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alfonsojose
Oct 27th, 2006, 06:57 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo: Congrats to Martina Hingis :D

barryproudfoot
Oct 27th, 2006, 06:57 PM
:D :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

take that haters! :kiss:

Babolatpro880
Oct 27th, 2006, 07:07 PM
I don't think it's absolutely sure as Schnyder hasn't been eliminated from Linz yet.

abayen
Oct 27th, 2006, 07:27 PM
Actually she will. Hasselt draw is out. Patty and Kim are scheduled to meet in the semis.

If Patty loses that semi, she can make at most 195+55 = 250 points, so her total would be 1866

If Patty wins that semi, the most that Kim can make would be 1860+55=1915

Hingis, in either scenario would be ahead with 1926.

So Congratulations Hingis!


I don't think it's absolutely sure as Schnyder hasn't been eliminated from Linz yet.

doris_hdz
Oct 27th, 2006, 07:29 PM
:woohoo:
Congratulations Martina Hingis!
:clap2:

RJWCapriati
Oct 27th, 2006, 07:53 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

RR-87
Oct 27th, 2006, 07:55 PM
:woohoo:

LoveFifteen
Oct 27th, 2006, 08:21 PM
And people said she'd never make it back into the Top 100 again! Then it was never back in Top 50. Then it was "she'll be a mediocre Top 30 player". etc etc.

hingisGOAT
Oct 27th, 2006, 08:49 PM
And people said she'd never make it back into the Top 100 again! Then it was never back in Top 50. Then it was "she'll be a mediocre Top 30 player". etc etc.


truth. and now she's a top 8 player, and guess what? she'll be seeded at all the tournaments where she has points to defend, meaning that the top 5 is not too far away at all :eek:

TiK-Tee
Oct 27th, 2006, 08:51 PM
Yeah Hingis :banana:

barryproudfoot
Oct 27th, 2006, 08:51 PM
truth. and now she's a top 8 player, and guess what? she'll be seeded at all the tournaments where she has points to defend, meaning that the top 5 is not too far away at all :eek:

she may even be top 5 at the end of the year :D

Justine Fan
Oct 27th, 2006, 08:54 PM
Fantastic achievement! :worship:

Congratulations Martina!

TomTennis
Oct 27th, 2006, 09:07 PM
I hope she wins it. She is the only one Im rooting for at the YEC :bounce:

barryproudfoot
Oct 27th, 2006, 09:09 PM
I hope she wins it. She is the only one Im rooting for at the YEC :bounce:

:D

hingisGOAT
Oct 27th, 2006, 09:11 PM
I hope she wins it. She is the only one Im rooting for at the YEC :bounce:

she has a great opportunity. hingis has a fantastic shot to beat any of the girls with their current form. the only one she needs to avoid is sharapova :scared: although if they do play, i'm sure hingis will have a trick or two up her sleeve :devil:

Ben.
Oct 27th, 2006, 10:40 PM
congrats martina :worship: a fantastic accomplishment. now go out there & take it 2 the remaining seven.

LoveFifteen
Oct 27th, 2006, 10:43 PM
I doubt Martina will win the YEC, but I will be rooting my heart out! :hearts:

barryproudfoot
Oct 27th, 2006, 10:45 PM
I doubt Martina will win the YEC, but I will be rooting my heart out! :hearts:

she has a chance, what with most of the players recently suffering injuries, and because she is starting to play well again :D
Come on Hingis, you can do it! :hearts: :D :cool: :kiss:

alwayshingis
Oct 27th, 2006, 10:46 PM
I'm just waiting for the year to end so we can resurrect the thread where people were predicting where Martina would be at the end of this year. I predicted 6-10, so I will be patting myself on the back then.

DannerCal
Oct 27th, 2006, 10:46 PM
just making the Elite YEC is huge! Considering that she went from unranked to #8 in the world is huge! Extatic for her!!

Buitenzorg
Oct 27th, 2006, 11:04 PM
I am happy for Hingis as well

Way before she started her comeback tournament at Gold Coast, I have predicted she will be inside TOP 8 at the end of 2006 ;)

tennnisfannn
Oct 28th, 2006, 12:06 AM
good work martina, i will b erootin for either her or amelie ofr the title.

spencercarlos
Oct 28th, 2006, 12:24 AM
she has a great opportunity. hingis has a fantastic shot to beat any of the girls with their current form. the only one she needs to avoid is sharapova :scared: although if they do play, i'm sure hingis will have a trick or two up her sleeve :devil:
i don´t think so, she should play a lot better than the past couple of months of she wants to win 2 matches there (even one).

mboyle
Oct 28th, 2006, 12:34 AM
She should beat:
Schnyder (if she makes it)
Dementieva
Petrova

She could beat:
Clijsters (depends on the wrist)
Kuznetsova
J2H (long shot, but this is indoors, which suits Martina and is Justine's least favorite condition)

She's not beating:
Mauresmo
Sharapova

-Sonic-
Oct 28th, 2006, 12:37 AM
I think its an enormous accomplishment to come back from being unranked and to achieve what she has - - - so many 'amazing' talents have done jack shit in comparison to Martina.

No-one should have the sense to bash her achievements this year, or poke fun at what could happen to her at the YEC. Whether she wins 5 matches there or 0, getting there from where she was a year ago is amazing.

ewbangkok
Oct 28th, 2006, 01:01 AM
Hingis will make it to YEC......better games than SChnyder

Barlos
Oct 28th, 2006, 01:03 AM
Great news :) I'm very happy for her and really looking forward to the YEC now! 10 and a half days to go ;)

A great comeback year for Martina.

jenny161185
Oct 28th, 2006, 01:19 AM
yay!!!! :) :) :)

Si_Hi
Oct 28th, 2006, 01:28 AM
Congrats martina!

swissmisshingis
Oct 28th, 2006, 01:51 AM
yay! Hingis congrats woot woot :woohoo:

kittyking
Oct 28th, 2006, 02:00 AM
At the beginning of the year I thought Martina would struggle to make the top 20, particularly losing to I think it was Flavia Pennetta in one of the earlier tournaments back in Australia. Im so proud of her!

Marcus Jordan
Oct 28th, 2006, 02:15 AM
I really like Martina Hingis. :)

At Gold Coast I was predicting top 5 by the end of this year just for the record. :)

supergrunt
Oct 28th, 2006, 03:08 AM
Go Marti :D :armed: !

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 28th, 2006, 04:08 AM
Damn, I should have bet. I knew she would.

:wavey: CONGRATS! :bounce:

go hingis
Oct 28th, 2006, 05:28 AM
Great Achievement From 9999 To World Number 8 and into the race. I think she has a chance of beating everyone there if she's playing her Aggresive game thruought the tournament.

Hingie
Oct 28th, 2006, 05:28 AM
Honestly though people - she belongs at the YEC.

She's had some dodgy performances this year, but who really deserves to be there ahead of her? Schnyder... i don't think so. Safina... nope.

Sure she's a fair way away from really challenging Sharapova and JHH but this is top 8 and she thoroughly deserves her spot. Talents like hers don't just go away, regardless if you leave the game for a few years.

Will be good to catch some of her YEC matches - she does play well indoors.

pooh14
Oct 28th, 2006, 05:36 AM
although i prefer official confirmation before celebrating, but i cant wait :D
as few have said in this thread before, alot of them didnt give her chances in top50, when she broke it, they say she wont make it in top30, then top20, then top10...now she is already here.......

though her second half of the season is not as good as everyone expected, i think it was due to fatigue and mental tiredness as she was out of tour for more then 3 years. next year she would be more prepared. besides the first half of the year she was busy playing just to get her ranking up.
now with her ranking already in top10, i think she can aim for slams.

on her day, i think hingis would give everybody a run, including amelie, henin and maria.

Marcus Jordan
Oct 28th, 2006, 05:58 AM
Remember Agassi was ranked 141 in 1997 and then won 6 titles in 1998 but never passed the 4th round in the slams? Well in 1999 he won the French Open, won the US Open and made the final of Wimbledon (and won the Aust Open 2000 beating Sampras in the semi). Look for Martina to do the same. And fittingly it will be the 10-year-anniversary of 1997.

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Oct 28th, 2006, 06:04 AM
Hingis can beat Petrova, Dementieva, Mauresmo, Kuznetsova

I can't see her beating Sharapova, Clijsters or Henin

Marcus Jordan
Oct 28th, 2006, 06:34 AM
MARTINA almost beat Clijsters in the Oz Open and a very close 1st set (tie-breaker) at Roland Garros. MARTINA thrashed Sharapova once this year. Henin is the toughest to beat, but Henin has looked vulnerable lately.

jamesuk
Oct 28th, 2006, 08:11 AM
Also the other 2 matches vs Sharapova, although straight set defeats, were pretty close, especially the one in Dubai I think, that one was a LOT of fun to watch, just a few points between them, if I remember correctly. She also SHOULD haveeaten Mauresmo on clay at some point this year.
For me, the biggest problem would be Justine, because of the mixture of her game and mental strength. The rest, based on what we have seen this year, are more winnable

Ben.
Oct 28th, 2006, 08:47 AM
think martina's biggest obstacles r from the 2 belgians, especially kim who has beaten her 3 times this year without losing 2 her plus amelie & maria.

Uranus
Oct 28th, 2006, 08:55 AM
What if Petrova withdraws...

Patty will get promoted to be a Top two seed and avoid Kim ;)

Yeah, you're right. Nothing is done yet.

Hingie
Oct 28th, 2006, 08:58 AM
Indoors does seem to bring out the best in her though. She's had great results at the YEC in the past.

I think Juju and Kim remain her biggest challenge. She's going to have to find some aggressive consistent A-class form to beat these two - she's had close matches with the rest and can score some wins at Madrid i think.

Martian Stacey
Oct 28th, 2006, 09:00 AM
Honestly though people - she belongs at the YEC.

She's had some dodgy performances this year, but who really deserves to be there ahead of her? Schnyder... i don't think so. Safina... nope.

Sure she's a fair way away from really challenging Sharapova and JHH but this is top 8 and she thoroughly deserves her spot. Talents like hers don't just go away, regardless if you leave the game for a few years.

Will be good to catch some of her YEC matches - she does play well indoors.
You summed it up perfectly :worship:

Congrats to Martina on an awesome year :worship: Good luck at the YEC (assuming nothing changes with the Hasselt draw and she does qualify)

Ben.
Oct 28th, 2006, 09:19 AM
Don't worry Martina deserves 2 be in the YEC. if some people can't see that well obviously they have got a problem with martina.

Brαm
Oct 28th, 2006, 09:24 AM
Henin is the toughest to beat, but Henin has looked vulnerable lately.
Vulnerable?? :haha: She hasn't lost before the final in any tournament since April!!! She's won 12 or her last 13 matches!

If that's vulnerable then... :lol:

Ben.
Oct 28th, 2006, 10:01 AM
There's no doubt that they'll be a question mark on justine's comdition when she plays the YEC, but i wouldn't exactly say that she is vulnerable though. i'am sure that she will give at least 100% when playin the YEC, every1 wants 2 give it their all there even if they're dead tired.

Martian Jeza
Oct 28th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Vulnerable?? :haha: She hasn't lost before the final in any tournament since April!!! She's won 12 or her last 13 matches!

If that's vulnerable then... :lol:

When you only play when it's convenient, not that difficult ! She managed to play only 12 tournies this year ( the 4 GS included : it means only 8 if you take off the GS events ) : What a champion :eek:

Martian Jeza
Oct 28th, 2006, 11:01 AM
Personnaly, I don't expect that much from Martina at the YEC but who knows... It will be very hard for her there but the qualification is the crop of the cream for Martina as she made a great comeback although I'm not that happy with her performances during the 2nd part of the season : a bit harsh maybe but hey I'm a die hard fan of Martina Hingis, not an average player... ;)

Brαm
Oct 28th, 2006, 12:11 PM
When you only play when it's convenient, not that difficult ! She managed to play only 12 tournies this year ( the 4 GS included : it means only 8 if you take off the GS events ) : What a champion :eek:what the hell do you always mean by "when it's convenient"??? :rolleyes: What do you want her to do then? Play every fucking week? :tape: The fact that she's leading the Race to the YEC with only 12 tournaments says enough for me: Justine is one big champion :D

pooh14
Oct 28th, 2006, 01:54 PM
hhmmm,
about statement on henin, erm, i think players like henin, william sisters are always dangerous even after a very long break.
anyway, i hope hingis does well in YEC. though i do not expect her to beat maria and maybe amelie, i hope she can beat the others. if she plays her game, she is sure to beat at least these players...

madonjoe
Oct 28th, 2006, 02:39 PM
I think Madrid will be a perfect practice for Martina. She will get to play at least 3 Top players and hone her skills. Her goal is not to win the whole thing but to get some win and feel backs against Top Guns.

Marcus Jordan
Oct 28th, 2006, 02:40 PM
i expect martina hingis to beat everybody in the YEC.

PLP
Oct 28th, 2006, 06:10 PM
I think Madrid will be a perfect practice for Martina. She will get to play at least 3 Top players and hone her skills. Her goal is not to win the whole thing to get some win and feel backs against Top Guns.

I agree! I think this tournament is the perfect chance for Martina to really go for it against the best players and see where she can improve for next year. Maria, Sveta, and Justine will give Hingis the most challenge but I like her chances against the others.
No, I don't expect her to win the whole thing, but neither do I expect her to lose all of her matches! Congrats on a very good year Marti! :bounce:

barryproudfoot
Oct 28th, 2006, 06:18 PM
i expect martina hingis to beat everybody in the YEC.

as do I :D

bring it on, bitches :armed:

Chewie
Oct 28th, 2006, 11:48 PM
Yeah, now that Patty lost, it's time to congratulate Martina for qualifying. Kim too.

Hopefully Martina will play Petrova, they haven't played against eachother this year.
Against Henin should be interesting too, only played in the beginning of the year.

alfonsojose
Oct 28th, 2006, 11:58 PM
Martina :yeah: :rolls:

She should play without fears :D

spencercarlos
Oct 29th, 2006, 02:23 AM
MARTINA almost beat Clijsters in the Oz Open and a very close 1st set (tie-breaker) at Roland Garros. MARTINA thrashed Sharapova once this year. Henin is the toughest to beat, but Henin has looked vulnerable lately.
Talk about being delusional, Sorry wtasuperman but you sound ridiculous in every way Hingis has not come close to beat Clijsters this year, yeah it was a three setter but Hingis was down all the time in that third set. Yes Martina trashed Sharapova once this year, since then the last two times it has been Sharapova who has beating Hingis in two confortable straight set matches, and you forget Hingis played an impecable match against Sharapova there, serving espectacularly and playing really agressive, which hasnot been the pattern from Hingis lately.
Henin looked vulnerable lately? that´s beyond the stupid (sorry man), but the girl has reached all 4 GS finals this year, and has beaten everybody else on the tour, she has looked shaky in those slam finals but that´s been pretty much it.
If someone has looked vulnerable its been Hingis, ever since her trashing defeat to Ivanovic in Montreal, followed by another trashing against Razzano at the Usopen, lost to Mirza as well so, despite i deeply respect all of this players, there is no way you can´t contrast Hingis struggle with Henin´s struggle at the grand slam finals she has played this year. Henin has been (for me the best player in the world) 4 GS finals, winning one, far few defeats than Mauresmo.
The only players that i can see Hingis having some chance are Mauresmo (based on her late form), Dementieva, Petrova, Kuznetsova, and that will be if and only if Hingis is able to play agressive tennis, which she has shown she can in some matches against the top players this year, but still not consistent enough to beat them time and time again.

Marcus Jordan
Oct 29th, 2006, 03:02 AM
^^^ You are the delusional one if you think the AO QF wasn't close! The 3rd set was very close in all games. And Hingis was outplaying Clijsters in the RG 1st set and unlucky to lose that set in a TB, and was suffering severely from the flu. In both matches Hingis was extremely unlucky. As for Sharapova, well Hingis was playing her best in the first part of the year and that is why she blew Sharapova off he court. Hingis at her best can beat Sharapova. The only player in the top 8 that has a clear edge over Hingis is Henin, but Henin in the 2nd half of the year has looked unconvincing and made a plethora of unforced errors (though against very weak opposition so it didn't matter).

spencercarlos
Oct 29th, 2006, 04:26 AM
^^^ You are the delusional one if you think the AO QF wasn't close! The 3rd set was very close in all games.
???????
Im not saying AO 2006 vs Kim was not close, it indeed was a 6-4 in the third set match, but to say Hingis was on brink of beating Kim that day is ridiculous, Hingis was always behind a break in the third set.

And Hingis was outplaying Clijsters in the RG 1st set and unlucky to lose that set in a TB, and was suffering severely from the flu. In both matches Hingis was extremely unlucky.
Ok now you are lying and inventing things that never happened. Once again in the first set Hingis vs Kim at RG 2006 was always behind 1-3, 3-5, 5-6, etc so i donīt know how Hingis was outplaying Kim but trailing :lol:

As for Sharapova, well Hingis was playing her best in the first part of the year and that is why she blew Sharapova off he court. Hingis at her best can beat Sharapova..
Still Hingis as you say playing better in the first part of the season, Sharapova leads 2-1 head to head with her last two matches convincing straight sets wins against Hingis 6-3 6-4 and 6-3 6-3.

but Henin in the 2nd half of the year has looked unconvincing and made a plethora of unforced errors (though against very weak opposition so it didn't matter).
A service notice for you.....!Heninīs second half of the season:
W Eastbourne
F Wimbledon
W New Haven
F Usopen
Record (20-2)

The only unconvincing here is your plethora of lies.
:wavey:

Marcus Jordan
Oct 29th, 2006, 05:02 AM
???????
Im not saying AO 2006 vs Kim was not close, it indeed was a 6-4 in the third set match, but to say Hingis was on brink of beating Kim that day is ridiculous, Hingis was always behind a break in the third set.

Don’t lie now, I never said Hingis was on the brink of winning that match, I said she was unlucky to lose, and she clearly was if you watched the way each game was decided in the 3rd set and the closeness of the game-scores.

Ok now you are lying and inventing things that never happened. Once again in the first set Hingis vs Kim at RG 2006 was always behind 1-3, 3-5, 5-6, etc so i don´t know how Hingis was outplaying Kim but trailing.

Well…since Hingis won more points than Clijsters in that set it could easy be argued that Hingis outplayed her. And you say Clijster was up a break during that set but the fact is she lost that break. How did she lose that break? The same way Hingis lost a break earlier in that set. It doesn’t matter at what point you lose a break, the fact is they both lost serve.

Still Hingis as you say playing better in the first part of the season, Sharapova leads 2-1 head to head with her last two matches convincing straight sets wins against Hingis 6-3 6-4 and 6-3 6-3.

Sharapova leads 2-1 but the fact is Hingis played very poorly in those 2 losses. You would have to have seen them to understand this. The fact is, Sharapova has no chance against Hingis when Hingis looks to attack.

A service notice for you.....!Henin´s second half of the season:
W Eastbourne
F Wimbledon
W New Haven
F Usopen
Record (20-2)

The only unconvincing here is your plethora of lies.

As for Henin, Did you see the Wimbledon Final? If that isn’t a fragile and flawed player I don’t know what is. And you probably don’t know this but Henin has remodelled her service motion this year, and occoasionally the lack of muscle memory with that motion becomes a problem – though not against players that aren’t skilled enough to take advantage of it. The top 8 players are a different proposition.

By the way, your whole attitude and tone is way off. You don’t come here to abuse people, but I hear that’s how they do things in the MensTennisForum, you might like it there :)hinthint:)

spencercarlos
Oct 29th, 2006, 05:25 AM
Don’t lie now, I never said Hingis was on the brink of winning that match, I said she was unlucky to lose, and she clearly was if you watched the way each game was decided in the 3rd set and the closeness of the game-scores.
Another lie from you, you did say that here:
http://www.wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=9362509&postcount=41
I have the match of tape i don´t need to watch it again. Kim was the more agressive player and deserved the victory in the end. Sure it was close, but Hingis was never on the driver´s seat in that match, she was always behind.


Well…since Hingis won more points than Clijsters in that set it could easy be argued that Hingis outplayed her. And you say Clijster was up a break during that set but the fact is she lost that break. How did she lose that break? The same way Hingis lost a break earlier in that set. It doesn’t matter at what point you lose a break, the fact is they both lost serve.
Will you keep your plethora of lies? Hingis did not win more points than Clisters in that first set.
http://2006.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day15/2124ss1.html
Plus breaking after being a break down does not mean you are outplaying your oponnent :rolleyes: .

The same way Hingis lost a break earlier in that set.
Another balant lie Kim broke Hingis to take a 3-1 lead, Hingis inmediately got it back and leveled to 3-3 and Kim then broke her again for a 5-3 lead. Hingis only broke Kim to get breaks back.



Sharapova leads 2-1 but the fact is Hingis played very poorly in those 2 losses. You would have to have seen them to understand this. The fact is, Sharapova has no chance against Hingis when Hingis looks to attack.
Sharapova did not exactly played a clean match while losing to Hingis 6-3 6-1 in Tokio. Sure Hingis played impecable, more winners than Sharapova and less errors. Once again i have this match too.
Sharapova deserved to win the last two matches in the same way Hingis deserved to win the first one.

As for Henin, Did you see the Wimbledon Final? If that isn’t a fragile and flawed player I don’t know what is. And you probably don’t know this but Henin has remodelled her service motion this year, and occoasionally the lack of muscle memory with that motion becomes a problem – though not against players that aren’t skilled enough to take advantage of it. The top 8 players are a different proposition.

By the way, your whole attitude and tone is way off. You don’t come here to abuse people, but I hear that’s how they do things in the MensTennisForum, you might like it there :)hinthint:)
Henin was just a set from winning Wimbledon, reaching the final there for her in her worst surface is quite an acomplishment, a player that has reached 2 GS finals and won two other Tier II events is not fragile by any means . It seems that it´s you the one to have a fragile and flawed ability to think. Especially when you contrast Henin´s results with Hingis´s in their respective´s second half of the season.

By the way, your whole attitude and tone is way off. You don’t come here to abuse people, but I hear that’s how they do things in the MensTennisForum, you might like it there :)hinthint:)
Sorry but i just hate it when someone tries to substain an argument by lying and fabricating things that never happened.

Marcus Jordan
Oct 29th, 2006, 07:51 AM
I was unaware of Clijsters winning more points than Hingis in the 1st set of RG as I recalled otherwise. If I am wrong about that statistic then so be it, but to call me a liar is a very disrespectful accusation I refute. Plus the record shows Clijsters won just 2 more points than Hingis in that set 49-47 and each player was 2/5 on break-point conversions.

And that is where the problem is in all your arguments, you insist on bending the truth and calling me a liar. Anyone who saw the Clijster/Hingis 3rd set at the AO would say it was a close set, the games were contested extremely closely. And in what way are break-backs less important than breaks? In fact since Hingis was the last player to break serve in the 1st set of RG it would indicate she was holding more momentum towards the end of the set. So you aren't aware of the impact Henin's new service motion has had on her quality of play this year?

Whatever condition you are afflicted by obviously prevents you from having a grown-up conversation devoid of name-calling and abuse. You are the first person in this forum to prove unworthy of my ear, and as I earlier noted you will find the MensTennisForum more accepting of your classless LIAR LIAR taunts. If somebody doesn't share your opinion it does not mean they are wrong or lying. If you want to think Henin is playing her best tennis and incapable of losing or that Clijsters was in no danger of losing to Hingis in the AO then so be it. I just hope in time you can express your opinions with more class and perspective. Either way, it won't be me who has to read them. :)

spencercarlos
Oct 29th, 2006, 01:11 PM
I was unaware of Clijsters winning more points than Hingis in the 1st set of RG as I recalled otherwise. If I am wrong about that statistic then so be it, but to call me a liar is a very disrespectful accusation I refute. Plus the record shows Clijsters won just 2 more points than Hingis in that set 49-47 and each player was 2/5 on break-point conversions.

And that is where the problem is in all your arguments, you insist on bending the truth and calling me a liar. Anyone who saw the Clijster/Hingis 3rd set at the AO would say it was a close set, the games were contested extremely closely. And in what way are break-backs less important than breaks? In fact since Hingis was the last player to break serve in the 1st set of RG it would indicate she was holding more momentum towards the end of the set. So you aren't aware of the impact Henin's new service motion has had on her quality of play this year?

Whatever condition you are afflicted by obviously prevents you from having a grown-up conversation devoid of name-calling and abuse. You are the first person in this forum to prove unworthy of my ear, and as I earlier noted you will find the MensTennisForum more accepting of your classless LIAR LIAR taunts. If somebody doesn't share your opinion it does not mean they are wrong or lying. If you want to think Henin is playing her best tennis and incapable of losing or that Clijsters was in no danger of losing to Hingis in the AO then so be it. I just hope in time you can express your opinions with more class and perspective. Either way, it won't be me who has to read them. :)
Im not inventing things.. you are.
1) Hingis ALMOST BEAT Clijsters at the Australian Open. Wrong this never happened, Hingis never led the third set in order to make such remark. Delusional
2) Hingis was outplaying Clijsters at Roland Garros. Wrong. Hingis was never ahead on the first set at any point of the match. 1-3 3-5 5-6 deficits are more than enough prove. Liar and Delusional
3) Hingis won more points than Clijsters in the first set of Roland Garros 2006. Wrong. http://2006.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day15/2124ss1.html
Liar
4)Hingis lost a break earlier in that set (Roland Garros 2006 vs Kim). See point 2 and yet you find another lying statement. Liar
5)Henin in the 2nd half of the year has looked unconvincing. I showed stats that proves otherwise and by a lot. Delusional

So donīt expect to come here and say randoms things and trying to support them with wrong stats or delusional arguments.
If you think Hingis has a chance against those players you named because you trust in her capabilities and you are a fan, that is ok, but donīt come here and try to base your arguments with the wrong, because youīll be in danger to find a stats lover like me and slap you in the face if you are wrong.

lecciones
Nov 6th, 2006, 07:46 AM
I was unaware of Clijsters winning more points than Hingis in the 1st set of RG as I recalled otherwise. If I am wrong about that statistic then so be it, but to call me a liar is a very disrespectful accusation I refute. Plus the record shows Clijsters won just 2 more points than Hingis in that set 49-47 and each player was 2/5 on break-point conversions.

And that is where the problem is in all your arguments, you insist on bending the truth and calling me a liar. Anyone who saw the Clijster/Hingis 3rd set at the AO would say it was a close set, the games were contested extremely closely. And in what way are break-backs less important than breaks? In fact since Hingis was the last player to break serve in the 1st set of RG it would indicate she was holding more momentum towards the end of the set. So you aren't aware of the impact Henin's new service motion has had on her quality of play this year?

Whatever condition you are afflicted by obviously prevents you from having a grown-up conversation devoid of name-calling and abuse. You are the first person in this forum to prove unworthy of my ear, and as I earlier noted you will find the MensTennisForum more accepting of your classless LIAR LIAR taunts. If somebody doesn't share your opinion it does not mean they are wrong or lying. If you want to think Henin is playing her best tennis and incapable of losing or that Clijsters was in no danger of losing to Hingis in the AO then so be it. I just hope in time you can express your opinions with more class and perspective. Either way, it won't be me who has to read them. :)

I saw the game and I'd say it was pretty close. this is to say that if martina hingis wasn't so FRESH and NEW to the tour (of course her body was not used to this grandslam style playing, no matter how much you practice offcourt grandslam tourns are so diffferent) then I'd say that martina would have had a great chance to defeat kim (in both their QF encounters) safe to say that Martina just arrived to the tour again so thats what happened. Btw, I think that if you give them both time to rest and then play their best game, martina will win hands off. (my opinion, state yours but respect mine please thanks)