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Sugar_Kane
Nov 16th, 2006, 08:59 PM
How long will she stay in the top 100 seeing as her career is clearly going down the drain?

LH2HBH
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:05 PM
:weirdo:

A Player ranked #30 in the world with a career-high #20 the very same year does not make a career "going down the drain".

She is still improving :rolleyes:

goldenlox
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:08 PM
She hasn't done well since Beijing, but she's still 19.
I think she'll stay well inside the top 100.

Sugar_Kane
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:10 PM
I'm sorry but you're the :weirdo: here who is obviously confused.

Maria has had a poor year:

1. She lost 26 matches this year
2. Lost regulary to players ranked below here
3. Only managed the 3rd round of Grand Slams...while her peers all managed to get further
4. Let down her country in the FedCup
5. Failed to even make a half decent attemt at defending her title.

So yes I would say her career is down the toilets right now

goldenlox
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:12 PM
She didn't let anyone down during Fed Cup.
She was playing Kim in Belgium.

Piotr'ek
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:12 PM
Only thing she need is a psychologist, she is so well skilled. Hard to say why she is recording so bad results lately.

LH2HBH
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:13 PM
I'm sorry but you're the :weirdo: here who is obviously confused.

Maria has had a poor year:

1. She lost 26 matches this year
2. Lost regulary to players ranked below here
3. Only managed the 3rd round of Grand Slams...while her peers all managed to get further
4. Let down her country in the FedCup
5. Failed to even make a half decent attemt at defending her title.

BAD SEASON [not equal to] CAREER GOING DOWN DRAIN for a 19 year old who is still improving.

Sugar_Kane
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:17 PM
BAD SEASON [not equal to] CAREER GOING DOWN DRAIN for a 19 year old who is still improving.

Hmmm...yes I see me and you have a different definition of "improving"

Since when was going from: "Not losing to a player ranked below you, winning a tier II title and challenging the top 10" to "losing most of the time to players ranked way below you, not coming close to winning a title and being trounced by players above you" an improvement

she's gone backwards...why can't people see she's already peaked.

goldenlox
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:23 PM
I can see she's not winning a lot, that doesn't mean she's peaked.

theFutureisNow
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:28 PM
I hope that Sharapova will offer to train with her. I think this would be her best chance to improve.

Does anyone know how often this happens in tennis? I know it happens all the time in other sports, but dont know if tennis being an individual sport would prevent this.

So does anyone know if there is any chance of this happening?

Dexter
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:30 PM
It's in her head... she's been in a winning position in so many matches this year but couldn't make it count when it mattered :( Hope she sorts it out asap - if so she's a decent Top30 player.

LH2HBH
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:31 PM
I hope that Sharapova will offer to train with her. I think this would be her best chance to improve.

Does anyone know how often this happens in tennis? I know it happens all the time in other sports, but dont know if tennis being an individual sport would prevent this.

So does anyone know if there is any chance of this happening?

There is no chance beyond players being "hitting partners" with eachother.

It just does not happen. Players hire their own teams.

Filippo-Nastya
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:34 PM
Let down her country in the FedCup

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

LH2HBH
Nov 16th, 2006, 09:54 PM
Well Anna_Maniac, I can see you have a lot of people agreeing with your post :rolleyes:

If she has another bad year or two then maybe we can say she is going down the drain.

©@®eLess
Nov 16th, 2006, 10:07 PM
Never

Dan23
Nov 16th, 2006, 11:12 PM
indefinitely

Sugar_Kane
Nov 16th, 2006, 11:52 PM
It's in her head... she's been in a winning position in so many matches this year but couldn't make it count when it mattered :( Hope she sorts it out asap - if so she's a decent Top30 player.

At best, she will probably spend most of her career between 100 and 20 but she will never get above 20 and she will not be the player was hyped up to be.

goldenlox
Nov 17th, 2006, 01:15 AM
Maria spent most of this year between 20-25.
Top 20 isn't wild for her. Maria is very capable of it.

Derek.
Nov 17th, 2006, 01:21 AM
Maria's career isn't going down the drain. :rolleyes:

A lot of players have had sophmore slumps. It's normal.

And she defintely did not let down Russia in Fed Cup.

They put her against Kim Clijsters. I don't think they were expecting a win.

Sugar_Kane
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:06 PM
Maria's career isn't going down the drain. :rolleyes:

A lot of players have had sophmore slumps. It's normal.

And she defintely did not let down Russia in Fed Cup.

They put her against Kim Clijsters. I don't think they were expecting a win.

They must have thought she could win or why put her in...I usually support Russia for the Fed Cup and I was let down by her.

King Aaron
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:08 PM
Maria won't be out of the Top 50.

Craigy
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:10 PM
Hater. So typical I must say.

goldenlox
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:12 PM
They must have thought she could win or why put her in...I usually support Russia for the Fed Cup and I was let down by her.You should also feel let down by Sharapova not being there.
You can't expect Kirilenko to beat Kim.

The 2 top Belgians were there. The top ranked player with a Russian passport was doing interviews in the US that week.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:18 PM
She won't fall out of the top50 :rolleyes:

Sugar_Kane
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:26 PM
You should also feel let down by Sharapova not being there.
You can't expect Kirilenko to beat Kim.

The 2 top Belgians were there. The top ranked player with a Russian passport was doing interviews in the US that week.

1. I bet she does fall out of the top 50 along with that other overratted player Mirza.

2. Big Masha was still coming into her body and so it was the wrong time for her play fed cup her schedule is full enough as it is. She has now decided to play for Russia because she is stronger and have a more intense schedule as evidenced by the end of the year

3. I'm no hater I can see past Big boobs and bonde hair

goldenlox
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:30 PM
2. Big Masha was still coming into her body and so it was the wrong time for her play fed cup her schedule is full enough as it is. She has now decided to play for Russia because she is stronger and have a more intense schedule as evidenced by the end of the year

She's never played Fed Cup. "still coming into her body" doesn't stop Sharapova from playing every major, 4 straight years of Birmingham, and every other tournament and exhibition she plays.

Sugar_Kane
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:50 PM
She's never played Fed Cup. "still coming into her body" doesn't stop Sharapova from playing every major, 4 straight years of Birmingham, and every other tournament and exhibition she plays.

I'm sorry I didn't realise that playing Grand Slams or other tournaments was a crime...I think you'll find that most players would regard their actual Grand Slam career is more important than Fed Cup.

goldenlox
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:53 PM
That's fine. But if Sharapova doesn't bother to show up, don't blame a non-top 20 player for losing to Kim.
If the team was stronger, Kirilenko wouldn't be playing that match.

bellascarlett
Nov 17th, 2006, 02:58 PM
You should also feel let down by Sharapova not being there.
You can't expect Kirilenko to beat Kim.

The 2 top Belgians were there. The top ranked player with a Russian passport was doing interviews in the US that week.

Just a matter of time Sharapova was brought into this. I knew it. :rolleyes: Of course isn't surprising who did it. :o

Maria didn't sign up for that Fed Cup tie so all responsibility was out of her hands (and everyone knew that months before). It was Petrova who signed up for it and of course, she again played TOO much heading into the Fed Cup. She was the one who let the team down if there was anyone to blame. Kirilenko was only a substitute and Clijsters had just come from injury if I can recall and was just beaten by Lena, Petrova would have had a good shot if she just had a good preparation for Fed Cup which she was responsible for having signed up for it.

The tie was played on clay. With Petrova having just won 2 clay titles right before, she was Russia's strongest bet on clay. We all know how Maria stands on clay but that doesn't matter, as I said, she was in no way responsible for how things turned out. She didn't sign up for it and wasn't obligated to prepare for it as were some people.

goldenlox
Nov 17th, 2006, 03:01 PM
She didn't sign up for any of them. Clay, indoors or any other.
Nadia was there and played. Kirilenko was there and played.
Sharapova still hasn't played a Fed Cup match.
Eventually, it was going to matter. It did, against Belgium.

bellascarlett
Nov 17th, 2006, 03:11 PM
She didn't sign up for any of them. Clay, indoors or any other.
Nadia was there and played. Kirilenko was there and played.
Sharapova still hasn't played a Fed Cup match.
Eventually, it was going to matter. It did, against Belgium.

Yes, she didn't sign up for any. It wasn't obviously a priority before. any problem with that? coz I don't see anything wrong with it. She wanted to wait for the right time and now she has signed up for it.

And does logic fly over you? Nadia should have been the one who played Kim. As you said, Kirilenko shouldn't have even played the match but as part of the team, she should have been prepared to be sent out there and she lost the match.

Don't blame someone who wasn't there for convenience. This shouldn't even be about Sharapova. And so what if she hasn't played Fed Cup?! So freakin' what? My god...It's not her duty to anyway.

Russia had a good enough shot against Belgium with the team they fielded, with both leading singles players having a better record than Maria on clay.

goldenlox
Nov 17th, 2006, 03:22 PM
Nadia was exhausted. She just won 2 tournaments and flew to Europe.
If Sharapova never plays Fed Cup, big deal, the world goes on.
But that loss wasn't the fault of the players who cared enough to show up and play.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 17th, 2006, 03:25 PM
3. I'm no hater I can see past Big boobs and bonde hair

no wonder you cant see anything :rolleyes: :lol: :lol:

blind as a bat.

bellascarlett
Nov 17th, 2006, 03:27 PM
Nadia was exhausted. She just won 2 tournaments and flew to Europe.
Exactly my point. :o She should have prepared for it better knowing she was leading the team being the best one on clay and having cared so much as you say.


If Sharapova never plays Fed Cup, big deal, the world goes on.
Maybe you should try telling this more to yourself as you're the one who just LOVES to bring her up when anything Fed Cup is touched.

But that loss wasn't the fault of the players who cared enough to show up and play. Moreso of someone who wasn't there. :help: :o

goldenlox
Nov 17th, 2006, 03:30 PM
Players don't know when injuries or exhaustion will happen.
Nadia made a very unselfish committment.
Dementieva and Myskina make that unselfish committment many many times.

bellascarlett
Nov 17th, 2006, 03:30 PM
If Sharapova never plays Fed Cup, big deal, the world goes on.


:hearts:

Nice quote by the way goldenlox. :lol: Easy to remember. :)

Ryan
Nov 17th, 2006, 03:58 PM
I'm sorry but you're the :weirdo: here who is obviously confused.

Maria has had a poor year:

1. She lost 26 matches this year
2. Lost regulary to players ranked below here
3. Only managed the 3rd round of Grand Slams...while her peers all managed to get further
4. Let down her country in the FedCup
5. Failed to even make a half decent attemt at defending her title.

So yes I would say her career is down the toilets right now


Just like this thread. You're obviously jealous, maybe you should see a shrink to work out your inferiority complex.

Ryan
Nov 17th, 2006, 04:00 PM
Nadia was exhausted. She just won 2 tournaments and flew to Europe.
If Sharapova never plays Fed Cup, big deal, the world goes on.
But that loss wasn't the fault of the players who cared enough to show up and play.


So every time Switzerland loses its Hingis and Pattys fault? That's dumb logic goldy. Sharapova didn't play, and therefore cant be held responsible for Russia losing. Did Svetlana play? Nastya? Elena? It seems the blame can be spread around 10 fold.

ezekiel
Nov 17th, 2006, 04:00 PM
she doesn't have a lot of game but everyone is injured and doesn't play so she and many like her are around .

On somewhat related note, is it just me or did she age a whole lot this year ?

fufuqifuqishahah
Nov 17th, 2006, 04:01 PM
it was probably the outfits.... they were too heavy, not very aerodynamic

selyoink
Nov 17th, 2006, 04:20 PM
I don't think she has a great game so I could definitely see her fall out of the top 50. If she does it will be sometime after Miami. Not saying she will.

Louis Cyphre
Nov 17th, 2006, 04:24 PM
How long will she stay in the top 100 seeing as her career is clearly going down the drain?

the season is over but stupid threads have no end ...

goldenlox
Nov 17th, 2006, 04:28 PM
Did Svetlana play? Nastya? Elena? It seems the blame can be spread around 10 fold.Sharapova never plays, there's a big difference.

Martian Jeza
Nov 17th, 2006, 05:13 PM
Maria Kirilenko has the abilities to be a very good top 20 player : she has a lot of talent but I think a bit too short to win big titles but who knows : she still is young and still can improve a lot... She had a good begin of the year but since the fedcup match against Belgium : something happened in her head : no more confidence in herself, way too cautious in her game, she completly was the shadow of herself...

We don't have to forget she struggled with a recurent left knee injury, she had also a pectoral injury but I don't know if she still has troubles with.

I hope she will make a better 2007 : I'm sure she can do it ! A nice motto for 'lil Masha " No fear, play your game ".

Davaï 'lil Masha :bounce: :bounce: :hug: :hug:

Wayn77
Nov 17th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Will be interesting to see how long Maria's relationship endures with new British coach Nigel Sears. She has the game for the top 20 - of that there is no doubt.

jazar
Nov 17th, 2006, 05:50 PM
she will be around for a long time to come. she is a very talented attacking player and if she learns to volley properly she will win a big tournament next year. she also happens to be sizzling HOT!

Sugar_Kane
Nov 18th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Maria still has a lot of her game that she needs to improve on which is why she'd goin' down!

Gooner
Nov 18th, 2006, 07:57 PM
Maria is still so young and has plenty of time to work out the problems she is having on the court. Many players go through this in there career especially when they first start out. I think she will improve and be a regular in the top 20 for years to come.