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samsung101
Nov 9th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Great writer for the NY Times William Safire hits it right on the head.

George W. Bush's 6th year election losses are very much on the
average.

He's almost right on the money w/the seats lost and won.

6th year, midterm, in a war, good economy...you lose seats.

Add to that the media bias, and it's even more average.

It wasn't a national mandate to do anything. It's a national
historical average to lose what the GOP lost. The GOP got
spoiled with anti-trend wins for several election cycles.
Your luck ran out. Now, get back to work.

Newt and Dick Armey - enough. Exactly why is it you're not
in Congress anymore...that would be scandal and you lost.



Safire nails it.

Stop with the whining GOP insiders on the Hill.
Stop pointing fingers, you all helped lose.
Lead like Democrats, Republicans won't vote for you.
Spend more time trying to be liked by the meida, Republicans
won't vote for you.
Lose touch with basic GOP principals, GOP voters will ignore you.

The Democrats were a strong minority, and they carried themselves
like they were in charge. Learn from their playbook, and lead
as the minority can. You can stall, you can disturb, you can
demand, you can disrupt....legislation isn't easy to get done.
No matter what.

Take your butt kicking, and regroup.

Read Safire too, he gets it.

Lord Nelson
Nov 9th, 2006, 07:03 PM
It is a normal thing to happen. Look at Clinton admin. where the republicans controlled Congress in his final years. Bush still won the re-election. :yeah:

Pureracket
Nov 9th, 2006, 07:30 PM
It is a normal thing to happen. Look at Clinton admin. where the republicans controlled Congress in his final years. Bush still won the re-election. :yeah:
Now, the facts that you don't reside in America nor are an American citizen are beginning to show.

SelesFan70
Nov 9th, 2006, 07:32 PM
It's perfectly normal to lose seats...but perfectly normal to feel disappointed in doing so as well. :)

samsung101
Nov 9th, 2006, 07:44 PM
I miss him a lot in the paper.

Dowd the liberal.
Safire the conservative.
They were a great duo.


Brooks just doesn't cut it.

*JR*
Nov 9th, 2006, 08:49 PM
Newt and Dick Armey - enough. Exactly why is it you're not
in Congress anymore...that would be scandal and you lost.

Gingrich and Armey stood for real ideas, whether one agreed with them or not. All Hastert and Delay stood for was maintaining their party in power, largely by approving of wasteful "pork barrell spending" by Republicans. You can't compare these two duo's.

samsung101
Nov 14th, 2006, 04:28 PM
Historically, yes.

Safire is absolutely right.

But, even he points out that it wasn't just history.
The GOP of 2004 to 2006 helped history along.



Perfect Storm for the Democrats, just as 1994 was a
perfect storm for the GOP.

Clinton's Democrats lost a huge number of seats, a
true historcal record in 1994. After the Waco, Texas
seige, the 1993 WTC attack, the Travelgate matter,
Vince Foster, firing all 93 justice dept. attorneys when
Reno took over, etc.

Somalia and Blackhawk Down in 93', and Whitewater
starting up.

Clinton's first two years in office were a huge jumbled
mess, and the GOP seized on his problems.

It was all fuel to the fire, and the GOP pulled out a huge
win in 1994.


But, also.........


Run poor candidates you lose. Run RINO's and
Republicrats you lose.

Try to re-elect Republicans who in Congress
voted and acted more like Democrats, you will lose.

Presume you will win, and run poor campaigns, and start
the 'real campaign' late in the game, you will lose.

Add the culmative effect of isolated scandals on the entire
party, and some candidates saying stupid things, i.e.,
George Allen, and you will lose.


States voted across the nation - once again:
no to gay marriage,
no to affirmative action,
no to higher taxes,
yes to english only.
Those were all once far right ideas, and now they are
the generally accepted views of the nation.