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Jeff
Nov 18th, 2006, 04:02 AM
This is a good way for me to let out my frustrations. I just had to express how horrible many people are at writing. I am a T.A. for an undergraduate class and am having to grade 60 papers this weekend. Grr I'm so frustrated at this point, because it's amazing how many people just don't make sense in their writing. I have gained more respect for teachers after this day :o

Wigglytuff
Nov 18th, 2006, 04:16 AM
This is a good way for me to let out my frustrations. I just had to express how horrible many people are at writing. I am a T.A. for an undergraduate class and am having to grade 60 papers this weekend. Grr I'm so frustrated at this point, because it's amazing how many people just don't make sense in their writing. I have gained more respect for teachers after this day :o
:lol: :lol: :lol: yeah thats got to suck. i dont envy you at all
:sad: :sad:

myxomatosis
Nov 18th, 2006, 04:58 AM
Oh I definitely understand where you're coming from Jeff.
I edit my housemates' papers and they're often just brutal. I literally have to go through them sentence by sentence in an attempt just to make them coherent. And the grammar...don't even get me started on that. :lol:

And here's the thing - these are 4th year university students doing Bachelors of Arts degrees.
It's scary. :tape:

bionic71
Nov 18th, 2006, 05:09 AM
This is a good way for me to let out my frustrations. I just had to express how horrible many people are at writing. I am a T.A. for an undergraduate class and am having to grade 60 papers this weekend. Grr I'm so frustrated at this point, because it's amazing how many people just don't make sense in their writing. I have gained more respect for teachers after this day :o

I hear you loud and clear my friend......
I am a teacher.....just about to begin marking this years Higher School Certificate (the final high school exam in our state that decides university entry places for students). Every year it gets worse....I mark both English and History examinations and the standard is generally diabolical. Not so much the content but the structure, students with no idea how to construct a meaningful argument or organise their information into something that resembles essay form.

Students simply do not read enough today and are spoonfed information....lack of exposure to reading material means that students do not recognise good writing and are unable to construct meaning in their own work. It also limits their vocabulary, which forces them into repetition.

I do marking as the money is quite good for the 4 weeks or so, but it leaves me exhausted. It is no wonder I made the move from classroom teacher into Career Counselling a few years ago.....

I have been involved with University tutor programs over the past few years...and some of the final year students are simply dreadful as well...absolutely no idea.

My advice to all students (of all ages)....READ WIDELY....it will help you to recognise what good writing is, widen your vocab, expand your knowledge base and separate you from the humdrum!

Jeff
Nov 18th, 2006, 05:34 AM
Yeah and this class I am grading for is an upper division psychology class that is a requirement for those wanting to go into teaching...

Crazy Canuck
Nov 18th, 2006, 05:37 AM
I used to work at the library at my alma mater. It never ceased to amaze me how craptacular some of the feedback letters that we received were. Management would post them in the hopes that we would read them and care. I would go up to them with a pen and point out all the errors, or read them aloud and conclude with "I sincerely hope that this was written by a math student".

The other week I edited a paper for my friend who is attending a local college. The paper was so atrocious that I had to avoid just rewriting the entire thing in the hopes of making it readable. Even then I couldn't understand what point she was trying to make.

The moral of the story is that most people simply aren't very talented writers. It's a skill. One that most people don't bother to refine.

Crazy Canuck
Nov 18th, 2006, 05:39 AM
In fact, this makes me think of last summer when I was screened for ADHD. The woman who screened me was fantastic, but when I read her report I couldn't help but think that I could have written it much better than she did :angel:

Ceri
Nov 18th, 2006, 09:26 AM
^^^ totally agree. I've been told that I write well by tutors, they appreciate it because it works in their favour and it dosn't do me any harm either when it comes to grading. A stylish argument carries you a long way. As well as writing badly, too many students lapse into narrative rather than maintain an analytically incisive argument throughout the essay. OP: Can sympathise, as both my parents are teachers and examiners, while they get some brilliant scripts to read the majority are pretty hard going. Good luck and hope the marking isn't too painful!

rightous
Nov 18th, 2006, 10:20 AM
This is a good way for me to let out my frustrations. I just had to express how horrible many people are at writing. I am a T.A. for an undergraduate class and am having to grade 60 papers this weekend. Grr I'm so frustrated at this point, because it's amazing how many people just don't make sense in their writing. I have gained more respect for teachers after this day :o

Join the club. I marked thesis' this week, I swore my 15 year old brother is a better speller.