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ZeroSOFInfinity
Nov 19th, 2006, 02:50 PM
Here are the statistics for 2006 season:-

WTA:-

Australian Open - Amelie Mauresmo def Justine Henin-Hardenne
French Open - Justine Henin-Hardenne def Svetlana Kuznetsova
Wimbledon - Amelie Mauresmo def Justine Henin-Hardenne
US Open - Maria Sharapova def Justine Henin-Hardenne
WTA Championships - Justine Henin-Hardenne def Amelie Mauresmo- Justine been in 5 finals, but only won two of them. The other three were won by Amelie (2) and Maria (1),
- The No.1 spot was up for grabs between 3 players until it was decided after the WTA Championships.
- Number of Singles titles won: Justine (6), Nadia and Sharapova (5), Amelie Mauresmo (4).
- Kim Clijsters managed to defend TWO of the events she won last year, while 4 other players managed to defend ONE each.
- ELEVEN players managed to win their 1st singles title and another ELEVEN managed to reach their 1st WTA-Singles final this year.
-TWENTY SEVEN countries have at least won a title or been runner-up.


Compare that with the ATP....


ATP:-

Australian Open - Roger Federer def Marcos Baghdatis
French Open - Rafeal Nadal def Roger Federer
Wimbledon - Roger Federer def Rafeal Nadal
US Open - Roger Federer def Andy Roddick
Year-End Championships - Roger Federer def James Blake- Roger Federer won 4 out of the 5 finals. Only Rafeal Nadal prevented him from winning the French Open.
- The No.1 spot was confirmed to be Federer's even before the US Open comes to a close.
- Number of Singles titles won: Roger Federer (12) :eek: , Rafeal Nadal, James Blake and Nikolai Davydenko (5) :help:.
- Roger Federer defended SIX of the singles titles won last year, and Rafeal Nadal defended FOUR of them.
- Only EIGHT players managed to win their 1st singles titles and there were NO PLAYERS who managed to reach their 1st ATP-Singles final this year.
- NINETEEN countries have at least won a title or been runner-up.


So, if you think the WTA lacks depth at this moment, think again :wavey:

pooh14
Nov 19th, 2006, 02:56 PM
i have to agree WTA is getting more interesting then ATP.

Other then Clay, we know most likely Federar will win the tournament.
And other then Nadal vs Federar and now Roddick vs Federar, i don't get excited with any match.

in wta, this year, we have justine and amelie great performance, not to forget maria performance either...then there is hingis amazing comeback....there is ivanovic, vandisova and jankovic exciting performance..

The Dawntreader
Nov 19th, 2006, 02:58 PM
The WTA lacks depth for me because Venus, Serena and Lindsay arent in those finals:bigcry:

Kart
Nov 19th, 2006, 03:07 PM
I'm not sure what those statistics have to do with depth on the tour.

Both tours have been dominated by a handful of players that have cruised through most of their matches with minimal resistance.

goldenlox
Nov 19th, 2006, 03:14 PM
There were 8 different players who won majors starting with Myskina.
But in 2006 only 4 players competed in every slam final, YEC and Miami finals.

Geoffry
Nov 19th, 2006, 03:25 PM
I didn't realise that so little players were able to defend at least one of their titles from last year? :eek:

Or does this happen every year? :scratch:

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 19th, 2006, 03:28 PM
but nothing beats watching Federer play.
whatever way you look at it......he's a genius.

Rexman
Nov 19th, 2006, 03:53 PM
The men have the big one guy that is dominating, and Nadal on clay. But you can't compare the depth of the rest of the the tour. The difference in terms of points from #4 to #20 is not much at all. It is not uncommon to see #23 defeat #8 on the men's tour. That's just not true of the women's tour.

sunset
Nov 19th, 2006, 03:58 PM
Tennis has never been more exciting or in better shape. The top 10 players in the world are in place and tennis fans all over the world are anticipating more of the same for 2007.
Everything is perfect!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

The Daviator
Nov 19th, 2006, 03:59 PM
The ATP blows right now :o

Viktymise
Nov 19th, 2006, 04:03 PM
Both tours are not as exciting this yr you just feel like the same ppl are going to win the slams, that wasnt the case last yr or in 04

Jenny.C.Fan
Nov 19th, 2006, 04:45 PM
The ATP blows right now :o

I would have to agree :o , its a shame.

Gooner
Nov 19th, 2006, 04:47 PM
I enjoy the WTA tour. Yeah there is about 6 players that seem to reach the later parts of the draw all the time, but on the mens tour if Federer and Nadal are in the tournament you can count of them being in the final almost 99% of the time. At least the women you have Justine, Maria, Kim, Kutznetsova, Martina, Amelie, Petrova and others vying for that final.

maddogz48
Nov 19th, 2006, 04:56 PM
- The No.1 spot was confirmed to be Federer's even before the US Open comes to a close.
- Number of Singles titles won: Roger Federer (12) :eek: , Rafeal Nadal (5) :help: , James Blake (4).
- Roger Federer defended SIX of the singles titles won last year, and Rafeal Nadal defended FOUR of them.





Blake actually won five titles this year.
(1) Sydney
(2) Tennis Channel Open
(3) RCA Championships
(4) Thailand Open
(5) Stockholm Open

vutt
Nov 19th, 2006, 05:50 PM
but nothing beats watching Federer play.
whatever way you look at it......he's a genius.

Indeed!
I would never trade Federer in action against depth.

LadyLil
Nov 19th, 2006, 06:15 PM
Blake actually won five titles this year.
(1) Sydney
(2) Tennis Channel Open
(3) RCA Championships
(4) Thailand Open
(5) Stockholm Open

None of these are majors. Rafa didn't defend a lot of what he won last year since he didn't go to South America and/or play any but the major clay events. He wanted to concentrate on hard courts so this year is part of his learning curve. As a Rafa fan I would've liked him to do better but there is always next year. I'm looking forward to seeing how he synthesizes what he's learned this year.

About the WTA, it's always the same eight women in the quarters, semi's and finals. I don't see how that is interest generating. The YEC drew crowds in Madrid but that is because the tennis tradition is strong in that country. TPTB want us to forget Zurich and it's abysmal attendance record.

Still I was going to say the quality of the ATP matches are better than those of the WTA but there was just this awful final between Blake and Roger so that argument goes right out the window.

Interesting analysis.

Rexman
Nov 19th, 2006, 08:09 PM
Davydenko won five titles this year too.

Poertschach
Sopot
New Haven
Moscow
Paris Masters

terjw
Nov 19th, 2006, 08:19 PM
The men have the big one guy that is dominating, and Nadal on clay. But you can't compare the depth of the rest of the the tour. The difference in terms of points from #4 to #20 is not much at all. It is not uncommon to see #23 defeat #8 on the men's tour. That's just not true of the women's tour.

I totally agree. You can't really compare the tours for depth. Nevertheless I do believe the WTA has more depth than it has ever had before. The very top players do still come through in the end. But there are more upsets. And there are definitely a lot more harder struggles. I don't think the top players relish Jankovic or Vaidisova in their half. The #10 or #12 ranked player would not have troubled the top players a few years ago.

harloo
Nov 19th, 2006, 08:21 PM
While I love women's tennis the depth has been lacking in competition for so long it's ridiculous. When fans have to pray they see one good competitive women's match during a slam then the WTA is in trouble.

Regardless of Federer's dominance it remains true that most top male players can be beaten on any given day. It doesn't matter if it's #100 on the other side of the net whereas the same cannot be said about the women.

DavyJone96431
Nov 19th, 2006, 09:22 PM
James Blake won 5 titles and reached 8 finals, holla

Derek.
Nov 19th, 2006, 09:28 PM
MTF, or ATP? ;)

:lol: :tape:

Viktymise
Nov 19th, 2006, 09:31 PM
While I love women's tennis the depth has been lacking in competition for so long it's ridiculous. When fans have to pray they see one good competitive women's match during a slam then the WTA is in trouble.

Regardless of Federer's dominance it remains true that most top male players can be beaten on any given day. It doesn't matter if it's #100 on the other side of the net whereas the same cannot be said about the women.

I think its better than it was a few yrs ago when really anyone outside the top 20 was never gonna beat one of the top players, these days there is alot more competition to get into the top 100 there are lots of talented players who arent even in the top 100 who can take out higher ranked players but its not the same as ATP yet

KoOlMaNsEaN
Nov 19th, 2006, 09:43 PM
Who says there isn't any depth in the tour?? It's way better than the atp where the only depth is with the clay court specialists.

goldenlox
Nov 19th, 2006, 10:09 PM
We just had a wide open situation in 2004 and 2005.
You never knew who would win a major.
Now it looks like a 3 person short list of probable AO winners.

Players like Nadia and Sveta are trying hard to expand that list.
And if Davenport and both Williams are there, it could get interesting.

But the top 3 are the players to beat now.

Andrew..
Nov 19th, 2006, 10:58 PM
The question on the WTA isn't about depth, it's about quality. And it's really lacking that now.

On the ATP, the quality is outstanding.

goldenlox
Nov 19th, 2006, 11:08 PM
The ATP is always going to be much higher quality.
Justine is playing as well as in 2003, if not better.
And she won 2 majors in 2003.

PatrickRyan
Nov 19th, 2006, 11:09 PM
both atp and wta are lacking depth

goldenlox
Nov 19th, 2006, 11:12 PM
The problem tennis has is not just one sex.
The whole sport is off the map in the US.
From early September until the following April, there is not one tennis match on a US tv network. CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC.
Not one tennis match.
And golf is on almost every weekend, sometimes on 2 or 3 networks on the same day.