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samsung101
Nov 15th, 2006, 02:47 PM
NBC puts it on tv, his audio and video corruption scam bits.

Where he talks about taking a bribe.


Funny, how that little tidbit has popped up on something other
than conservative blogs and websites now that the election is over.


60 Minutes inside personnel has a new book on the ABSCAM scandal,
and front and center is Murtha...saved only by his pal Tip O'Neill from
doing time. Gee, wonder why 60 Minutes didn't put that out before
the election...coincidence I guess.

Oh well.

Sort of like Abramoff going to prison and now we read that he has
details on 6-8 Democratic Senators closely tied to corruption charges
w/him....cash, gifts, paybacks, etc.

Funny, I thought it was only a few Republican Congressmen, some of
whom are already out the door and on the way to jail.

Oh yeah, maybe he gave Rove some gifts.

Well, fine, kick Rove out.

I would not cry over that.

Also, Rove ain't an elected official. He's under no formal oath of office,
as a Congressman or Senator is.

So far, Rove has escaped all charges and investigations. My bet is he
would again.


Some Democrats are concerned Murtha's past will come back to haunt
them down the line....if Pelosi keeps saying 'culture of corruption' about
the GOP, and she hands the GOP a corruption and pork barrel poster
child in Murtha.


Please stay the course Nancy, the GOP needs something to chew on, and
Murtha's past is a good start.

samsung101
Nov 15th, 2006, 03:16 PM
You can catch it at YouTube and various political websites now.

Nice John. Really nice.

Also, very nice of the Washington Post to NOW come out with
the real news on Murtha, and his past, and how his Iraq
redeployment ideas are well, illogical and not the right path to
take.

But, hey, that's what they're going to do.

Say hello to about 1 million dead in short order in the Middle East.
A domino effect set in motion not by defeat of the USA ,but by
a USA that cannot and will not stand by its word, and put up with
sacrifice and death to get a job done the best it can. We're only
putting off the problem, not ending it.

Paneru
Nov 15th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Sad man, eh? :lol:

So what else is new with politicians.
If they are corrupt and breaking the law
they should be prosecuted. And if that's
the case, then nearly half of Capitol Hill
is going down, on both sides.

Then again, unless you are a government
official or an "illegal immigrant" you can't
committ felonies and so on w/o too many
reprocussions, if any.

Again, what else is new! :lol:

If Capitol Hill & this government will remain
a reflection of types like yourself, heaven
help us all and the world because nothing
worth while is ever gonna get done!

samsung101
Nov 15th, 2006, 04:57 PM
The Clinton appointed judge has shut down the Abramoff case a week
after the election, after he is sent to prison, over the objections of
the investigators, as he was about to...you guessed it.........

spill the beans on the 8 Democratic Senators who were wrapped
up in his financial scandals and gift giving....oh my.



That isn't obvious or anything.

But, the GOP got one full year of scandal tv coverage to helpt
them lose an election.

Judges, that's where all the power is. Good to know Teddy Kennedy,
he of the dead girl in the backseat underwater situation, will be
deciding our judicial future.

SelesFan70
Nov 15th, 2006, 06:09 PM
It's fascinating watching them eat their own. :bounce:

Paneru
Nov 15th, 2006, 06:16 PM
The Clinton appointed judge has shut down the Abramoff case a week
after the election, after he is sent to prison, over the objections of
the investigators, as he was about to...you guessed it.........

spill the beans on the 8 Democratic Senators who were wrapped
up in his financial scandals and gift giving....oh my.



That isn't obvious or anything.

But, the GOP got one full year of scandal tv coverage to helpt
them lose an election.

Judges, that's where all the power is. Good to know Teddy Kennedy,
he of the dead girl in the backseat underwater situation, will be
deciding our judicial future.

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Crying because you get burned by political gamesmanship,
the same "Beast" you yourself are apart of? Hilarious.

It's like one big High School special equipped
with every click imaginable and the powers that
be egging it along. Only difference being, their is
no overall redeeming message.

I love reading your rants about "hypocracy" when
you yourself represent the epitome of it by
condoning it because others you hate did it. ;)

When the tables were turned, it's duck and cover/divert
attention. Now, it's rev it up and let's watch it explode! :D

Keep the shit flying! :wavey:

roarke
Nov 15th, 2006, 06:28 PM
Didn't most if not all of this happen some 26 years ago and he wasn't charged with any crime??

Vlover
Nov 15th, 2006, 06:38 PM
Didn't most if not all of this happen some 26 years ago and he wasn't charged with any crime??

You are correct but remember Republicans especially love to go back in years like Studds, Kerry, Clinton etc. Such a pity the didn't focus more on Veitnam for Iraq. I would love Murtha to be the leader because he seem to be the one who's serious about ending this futile war.

wta_zuperfann
Nov 15th, 2006, 07:58 PM
You are correct but remember Republicans especially love to go back in years like Studds, Kerry, Clinton etc. Such a pity the didn't focus more on Veitnam for Iraq. I would love Murtha to be the leader because he seem to be the one who's serious about ending this futile war.



Murtha wasn't charged because he did not commit any crimes as both of you said. Therefore, the title of this thread is incorrect as Murtha was not shown to have engaged in any corruption.

One thing that has been forgotten in all this controversy is the fact that the Department of Justice was under Democratic Party control and most of those implicated were Democrats. If anything, it shows the integrity of that party as it purged dishonest people from within its own ranks.

samsung101
Nov 15th, 2006, 08:35 PM
It also only goes to show the scandals and corruption charges
were not the big thing, it was only when it was about Republicans,
and how can the media help the Democrats.

This information should have been on the table for voters
before the election, with the same huge headlines as for
the GOP.

I do hold the GOP to a higher standard, and have no problem
if voters wanted 'the bum's out because of corruption. I do
have a problem the media had the back of the Democrats
so obviously.


One way or the other we should get this out. Hearings in
Congress aimed at Democrats, nah....only the GOP does that.
It held hearings to skewer it's own. Will the Democrats?

Don't bet on it.


Murtha's past is well known.
He, like McCain, has been bitter about it too.
They are alike in many ways.

wta_zuperfann
Nov 16th, 2006, 11:16 AM
I do
have a problem the media had the back of the Democrats
so obviously.


You obviously forgot all the media hype about the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal. So much horse sh*t over nothing.

Yet, where is the news media to condemn Bush over his interminable lies about nonexistent WMD?

Kunal
Nov 16th, 2006, 05:23 PM
for some reason i kept on thinking that it was related to india

samsung101
Nov 16th, 2006, 07:24 PM
I wrote that the media would write of the Democratic scandals
and corruption as soon as the election was over...and they
won.

As 'the mainstream media' and 'The Dems' are the same.


Conyers now too.
Oh my, he used staff for personal matters and campaigning...
illegal.

Murthas well documented, yet underreported, ethics are crap
video and acts are now out again.

Reid too..and with any luck, his are just beginning.

The other 7 Democratic Abramoff buddies will leak out little
by little......

wta_zuperfann
Nov 16th, 2006, 08:00 PM
Hearings in Congress aimed at Democrats, nah....only the GOP does that.


When the trials relating to the ABSCAM scandals were being prosecuted and concluded, the Department of Justice was under Republican control. Reagan's operatives could have prosecuted Murtha if they chose to do so. But they didn't because they had nothing on him.

samsung101
Nov 16th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Odd, Harry Reid promised Tester he would get the top
committee spot, big money for Montana, and it helped
him defeat Burns. Much like the Abramoff scandal helped
defeat Burns.

Harry, you know Abramoff.

Now Harry gives the spot...ta-da...to someone else.
Tester doesn't get what the voters of Montana were told
over and over he'd get, so vote Democrat!

Harry, you're good.


It's only Montana, not like anyone really lives there matters
unless it's election time.


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Please don't tell me Mr. Murtha we need to look at Iran or
North Korea or do something to help Darfur. We cannot. We
set the stage for ourselves already. Islam and Muslims involved,
and they know the secret to success: just kill a few Americans,
blow up some civilians in front of a camera or news crew or
make a snuff film and send it to CNN, and the public wants out.
So, don't bother with humanitarian assistance to any problem
area w/Muslim groups involved. We did that already in Yugoslavia
and Africa. No can do anymore.........the public spoke. That's
our new policy - stay home. No matter what. If we're attacked
again - so what, we deserved it. Really, Michael Moore will show
us that...we did it to ourselves, we're the enemy. I got it now.

wta_zuperfann
Nov 17th, 2006, 12:57 PM
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001997.php


Abramoff in with Dems? Former Colleagues Say No
By Paul Kiel - November 16, 2006, 2:32 PM

"Abramoff Reports to Prison; Officials Focus on Reid, Others," was the headline of an ABC story yesterday reporting that Jack Abramoff, the convicted lobbyist, was dishing dirt on a handful of Democratic senators, Harry Reid (D-NV) in particular.

"Abramoff has offered testimony [to investigators] about his contacts with 'six to eight seriously corrupt Democratic senators,'" ABC News reported, citing "sources close to the federal investigation." One "source close to the investigation" told ABC that $30,000 in contributions to Reid from Abramoff's tribal clients "were no accident and were in fact requested by Reid."

The report was surprising, particularly given that in the thousands of pages of Abramoff's emails, billing records and other documents released over the past two years, there's little evidence that the Republican lobbyist or his team worked very hard to persuade Democratic lawmakers to support their clients, legally or illegally.

Curious to learn more, we called a number of Abramoff's former colleagues from his heyday at the Greenberg Traurig lobby firm to see how the story struck them.

"Jack has not met eight Democrats in Washington," one lobbyist told us.

He and others spoke on the condition of anonymity, because they did not want further publicity connecting them to Abramoff. Also, it should be noted that the lobbyists we spoke with continue to rely on access to lawmakers like Reid.

Ron Platt, a Democratic lobbyist who worked for a time with Abramoff on behalf of several clients and managed relations (such as they were) with Reid and other Democrats, said, "It's beyond my belief that he would have trusted a Democratic senator or house member."

"Jack Abramoff would never let any Democratic lobbyist, even on his team, manage one of his client matters," said Platt.

Several expressed disbelief that Abramoff had the goods on Reid, as the ABC post suggested. "As far as I know, I can say that there is not a shred of truth to any allegation that anything Reid did that may have benefited a Greenberg client was done for anything of value given to Sen. Reid by Jack Abramoff or anyone else at Greenberg," one former associate said, noting that the few actions Reid took which benefited Abramoff's clients were consistent with positions the Nevada senator had long espoused.

The ABC story is of course not the first one to purport to show Abramoff's access to Reid. The Associated Press ran what we found to be a deeply flawed story earlier this year detailing contacts with Reid's staff by lobbyists at Greenberg Traurig -- a story that ABC relied on for evidence of Abramoff's access to Reid in their recent story.




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