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SelesFan70
Nov 9th, 2006, 02:02 PM
Michael Steele for Republican National Chairman?
Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele (R), who came up just short yesterday in his Senate race against Rep. Ben Cardin (D), is mulling a bid for the chairmanship of the Republican National Committee, according to an informed GOP source.

Steele would not challenge current RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman, but chatter among Republican insiders is that Mehlman has made clear for months that he might not return to his current post.

"Chairman Mehlman will be making an announcement regarding his future at the RNC in the coming weeks," said RNC communication director Brian Jones.

Mehlman has made outreach to the African American community a priority during his time as head of the party, and Steele would be seen as a logical successor to that effort.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2006/11/steele_for_rnc.html

Kunal
Nov 9th, 2006, 02:06 PM
never heard of the guy....can be better than his replacement

SelesFan70
Nov 9th, 2006, 03:12 PM
never heard of the guy....can be better than his replacement

You've never heard of Michael Steele? :eek: He was the Republican candidate for Senate in Maryland. :)

samsung101
Nov 9th, 2006, 03:19 PM
Steele ran a great campaign. He was the underdog, the unknown,
and he almost got it done. He's a very good fundraiser, intelligent,
and he is very articulate.

He would be good.

Mehlman should step down, you lose, you go. McAuliffe did.
That's just the way things go.


The RNC needs a face w/a strong public voice. Mehlman isn't
that guy. He did okay, but, not good enough.


I like Steele.

What does it say about our nation that we did not elect
Ford,
Steele,
Swann,
or Blackwell.
Yet, even though I don't care for Ford, all four are very bright,
accomplished, political figures. Too bad. I hope Steele does stay
very involved in the RNC or gets a gig at The White House.

*JR*
Nov 9th, 2006, 03:53 PM
Mehlman should step down, you lose, you go. McAuliffe did.
That's just the way things go.
Sometime you should just stop posting for awhile, because you don't know WTF you're talking about. :rolleyes: Terry McAuliffe served his full 4 years as DNC Chair, and would have stepped down even if Kerry had won. (He was the Clintons' protege anyhow). I defy you to name any Chair of the DNC or RNC in the last half century who's served more than 4 consecutive years.

RunDown
Nov 9th, 2006, 04:44 PM
Bill Maher outed Ken Mehlman on Larry King last night...I think the chances of him stepping down have increased :tape:

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 9th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Steele ran a great campaign. He was the underdog, the unknown,
and he almost got it done. He's a very good fundraiser, intelligent,
and he is very articulate.

He would be good.

Mehlman should step down, you lose, you go. McAuliffe did.
That's just the way things go.


The RNC needs a face w/a strong public voice. Mehlman isn't
that guy. He did okay, but, not good enough.


I like Steele.

What does it say about our nation that we did not elect
Ford,
Steele,
Swann,
or Blackwell.
Yet, even though I don't care for Ford, all four are very bright,
accomplished, political figures. Too bad. I hope Steele does stay
very involved in the RNC or gets a gig at The White House.

What it says about our nation when it comes to Blackwell, Swann, or Steele is that black voters are not going to fall for a black Republican.
Black celebrities in the Maryland area went on urban radio and told people that Steele wasn't the right choice for black voters.
Blacks did not like how Blackwell dealt with the 2004 elections in Ohio.
Swann did not go into the urban areas looking for the black votes at all.

If the black Republicans are going to do the same thing as the white Republicans then black voters are not going to vote for the black candidate just because he's black.

In the case of Ford, the Republicans went after Ford with racist ads and it worked.
Ford was the better candidate.

In the case of the other three, they weren't.

SelesFan70
Nov 9th, 2006, 05:24 PM
Bill Maher outed Ken Mehlman on Larry King last night...I think the chances of him stepping down have increased :tape:

There have been rumors galore that Mehlman is gay. :secret: I think it's pretty obvious, but I am well-trained to pick out fags :secret:

SelesFan70
Nov 9th, 2006, 05:25 PM
What it says about our nation when it comes to Blackwell, Swann, or Steele is that black voters are not going to fall for a black Republican.
Black celebrities in the Maryland area went on urban radio and told people that Steele wasn't the right choice for black voters.
Blacks did not like how Blackwell dealt with the 2004 elections in Ohio.
Swann did not go into the urban areas looking for the black votes at all.

If the black Republicans are going to do the same thing as the white Republicans then black voters are not going to vote for the black candidate just because he's black.

In the case of Ford, the Republicans went after Ford with racist ads and it worked.
Ford was the better candidate.

In the case of the other three, they weren't.

For the Republicans, maybe... :lol: He used all the talking points...god, country, abortion, and taxes.

roarke
Nov 9th, 2006, 06:49 PM
What it says about our nation when it comes to Blackwell, Swann, or Steele is that black voters are not going to fall for a black Republican.
Black celebrities in the Maryland area went on urban radio and told people that Steele wasn't the right choice for black voters.
Blacks did not like how Blackwell dealt with the 2004 elections in Ohio.
Swann did not go into the urban areas looking for the black votes at all.

If the black Republicans are going to do the same thing as the white Republicans then black voters are not going to vote for the black candidate just because he's black.

In the case of Ford, the Republicans went after Ford with racist ads and it worked.
Ford was the better candidate.

In the case of the other three, they weren't.


It does say a lot about Tennesse though. They would rather elect by color than by fairness and the ability to lead. He used that white hooker in the ad to appeal to the racist mentality that pervades that state.

samsung101
Nov 9th, 2006, 06:54 PM
I watched some of his debate w/Cardin, and he was excellent.

He's a tremendous figure.

The party would be smart to use him in some way, or The White
House. Time for some new faces.

samsung101
Nov 9th, 2006, 07:00 PM
I saw the ad, that wasn't racist.

The Playmates were white. If they had used a black Playmate,
would that have been OK?

Sexist, lowest common thread, sure...but,not racist.


Did you hear and see what they were saying about Steele, Blackwell,
and Swann? Democratic Party bloggers used blackface, shoeshine,
lots of slime, and they publicly said things that were overtly racist
about them - for months. The locals in PA and Maryland and
Ohio were after these guys with everything they had, including
racist comments and tactics.


Ford's past caught up to him. His family line of scandals in politics
were brought back to the news cycle. That did him in, and his
silly stalking of Corker too on camera. The guy did what Allen did,
he found defeat from being ahead early on. Don't worry, he'll
try again. He garnered a lot of votes. He'll have to beat Tim McGraw
first. He wants to be a Senator, and he's a Democrat.


I'm not saying Ford himself had any scandals, but, the GOP did remind
voters what the Ford family had been up to for years in the state.


The GOP put up a record number of hispanic, black, asian, and female
candidates in 2006. The hispanic Democrats across the nation made
big strides too.

Lord Nelson
Nov 9th, 2006, 07:08 PM
It does say a lot about Tennesse though. They would rather elect by color than by fairness and the ability to lead. He used that white hooker in the ad to appeal to the racist mentality that pervades that state.

So Ford lost because of racism? What kind of excuse is that? I think that Ford was a great candidate but come on lay off with these type of excuses.

Helen Lawson
Nov 9th, 2006, 07:12 PM
I've never heard of him, but your post brings back fond memories of 1980s XXX star Tom Steele.

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 9th, 2006, 07:24 PM
I saw the ad, that wasn't racist.

The Playmates were white. If they had used a black Playmate,
would that have been OK?

Sexist, lowest common thread, sure...but,not racist.


Did you hear and see what they were saying about Steele, Blackwell,
and Swann? Democratic Party bloggers used blackface, shoeshine,
lots of slime, and they publicly said things that were overtly racist
about them - for months. The locals in PA and Maryland and
Ohio were after these guys with everything they had, including
racist comments and tactics.


Ford's past caught up to him. His family line of scandals in politics
were brought back to the news cycle. That did him in, and his
silly stalking of Corker too on camera. The guy did what Allen did,
he found defeat from being ahead early on. Don't worry, he'll
try again. He garnered a lot of votes. He'll have to beat Tim McGraw
first. He wants to be a Senator, and he's a Democrat.


I'm not saying Ford himself had any scandals, but, the GOP did remind
voters what the Ford family had been up to for years in the state.


The GOP put up a record number of hispanic, black, asian, and female
candidates in 2006. The hispanic Democrats across the nation made
big strides too.

I did not hear one racist comment when it came to Lynn Swann.
On the other hand if Swann was smart there are some questionable things that Rendell has said as the mayor of Philadelphia that there happened to be videotape of.
Lynn Swann came to Philadelphia ONCE.
Even Santorum had a couple of debates at the Constitution Center in downtown Philadelphia.
So you telling me what I know in my own state is laughable.
He tried to do what these Republicans senators who lost tried as well.
You can't win a state by just going to the strong party counties and districts, you have to take a chance and go into the places where there is strong opposition.

I have heard some things about Blackwell.
I felt he deserved being called an Uncle Tom though after the 2004 elections in Ohio.

I have heard things about Steele but the black celebrities went after his policies not the man himself.
He was always treated with respect when I've seen him on Bill Maher compared to other Republicans.

When it comes to Ford, would it have been different if it was a black playmate?
In a conservative state like Tennessee HELL YES.
We're talking about a state who outlawed the theory of evolution last century.
Racism is still alive and well in Tennessee along with many other outdated ideologies.

Scotso
Nov 10th, 2006, 02:38 AM
Mehlman is a complete douche.

Volcana
Nov 10th, 2006, 03:35 AM
African-Americans are, by far, the most loyal Democratic voters. An African-American face on the Republican party would go some of the way to reversing the Republican Party's well-deserved reputation for tolerating white-supremacist elements.

Scotso
Nov 10th, 2006, 05:44 AM
African-Americans are, by far, the most loyal Democratic voters. An African-American face on the Republican party would go some of the way to reversing the Republican Party's well-deserved reputation for tolerating white-supremacist elements.

I doubt it. It would probably just antagonize them more.

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 10th, 2006, 06:00 AM
I doubt it. It would probably just antagonize them more.

I think it depends but right now Michael Steele is the best choice if the Republicans wanted a black man as the head of the RNC.

At the same time I don't feel that Michael Steele is that qualified.
He was the Lieutenant Governor of Maryland for four years.
That's really all he's done.
Then again a person doesn't have to do that much to be head of the RNC compared to the DNC.

In that case it might anatagonize because I'm sure many black voters don't know the history of the people in RNC but at least know Howard Dean was a governor and a possible democratic candidate for president before being head of the DNC.

*JR*
Nov 10th, 2006, 11:52 AM
Lynn Swann came to Philadelphia ONCE.
He was waiting for a long pass from Terry Bradshaw like in their Super Bowl days. ;)

wta_zuperfann
Nov 10th, 2006, 12:17 PM
Who is Steele?

One week he says the war is a hopelessly lost cause. Next week he says he is confident Bush will win his war. The week after that he again says the war is a lost cause.

Poor dupe can't make up his twisted mind.

samsung101
Nov 10th, 2006, 03:21 PM
I hope he gets this job, or a key and visible Cabinet position.
Not HUD, that's like being in the dungeon.

I'd love to see him as Sec. of Labor or even Homeland Security,
something visible. I wouldn't mind seeing him head a White
House role that doesn't need Senate approval too.

He's be a great fundraiser, and that's the key RNC job. He'd
create a new team, and they need a new team.

If not him, I'd like to see Jeb Bush take the job.

He is extremely articulate and personable. He came from nowhere
in a Democratic state, to almost beat a well known opponent. The
guy was able to get a lot of Democratic black leaders to support
him, and that was a first.

You reward a showing like that. You don't ignore it.

Paneru
Nov 10th, 2006, 03:27 PM
For the Republicans, maybe... :lol: He used all the talking points...god, country, abortion, and taxes.

So true, because know God, country, abortion, and
taxes mean nothing to you if you're not a Republican. :)

Vlover
Nov 10th, 2006, 04:04 PM
It's interesting that Steel distanced himself from the Republicans and Bush for the whole campaign. His banner even had a banner stating Steele Democrat and what's even more interesting if he was a Democrat he would have won. Anyway how is he going to push the GOP's agenda without committing to it.

Being black is not enough to attract Africans Americans though as there has to be favourable policies which is lacking in the GOP.

lizchris
Nov 10th, 2006, 04:31 PM
I hope he gets this job, or a key and visible Cabinet position.
Not HUD, that's like being in the dungeon.

I'd love to see him as Sec. of Labor or even Homeland Security,
something visible. I wouldn't mind seeing him head a White
House role that doesn't need Senate approval too.

He's be a great fundraiser, and that's the key RNC job. He'd
create a new team, and they need a new team.

If not him, I'd like to see Jeb Bush take the job.

He is extremely articulate and personable. He came from nowhere
in a Democratic state, to almost beat a well known opponent. The
guy was able to get a lot of Democratic black leaders to support
him, and that was a first.

You reward a showing like that. You don't ignore it.


You need to go back and read the Constituion. The President can no longer appoint siblings (biological, adopted, half or step) to cabinet posts. This was written into the Consitution after Kennedy appointed his brother to the Attorney Gerneral post in 1961.

lizchris
Nov 10th, 2006, 04:41 PM
I saw the ad, that wasn't racist. (1)

The Playmates were white. If they had used a black Playmate,
would that have been OK? (2)

Sexist, lowest common thread, sure...but,not racist. (3)


Did you hear and see what they were saying about Steele, Blackwell,
and Swann? Democratic Party bloggers used blackface, shoeshine,
lots of slime, and they publicly said things that were overtly racist
about them - for months. The locals in PA and Maryland and
Ohio were after these guys with everything they had, including
racist comments and tactics.


Ford's past caught up to him. His family line of scandals in politics
were brought back to the news cycle. That did him in, and his
silly stalking of Corker too on camera. The guy did what Allen did,
he found defeat from being ahead early on. Don't worry, he'll
try again. He garnered a lot of votes. He'll have to beat Tim McGraw
first. He wants to be a Senator, and he's a Democrat. (4)


I'm not saying Ford himself had any scandals, but, the GOP did remind
voters what the Ford family had been up to for years in the state.(4)


The GOP put up a record number of hispanic, black, asian, and female
candidates in 2006. The hispanic Democrats across the nation made
big strides too.(5)


(1) The ad was racist and only a moron would say otherwise. Even some in the the Republican didn't like the ad.
(2) Yes
(3) Lowest common demoninator would be appopriate to descirbe some whites in Tenessee
(4) You contradicted yourself with this statement. You said that Ford's past caught up with him but you admitted he didn't have any skeletons in his closet. Try to be more consistent next time.
(5) All eight blacks the RNC put for election lost. The Democrts put up 41 blacks and most of them won. That says mroe about the Republican party and its voters than anything.

Vlover
Nov 10th, 2006, 04:59 PM
All eight blacks the RNC put for election lost. The Democrts put up 41 blacks and most of them won. That says mroe about the Republican party and its voters than anything.[/QUOTE]

The GOP just doesn't seem to get it. This has to do with their policies and rhetoric that cause so much distrust especially with African Americans not skin color. The Dems are always the party of progress and diversity. The Dems have Blacks, Jews, Muslim, Whites, Women and Gays working together. The lone Black senator and now first female speaker.:bounce:

The GOP should turn down the rhetoric especially from people like Rush, Coulter and the others who just hate on people and start reaching out if they want to build a more diverse party.

samsung101
Nov 10th, 2006, 05:04 PM
I'm not saying you don't have a right to your view, I just
disagree w/it. I saw the Ford ad, and it seemed aimed at his
Playboy ways, more than his race. Fact is the Playboy image
probably helped him w/some voters.

Didn't see or hear of racist attacks on three GOP candidates.


Of course you didn't, would the mainstream media promote that
in any way?


Rep. Hoyer - 'slavishly' Steele.

Just look up what black political leaders in individual states have
said about black GOP'ers, and you'll find a nice supply of very
offensive comments based on race.

Democratic Party 527 groups, and Democratic Party bloggers
and even politicians did in fact print, and state racist things
about all three black GOP candidates.

In campaigns that cost over $2 billion dollars, the internet
and alternative media was a huge force, and the DNC
backed and backing locations were vicious towards these
guys.

From blackfaces to uncle tom comments to bootlicker to
the 'n' word being used about them, by other black political
leaders in their states, Sambo, much as Condi Rice has been
a symbol of attacks as well as being the House 'N', house slave,
etc. It's not new. It shouldn't be okay either. Disagree w/them,
but, not at that level of discourse, or lack of it. That isn't
even counting things Ted Rall has done.

Sorry, they were attacked. Just as Lieberman was about his
Jewish faith, and his wife too.

samsung101
Nov 10th, 2006, 05:07 PM
Did I hear correctly he has said he would do it. I hope so.

He ran a great campaign. He raised a lot of money. He is a
fan of fiscal conservatism. He is extremely articulate. Something
Mehlman was not. He is media friendly. Again, something
Mehlman is not.

You lose, you get off the mat, and get back to work. That's
what the RNC has to do.

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 10th, 2006, 06:53 PM
I'm not saying you don't have a right to your view, I just
disagree w/it. I saw the Ford ad, and it seemed aimed at his
Playboy ways, more than his race. Fact is the Playboy image
probably helped him w/some voters.

Didn't see or hear of racist attacks on three GOP candidates.


Of course you didn't, would the mainstream media promote that
in any way?


Rep. Hoyer - 'slavishly' Steele.

Just look up what black political leaders in individual states have
said about black GOP'ers, and you'll find a nice supply of very
offensive comments based on race.

Democratic Party 527 groups, and Democratic Party bloggers
and even politicians did in fact print, and state racist things
about all three black GOP candidates.

In campaigns that cost over $2 billion dollars, the internet
and alternative media was a huge force, and the DNC
backed and backing locations were vicious towards these
guys.

From blackfaces to uncle tom comments to bootlicker to
the 'n' word being used about them, by other black political
leaders in their states, Sambo, much as Condi Rice has been
a symbol of attacks as well as being the House 'N', house slave,
etc. It's not new. It shouldn't be okay either. Disagree w/them,
but, not at that level of discourse, or lack of it. That isn't
even counting things Ted Rall has done.

Sorry, they were attacked. Just as Lieberman was about his
Jewish faith, and his wife too.

I did not hear one racist comment when it came to Lynn Swann.
On the other hand if Swann was smart there are some questionable things that Rendell has said as the mayor of Philadelphia that there happened to be videotape of.
Lynn Swann came to Philadelphia ONCE.
Even Santorum had a couple of debates at the Constitution Center in downtown Philadelphia.
So you telling me what I know in my own state is laughable.
He tried to do what these Republicans senators who lost tried as well.
You can't win a state by just going to the strong party counties and districts, you have to take a chance and go into the places where there is strong opposition.

I have heard some things about Blackwell.
I felt he deserved being called an Uncle Tom though after the 2004 elections in Ohio.

I have heard things about Steele but the black celebrities went after his policies not the man himself.
He was always treated with respect when I've seen him on Bill Maher compared to other Republicans.



Did you even read a thing I wrote before reguritating this bullshyt of yours out again?

I don't listen to the mainstream media.

1)
There was nothing written about Lynn Swann that would be considered a racist remark made by the Democratic party for Ed Rendell.
That means if you read a blog or something about Lynn Swann that you consider racist then that was one person who said it.
2)
Half of the 40% of the votes that Lynn Swann got in the election came from Northern Pennsylvania.
Northern Pennsylvania if you don't happen to know is Confederate country.
If they didn't say a thing about Lynn Swann, then the odds of the Democrats saying something questionable is pretty slim.
At the same time Lynn Swann did not go out of his way to get any black voters behind him, at all.
Some would say he even avoided them.
So if someone did call him an Uncle Tom they would be correct in calling him that according to the definition of Uncle Tom.
3)
He wasn't qualified compared to Ed Rendell.
HE WASN'T GOING TO WIN PERIOD.
The Democrats did not have to stoop that low to get Ed Rendell to win.
Ed Rendell was a D.A, the mayor of Philadelphia, head of the DNC, and governor of Pennsylvania for two years.
What did Lynn Swann do politically before this election?
Not a damn thing.

mykarma
Nov 11th, 2006, 01:05 PM
Did I hear correctly he has said he would do it. I hope so.

He ran a great campaign. He raised a lot of money. He is a
fan of fiscal conservatism. He is extremely articulate. Something
Mehlman was not. He is media friendly. Again, something
Mehlman is not.

You lose, you get off the mat, and get back to work. That's
what the RNC has to do.
I heard he said "no".