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Kirilenko_Kamp
Nov 10th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Can Makiri's style of play prove to be fruitful in 2007? Is there any room in women's tennis for the type of game Makiri plays? Power is all the rage and players are coming out in droves with that style of play every year.
The reason I ask this is because I watched Hingis (who has a similar game) plat at the YEC Championship against Mauresmo last night. Martina struggled with the power at times and looked winded which is disheartening because that's the dilemma I see Makiri will have to face with in 2007. She lacks the craftiness and guile that Martina possesses. As we all know, Makiri lacks a big weapon that the other power hitters have and can't blow players off the court. She has to rely more on her movement and ability of returning every ball back with her feet like being a "human backboard" (Amanda Coetzer style). That in turn means Makiri has to work even harder to win points in matches than the other big hitters who have the ability to win cheap points with a big serve, huge FH, and BH. I just don't know if Makiri's game will allow her to win a slam. I dearly hope Makiri proves me wrong in 2007.

Ravsieg
Nov 11th, 2006, 01:17 AM
I've watched Maria matches lately and her style is quite fitting if she can make use of it. Her serve and strokes get stronger as time goes, and she still has the ability of mixing things up, which she seldom uses now.
Yes, she'll have a hard time against heavier hitters but if she keeps her pace and gets her mind on playing smart (she's showed she can do it) she can beat anyone.

Kirilenko_Kamp
Nov 11th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Leg strength, foot speed, upper body strength, and increased stamina are demanded in Makiri's style of play. Hopefully, she'll work hard on these criteria during the off season. I would really like her to work to improve on her abilities in constructing a point, learning to be PATIENT during rallies, and avoid mental mistakes like trying an ill advised drop shot at critical points in a match, etc. She's got the variety of shots in her repertoire, but just doesn't use them often enough.:mad: Is it too late for her develop a big FH or BH? She's only 19. How about flattening out her groundstrokes? I just don't know if she has an answer in beating the big hitters. Hingis is having a hard time dealing with that now. More than likely, she'll encounter one big hitter in a draw, in every tourney she enters.:sad:

~lollipop_girl~
Nov 13th, 2006, 07:12 AM
I would really like her to work to improve on her abilities in constructing a point, learning to be PATIENT during rallies, and avoid mental mistakes like trying an ill advised drop shot at critical points in a match, etc. She's got the variety of shots in her repertoire, but just doesn't use them often enough.:mad:

I think that is so important for Maria...
The way her game develops during tournaments & away from it will completely depend on if she can keep her emotions under control enough to allow her to make the correct decision whilst under pressure & if she can stay completely focused... Unfortunately in my eyes, Sears can't help her with this, he spent years trying to get Daniela to work this part of her game out and things only started to fall in place once they split up... Hopefully, Makiri proves to be very different to Daniela and she can work this part of her game out a lot faster...

AK-DH Fan
Nov 15th, 2006, 01:48 AM
Yeah I think she has to try to get stronger. She does look very fit nowadays, but she's not hitting the ball as hard consistantly compared to other players. I think part of it is because of her height. But at the same time her quickness is one of her best assets, so she's got to be careful how much muscle she puts on,if she decides to. I havent heard anything about her doing that but I think she should. It would definately improve her game imo

andrewbroad
Nov 20th, 2006, 03:42 PM
If I were Maria, I'd do anything to develop groundstrokes of flairsome power, which is exactly the change that Anna Chakvetadze has made to her own game in the last year or so. Timing, not muscle!

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fun_chumm
Nov 20th, 2006, 03:58 PM
... or maybe nigel sears is not effective for her.. lol :D

Ravsieg
Dec 8th, 2006, 03:57 AM
Either way, I wouldn't be pleased if she changed into another ball blaster even if that meant better results. Having the constructive and thoughtful style of play is without doubt one of the biggest reasons I'm a fan of her.

Andy.
Dec 8th, 2006, 06:57 AM
I think the fact that she does play a little different could help her if she continues to play agressive and use her craftyness and net skills. Players arent used to having to play against that sort of game and if she can really perfect her style she will be a tough opponent to play.

houseoflords
Dec 12th, 2006, 04:45 AM
Maria must first decide what her style of play is. She has to choice one and stick with it. I think Maria is more effective when she is more aggressive & uses a variety of shots and tactics in her games. Her chances for success are better when she uses her slice backhand, serves & vollies, returns & vollies, comes to net and moves her opponent around. This is what Masha did in the fall of 2005 when she enjoyed her best results in her career. She gets into trouble when she stands on the baseline and tries to outlast her opponent in rallies.

Andy.
Dec 12th, 2006, 09:49 AM
:D Maria must first decide what her style of play is. She has to choice one and stick with it. I think Maria is more effective when she is more aggressive & uses a variety of shots and tactics in her games. Her chances for success are better when she uses her slice backhand, serves & vollies, returns & vollies, comes to net and moves her opponent around. This is what Masha did in the fall of 2005 when she enjoyed her best results in her career. She gets into trouble when she stands on the baseline and tries to outlast her opponent in rallies.
Exactly couldnt have said it better

DanWoody
Dec 12th, 2006, 03:33 PM
Yeah, she must play hoter.
Baseline rallies alone are too boring...

the cat
Dec 12th, 2006, 04:24 PM
Little Masha is a fine all court tennis player who plays excellent defense and has a wide variety of shots to keep her opponents off balance. Masha does alot well on the tennis court. But she doesn't play smartly and doesn't play the right shots and the right time enough of the time. Makiri has tremendous hands and is a good volleyer. But getting to the net against the big babes of women's tennis is hard for her to do because of the power and depth most of the WTA Tour plays with these days.

I would like for Makiri to player smarter tennis in 2007. Most players will beat themselves if given the chance. And that's how Maria loses alot of matches. Players give her the chance to beat herself and she does quite often. She should do the same to her foes.

Derek.
Dec 16th, 2006, 09:19 PM
Maria will never have a big weapon, but she can definitely improve things.

She just needs her confidence back.

JimM
Dec 17th, 2006, 06:12 AM
Maria will never have a big weapon, but she can definitely improve things.

She just needs her confidence back.

Agreed. Confidence & courtcraft. I hope the knee injury is cleared up and by the end of 2007 she has moved back into the #20's

Ravsieg
Jan 22nd, 2007, 04:46 AM
On her match against Kuznetsova she displayed flashes for brilliance amongst basic grinder play and horrible UEs. She knows how to do it, that's for granted. She just needs to put it into practical use.

eye2eye
Feb 25th, 2007, 12:24 PM
I am huge fan of Maria but lets face the facts, she doesn't have game to go deep into big tournaments
- her 1st serve is at best average, not to mention second serve which need improvement right now
- her shots lack power, she doesn't have ability to bash ball hard form every place on court , of course she knows how to finsh point but usually she doesn it only form mid court or in defense when power is not the most important
- her net game is pretty poor ( I've watched many her matches in 2007 and 2006 and the approach shots are poor and her volley aren't great at all)
- she is not the best mover and her menatl side is also not that great
- she doesn't have such great court sense or techinque to play with touch insted of power

maybe some things could improve but eveyr year many yunger girls come who have more weapons Paszek, Radwanska for example had more weapons than Maria I hope she can improve many things so she can be a real danger and force to me reconed with
- her serve could easily be improved especially second serve
- as well as her movement
- volley

maybe she could go stronger working harder in gym, but that could destroy ger beauty

But anyway I wish her good luck and great carrer :worship:

Derek.
Feb 25th, 2007, 05:02 PM
I am huge fan of Maria but lets face the facts, she doesn't have game to go deep into big tournaments
- her 1st serve is at best average, not to mention second serve which need improvement right now
- her shots lack power, she doesn't have ability to bash ball hard form every place on court , of course she knows how to finsh point but usually she doesn it only form mid court or in defense when power is not the most important
- her net game is pretty poor ( I've watched many her matches in 2007 and 2006 and the approach shots are poor and her volley aren't great at all)
- she is not the best mover and her menatl side is also not that great
- she doesn't have such great court sense or techinque to play with touch insted of power

maybe some things could improve but eveyr year many yunger girls come who have more weapons Paszek, Radwanska for example had more weapons than Maria I hope she can improve many things so she can be a real danger and force to me reconed with
- her serve could easily be improved especially second serve
- as well as her movement
- volley

maybe she could go stronger working harder in gym, but that could destroy ger beauty

But anyway I wish her good luck and great carrer :worship:


WTF. :confused:

Maria's serve is definitely improving and her first serve is starting to get her some free points.

And her movement and volleys aren't poor. Those are the strengths of her game.

She may not have the power of Sharapova or someone but she definitely can hit winners.

eye2eye
Feb 25th, 2007, 09:17 PM
I have seen some matches this season and her serve was poor especially second serve
she was making many errors at net
her movement is just normal but I wouldn't call it strenght maybe when considering Kim or Elena I woudl call it a strenght
yeah she can hit winners but only when she is it good position and deep into court

Natash.
Feb 25th, 2007, 11:53 PM
:confused:

What are you talking about? :lol:

She hardly made any errors when she was at the net. Most of them was from the baseline. Her movement may not be at the level of Elena and Kim but she's definitely above a lot of the girls her age.

About her serve, she's been getting at least a few aces in each match. It's definitely not poor.

matty
Apr 4th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Who's her coach? Maybe she should try sanchez-casal academy ,like kuznetsova and hantuchova. It's certainly helped Daniela...

Derek.
May 4th, 2007, 12:52 PM
This is one of the reasons why Maria is struggling.

She thinks she can hang at the baseline and win matches that way.

She needs to remember she got to the top 20 and won Beijing by using her variety and attacking the net.

JimM
May 4th, 2007, 08:05 PM
This is one of the reasons why Maria is struggling.

She thinks she can hang at the baseline and win matches that way.

She needs to remember she got to the top 20 and won Beijing by using her variety and attacking the net.

I agreee 100%

Last year she gave Martina a real fright losing 5-7 6-7.Hingis was full of praise saying she was "Cheeky" and "Mixed it up". So she must have been aggressive and fiesty. Why she has not continued playing like that puzzles me.

Even Hingis says that she is changing her game, coming of the baseline more and more net approaches.

Thumping the ball as hard as she can is just silly, and no solution. In fact it will just make more problems for her ie injuries Look at Clijsters and JuJu and all the other ball thumpers.

Placement and accuracy of shot are far more important. More work in the gym is not an answer either. She dosent need it.

Maria needs a coach who can help her develope tennis "Brain" put an edge on her game.

Ravsieg
May 4th, 2007, 10:37 PM
I agreee 100%

Last year she gave Martina a real fright losing 5-7 6-7.Hingis was full of praise saying she was "Cheeky" and "Mixed it up". So she must have been aggressive and fiesty. Why she has not continued playing like that puzzles me.

Even Hingis says that she is changing her game, coming of the baseline more and more net approaches.

Thumping the ball as hard as she can is just silly, and no solution. In fact it will just make more problems for her ie injuries Look at Clijsters and JuJu and all the other ball thumpers.

Placement and accuracy of shot are far more important. More work in the gym is not an answer either. She dosent need it.

Maria needs a coach who can help her develope tennis "Brain" put an edge on her game.

Henin isn't a ball thumper but I'll stick on the point.

Maria can't even outhit players outside the top 250. The match against Ozegovic proved that. I don't know what's wrong, but we all agree on the same.

eye2eye
May 7th, 2007, 12:41 PM
Geez Maria doesn't have game to bother in form players , she has no weapons. She has variety but doesn't have clue how to make good use of it. And her mentality doesn't help her to play such crafty game.
Right now her tactic is to run down any ball which simply doesn't work beacuse he isn't such a great mover.

She needs to develop some weapons and work on 2nd serve which is too weak.

But First of All new coach is needed as fast as possible I don't know why she doesn't want to hire anyone it is strange

eye2eye
May 7th, 2007, 12:45 PM
:confused:

What are you talking about? :lol:

She hardly made any errors when she was at the net. Most of them was from the baseline. Her movement may not be at the level of Elena and Kim but she's definitely above a lot of the girls her age.

About her serve, she's been getting at least a few aces in each match. It's definitely not poor.

she made some bad volley errors in that match not much but it wasn't clinical volley show.
Her movement is not that good considering the fact that she doesn't have major weapons so she must build her game about footwork and moving to some point. For example Ivanovic, Vaidisova may move worse but they have huge weapons to dicate play

Her first serve is ok , but her 2nd serve is serious weakness which need work. Svetlana was jumping all over her 2nd serves in AO.

Natash.
May 7th, 2007, 08:04 PM
she made some bad volley errors in that match not much but it wasn't clinical volley show.
Her movement is not that good considering the fact that she doesn't have major weapons so she must build her game about footwork and moving to some point. For example Ivanovic, Vaidisova may move worse but they have huge weapons to dicate play

Her first serve is ok , but her 2nd serve is serious weakness which need work. Svetlana was jumping all over her 2nd serves in AO.

Ah I see what your talking about now.

Kirilenko_Kamp
Mar 25th, 2008, 07:07 PM
This question is for those of you who have had the privilege to see Makiri play whether it's in person or on television lately. Have you noticed any changes/improvements in Makiri's game since she hired Nick Van Harpen as her coach??? I noticed from reports posted from her performances in past tourneys that she has been coming up to net more often than not. Has her serve got more pop to it??? Is her 2nd serve a liability??? Any improvements on FH/BH side??? Has she lost a step in foot speed??? I'm just curious on the progression of her game.;)

Krzysiu.
Mar 25th, 2008, 08:18 PM
This question is for those of you who have had the privilege to see Makiri play whether it's in person or on television lately. Have you noticed any changes/improvements in Makiri's game since she hired Nick Van Harpen as her coach??? I noticed from reports posted from her performances in past tourneys that she has been coming up to net more often than not. Has her serve got more pop to it??? Is her 2nd serve a liability??? Any improvements on FH/BH side??? Has she lost a step in foot speed??? I'm just curious on the progression of her game.;)

Yes... The main case here is that we could evaluate Maria's play just within her Aussie Open performance. Unfortunately, bellisima Russian girl didn't give us chance to see her playing longer than one (except of Dubai) match. So, our opinion couldn't be done objectivelly...

But Australian. Yes it was real progress after last year's play. I mean just her play in play. It was like another Maria who had gone on court and fighted! Fighting, not only showing technic, strong blows in the line etc... :yeah:

Makiri played using her head. She wasn't pretty grumpy 'Barbie' who takes her toys and surrenders when something goes not on her way (plastic description made by great Polish tennis expert) any more. Maria was matured tennis player in games vs Morigami, Chavke and Daniela. It was so close to reach the 1/4 and play vs Isia Radwanska. :shout:

I saw Maria vs Bondarenko in Dubai. Great will power!!! It was simply incredible. Makiri was fighting for every point with passion I haven't ever seen. Defend so many breakpoints when match was patched up... :clap2: Chapeau bas!

Disasters in Doha, Bangalore and Indian (Serbian :D) Wells were crying shames for Maria's mentality indeed. Now I could believe her poor performance there were caused only by phycical injury, knee or so. But how is it possible to lose few matches when it's obvius lead four me?

I'm certain that one win (against Morigami for example, second this season) would throw Maria on some other, better railways. She needs that win to rebuild herself.

We are with you, my sweet heart. :cat:

Natash.
Mar 26th, 2008, 03:08 AM
Yes, she has improved immensley. Her serve is much better. Second serve is still a weakness but not as much as it used to be. Groundstrokes seem to have more pop in them and she's playing smart. Not trying to out hit her opponent nor is she trying to simply get balls back in play.

Was driving Chakvetadze crazy with those angles. Really wore her out.

Natash.
Mar 26th, 2008, 03:13 AM
and I'm sorry :lol:

Radwanska DOES NOT have more weapons than Maria. :tape: :lol: Her game was never to run down every shot. When she is confident and in form, she can trouble the best. Watch her match against Hantuchova in Kolkata and see how WELL she was hitting the ball and how she was doing everything. Great match overall. Main problem is consistency and mental. Has nothing to do with her game except maybe her second serve.

Krzysiu.
Mar 26th, 2008, 02:58 PM
The most impressive Maria's matches I've seen were vs Chaki AO2008 and Bondarenko in Dubai. If she could merge elements of fight, strenght and intelligence in game we get top player.

I don't know (I wasn't interested in then) which reasons decided of Maria's successes in Kolkata, Seoul. I do know she's got earnests to be top player.

If she goes with her mentality on right railways, successes would come. She got passion. We got passion to support her. Our beautiful Makiri. :drool: