tournament director of ASB has admitted this 'weve been giving her wildcards for 8 or 9 years now')

kittyking
Dec 6th, 2006, 03:04 AM
even in the unlikely event that someone was willing to take bets on that i'm certain there's nobody dumb enough to give odds like that. if someone bet 10 dollars they would have to pay out 67 000 back.

No they wouldnt, Leanne hasnt and never will qualify for a main draw......

Sunny_Boy
Dec 6th, 2006, 06:19 AM
Ok Ok so everyone knows Leanne won't win Wimbledon but who cares!
Half the players in the top 10 haven't even won Wimbly and probably never will.
Leanne didn't make the comments so she doesn't deserve this negative reaction.
Leanne deserves credit, a player of her age could have easily given away the sport but she hasn't, instead she has kept training and is getting rewarded with the best results of her career.
Congrats Leanne!

kittyking
Dec 6th, 2006, 06:42 AM
Ok Ok so everyone knows Leanne won't win Wimbledon but who cares!
Half the players in the top 10 haven't even won Wimbly and probably never will.
Leanne didn't make the comments so she doesn't deserve this negative reaction.
Leanne deserves credit, a player of her age could have easily given away the sport but she hasn't, instead she has kept training and is getting rewarded with the best results of her career.
Congrats Leanne!

I think reaching a career high 273 was the highlight of her career (first happenned in 1999) :p

kittyking
Dec 6th, 2006, 08:08 AM
Posted by Tripp: You know, you were really, really annoying through the hole thread

:lol:

willrock
Dec 6th, 2006, 08:36 AM
True