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samsung101
Nov 10th, 2006, 08:07 PM
I love this.

The nation that gave us WWI, WWII, Hitler, Nazis and
was taking payback from Saddam for a decade to allow
him to continue creating mass graves, gas Kurds, and
create a new nuke plan (NY Times, not me), is going to
prosecute Rummy.

Knock yourself out.

I'm sure he's really worried.

Ramsey Clark should get right on this.

Will this be the same type of court that tried to prosecute
Clinton for war crimes? I'm all for it. Let the circus begin.

When we prosecute the people in Germany and the EU who
stood around while Rwanda had rivers of bodies and blood
to the tune of what, 2 million, let me know.

When we prosecute the UN soldiers who stood around or
participated in the rape and slavery rings of Somalia, Sudan,
Rwanda, let me know.



I like that the General who let the Abu Ghraib things go on,
all of about a dozen troops out out of what...nearly 250,000
in and out so far....is involved.

CYA.

Book deal down the road.

Let me know where I can donate to Rummy's defense fund.
He won't even bother to answer the stupid thing.

SelesFan70
Nov 10th, 2006, 08:53 PM
To be fair, it's not the German government doing this, but still... :rolleyes:

Apoleb
Nov 10th, 2006, 09:09 PM
So Germans can't have any say about human rights issues, because of what happened in the 30s and 40s right? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Lord Nelson
Nov 10th, 2006, 10:51 PM
So Germans can't have any say about human rights issues, because of what happened in the 30s and 40s right? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You can also add East Germany until 1989. No foreign tribunal charged Honecker with any war crimes.

rrfnpump
Nov 11th, 2006, 01:52 AM
Ramsey Clark, the war criminal's best friend

The former U.S. attorney general has become the tool of left-wing cultists who defend Slobodan Milosevic, Saddam Hussein and Rwandan torturers as anti-imperialist heroes.

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By Ian Williams

June 21, 1999 | In the most morbidly literal way, NATO forces are "sniffing out" more mass graves than alliance spokesman Jamie Shea ever suspected. Dog-eaten sticks of bone poke from putrescent pits on television screens. So it is not surprising that on July 31 New York will see the opening of a commission of inquiry for an international war crimes tribunal. What may surprise some is that its target is NATO's war crimes.

Those who know him will be less surprised that the inspiration for this circus is former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, whom one long-standing colleague described as "a good man gone ga-ga -- at least 25 years ago." Many liberals and leftists cut Clark a considerable degree of slack. For a start he is almost the only person the American left has had in high public office since World War II, even if it was a retrospective success, since his long march leftward only began afterward. His views as the former attorney general are listened to with a respect that would be accorded to few others with such eccentric opinions. As a revered spokesman of the left, he is a perfect symbol for its near-impotence in American politics today.

Everyone who has dealings with Clark uses the word "nice" to describe him. But he often sides with people whom no one with a full deck would call nice. (Clark did not respond to a Salon News interview request.) Many former friends, more in sorrow than in anger, trace his present positions to the company he keeps: the International Action Center, which proclaims him its founder but seems entirely in the thrall of an obscure Trotskyist sect, the Workers World Party. Whoever writes his scripts, there is little doubt what Ramsey Clark is against now -- any manifestation of the power of the state he once served at the height of the Vietnam War.

At the end of 1998 Clark attended a human rights conference in Baghdad, Iraq, where in his keynote speech he pointed out how "the governments of the rich nations, primarily the United States, England and France," dominated the wording of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which showed "little concern for economic, social and cultural rights." The social and cultural rights claimed by his Iraqi hosts include the right to hang opponents in public at the airport, or poison thousands of Kurds and torture and execute any opponent of the regime. And on the legality of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, the silence is deafening.

When he flew to Belgrade to support Slobodan Milosevic during NATO's campaign, there was no word about the siege of Sarajevo, the massacre at Srebrenica or the million homeless refugees from Kosovo -- and even less of those olfactorily eloquent mass graves that NATO is now uncovering. But then, urging Belgrade to resist NATO, while he was there picking up an honorary degree, he told his hosts, "It will be a great struggle, but a glorious victory. You can be victorious."

In Grenada he went to advise Bernard Coard, the murderer of Prime Minister Maurice Bishop. Other clients include Radovan Karadzic, the indicted Bosnian Serbian war criminal whom he defended in a New York civil suit brought by Bosnian rape victims, and the Rwandan pastor who is accused of telling Tutsis to hide in his church and then summoning Hutus to massacre them, and then leading killing squads.

His willingness to accept dubious clients is defended by some attorneys. After all, everyone needs a defense. Others say he has crossed a moral line by defending Karadzic and overlooking events in Kosovo. But looking at his legal arguments, one must question the wisdom of his legal counsel, not just his morals. A prominent international lawyer explains, "He's not really very well up on international law -- I remember he was asking for help in some of his early cases."


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/06/21/clark/

Bacardi
Nov 11th, 2006, 01:59 AM
You know we took Germany and Hitler's henchmen to court and charged them. We even took Saddam to court and charged him. Bush and Rummy are just as much to blame for the numerous innocent deaths in Iraq if not more than Saddam. Just because they called theirs freedom and Saddam called his terrorism doesn't make a damn difference. I hope they bring Rummy and George W to court over crimes against humanity!

Paneru
Nov 11th, 2006, 02:00 AM
So Germans can't have any say about human rights issues, because of what happened in the 30s and 40s right? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You didn't know that often times
people who live in glass houses
love to throw stones?

Ofcourse the starter of this thread
has the audasity to say shit about
other countries when this country
has it's own sorted history.

Go figure.

SelesFan70
Nov 11th, 2006, 02:19 AM
You know we took Germany and Hitler's henchmen to court and charged them. We even took Saddam to court and charged him. Bush and Rummy are just as much to blame for the numerous innocent deaths in Iraq if not more than Saddam. Just because they called theirs freedom and Saddam called his terrorism doesn't make a damn difference. I hope they bring Rummy and George W to court over crimes against humanity!

:retard: :weirdo: