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-VSR-
Nov 17th, 2006, 08:20 PM
She has had such great results at the US Open, but never got to the final. She really plays well there, until the semifinals where it just doesn't seem to be enough. I think she was one of the greatest to never win there, she got around 4 semifinals.

Can anyone think of any other players that would deserve to win a certain slam, but never did.

UDACHi
Nov 17th, 2006, 08:22 PM
4 semis, including 3 third set tiebreak losses. :sad:

Oizo
Nov 17th, 2006, 08:22 PM
No.

LoveFifteen
Nov 17th, 2006, 08:25 PM
To be honest, I can't think of a female player who hasn't won it that deserves it more.

Same with Hingis and the French. :bigcry:

crazyroberto6767
Nov 17th, 2006, 08:38 PM
Evonne Goolagong comes to mind. Didn't she lose 4 finals in a row there?

RJWCapriati
Nov 17th, 2006, 08:42 PM
Still a chance she can get it :)

GoDominique
Nov 17th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Still a chance she can get it :)
A very small chance.

RJWCapriati
Nov 17th, 2006, 08:51 PM
A very small chance.

Thank you for your input :)

Shonami Slam
Nov 17th, 2006, 09:13 PM
Dementieva has a final and two semis, as well as a QF show, but she doesn't have the slam factor that Jcap had in others.
Pierce has the slam success, but her success at the tourny itself is limited to that one showing.
Martinez had back to back Semis losing to seles.
Mauresmo has both the "other standard greatness" and consitent great results there.
she might be your challenge.

but that's only out of the latest girls on block.
the others have wither a) won it, b) don't come any close to Jcap at the greatness/us success factors.

but evonne takes the overall open era tourny easily. i ain't remembering others right now.
sukova probably tops jennifer as well.
perhaps even novotna.
shriver also has a strong case.

MisterQ
Nov 17th, 2006, 09:26 PM
First thing I thought was BORG. :lol:

But yes, Capriati was on the losing end of three unforgettable semifinals. Seles1991 and Henin-Hardenne2003 are among the highest quality matches I can remember. People still talk about the disbelief people had watching the 17-year old Seles and 15-year old Capriati hit so hard and so precisely. Dementieva2004 was lower quality, but still dramatic.

It would have been fitting for her to win it one of those years, but I guess the tiebreak gods did not agree.

MisterQ
Nov 17th, 2006, 09:30 PM
Footage of that great 1991 semifinal, battle of the prodigies:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3OwezGZnws

:)

thrust
Nov 17th, 2006, 09:46 PM
Evonne Goolagong, then Capriati. Of the men, Borg.

jazzfuzion
Nov 17th, 2006, 09:53 PM
its all just too bad. but she still has a chance,however slim..i don't care

jamatthews
Nov 17th, 2006, 09:55 PM
Footage of that great 1991 semifinal, battle of the prodigies:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3OwezGZnws

:)

I can't decide which is better the grunting or the hair. :lol: :hearts:

Barrie_Dude
Nov 17th, 2006, 09:57 PM
Bjorn Borg is another

Jenny.C.Fan
Nov 17th, 2006, 09:59 PM
No one deserves a us open title more than Jen-Jen, those third set tiebreak losses were the hardest losses ive ever felt as a fan of anyone, the match against Henin-Hardenne in my opinion was the greatest match of all time, the match against dementieva was also amazing, Jen deserves one for all the drama and great matches she's brought to the open over the years, i cant think of anyone more deserving than her.

doddel
Nov 17th, 2006, 11:44 PM
Footage of that great 1991 semifinal, battle of the prodigies:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3OwezGZnws

:)


great to watch!

but I think this clearly shows how much the game has evolved since the early 90ies.

Look at the serves, the groundstrokes, the angles! This was a GS SF! Any current top-10 player would have bagelled them.
The fact that the rallies were so entertainingly long is just because they hardly used any length and angles in their shots

PLP
Nov 17th, 2006, 11:47 PM
To be honest, I can't think of a female player who hasn't won it that deserves it more.

Same with Hingis and the French. :bigcry:

:sad:

Exactly, at least Martina has made the Finals though and won it 2x as a junior...It's hard to believe Jen never even made the finals in NY :(

winone23
Nov 17th, 2006, 11:49 PM
In 2001 she had a good chance until Venus destroyed the dream.

Sammm
Nov 18th, 2006, 12:07 AM
Footage of that great 1991 semifinal, battle of the prodigies:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3OwezGZnws

:)
God, rallies went on for so long back then. Tennis really has changed since then. It would be lovely to see JCap winning the Us Open.
It wouldbe great to see Monica coming back too and winning Wimbledon :bounce: but that's just a dream :sad:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Nov 18th, 2006, 12:07 AM
2004 was her best chance in my opinion .

Marcus1979
Nov 18th, 2006, 12:15 AM
there were other players on other slams that we could say this about also

I am still shocked that Conchita Martinez never won Roland Garros
look at her results on leadup clay events and even her record at US Open.
lost at QF 7 times
lost at SF 3 times
lost at F 1 time

Derek.
Nov 18th, 2006, 12:21 AM
2004 was her year to win both RG and the USO.

MisterQ
Nov 18th, 2006, 12:28 AM
great to watch!

but I think this clearly shows how much the game has evolved since the early 90ies.

Look at the serves, the groundstrokes, the angles! This was a GS SF! Any current top-10 player would have bagelled them.
The fact that the rallies were so entertainingly long is just because they hardly used any length and angles in their shots

The game has evolved... but I think it's a bit extreme to say that they would be bageled today. ;)

They more readily use a defensive moonball to get back into the point, that's true. But there also plenty of penetrating shots. And I think Monica used wicked angles.

An important aspect of all of this is the consistency of these two players, even while hitting hard. One could say the same thing about their slightly older contemporary, Graf. :)

jenny161185
Nov 18th, 2006, 02:12 AM
I know she really should have won it :(

azmad_88
Nov 18th, 2006, 03:21 AM
same can be said to kim at Aussie Open and RG

Aussie Open - 3 SFs 1 F

RG - 1 Sf 2 Fs.

but she never has desire to win RG

so i would say she deserves an AO at least

spencercarlos
Nov 18th, 2006, 04:01 AM
Dementieva has a final and two semis, as well as a QF show, but she doesn't have the slam factor that Jcap had in others.
Pierce has the slam success, but her success at the tourny itself is limited to that one showing.
Martinez had back to back Semis losing to seles.
Mauresmo has both the "other standard greatness" and consitent great results there.
she might be your challenge.

but that's only out of the latest girls on block.
the others have wither a) won it, b) don't come any close to Jcap at the greatness/us success factors.

but evonne takes the overall open era tourny easily. i ain't remembering others right now.
sukova probably tops jennifer as well.
perhaps even novotna.
shriver also has a strong case.
Martinez lost to a non peak Seles in straight sets 6-2 6-2 and 6-4 6-3 in 95 and 96, hardly deserving the title.
Conchita could/should have won Roland Garros instead of Wimbledon.

Sabatini for her part made 5 Roland Garros semifinals, losing 1 to Evert (6-4 6-1 1985), 2 to Graf (in 1987 6-4 4-6 7-5 after leading with a break 5-3 in the third), 6-3 7-6 88, 1991 and 1992 to Seles 6-4 6-1 in 91 and 6-3 4-6 6-4 in 92 after having a 4-2 lead. Gaby should have won Roland Garros without a doubt, but oh well she had to play these giants at their peak in the semis each time.
Sabatini Wimbledon 2 points away from winning it, 3 other Wimbledon semis 1986, 1990, 1992 if my memory serves correctly.

Orion
Nov 18th, 2006, 04:06 AM
Capriati at the US Open is one of the most dramatic storylines in tennis. She may not be among the ten or fifteen greatest players, but she certainly has the most drama surrounding her of the American women.

Yeah, I hope she wins it. She and Goolagong are the two most deserving non-winners.

RJWCapriati
Nov 18th, 2006, 04:51 AM
I can't decide which is better the grunting or the hair. :lol: :hearts:

:sad: I wish it could all start over again - another 2 decades of Seles and Capriati:sad:

CrossCourt~Rally
Nov 18th, 2006, 04:56 AM
Thank you for your input :)


:lol:

pooh14
Nov 18th, 2006, 05:09 AM
oh wow...that is quite shocking. i would rate this same with Hingis in RG.

serenafan08
Nov 18th, 2006, 05:34 AM
Nah...she is the best player to not win the US Open. I think she choked in '91, '03. and '04. There's no reason why she shouldn't have won those. It's really sad because now with all her injuries, it will take a monumental run for her to win it now. I wouldn't put it past her, but it would truly be a miracle for her to win the US Open at this point in her career.

SAEKeithSerena
Nov 18th, 2006, 05:46 AM
definitely.

clonesheep
Nov 18th, 2006, 07:39 AM
I like this thread. Some people said, and I tend to agree, that US Open is the best slam because its surface is the "neutral ground" without the quirks of clay courts at FO or grass at Wimbledon. The best tennis is played there, and by the largest base of participation.

Whether that's true or not, US Open winners are almost always future Hall of Famers. Second-tier players seldom "get lucky" to win USO. Thinking of recent winners, there're Hingis, Davenport, the Williams sisters, the Belgians and, I am reluctant to add, Sharapova. All are No.1 players. The only recent No.1 and future Hall of Famer who has not won USO is indeed Capriati.

In fact, in the last 30 years only Kuznetsova, Clijsters and Sabatini were "one-slam wonder" winners of USO, but Clijsters was at least No.1 and her and Sveta's careers aren't over yet. Sabatini was a major player and already being elected to Hall of Fame. On the men's side it's even more astunding. Among the USO winners in the last 30 years, only Andy Roddick is a one-slam wonder but at least he was No.1.