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LH2HBH
Dec 1st, 2006, 06:48 PM
TENNIS CANADA: Everyone's opinion is needed.
Especially Canadians!

What is your impression of Canadian Tennis? Do you know or care about Stephanie Dubois or Aleksandra Wozniak?

Has any Canadian Tennis player [besides Daniel Nestor ;)] done anything great in your lifetime that you can remember?

Has anyone heard that Tennis Canada is starting a tennis academy hoping to source out the pre-teen talent and produce more top players by hiring elite coaches?

P_Fer
Dec 1st, 2006, 07:12 PM
I wish Canada would become more of a tennis powerhouse, but I think there are some players who have potential to have good careers

pierce0415
Dec 1st, 2006, 07:14 PM
to be honest, the only achievements I know are that they advanced into the World Group II of Fed Cup and that Marie-Eve beat Na Li @ Rogers Cup last year

Darop.
Dec 1st, 2006, 08:33 PM
Achievements uhm...

A great achievement for Tennis Canada was having Heidi play under it's flag :o

Ellery
Dec 1st, 2006, 08:34 PM
Other than for Daniel :worship: , I really don't have too much faith in Canadian tennis.

LindsayRulz
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:14 PM
Achievements uhm...

A great achievement for Tennis Canada was having Heidi play under it's flag :o

:rolleyes: She is ranked 415

thomas.chung
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:22 PM
Much of it if I think due to the lack of funding. Desipte great effort (like their rexall centre), ultimately it comes down to who has more money. Take LTA and their recent announcement for example, much of the money was poured down into hiring top notch coach. Also, I think it is the marketing, the advertisements that they put on TSN just sucked. Seriously, who in the world knows who is Frank Dancevic (hell I can't even spell his name right, i think) is, and Daniel won't be around the circuit for long I think. So they have to seriously do something other than that. Furthermore, Canada, being such a large country is hard to gather and train talent. Just the living cost is sky high and hard to handle for Tennis Canada who is no USTA, LTA or Russian or French tennis feds. So I think Tennis Canada should focus on setting up smaller local training posts across Canada and focus on discovering and training new talents rather than centralize the training in Ontario.

Barrie_Dude
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:19 PM
TENNIS CANADA: Everyone's opinion is needed.
Especially Canadians!

What is your impression of Canadian Tennis? Do you know or care about Stephanie Dubois or Aleksandra Wozniak?

Has any Canadian Tennis player [besides Daniel Nestor ;)] done anything great in your lifetime that you can remember?

Has anyone heard that Tennis Canada is starting a tennis academy hoping to source out the pre-teen talent and produce more top players by hiring elite coaches?
Carling Bassett!


But tennis is Canada is a very low priority and the junior program here needs an awful lot of work

LH2HBH
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:22 PM
During the US Open series they announced an elite tennis academy and hired 2 world class coaches. Anyone here anything more about this?

Ryan
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:26 PM
I closely follow our best players, Aleks, Steph, Frank etc. and I think they have potential to be top 50 players eventually. I know a lot about Carling and Helen, so it's not like we've never had good players. I think a lot of it has to due with lack of funding that stems from no real desire for lots of young Canucks to play professional tennis.

:inlove:
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:28 PM
Aleks is very talented and is making waves in the ITF 50Ks. ;) :)
I know a lot of Canadians, but am not a fan of many. :shrug:
I like Cretu, Dubois & El Tabakh. :D
I can't see any current Canadians being a major threat for Tier IIs-Grand Slams. :shrug:

matthieu_tennis
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:29 PM
the hockey is hiding a little bit tennis lol :)
I think in the future we will have some nice players :)
Wozniak is now top 100 following by Steph dubois :)
They have to develop players in the early stage of their life :)

LH2HBH
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:31 PM
I closely follow our best players, Aleks, Steph, Frank etc. and I think they have potential to be top 50 players eventually. I know a lot about Carling and Helen, so it's not like we've never had good players. I think a lot of it has to due with lack of funding that stems from no real desire for lots of young Canucks to play professional tennis.

I really enjoy Stephanie and Aleks and would love to see them win more 50K's and Tier IV's. On the documentary I saw, they were speaking like it's time to look at our most talented 10-12 year olds as apparantly that is the time that they need to see a world class coach (like Lansdorp or Bollieterri) to groove their strokes, otherwise it's too late.

I wanted them to talk about improving Stephanie and Aleks but basically I think they were saying it's too late for them and we need to look at the future! :shrug:

TS
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:35 PM
A question for the Canadians - who is considered the better prospect in your country out of Aleks Wozniak and Stephanie Dubois?

MLF
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:37 PM
I don't think there are any players of the calibre of Darling Carling Bassett or Hurricane Helen Kelesi on the horizon ( why did all '80s players have nicknames ? ) Carling was the only Canadian to go top 10 of course whilst Helen made the top 20. Wozniak can probably go a bit higher than she is currently in the rankings. Dubois will find it harder. And nobody in Canadian tennis will ever surpass Carling in the big hair stakes :

http://www.celeblegs.net/af/bassettcarling01.jpg

Ryan
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:39 PM
I really enjoy Stephanie and Aleks and would love to see them win more 50K's and Tier IV's. On the documentary I saw, they were speaking like it's time to look at our most talented 10-12 year olds as apparantly that is the time that they need to see a world class coach (like Lansdorp or Bollieterri) to groove their strokes, otherwise it's too late.

I wanted them to talk about improving Stephanie and Aleks but basically I think they were saying it's too late for them and we need to look at the future! :shrug:



Really? :eek: That's partially true about groundies, because I don't think too many players adapt their style of play after they get on tour. However, having top flight coaches for Aleks and Steph (who are only what, 19?) would still be a great thing for the mental side of tennis - keeping their focus, building confidence - and it can never hurt for them to get in better shape and learn more efficient training routines.

Its all well and good to look at the future, but I guess I just don't pay that close attention to Canadian tennis to see if our future is that bright.

LH2HBH
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:41 PM
A question for the Canadians - who is considered the better prospect in your country out of Aleks Wozniak and Stephanie Dubois?

Personally I like Stephanie Dubois more but Aleks Wozniak is the girl of the moment.

gocanadago
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:43 PM
I think we presently have a very good talent in Aleksandra Wozniak, who won one 50K one 75K and made a QF in a TIER III. She presently is in a SF in a 50K. Aleks had big wins this year over Na Li at the beginning of the year, a win over Poutchkova(When she was 40th) and beat other top 100 like Ashley Harkleroad, Laura Granville more than once. Aleks now is in the top 100 and and she is on fire, she definitly presently is the best Canadian. Stephanie Dubois also won her last tournament of the year, a 50K in USA. She made 3rd round at Rogers Cup beating Garbin and Clijsters...Steph also qualified for her first GS at the US Open. Stephanie just need to keep working on her mental and on her game and the top 100 is very near for sure. Valérie Tetreault should play more tournament next year and should break top 200 and maybe 150. Val made some 25K finals thid year and presently is around 225. If Marie-Ève Pelletier, wouldn't have injured herself in 2004 she for sure would presently be in top 100. Marie-Ève was very near of it but had a very big injury to her ankle and then her foot now we don't really what to wait for her, this year was not very good, excepted her win over Na Li, Mara now is 25 years old, so the next year will be very important and has to be great so go Mara!:sad:

Ryan
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:45 PM
I've seen Dubois play MUCH more, and I really like her movement and on court personality. I think she needs to develop her serve more, and work on making her groundies a little more steady. I think the only time I saw Aleks play was against Sugiyama? in Toronto, and she looked rather unfit and erratic. That was two years ago though, and she's obviously improved a lot. I think she has more potential that Steph based on results only, but that's just a general opinion.

TS
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:49 PM
One thing Steph has in her favour, is superb fitness. Now here is a girl that is in super shape.

I think we need to mention Sharon Fichman in here as well. She's what, 15? She's had some decent results for her age and is already in the top 400 I think. With her defensive game, I don't see her being a world beater, but she can have a decent career.

drake3781
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:53 PM
Is Carling a common name in Canada? Is it just regular Canadian, or from a specific immigrant group? Is it in any way related to the Carling beer?

Vincey!
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:56 PM
One thing Steph has in her favour, is superb fitness. Now here is a girl that is in super shape.

I think we need to mention Sharon Fichman in here as well. She's what, 15? She's had some decent results for her age and is already in the top 400 I think. With her defensive game, I don't see her being a world beater, but she can have a decent career.

I'va seen Sharon played against Spears and she CAN attack and when she did it she was very impressive!

Martian Willow
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:00 AM
Has any Canadian Tennis player [besides Daniel Nestor ;)] done anything great in your lifetime that you can remember?

Yes, Greg Rusedski reached the US Open final.

LH2HBH
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:05 AM
Yes, Greg Rusedski reached the US Open final.

WE DO NOT CONSIDER HIM ONE OF US, I PROMISE YOU.

Martian Willow
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:08 AM
We do. :p

MLF
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:17 AM
Is Carling a common name in Canada? Is it just regular Canadian, or from a specific immigrant group? Is it in any way related to the Carling beer?

Carling Bassett's great-grandfather was a brewery executive, Carling beer is one of his company's beers. Her father was in charge of a broadcasting company. Put simply, Carling was worth millions before she hit a tennis ball.

auntie janie
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:28 AM
I'm not a Canadian, but I like to follow Canadian tennis; I don't know why. I follow Dancevic, Bester, and Polansky on the men's side, and Dubois, Tétreault, Wozzy, Shulaeva, and Fichman on the ladies side. Every now and again I even remember to check on the results of a couple Canadians who are playing college tennis in the US -- Beier Ko and Monika Dancevic. I'm also following young Pallivets in the Eddie Herr 14s this week; I'd never heard of her before but she seems to be pretty promising.

drake3781
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:37 AM
Carling Bassett's great-grandfather was a brewery executive, Carling beer is one of his company's beers. Her father was in charge of a broadcasting company. Put simply, Carling was worth millions before she hit a tennis ball.


Right, right, right!!! I remember reading about Carling Bassett in the thread we had about very wealthy players.

So not a lot of girls (or any others) are named Carling, then.

thomas.chung
Dec 2nd, 2006, 12:52 AM
Right, right, right!!! I remember reading about Carling Bassett in the thread we had about very wealthy players.

So not a lot of girls (or any others) are named Carling, then.

Yea. Although I do like the name Carling. I don't know much people with the name Carling.

back on topic, I think Tennis Canada will have to find some way to raise that money. I am seeing sponsorship from major sporting goods companies a good thing for Canadian tennis players/federation. Similar to how the Chinese team is sponsored by Nike and how Russia is sponsored by Yonex. The advantage to this model is that players don't have to worry about equipment as much as they move up in the ranking. Second is obvious, we need more money.

I am not seeing the Canadian gov't doing anything to this "industry" anytime soon, despite all the surplus. Unlike a lot of countries, where tennis is almost a country sanctioned sport (like China), Canada doesn't seem so active in sanctioning summer sports (like swimming, tennis, etc).

AJZ.
Dec 2nd, 2006, 01:24 AM
Sebastien Lareau is the other Canadian I remember: Olympic Gold with Nestor in Sydney 2000!

I think Aleks is our biggest hope, I don't like Stephanie's play... But she's beaten a player or two, so I can't really complain!

WhatTheDeuce
Dec 2nd, 2006, 07:34 AM
http://www.celeblegs.net/af/bassettcarling01.jpg
Carling :inlove: :inlove: :inlove:

drake3781
Dec 2nd, 2006, 07:54 AM
^^ Didn't Demi Moore look just like that in some movie from the '80's?? I can't remember which one.

*JR*
Dec 2nd, 2006, 07:55 PM
Every now and again I even remember to check on the results of a couple Canadians who are playing college tennis in the US -- Beier Ko and Monika Dancevic.
I'm amazed that any other non-Canuck here ever heard of Monika. :eek: And you could also mention Melanie Gloria (who's a lot better, BTW) ;) from Kuh-beck, who plays for Fresno State in Kal-eee-forn-ya.

Drake1980
Dec 2nd, 2006, 07:58 PM
Of course i care about Steph and aleks and the rest of our players. I think tennis is on the rise for sure here in Canada!

¤CharlDa¤
Dec 2nd, 2006, 10:18 PM
I don't have time to get in that conversation right now, but I totally will :lol: And I'm inviting Randy! :p

¤CharlDa¤
Dec 2nd, 2006, 10:21 PM
I posted this in August in the *analyse your country's situation* thread!

Well here is Canada's situation :D

Right now:

Stephanie Dubois: I have to start with my girl ;) Stephanie right now is ranked around the 150 spot, she went as high as number 121 last year. She has very good wins, including against Peschke, Jackson, Granville, Pratt, Safarova. She performs really well on faster surfaces, especially hard and indoors. She is still young at 19, a lot of years in front of her. Her main weakness lies in her emotivity, she is very expressive on court, and can get down really fast, but also pumped very fast. That's why she tends to perform really well against higher ranked players, when she finds motivation. She is working on staying concentrated when she faces lower ranked players. Her serve needs improvement, as well as her clay game. Should definitely enter top 100.

Aleksandra Wozniak: A great junior, up to number 3, she started her pro career last summer and she is already in the top 150. She and Steph are neck to neck ranking wise, which helps a lot for motivation. She already has few 25k titles, and some promising performances in some WTA qualifying in Grand Slams and Asia. Her biggest win is against Li this year. She believes in her ability to be great, which is a plus. She is a great clay player, will most likely have her best results there, though she can do well on faster surfaces too. She worked a lot on her first serve, real weapon. I think the key to her success and entry in top 100 will lie in her staying agressive. She has a nice power game, but against higher ranked player she tends to become defensive, which will become a liability. She could also become fitter physically, she recently had a virus and few injuries.

Marie-Eve Pelletier: Well our poor Mara is in a very bad spot right now. Injuries have been really tough on her since last year's Wimbledon and her ranking plummetted. At the same time last year she was 106 and now out of top 300. I really believe that she can come back in the top 200 and top 150. She has a nice game, solid body. She is a hard worker and though her game isn't the most powerful, she controls her attacks really well, she moves well. Her second serve and forehand can become shaky. She also tends to become weak mentally when it is close and that's what always prevented her from taking the next step. She always was very talented, but a few deceptions always prevented her from reaching that top 100. If someone deserves to get in the top 100, it is her!

Heydi El Tabakh: Well she is still young, had a solid junior career, but since she changed her nationality to Canada, the results have been so-so. She could enter top 200 if she manages to stay strong mentally and work hard. Her schedule is also limited, which doesn't help.

Valérie Tétreault: Val turned 18 in January and decided to stop playing junior tournaments. She always was one of the most committed players, working hard, and recently, everything is paying off. Her game clicked since she changed her coach, and she is amking her way up in the ranks. Already in the top 400, she reached two ITF finals this year already. Her game is really solid, she has a lot of control, very precise, and she is hitting harder everyday. She is working on her new attacking mindset and it is paying off already. Very mature, she enjoys being out of the spotlight and working hard, so don't be very surprised if she storms off a la Gloria one day in a big tourney.

Ekaterina Shulaeva: Very talented, she was a solid junior, each time she plays she has great wins, great results, but she rarely plays. She was sick last year, we heard she wanted to play a bigger schedule, but so far she didn't play much in 2006. She really could get some great performances on the tour, I hope she gets to play more.

The prospects!

Well in the past few years Canada really got a lot more junior players than it did before, but right now we are in the low part of the wave it seems.

Sharon Fichman: Very sweet girl, still so young but doing great on the junior scene. Already top 20 at like 14 years old, she won the Orange Bowl in younger categories before. She already won the two first Grand Slam Junior doubles competitions in 2006 with Nastya P. She used to rely a lil too much on her defensive play, i.e. mooballs ;), but she is really working on having a game more based on attack. She can hit incredibly hard when she wants to, but she tends to use the high balls as a security blanket. Still young, she will develop in a solid singles player, but could become a great doubles player for Canada in the future.

Jillian O'neill: Nice young player, very powerful, best serve we have seen in a while for a canadian, can get in the 170kph quite easily. She plays big, nice athletic body, but sadly sthing seems to be lacking. I'm pretty sure her game will click someday, but for the moment she seems to be stagnating. She recently started to play ITFs, which will surely help her, and her injured knee really prevented her from playing a lot of tourney in the past months. I personnally don't think her coaching situation is making her get to her potential, she has grown over her current coach, it'll be interesting to see her in the future.

Nina Pantic: Well Nina is a mystery ;) She didn't play much junior tournaments either internationally or nationally. She trains in Florida, and received a lot of WCs in big tournaments. Only 16 years old, she didn't do anything great until the past 2 weeks where she won a 10k and then reach the semis of another, playing what was said as inspired tennis. It will be fun to see where she gets to, and to see if she will come back to Canada to play few tourneys in the next years!

Other juniors:
Marie-Pier Huet is talented, nice forehand, big serve, nice volleys, she won a match in the Bell Challenge Qualies for the past two years and did well in a trip to Florida last fall, especially the Prince Cup.

Gabriella Dabrowski won Les Petits As in france, very prestigious tourney won by players like kournikova, Ferrero. She didn't play much tourneys either, she is quite young, I'm looking forward to seeing her play.

Taylor Ormond: She has been solid in the past, nice results in the fall season in the US, also a nice win in the Canadian champs few weeks ago. She could be headed for NCAA, who knows.

Gone/unknown/NCAA

Maureen Drake: Despite playing very few events in singles, she is still the third best canadian in the rankings. Nice dubs results in the past month, semis in wta events. She isn't the youngest (and might be the oldest :lol: ) so we don't really know for how long she will keep on playing. She is still as fiesty, and still can hold her game against a lot of players.

Mélanie Marois: Quebec City's pride got severely injured in the past two years, and is still nursing her ankle/foot, to which she had injury last fall. She is giving tennis lessons in her hometown, and is wondering if she'll be able to take another shot at the pro tour. She had a great hard hitting game, nice athletic abitlity, but she had some trouble with her lack of variety. She still could have cracked the top 200, and hopefully, still has it in her.

Diana Srebrovic: She joined the NCAA, where she played as a top player. She has a very impressive win/loss record there, was ranked in the top 5. She had solid results in her career, a very nice looking game, nice groundies, but she prefered to get a good education to struggling on tour. She still could have reached top 250 with few great results here and there!

Mélanie Gloria: Biggest story of 2004, when she came out of nowhere, qualified, and reached quarterfinals of Tier III Quebec City, beating Hantuchova en route in one of the biggest upsets of the year. After trying to follow the hype on the pro tour (which included a good final in Vancouver's 25k), Melanie decided to join the NCAA tour, in Fresno Uni, where she was the number one player of the team. She also had an impressive record in singles and doubles and earned multiple awards. She really values education, and everyone was sad to see her quit the pro tour. But most likely she will try coming back after her degree.

Katarina Zoricic: Also joined NCAA, she had a good junior career, but never anything outstanding in the past 4 years. She could develop a nice game though and if she ever comes back, could be surprising.

Tania Rice: I loved this girl, she had such an entertaining game. She performed really well in the big tournies (Montreal, Quebec City) but she seemed to struggle in juniors and lower tiers. She likes power, and I'll always remember than hard-hitting set she did to Mashona Washington in Quebec City. She never played much sadly, and I really hope to see her again.

Reckoner
Dec 3rd, 2006, 04:43 AM
You copied that from a previous thread

Still good info though.

¤CharlDa¤
Dec 3rd, 2006, 05:20 AM
"I posted this in August in the *analyse your country's situation* thread!"

I stated it before my post :confused:

thomas.chung
Dec 3rd, 2006, 09:19 AM
Good analysis! I hope that some day, Canadian tennis do spring into life.