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drake3781
Nov 10th, 2006, 06:34 AM
'Jesus Camp' shuts down
November 9, 2006
The evangelical christian summer camp "Kids on Fire " featured in the documentary Jesus Camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Camp) will shut down for several years due to negative reactions to the film, negative e-mails, phone calls and letters. Many accuse camp leader Becky Fischer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becky_Fischer) of "brainwashing" the children.

The documentary showed camp leader Becky Fischer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becky_Fischer) acting as a "drill instructor" for young children preparing themselves for spiritual and political warfare. Fisher makes explicit comparisons between her camp and Islamist 'jihad training camps'. It also shows children praying before a photograph of President Bush.

The film included scenes with disgraced preacher Ted Haggard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard), who resigned his leadership of the National Association of Evangelicals after he was accused of having sex with a male prostitute and using methamphetamine.

Haggard has criticized the film as mocking the evangelical movement and for using his statement that “If the Evangelicals vote, they determine the election.” The film makers responded that "Pastor Haggard is the only person in Jesus Camp who has a problem with how he was portrayed" and stated that they had been careful to avoid his more inflammatory and divisive comments.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003365311_jesuscamp08.html

Scotso
Nov 10th, 2006, 06:43 AM
:help:

These extremists need to be kept far away from children.

Sam L
Nov 10th, 2006, 08:34 AM
Whilst I'm happy that this thing is shut down and hopefully for good, we must also remember that similar camps are happening with other religions in other parts of the world. The only difference is that we don't see about it in movies and people can't complain and harass to them.

So those people who are responsible for bringing this thing down, well done but your job is only half done.

Lord Nelson
Nov 10th, 2006, 12:01 PM
yeah like maddrasa camps in some parts of the world.

Infiniti2001
Nov 10th, 2006, 04:00 PM
GOOD! I so want to smack the leader of this camp. She fails to realize that she is doing more harm than good to these unsuspecting kids UGH.

LoveFifteen
Nov 10th, 2006, 04:08 PM
Noooooooo! :sobbing:

Where will I send my kids this summer?! :bigcry:

!<blocparty>!
Nov 10th, 2006, 05:36 PM
It also shows children praying before a photograph of President Bush.

Sweet Jesus. :help: I hope someone burns the entire thing down, too.

lakeway11
Nov 10th, 2006, 07:05 PM
"It also shows children praying before a photograph of President Bush"

this the Illuminati taking control over the churches...pray before Mary but not a scroundrel Skull & Bones Lucifer worshipping piece of scum

serenafan08
Nov 10th, 2006, 07:26 PM
I'm sort of torn on this one. I'm glad it shut down because of who was leading it, but kids still need Jesus. We just have to make sure our leaders have the right intentions and are living their lives right. You can't tell other people that they can't do certain things when you're doing every wrong thing too. There has to be a consistency.

rebel_ffighter
Nov 10th, 2006, 07:49 PM
damn what a pity:rolleyes: :lol:

Pasta-Na
Nov 10th, 2006, 08:35 PM
another thread from Jesus Drake :worship:

wta_zuperfann
Nov 10th, 2006, 09:07 PM
:help:

These extremists need to be kept far away from children.



AMEN!

StarDuvallGrant
Nov 10th, 2006, 09:12 PM
All children really need are good role models in their life, whether that's one or two parents who can provide a stable environment where they can develop notions of right/wrong and be productive.

griffin
Nov 10th, 2006, 09:26 PM
I'm sort of torn on this one. I'm glad it shut down because of who was leading it, but kids still need Jesus.

If it makes you feel any better, I doubt they're now going to Satan Camp instead.

I wonder if some of the "negative" reaction came from some of the kid's parents themselves.

Grachka
Nov 10th, 2006, 10:07 PM
but kids still need Jesus.
They do? There seems ample evidence that in fact, children can be brought up as sane, rational, well-rounded individuals within a completely non-religious context. So it implies that children don't need Jesus, rather that other people find it comforting to think that.

Some are born with Jesus, some achieve Jesus, but the vast majority have Jesus thrust upon them.

RVD
Nov 10th, 2006, 10:43 PM
They do? There seems ample evidence that in fact, children can be brought up as sane, rational, well-rounded individuals within a completely non-religious context. So it implies that children don't need Jesus, rather that other people find it comforting to think that.

Some are born with Jesus, some achieve Jesus, but the vast majority have Jesus thrust upon them.:worship: :worship:
I've often wondered where this "need" comes from? :scratch:
I've never needed anything but fresh air and water, to live. Everything else is my responsibility. :lol: ;)

Well, okay, so I need to cuddle every now and then too. :angel:

RVD
Nov 10th, 2006, 10:47 PM
All children really need are good role models in their life, whether that's one or two parents who can provide a stable environment where they can develop notions of right/wrong and be productive.Hallelujah!! :lol:

I'll never understand why parents don't take full responsibility for teaching their children about the good and bad concerning THIS world. The first thing they do is toss their children before a false prophet [which by the way is made up of the vast majority of ministers, pastors, priests, etc...] and then wash their hands of the kids, because..., "...God will provide and care for them". :(
NO! You, as the parent should care for them, FIRST!
Afterwards, allow the child to decide what direction he/she it wants to take when old and wise enough to make the decision. :shrug:

Places like these just goes to show how desperate many families are to connect to something ---anything--- with the word 'Jesus' in front of it.
Folks can be so ignorant that it pains me to think about it sometimes. :mad:
"It also shows children praying before a photograph of President Bush"My mother told me about this around a year ago, and I nearly hurled chunks from disgust. Religion, once again, has demonstrated itself to be a very dangerous tool.

Craigy
Nov 10th, 2006, 11:02 PM
:haha: