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hingis-is-best
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:03 PM
and i dont want tons of pages saying im an asshole because justine has the best back hand - take note justine_fan :fiery:

QUEENLINDSAY
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:04 PM
best ever?

Venus? Davenport? Justine? I would chose those backhand over Hingis, though Hingis backhand is one of the best!

Mileen
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:04 PM
No, of course not.

Natalicious
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:05 PM
never!!

Matt01
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:06 PM
No way in hell does Hingis have the best backhand ever :o

RenaSlam.
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:12 PM
Nope. It's her best shot though.

MisterQ
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:19 PM
No --- it would be hard not to choose someone with a truly deadly backhand weapon like Seles, Davenport, Henin-Hardenne, or Venus Williams. I love Hingis, but her greatness is more about the sum of her abilities than any particular shot. :)

Steffica Greles
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:21 PM
Hingis has some of the best feel ever on the backhand side - that much is true. Her length, timing, accuracy and connection from that side is tremendous.

But there are many players who do far more damage with their backhands. Venus, Serena, Davenport, Clijsters, Sharapova and arguably Henin are but a few who spring to mind. And that's only from today's players.

Ultimately every player requires their backhand shot to be a weapon in today's game. Judged as a weapon, Hingis' backhand is some way down the list.

Chewie
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:34 PM
Could be. She can hit it with as much power and accuracy as any.
You have to count consistency too, which drops many above listed players from the competition.
Then again the question is, if 2 handed backhand is better than one handed. One handed has more reach, but I really have not seen ultimately consistent one hander.

LH2HBH
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:51 PM
May be good but is far from best.

Of active players: Lindsay, Venus, Justine come to mind. Also Serena, Maria's is quite good.

btexas
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:12 PM
Monica Seles was probably the best. ;) Davenport and Henin are also excelent though.

gocanadago
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:31 PM
She has a good backhand but not the best ever for sure!

crazyroberto6767
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:33 PM
No. But it is awesome, and definitley one of the best of this era. Well, not as much these days (in her comeback), but pre-'02 for sure. But even then, it wasn't in the same league as Chrissie's or Monica's.

thrust
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:38 PM
No!

TennisSTUD
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:54 PM
I think if she hit it the way she did when she was younger...going for it each time....you can arguably say yes

P_Fer
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:56 PM
nope

LindsayRulz
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:56 PM
May be good but is far from best.

Of active players: Lindsay, Venus, Justine come to mind. Also Serena, Maria's is quite good.

I totally agree with you

einna
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:57 PM
nope...

perseus2006
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:01 AM
It's good at about the same level as Ivanovic, Jankovic, Chakvetadze(SP), Hantuchova and such. Not even close to Dav, Pova, Justine, Ame, Kuzy, Patty and Elena.

The poster above who said that Hingis's game is the sum of it all, not any one thing, is totally correct, IMO.

crazyroberto6767
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:04 AM
It's good at about the same level as Ivanovic, Jankovic, Chakvetadze(SP), Hantuchova and such. Not even close to Kuzy, Patty and Elena .

The poster above who said that Hingis's game is the sum of it all, not any one thing, is totally correct, IMO.
Come on now. While I agree it's not @ the top-notch like it used to be, it's still *at least* as good as Sveta's and Lena D.'s, and it is better than Patty's.

Plus, Jankovic's BH is better than some of the people on the "second" list.

Paneru
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:05 AM
is this a real question?
If so? :spit: :tape:

blumaroo
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:09 AM
People are overlooking Jankovic.

Kuzzy and Elena shouldn't be mentioned at all.

Nicolás89
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:13 AM
martina has a very good backhand better than kuzzie patty and elena i dont know why you mencioned these 3 girls

Ryan
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:38 AM
It's good at about the same level as Ivanovic, Jankovic, Chakvetadze(SP), Hantuchova and such. Not even close to Dav, Pova, Justine, Ame, Kuzy, Patty and Elena.

The poster above who said that Hingis's game is the sum of it all, not any one thing, is totally correct, IMO.



ROTF. OMG. LOL. Wow, you just confirmed you're an idiot. Hingis' backhand not even as good as Patty's, Kuznetsova's, Dementieva's? That's crap. Granted right now it's not a killer weapon, but at her best Hingis' backhand has more variety and did more damage than every backhand listed, minus Davenport's. I'd put Venus and Serena above it as well, but solely on the added power. Hingis has incredible feel with that shot, and has more options off that wing than any player on the tour.

perseus2006
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:10 AM
Ryan,

I don't remember 7 or 8 years ago when Hingis was "at her best". But I do remember what I have seen this year from the players I mentioned. I stand by my opinion and you may stand by yours but I do not think you should rant on about ignorant and stupid! Those are problems you have to deal with.

Bayo
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:25 AM
Martina has a great backhand, but amoung just the active players, I think Venus and Justine, double and one-handed respectively, have the best.

Amelie has a beautiful backhand too.

Kuzzy, Patty and Elena...not so much. Svetlana, in particular, barely even has a backhand.

Ryan
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:25 AM
Ryan,

I don't remember 7 or 8 years ago when Hingis was "at her best". But I do remember what I have seen this year from the players I mentioned. I stand by my opinion and you may stand by yours but I do not think you should rant on about ignorant and stupid! Those are problems you have to deal with.


I don't care if she's not at her best, you have to be blind to think her backhand isn't better than Ivanovic's and is worse than Kuznetsova's.

matthieu_tennis
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:46 AM
hingis has the best backhand
she can slice it so nicely look those one handed slice backhand in difficulties :)
her backhand volley are so nice too :).

Marcus Jordan
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:48 AM
yes martina hingis has the best backhand ever, everybody knows she does.

Sund7101
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:52 AM
Hingis has so much variety on her backhand, she can slice it, come over it, drive it, hit a topspin lob, and a dropshot. IMO that's a great backhand-one of the best two-handers in the game.

I'm not saying she has the best, but out of today's players she's definately in the Top 3.

Derek.
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:58 AM
It's very good, but is it the best? No.

alfonsojose
Oct 24th, 2006, 02:43 AM
97-00 maybe. Not anymore :sad: :shrug:

RJWCapriati
Oct 24th, 2006, 02:44 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: I love Martina......but no she doesn't.

madame_maria
Oct 24th, 2006, 02:54 AM
No.

Marcus Jordan
Oct 24th, 2006, 02:58 AM
People in an Egyptian river.

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:45 AM
Chris Evert has the best backhand ever.

hingisGOAT
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:19 AM
in this generation, yes

she has the most talked about backhand down the line of all active players

she hits it hard and flat, but can hit topspin, an amazing dropshot, perfect lobs, crisp backhand volleys, a sound defensive slice, soft angles, and incredible depth -- all the while sometimes going whole sets w/o making a backhand error

also, power players almost never overpower her backhand, even venus williams' famous double-hander loses most rallies against hingis

she is second only to chris evert

brayster87
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:39 AM
no....are you out of your mind?

Davenport, Venus, Henin-Hardenne etc... are more powerful than Hingis's...

Marcus Jordan
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:41 AM
no....are you out of your mind?

Davenport, Venus, Henin-Hardenne etc... are more powerful than Hingis's...

But none of them can keep it inside the court :sad:

hingisGOAT
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:41 AM
Davenport, Venus, Henin-Hardenne etc... are more powerful than Hingis's...

yeah and that's it. none of those backhands are as consistent, accurate, deep, or can mix it up like martina's...

hingisGOAT
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:42 AM
But none of them can keep it inside the court :sad:

:lol:

brayster87
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:46 AM
in my opinion, it takes a lot more talent to hit powerful, flat shots like Davenport, Venus, Serena etc.. then a person that ,yes is accurate, but doesn't have the power.
it takes skill to hit close to the lines with flat hard shots

LUIS9
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:46 AM
Come on now. While I agree it's not @ the top-notch like it used to be, it's still *at least* as good as Sveta's and Lena D.'s, and it is better than Patty's.

Plus, Jankovic's BH is better than some of the people on the "second" list.

Totally on it crazyroberto. Yes Dementieva can hit it with more pace ocassionally but even Hingis' current subpar backhand (relative to what it used to be as you mentioned pre-02') is still more consistent than Dementieva's and certainly Kuznetsova's. On her good days a la Aussie 06 during this comeback it certainly looked better than the two above backhands. Jankovic's does seem more of a weapon and pretty consistent at that versus Hingis' 06' backhand.

brayster87
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:48 AM
im not saying that Hingis is an awful tennis player because she is clearly not but i'd rather see someone who can hit close to the lines with power..because that tells us that they have talent...

LUIS9
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:50 AM
97-00 maybe. Not anymore :sad: :shrug:

Ditto you can especially make the case from mid 99'- through most of 00'. Sadly even her 01' backhand overshadows her current backhand. It seems so erratic and tentative currently, the two things it used to not be in her hey days.

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:50 AM
it's good, but Venus' is MUCH better. Serena's is more dominating, but Hingis has more variety.

hingisGOAT
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:54 AM
it's good, but Venus' is MUCH better. Serena's is more dominating, but Hingis has more variety.

i guess you've never seen hingis and venus play each other. venus' backhand goes into a coma almost every time

she's quite lucky she can hit bigger serves and returns :devil:

Marcus Jordan
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:55 AM
Hingis has more variety than any BH ever and she also has more consistency than any BH ever and less errors than any BH ever. Sure she has less power but she certainly doesn't lack power on her BH. And the extra power of Williams and Port are resulting in errors.

LUIS9
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:58 AM
it's good, but Venus' is MUCH better. Serena's is more dominating, but Hingis has more variety.

If by better you mean more powerful and hits a lot more winners then yes. Venus' backhand too has gone down the drain these days post 04' mainly; sadly enough. It's quite remarkable both of my favorite double handed backhand players have suffered downgrades in their respective best shots and my favorite backhands. (these days her backhand is making as many if not more errors than her "weaker" forehand)

and yes Serena's backhand is much more aggresive than even Hingis' backhand at it's best nevertheless, Hingis' bchnd at is best is a lot more consistent and effective than Serena's.

ioni
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:37 AM
don't think so :)

barryproudfoot
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:39 AM
it might not be the best, but definately in the top 5

SoClose
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:40 AM
Good , but not the best ever!

rockstar
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:41 AM
no.

Mauresmo Fan
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:53 AM
not even close to the best. momo , justine and jankovic have best backhands

Ryan
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:46 PM
not even close to the best. momo , justine and jankovic have best backhands



:rolleyes: Mauresmo? It's her best shot, but it's not even the best one-hander on tour, let alone the best.

Marcus Jordan
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:51 PM
I remember one time I was standing in front of a mirror and somebody was behind me and they said "martina hingis doesn't have the best backhand ever" and i wasnt sure if i said it or the person behind me cos i wasnt looking at my mouth, so i suspected i said it so i punched myself in the head cos it was such an incorrect thing to say and was bleeding so bad i had to have plastic surgery.

barryproudfoot
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:53 PM
:lol: you nutter

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:54 PM
:hug: aww sweetie....*yells* SOMEONE CALL THE FUNNY VAN, WE HAVE AN ESCAPEE

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:57 PM
once Venus fully developed her backhand into the weapon it is (2000) she won 5/7 meetings with Hingis. You can't really count the previous meetings, she wasn't as developed as a player as Hingis was. When they were both at the top of the sport. Venus was regularly beating her (Oz Open 2001 was the exception where she was WHOPPED) but every other time, Venus prevailed.

leeber
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:27 PM
Henin ;)

Ryan
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:31 PM
once Venus fully developed her backhand into the weapon it is (2000) she won 5/7 meetings with Hingis. You can't really count the previous meetings, she wasn't as developed as a player as Hingis was. When they were both at the top of the sport. Venus was regularly beating her (Oz Open 2001 was the exception where she was WHOPPED) but every other time, Venus prevailed.


Ugh, that is such typical Williams bull shit. You cant fucking count their matches before Venus became a top player!?!? You're fucking kidding me. Ok, lets throw out all of Evert's wins over Navratilova before she was "fully developed". Ditto with Graf and Seles. You cannot punish Hingis for Venus' slower improvement. If you throw out all their matches before 2000 (nice year to sart counting :rolleyes: ), then you cant count ones when Hingis was in decline. So essentially, they've almost never played.

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:36 PM
that's not what I meant. Some of the Hingis fans have said that Hingis' backhand is the best ever. Now all I'm saying is, you have to compare Hingis' best backhand againt Venus' best backhand to get the real answer. I'm not devalidifying her wins, I'm just saying the CONTEXT OF THE BACKHAND, Venus' backhand wasn't fully developed until 2000. So if you want to compare STROKES, use the best against the best. That's the only fair way...

and next time, try to articulate your sentiments without profanity :wavey:

moby
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Ugh, that is such typical Williams bull shit. You cant fucking count their matches before Venus became a top player!?!? You're fucking kidding me. Ok, lets throw out all of Evert's wins over Navratilova before she was "fully developed". Ditto with Graf and Seles. You cannot punish Hingis for Venus' slower improvement. If you throw out all their matches before 2000 (nice year to sart counting :rolleyes: ), then you cant count ones when Hingis was in decline. So essentially, they've almost never played.Especially since Venus is actually older. :shrug:

moby
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:41 PM
So if you want to compare STROKES, use the best against the best. That's the only fair way...Again, not true. We should see how the stroke holds up in their entire career. At her best, Serena may have hit scintillating forehands better than Steffi's. But whose forehand is greater? Steffi's. Because it held up for a whole decade and more.

Anyway, I don't think either have the best backhand ever. I'm going with Justine for the single-hander and Chris for the double-hander. Probably Chris overall.

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:45 PM
it's hard to analyze a particular stroke, but hey, I mean, I was just playing Devil's Advocate. They both have had amazing careers, and I doubt they're losing sleep over who has a better backhand. I just want more posts :p

Ryan
Oct 24th, 2006, 02:22 PM
that's not what I meant. Some of the Hingis fans have said that Hingis' backhand is the best ever. Now all I'm saying is, you have to compare Hingis' best backhand againt Venus' best backhand to get the real answer. I'm not devalidifying her wins, I'm just saying the CONTEXT OF THE BACKHAND, Venus' backhand wasn't fully developed until 2000. So if you want to compare STROKES, use the best against the best. That's the only fair way...

and next time, try to articulate your sentiments without profanity :wavey:



How about, fuck no? I try, but sometimes when the proper idiot comes along, I just need to let it out, whether it's intelligent or not. :)

Hawn
Oct 24th, 2006, 07:00 PM
I think Hingis' backhand is the best overall backhand the game has produced. She has the variety with the flat, topspin, moonball, slice, angle, and dropshot. She has the depth which pushes players beyond the baseline and past the corners. Also, she could hit the backhand down the line from seemingly impossible positions and with great accuracy. Lastly, one of her greatest strengths are the very few errors she's commits from this side. It is very difficult to break her backhand down. It's the complete package.

:worship:

hingisGOAT
Oct 24th, 2006, 07:37 PM
I think Hingis' backhand is the best overall backhand the game has produced. She has the variety with the flat, topspin, moonball, slice, angle, and dropshot. She has the depth which pushes players beyond the baseline and past the corners. Also, she could hit the backhand down the line from seemingly impossible positions and with great accuracy. Lastly, one of her greatest strengths are the very few errors she's commits from this side. It is very difficult to break her backhand down. It's the complete package.

:worship:

:bowdown: but the posters on this board would trade all of that accuracy, consistency, variety, angles, depth, etc. for a "power" backhand

but then again these are the same people that say mary pierce has a greater forehand than graf and capriati so i guess i should take what they say with a grain of salt :haha: