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Dasha_
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:04 PM
``Becoming No. 1 is a huge achievement, but I don't personally think ending the season as No. 1 is a huge deal,'' said Sharapova. ``I honestly can't remember who finished last year No. 1. You remember who won the Grand Slams and who has been No. 1, not who finished the year No. 1.''

:rolleyes:

Oneofakind0490
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:08 PM
I agree with her:eek: I never felt year end nubmer 1 was too important unless your were nubmer 1 all year round or for a decent amount of time. I also can't remember who ended nubmer 1 last year. Was it Kim?

LoveFifteen
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:08 PM
It was the Davenator! :hearts:

LH2HBH
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:11 PM
Maria is not a fucked-up WTAworlder who obesesses over the rankings, points & stupid meaningless titles like 'year-end' no. 1

She's a professional tennis player doing a job who is probably not too concerned about who is #1 in the world unless it's her.

You could probably as other world no. 1's and their answer would be the same.

bis2806
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:14 PM
I don't think she genuinely cares about those kinds of status unless she achieves it. She is probably too upset to only hold the no.1 spot for less than 2 months.

Neptune
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:16 PM
Maria is not a fucked-up WTAworlder who obesesses over the rankings, points & stupid meaningless titles like 'year-end' no. 1

She's a professional tennis player doing a job who is probably not too concerned about who is #1 in the world unless it's her.

You could probably as other world no. 1's and their answer would be the same.
You really thing that she's not looking to the number one place? :rolleyes: Maria is one of the ambitious player of this top so what she would not be interested by the number one place?Maria=lies to the media ;)

Ajrob
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:16 PM
i think it's important, it shows who has been the best of the whole season.

hurricanejeanne
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:16 PM
It was the Davenator! :hearts:

:hearts: Indeed.

Lindsay :angel:

The Daviator
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:17 PM
Maria is not a fucked-up WTAworlder who obesesses over the rankings, points & stupid meaningless titles like 'year-end' no. 1

She's a professional tennis player doing a job who is probably not too concerned about who is #1 in the world unless it's her.

You could probably as other world no. 1's and their answer would be the same.

Still, she should know who the current #1 was this time last year, it's not as if she's being asked who the #1 was 10 years ago...

Helen Lawson
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:17 PM
I can't even remember what I ate for dinner last night.

LDF
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:18 PM
The Lindsay fans all come out now :lol:

crazyroberto6767
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:18 PM
I think it's important :shrug:. Not as important as the grand slams of course, but certainly more important than who was just number 1 during the year.

Last year was a close race though, so if she *really* doesn't know I can't exactly blame her.

But yes, Linds :bowdown:.

MH0861
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:18 PM
Wasn't she all like "OMG I BEAT THE #1 PLAYER IN THE WORLD!111!" last year at the YECs? :lol:

It's true though, I don't think they really keep track of these things - especially when it was a close race at the end.

Anik
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:19 PM
agree also... i remember who won Grand Slams and who was number No. 1 but at the end off season.... dont remember !!!

like Oneofakind0490 : never felt year end number 1 was too important unless your were number 1 all year round or for a decent amount of time

hurricanejeanne
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:20 PM
The Lindsay fans all come out now :lol:

LMAO. We're lurking around every corner you know. ;)

MH0861
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:20 PM
agree also... i remember who won Grand Slams and who was number No. 1 but at the end off season.... dont remember !!!

like Oneofakind0490 : never felt year end number 1 was too important unless your were number 1 all year round or for a decent amount of time

Wasn't Lindsay #1 the entire year except for like a month?

mr_burns
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:21 PM
another reason to dislike her.. it's bullshit, of course she knows who was no 1...Just because it's her job and her goal...

BTW there were 3 players ahead of her, if U can't remember them in the right order you are just an idiot

The Daviator
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:21 PM
agree also... i remember who won Grand Slams and who was number No. 1 but at the end off season.... dont remember !!!

like Oneofakind0490 : never felt year end number 1 was too important unless your were number 1 all year round or for a decent amount of time

Lindsay was #1 all throughout 2005, except for 7 weeks which Lindsay generously gave up to Sharpie :angel:

darrinbaker00
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:21 PM
She didn't know because Michael Joyce didn't signal it to her from the sidelines..... :devil:

LDF
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:22 PM
Wasn't Lindsay #1 the entire year except for like a month?

Yep, she lost it the week before the US Open, and then after the tournament until Zurich. :)

The Daviator
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:22 PM
She didn't know because Michael Joyce didn't signal it to her from the sidelines..... :devil:

:spit:

pierce0415
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:22 PM
Sharapova is probably lying
she pretends not to remember (who was #1) or know anything (coaching used in Zurich) to play off her image :tape:

Derek.
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:23 PM
:o

LDF
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:24 PM
She didn't know because Michael Joyce didn't signal it to her from the sidelines..... :devil:

:tape: :lol:

hurricanejeanne
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:26 PM
Yep, she lost it the week before the US Open, and then after the tournament until Zurich. :)


Actually, to be accurate, Lindsay aquired the number one ranking again(first time since January 2002) in October 2004, finishing that year also as number one, carrying uniterrupted from then through August 2005 (lost in the week of New Haven to Sharapova), regained after reaching said final, lost it again until regaining it after winning her second round match in Zurich and carried it through to February this year when Kim overtook her.

:angel:

Kim's_fan_4ever
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:26 PM
I remember who won the Slams in the past few years but I really don't remember who finished first 2 years ago :lol:

LDF
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:27 PM
Actually, to be accurate, Lindsay aquired the number one ranking again(first time since January 2002) in October 2004, finishing that year also as number one, carrying uniterrupted from then through August 2005 (lost in the week of New Haven to Sharapova), regained after reaching said final, lost it again until regaining it after winning her second round match in Zurich and carried it through to February this year when Kim overtook her.

:angel:

Well I was only talking about 2005 :p :lol:

Aaron68
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:27 PM
Still, she should know who the current #1 was this time last year, it's not as if she's being asked who the #1 was 10 years ago...

She would remember if the #1 had dominated 2005, won a Slam or two, and generally kicked the butts of everyone else.

That's not what happened. I swear, until this whole discussion, I thought it was Kim. Once the whole thing was brought up again, I remembered that Lindsay was it.

But it's not like you look back on 2005 and think "Wow, Lindsay PWNED 2005!" What I remember more than anything was Kim's ridiculous run in the summer.

In 1984, John McEnroe was 82-3, and won *13* titles. Now, in that case, sure. He won Wimbledon, the USO, and was a finalist at RG. Now, THAT'S domination.

Last year, Lindsay was 60-10, won 6 titles (only 1 Tier I), and no Slams. That's a nice, solid year. But nothing outrageously memorable.

LDF
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:27 PM
I remember who won the Slams in the past few years but I really don't remember who finished first 2 years ago :lol:

It was Lindsay again ;)

jacobruiz
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:27 PM
``Becoming No. 1 is a huge achievement, but I don't personally think ending the season as No. 1 is a huge deal,'' said Sharapova. ``I honestly can't remember who finished last year No. 1. You remember who won the Grand Slams and who has been No. 1, not who finished the year No. 1.''

:rolleyes:


And Serena said she wasn't in the 2004 Wimbledon final ("that wasn't me").:lol:

I think the majority of people know more about who won the slams and who has been #1 than who actually ends the year at #1, just like Masha.

Ah, you hater-trolls always looking to stir up trouble.:wavey:

The Daviator
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:30 PM
She would remember if the #1 had dominated 2005, won a Slam or two, and generally kicked the butts of everyone else.

That's not what happened. I swear, until this whole discussion, I thought it was Kim. Once the whole thing was brought up again, I remembered that Lindsay was it.

But it's not like you look back on 2005 and think "Wow, Lindsay PWNED 2005!" What I remember more than anything was Kim's ridiculous run in the summer.

In 1984, John McEnroe was 82-3, and won *13* titles. Now, in that case, sure. He won Wimbledon, the USO, and was a finalist at RG. Now, THAT'S domination.

Last year, Lindsay was 60-10, won 6 titles (only 1 Tier I), and no Slams. That's a nice, solid year. But nothing outrageously memorable.

Nothing outrageously memorable, apart from that classic Wimbledon final she played, plus the other GS final, and the player who gave you the biggest beatdown of the year :rolleyes:

The point I made, whether you think she deserved it or not, you should be able to recall who was #1 a year ago, especially the player who ended the season #1, I mean, surely Sharapova remembers that she wasn't top seed in Australia and Lindsay was?

Anik
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:32 PM
Lindsay was #1 all throughout 2005, except for 7 weeks which Lindsay generously gave up to Sharpie :angel:

yeah I know that lindsay was number one for a long time but she finished the SEASON number one?? no, I didn't look who have finished first at the end of the season... i know my english is bad but i understand me :p

QUEENLINDSAY
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:38 PM
we all know that Sharapova is a lying biatch!!!

Aaron68
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:38 PM
Nothing outrageously memorable, apart from that classic Wimbledon final she played, plus the other GS final, and the player who gave you the biggest beatdown of the year :rolleyes:

The point I made, whether you think she deserved it or not, you should be able to recall who was #1 a year ago, especially the player who ended the season #1, I mean, surely Sharapova remembers that she wasn't top seed in Australia and Lindsay was?

You are assuming that what matters to the fans matters to the players themselves.

And in this, you are sorely mistaken. 99.9999% of what is discussed here doesn't matter in the slightest to Maria, or Kim, or Lindsay, et al.

I am fairly sure that Maria probably figured "Well, I know *I* wasn't #1, so who really gives a damn who it was?" And that's the way she should be thinking.

If you gave her an exam, and really made her think about it, she could probably have come up with it. Like me. But I didn't remember either, off the top of my head. Why? Because it wasn't important to me. Same with Maria.

MH0861
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:40 PM
You are assuming that what matters to the fans matters to the players themselves.

And in this, you are sorely mistaken. 99.9999% of what is discussed here doesn't matter in the slightest to Maria, or Kim, or Lindsay, et al.

I am fairly sure that Maria probably figured "Well, I know *I* wasn't #1, so who really gives a damn who it was?" And that's the way she should be thinking.

If you gave her an exam, and really made her think about it, she could probably have come up with it. Like me. But I didn't remember either, off the top of my head. Why? Because it wasn't important to me. Same with Maria.

You're being too logical.

Clearly, Maria hates Lindsay Davenport and all her fans, and knows nothing about tennis. :sad:

Aaron68
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:42 PM
You're being too logical.

Clearly, Maria hates Lindsay Davenport and all her fans, and knows nothing about tennis. :sad:

LOL

Yeah, what was I thinking?! :)

LDF
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:43 PM
You're being too logical.

Clearly, Maria hates Lindsay Davenport and all her fans, and knows nothing about tennis. :sad:

:lol:

darrinbaker00
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:44 PM
INDIAN WELLS!!

Remember now, Maria? :hehehe:

beauty_is_pink
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:46 PM
well I dont remember who was #1 at the end of last year either.. :shrug:

QUEENLINDSAY
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:46 PM
You are assuming that what matters to the fans matters to the players themselves.

And in this, you are sorely mistaken. 99.9999% of what is discussed here doesn't matter in the slightest to Maria, or Kim, or Lindsay, et al.

I am fairly sure that Maria probably figured "Well, I know *I* wasn't #1, so who really gives a damn who it was?" And that's the way she should be thinking.

If you gave her an exam, and really made her think about it, she could probably have come up with it. Like me. But I didn't remember either, off the top of my head. Why? Because it wasn't important to me. Same with Maria.

The point is, Its too good to be true that Maria doesn't pay attention to whos number one and who is not. She is the most ambitious player I've ever known and I bet she even knows the exact ranking points she needed to surpass Lindsay at that time which she did'nt able to achieved.

perseus2006
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:47 PM
You really thing that she's not looking to the number one place? :rolleyes: Maria is one of the ambitious player of this top so what she would not be interested by the number one place?Maria=lies to the media ;)

Pharrell?! ... You have got to get some sense. In dealing with the "media", one says as little as possible, in a reasonable number of words, talking in generalities and making certain to avoid mentioning specific dates, events or names, and especially, never Never NEVER share a personal goal with a media member.

It is pretty easy to tell that Pova has mounted an all out offensive to take the Year End #1 spot. She wouldn't have tried to play Moscow, Zurich and Linz if this weren't her goal! She is still going for the #1 spot even though the catastrophe in Moscow virtually eliminated her realistic chances of attaining it.

If she states to the media that her goal is to take the #1 spot, then if she adds a win at Linz to Zurich and wins the YEC by defeating JHH in an epic match, the media will report only: Pova Fails In Bid For #1. Reporting missing the #1 spot by about 20 points or about tournament wins would be insignificant and burried in the seventh paragraph of a five paragraph story. Who needs that?

Neptune
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:50 PM
Pharrell?! ... You have got to get some sense. In dealing with the "media", one says as little as possible, in a reasonable number of words, talking in generalities and making certain to avoid mentioning specific dates, events or names, and especially, never Never NEVER share a personal goal with a media member.

It is pretty easy to tell that Pova has mounted an all out offensive to take the Year End #1 spot. She wouldn't have tried to play Moscow, Zurich and Linz if this weren't her goal! She is still going for the #1 spot even though the catastrophe in Moscow virtually eliminated her realistic chances of attaining it.

If she states to the media that her goal is to take the #1 spot, then if she adds a win at Linz to Zurich and wins the YEC by defeating JHH in an epic match, the media will report only: Pova Fails In Bid For #1. Reporting missing the #1 spot by about 20 points or about tournament wins would be insignificant and burried in the seventh paragraph of a five paragraph story. Who needs that?
so,you agree with me,where's the problem? :lol:

The Daviator
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:50 PM
You are assuming that what matters to the fans matters to the players themselves.

And in this, you are sorely mistaken. 99.9999% of what is discussed here doesn't matter in the slightest to Maria, or Kim, or Lindsay, et al.

I am fairly sure that Maria probably figured "Well, I know *I* wasn't #1, so who really gives a damn who it was?" And that's the way she should be thinking.

If you gave her an exam, and really made her think about it, she could probably have come up with it. Like me. But I didn't remember either, off the top of my head. Why? Because it wasn't important to me. Same with Maria.

No, but I don't believe that the players take no notice of the rankings, of course they do, especially the top players, all that 'the rankings don't matter to me, I don't even know what my ranking is' is just PR nonsense...

Remembering who was #1 under a year ago is not that difficult, even for her :p

Aaron68
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:51 PM
The point is, Its too good to be true that Maria doesn't pay attention to whos number one and who is not. She is the most ambitious player I've ever known and I bet she even knows the exact ranking points she needed to surpass Lindsay at that time which she did'nt able to achieved.

I have been a sports fan for over 30 years. And one thing I have come to learn is that most sports fans are exactly like this. They assume that what is important to them is important to the players. When, in actuality, it is almost never true, even slightly.

Many, many athletes at the top of their respective sports don't even think about the sport when they aren't practicing or competing. Most, actually. I guarantee that the posters who post here often think about tennis WAY more than most professional tennis players do.

Do you honestly think that Maria Sharapova thinks about tennis when she is out shopping or hanging out? No effin' way. That's why most fans come off as such total dorks when they meet athletes outside the arena, in the "regular world."

QUEENLINDSAY
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:55 PM
I have been a sports fan for over 30 years. And one thing I have come to learn is that most sports fans are exactly like this. They assume that what is important to them is important to the players. When, in actuality, it is almost never true, even slightly.

Many, many athletes at the top of their respective sports don't even think about the sport when they aren't practicing or competing. Most, actually. I guarantee that the posters who post here often think about tennis WAY more than most professional tennis players do.

Do you honestly think that Maria Sharapova thinks about tennis when she is out shopping or hanging out? No effin' way. That's why most fans come off as such total dorks when they meet athletes outside the arena, in the "regular world."

We are talking about Maria Sharapova and not a regular athlete.

Maria is the most showbiz athlete I've ever seen.
She plays with media all the time and will do everything to achieve everything that even a single ranking point is important to her.

Trust me, Maria is a lying biatch!! its been proven by her short career so far.

Lenafan
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:59 PM
I don't see there being a clearcut #1 like there has always seemed to be in women's tennis for a long, long time. Martina, Graf, Seles, Hingis, Williams sisters. Those days are over IMO unless Nicole Pratt lives up to her true potential.

Dasha_
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:00 PM
She didn't know because Michael Joyce didn't signal it to her from the sidelines..... :devil:

:worship: :haha:

Mileen
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:10 PM
It was the Davenator! :hearts:

Davenator :bounce: :worship:

johnoo
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:16 PM
I can't even remember what I ate for dinner last night.
if maria can't remember to eat a banana or take a drink though a match how can she be expected to remember who was no.1 last year :lol:

Mileen
Oct 23rd, 2006, 10:22 PM
Pharrell?! ... You have got to get some sense. In dealing with the "media", one says as little as possible, in a reasonable number of words, talking in generalities and making certain to avoid mentioning specific dates, events or names, and especially, never Never NEVER share a personal goal with a media member.

It is pretty easy to tell that Pova has mounted an all out offensive to take the Year End #1 spot. She wouldn't have tried to play Moscow, Zurich and Linz if this weren't her goal! She is still going for the #1 spot even though the catastrophe in Moscow virtually eliminated her realistic chances of attaining it.

If she states to the media that her goal is to take the #1 spot, then if she adds a win at Linz to Zurich and wins the YEC by defeating JHH in an epic match, the media will report only: Pova Fails In Bid For #1. Reporting missing the #1 spot by about 20 points or about tournament wins would be insignificant and burried in the seventh paragraph of a five paragraph story. Who needs that?

:clap2: :secret:

Aaron68
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:01 PM
We are talking about Maria Sharapova and not a regular athlete.

Maria is the most showbiz athlete I've ever seen.
She plays with media all the time and will do everything to achieve everything that even a single ranking point is important to her.

Trust me, Maria is a lying biatch!! its been proven by her short career so far.

If Maria is the most "showbiz athlete" you have ever seen, then I am beginning to wonder how old you are.

Umm ... Muhammad Ali? Michael Jordan? Magic Johnson? John McEnroe? Jimmy Connors? Shaquille O'Neal? Michael Johnson? Marion Jones? Katarina Witt? Claudia Pechstein? Mary Lou Retton? Etc. Etc. Etc.

Now, the fact that I am supposed to trust *you* that Maria is both a liar and a bitch is hilarious. Well, it would be, if it weren't so sad. You know Maria? Didn't think so.

I am as big a fan of Maria's as anyone. But I think you'll notice that I don't go around posting nasty slanders against other players. Generally, if I don't have something nice to say, I say nothing at all. You know, like your momma told you when you were a kid?

Just like anyone, there will plenty of people in life who will *assume* that you are a jerk, a mean-spirited person, or an idiot. There is no reason to go and *prove* them right.

the cat
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:27 PM
The thing that confuses me is if being #1 at the end of the year doesn't matter to Maria why is she play Moscow, Zurich and Linz 3 weeks in a row before Madrid? It seems to me with a crowded schedule like this she's trying to rack up as many points as possible in an attempt to end the year ranked #1 on the WTA computer. I hope Masha ends the year ranked #1. That would be nice. But Amelie Mauresmo is still the Player of the Year with Justine Henin second for winning the French Open and making all 4 grand slam finals this year.

alfonsojose
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:31 PM
This thread is going to get bumped until the end the day that bitch cries 'coz she reaches no.1 and wta, nike, prince, etc. , etc. lick her ass

LindsayRulz
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:39 PM
She says it just because she has never archive it...

Nicolás89
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:49 PM
if maria can't remember to eat a banana or take a drink though a match how can she be expected to remember who was no.1 last year :lol:

:lol: true

its obvius that maria is not looking for the year ending, she is looking for the 1# which is basically the same :lol: ;)

Julian
Oct 23rd, 2006, 11:56 PM
what wta player on the tour does not pay attention to the rankings?? Espeically since ill bet that every player wants that number 1 spot!

einna
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:00 AM
why can't you believe that she just didn't really know :lol: why pretend you know something you don't and why pretend you do not know something when you clearly do... ;)

Ntour
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:14 AM
why can't you believe that she just didn't really know :lol: why pretend you know something you don't and why pretend you do not know something when you clearly do... ;)
why defend marias lies when she has blatantly done it time after time this year

I seem to recall a recent one in ZURICH!

Dan23
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:55 AM
4 pages on this seemingly completely uncontroversial answer to a simple question :haha:

Is that all youve got this week Dasha?

morningglory
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:20 AM
well I don't really remember either :o Justine, right? since she won the French and all other stuff... or was it Kim and her USO run?
........ :confused:

edit: read the posts :o so it was Lindsay? 2 GS finals and... :confused: I don't remember her titles...

Ryan
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:23 AM
Wow, I actually forgot who it was too. Lindsay, really? :o Wow.

hurricanejeanne
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:27 AM
well I don't really remember either :o Justine, right? since she won the French and all other stuff... or was it Kim and her USO run?
........ :confused:

edit: read the posts :o so it was Lindsay? 2 GS finals and... :confused: I don't remember her titles...

Dubai, Amelia Island, New Haven, Bali, Filderstadt, Zurich.
Finals: Australian Open, Tokyo PPO, Indian Wells, Wimbledon.
;)

~{X}~
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:29 AM
Sharapova doesn't know the difference between left and right. :rolleyes:

MisterMan
Oct 24th, 2006, 01:57 AM
there's no way Venus or Serena remember either.
It is not important to any player except the one who IS

RJWCapriati
Oct 24th, 2006, 02:46 AM
:rolleyes:

LindsayRulz
Oct 24th, 2006, 02:48 AM
Sharapova doesn't know the difference between left and right. :rolleyes:
:lol:

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 02:57 AM
And Serena said she wasn't in the 2004 Wimbledon final ("that wasn't me").:lol:

I think the majority of people know more about who won the slams and who has been #1 than who actually ends the year at #1, just like Masha.

Ah, you hater-trolls always looking to stir up trouble.:wavey:

Why do you always have to insult the Williams? Get over yourself.

bellascarlett
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:21 AM
4 pages on this seemingly completely uncontroversial answer to a simple question :haha:

Is that all youve got this week Dasha?

:haha: :lol:

exactly.

So what if she doesn't remember? It doesn't mean she shows no respect for Lindsay or what she has achieved. People are getting so sensitive when it comes to Maria.

MH0861
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:30 AM
So what if she doesn't remember? It doesn't mean she shows no respect for Lindsay or what she has achieved. People are getting so sensitive when it comes to Maria.

Exactly. They love each other. They bonded over hot cocoa in Dubai, afterall. :hearts:

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/photogallery/skidubai/f_19.jpg

Lefty.
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:32 AM
I couldn't imagine a player that wouldn't like Lindsay. She's such a nice, down to earth person.

myxomatosis
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:33 AM
Why do you always have to insult the Williams? Get over yourself.Take your own advice when it comes to Maria buddy.

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:33 AM
INDIAN WELLS!!

Remember now, Maria? :hehehe:

You might wanna leave Indian Wells alone...I mean, a lot has happened there throughout the years you may not want to discuss :tape:

kiwifan
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:34 AM
``Becoming No. 1 is a huge achievement, but I don't personally think ending the season as No. 1 is a huge deal,'' said Sharapova. ``I honestly can't remember who finished last year No. 1. You remember who won the Grand Slams and who has been No. 1, not who finished the year No. 1.''

:rolleyes:

I agree with her, been saying it since before I was posting here...

...ONLY THE SLAMS REALLY MATTER. :shrug:

Junex
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:36 AM
Actually, I think this thread is just a bait for Lindsay fans to bash Maria...
and so because this thread is started by a lifetime devoted Maria Hater!


She basically said she doesn't remember who finished the year #1 but those who have won GS and become # during the season.
Maria didn't specifically said "last year"

Its just not about Lindsay, but all other players who ended YE#1...
what is in it BTW, becoming YE#1 is just not so much of an achievement and only significant because its a culminating ranking and the lay-off period would buffer to your safe weeks in reatining your ranking.

Honestly, Its great but its not something to be put as momentous!!! how many of our World #1's have ended the year #1 ranked in their career?

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:39 AM
Maria must be getting AWFULLY close to the #1 ranking...I mean, look at all the trolls in this thread.

If it happends, at least she'll be a true YE #1, having won a grand slam tourney the same calendar year she ended the year ranked #1. The WTA hasn't had one of those since Justine in '03 and Serena in '02.

MH0861
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:42 AM
Maria must be getting AWFULLY close to the #1 ranking...I mean, look at all the trolls in this thread.

If it happends, at least she'll be a true YE #1, having won a grand slam tourney the same calendar year she ended the year ranked #1. The WTA hasn't had one of those since Justine in '03 and Serena in '02.

LOL, 01, 04 and 05 were Lindsay. :lol: I agree she wasn't a true year end #1 without any majors in those years, as a fan. It's just the way the computer rankings and injuries worked out in those years.

IMO, any of the three women in contention - Maria, Amelie, or Justine - deserve the year end #1, especially if one of them wins the YECs on top of it.

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:42 AM
IMO, any of the three women in contention - Maria, Amelie, or Justine - deserve the year end #1, especially if one of them wins the YECs on top of it.

Yep.

Dan23
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:50 AM
INDIAN WELLS!!

Remember now, Maria? :hehehe:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5751/214gr4.jpg

:scratch:

perseus2006
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:00 AM
Serious Correction:

Denzuko in post 87 below points out a problem: The minimum points earned is 72, not the 75 I used originally in the discussion below. Consequently, setting Pova aside, If Ame wins the YEC and JHH catastrophically fails, Ame takes the #1 spot by 2 points!!! This means that JHH has to take at least the QuarterFinal points to eliminate Ame from #1. Sorry about the error.

Unless my calculations are wrong, Ame is out of the contest for Year End #1. Of course it's possible I am mistaken, but I doubt that!

Setting Pova aside for the moment, if Ame wins the YEC while JHH catastrophically fails at the YEC, the 75 Points awarded JHH would be sufficient to win the #1 spot over Ame by a single point!!!! No fooling, just one point.

The only way for Ame to get the #1 spot is if JHH doesn't play at all!!! All JHH has to do is stand in for the first serve of her first match at the YEC and she is guaranteed the #1 spot over Ame!!!

With Pova in play, JHH is in some danger. If Pova wins Linz and the YEC while JHH exits at the SemiFinal level or lower, Pova wins the #1 spot by at least 114 points.

But, if Pova wins at Linz and the YEC facing JHH in the YEC final, then JHH wins the #1 spot by 20 points!!!

The only way around this is for Ame and Pova to enter the tournament prior to the YEC, that would be in addition to Linz for Pova.

Unbelievable!!!!

morningglory
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:02 AM
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5751/214gr4.jpg

:scratch:
pwned!!! :nerner:
ghost of the past conquered!

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:05 AM
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5751/214gr4.jpg

:scratch:

INDIAN WELLS 2005 6-0 6-0 in your face!

bellascarlett
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:09 AM
pwned!!! :nerner:
ghost of the past conquered!
:lol:

bellascarlett
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:37 AM
Unless my calculations are wrong, Ame is out of the contest for Year End #1. Of course it's possible I am mistaken, but I doubt that!

Setting Pova aside for the moment, if Ame wins the YEC while JHH catastrophically fails at the YEC, the 75 Points awarded JHH would be sufficient to win the #1 spot over Ame by a single point!!!! No fooling, just one point.

The only way for Ame to get the #1 spot is if JHH doesn't play at all!!! All JHH has to do is stand in for the first serve of her first match at the YEC and she is guaranteed the #1 spot over Ame!!!

With Pova in play, JHH is in some danger. If Pova wins Linz and the YEC while JHH exits at the SemiFinal level or lower, Pova wins the #1 spot by at least 114 points.

But, if Pova wins at Linz and the YEC facing JHH in the YEC final, then JHH wins the #1 spot by 20 points!!!

The only way around this is for Ame and Pova to enter the tournament prior to the YEC, that would be in addition to Linz for Pova.

Unbelievable!!!!

Wow really? Well then Momo's chances are terrible now.

Unless Maria wins Linz (or gets to the final i think), the excitement will be over in terms of the YE 1.

I hope the YE 1 comes down to the YEC.

Piotr'ek
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:52 AM
INDIAN WELLS 2005 6-0 6-0 in your face!
what about beating lindsay's ass in her home at YEC ? :haha:

owned baby :D I'm gonna say this one more time, Maria owns Lindsay you lil troll :)

btw I thought Kim was no1 at the end of the year :angel: :p

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:55 AM
what about beating lindsay's ass in her home at YEC ? :haha:

owned baby :D I'm gonna say this one more time, Maria owns Lindsay you lil troll :)

btw I thought Kim was no1 at the end of the year :angel: :p

She did not "beat lindsay's ass." Lindsay demolished her in Indian Wells more than Maria ever will in any match. Period. Thus, Maria does not own Lindsay.

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:02 AM
INDIAN WELLS 2005

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-03/19/xin_2303021910071403108918.jpg

denzuko
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:06 AM
Setting Pova aside for the moment, if Ame wins the YEC while JHH catastrophically fails at the YEC, the 75 Points awarded JHH would be sufficient to win the #1 spot over Ame by a single point!!!! No fooling, just one point.


Actually it's 72 points, I checked... in that scenario, Amelie will be #1 by 2 points.
Other than that you're right !

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:08 AM
INDIAN WELLS 2005

http://www.stupid.com/images/games-but-may2006.gif

LindsayRulz
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:11 AM
http://www.wtnphotos.com/data/500/haha2.JPG

XaDavK_Kapri
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:14 AM
Just watch her at the AO if she ends the year #1.
"Oh obviously last year was great for me. Winning that second GS title and ending the year at #1 were great achievements for me. Especially since I'm only 19."
Love you Maria :p

Buitenzorg
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:16 AM
``Becoming No. 1 is a huge achievement, but I don't personally think ending the season as No. 1 is a huge deal,'' said Sharapova. ``I honestly can't remember who finished last year No. 1. You remember who won the Grand Slams and who has been No. 1, not who finished the year No. 1.''

:rolleyes:



Well, firstly; She is blonde! (no offense!)



Doesn't she really care about finishing #1? don't talk rubbish! of course she really wants to be #1 player at the end of the year!

Dan23
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:16 AM
2 can play at this :lol: but we have 4 or 5 times as many events to choose from tho :p

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4270/wimbledon04146vu6.jpg

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:19 AM
That's kinda sad. I forgot who won the USO last year last week. You forget things. Life goes on :shrug:

Buitenzorg
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:21 AM
That's kinda sad. I forgot who won the USO last year last week. You forget things. Life goes on :shrug:

:lol: :lol: good point :lol: :lol:

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:26 AM
http://www.wtnphotos.com/data/500/haha2.JPG

I was trying to find that picture :)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure Maria does not care if she ends the world no.1. What is this injury at Moscow and playing back to back in Zurich and then Linz. :rolleyes: Don't you want to save your energy at the YEC. Oh wait, I need points :tape:

bellascarlett
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:35 AM
2 can play at this :lol: but we have 4 or 5 times as many events to choose from tho :p

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4270/wimbledon04146vu6.jpg

:lol: exactly...

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:37 AM
I was trying to find that picture :)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure Maria does not care if she ends the world no.1. What is this injury at Moscow and playing back to back in Zurich and then Linz. :rolleyes: Don't you want to save your energy at the YEC. Oh wait, I need points :tape:

http://rmeek141.home.comcast.net/TrollBooth.JPG

LucasArg
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:37 AM
I didn´t knew either :lol:

DavyJone96431
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:39 AM
finishing #1 is just the icing on the cake

Buitenzorg
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:45 AM
http://www.wtnphotos.com/data/500/haha2.JPG

I like the shape of that zero 0 and 0 :lol:

Yes, maybe she think 0 is better 1 :lol:

LindsayRulz
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:47 AM
That's kinda sad. I forgot who won the USO last year last week. You forget things. Life goes on :shrug:

Me too I forgot who won the last us open, the only thing I can remember is this

http://www.wtnphotos.com/tmp/38146/mariamaria4.gif

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:50 AM
Me too I forgot who won the last us open, the only thing I can remember is this....

http://www.amelianow.com/spring00-tennis2.JPGhttp://www.foodandsport.com/Davenport96OG.jpg

Dan23
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:54 AM
Me too I forgot who won the last us open, the only thing I can remember is this

http://www.wtnphotos.com/tmp/38146/mariamaria4.gif
you've gotta have it to drop it ;)

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:56 AM
you've gotta have it to drop it ;)

It has been many, many years.... ;) I would consider it modern history. But were approaching eight years, and not even fighting Larry Scott will change the outcome.

lindsayno1
Oct 24th, 2006, 07:50 AM
``Becoming No. 1 is a huge achievement, but I don't personally think ending the season as No. 1 is a huge deal,'' said Sharapova. ``I honestly can't remember who finished last year No. 1. You remember who won the Grand Slams and who has been No. 1, not who finished the year No. 1.''

LOL Maria...she'd kill to be YE no1!

Langers
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:12 AM
Who the heck cares?

Get a life people.

ioni
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:23 AM
you've gotta have it to drop it ;)
:worship:

Slumpsova
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:39 AM
sour grapes :lol:
she knows she won't finish the year #1 so she pretended to be like "who cares? it doesn't mean shit." oh please, Maria. don't be more pathetic :rolleyes:

Kunal
Oct 24th, 2006, 09:32 AM
YEA ITS no big deal

perseus2006
Oct 24th, 2006, 10:06 AM
Revisit post 79 for a serious correction.

Denzuko correctly pointed out that the minimum points awarded at the YEC is 72 points rather than the 75 points I used. This means that Ame retains the #1 spot by 2 points if JHH doesn't play or fails to reach at least the Quarter Final position at the YEC, not considering Pova's impact.

Pova can still take the #1 spot with wins at Linz and the YEC, if JHH does not also reach the YEC Final.

WIMBLY2004
Oct 24th, 2006, 10:51 AM
I thought either Clijsters or Mauresmo was No.1 player last year, and it turned out I was wrong, so I don't blame Maria for not remembering that piece of information :lol:

Dasha_
Oct 24th, 2006, 11:47 AM
http://www.wtnphotos.com/data/500/haha2.JPG

I simply MUST use this for my avatar!!!
Hope you don't mind?

CDGS22
Oct 24th, 2006, 11:58 AM
Now, let all of us remember that Maria feels this way, that ending the year number one is not that important. Because when she one day does finish the year at number one, she will throw it in everyones faces saying "how great I am, I finished the year at number one." Then we can laugh at her for being the biggest liar ever, because every tennis player wants to be number one at the end of the year, it all comes with the ego of an athlete, everyone wants to be the best.

xan
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:09 PM
I simply MUST use this for my avatar!!!
Hope you don't mind?

The so so sad people :unsure: whose sole comfort in life is a single bad match Maria played 2 years ago....

perseus2006
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:17 PM
The so so sad people :unsure: whose sole comfort in life is a single bad match Maria played 2 years ago....

Even the sniveling Dasha needs something!!! If this helps her, ok. She does need help!!!

I wonder if Lindsay would trade that match for a win sometime after it!!!

Dasha_
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:20 PM
Even the sniveling Dasha needs something!!! If this helps her, ok. She does need help!!!

I wonder if Lindsay would trade that match for a win sometime after it!!!

No, she wouldn't trade it, why would she?

perseus2006
Oct 24th, 2006, 12:22 PM
snivel, snivel ...

jacobruiz
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:04 PM
Me too I forgot who won the last us open, the only thing I can remember is this

http://www.wtnphotos.com/tmp/38146/mariamaria4.gif


Aw - thanks for posting that little vid again. I haven't seen it in a couple weeks and it is so cute!:hearts:

Aaron68
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:09 PM
What cracks me up is how sad this discussion is. All Masha said was that she didn't remember who was #1. Is it THAT surprising? Sheesh.

And all of you Lindsay fans who are apparently so offended, get a life. Lindsay herself would be humiliated to see you trying to slam Maria. One thing Lindsay has always been is a smart, nice girl. That's why people like her. Her fans, on the other hand ...

And, yeah, this year it is going to be interesting to see who is YE #1. Masha has to do her part at Linz. Then let the ballgame begin.

As I said earlier, I think it is amazing that we can have a 3-way race at this point in the season. The ATP race was over 6 months ago.

switz
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:12 PM
non issue. a lot of people on this board seem to have too much time on there hands and actually believe that players spend every night after analysing the rankings to see how many points they will lose in the next month and how many they need to move up. maybe the young ones do but i find it hard to believe the elite players spend that much obsessing about it.

i have little time for sharapova but seriously give her a break.

BUBI
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:27 PM
So what??? I don't remember it either :shrug:
Sharapova haters are annoying :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

The Daviator
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:34 PM
http://www.wtnphotos.com/data/500/haha2.JPG


:lol: :lol: :worship:

What a day :angel:

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:49 PM
Now, let all of us remember that Maria feels this way, that ending the year number one is not that important. Because when she one day does finish the year at number one, she will throw it in everyones faces saying "how great I am, I finished the year at number one." Then we can laugh at her for being the biggest liar ever, because every tennis player wants to be number one at the end of the year, it all comes with the ego of an athlete, everyone wants to be the best.

Good one. Only time waits.

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:51 PM
The so so sad people :unsure: whose sole comfort in life is a single bad match Maria played 2 years ago....

Maria did not play a bad match per se. She got destroyed by Lindsay. :devil:

jacobruiz
Oct 24th, 2006, 03:57 PM
:lol: :lol: :worship:

What a day :angel:


It was indeed. The ONLY time Lindsay has been able to beat Maria, who was suffering from severe cramps. Some, maybe most, would have retired, but Maria preferred to continue and finish the match.:hug: What a girl!:yeah:

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:00 PM
It was indeed. The ONLY time Lindsay has been able to beat Maria, who was suffering from severe cramps. Some, maybe most, would have retired, but Maria preferred to continue and finish the match.:hug: What a girl!:yeah:

What are you talking about? Maria is the sort of player who would retire in a match if she knew she wouldn't be able to win at the end. Seriously, Maria said she "tried everything and nothing was working," so stop bullshitting.

MH0861
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:01 PM
Can't we all just get along? :awww:

TomTennis
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:01 PM
i think it's important, it shows who has been the best of the whole season.

it used to, but these days it certainly doesnt at all.

The Daviator
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:02 PM
It was indeed. The ONLY time Lindsay has been able to beat Maria, who was suffering from severe cramps. Some, maybe most, would have retired, but Maria preferred to continue and finish the match.:hug: What a girl!:yeah:

:lol: Yeah, you tell yourself that, if it makes you feel better :yeah:

If you saw the match, there was absolutely no evidence of a problem with her, and even if there was, she should have at least won a game :angel:

jacobruiz
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:03 PM
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-03/19/xin_2303021910071403108918.jpg

Maria was in pain but she kept on playing. And then the next year....

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5751/214gr4.jpg

:worship: :worship: :worship:


And of course Lindsay has never beaten her since (or before).

TomTennis
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:05 PM
:lol: at the lindsay fans vs Sharapova fans. lmao.

The Daviator
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:05 PM
Lindsay was injured in 2 of the 4 matches she lost to Maria, and in another, it was meaningless to her since she had already qualified for the YEC semi, so really Maria only has one legit win over Lindsay :wavey:

See, two can play that game :ras:

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:06 PM
Maria was in pain but she kept on playing. And then the next year....

Stop your lies. She wasn't in any freaking pain at all.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-03/19/content_426429.htm

'Sharapova said the gusting wind was a factor, but she did not use that as an excuse.

"There are days when I go out on the court and I feel like I can't miss a ball," said Sharapova, who made her pro debut in 2001.

"Today was just one of those days when you're playing terrible and she's just hitting every single ball as hard as she can, on the line."'

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:07 PM
Lindsay was injured in 2 of the 4 matches she lost to Maria, and in another, it was meaningless to her since she had already qualified for the YEC semi, so really Maria only has one legit win over Lindsay :wavey:

See, two can play that game :ras:

Don't forget the rain delay at Wimbledon!!! :D

The Daviator
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:09 PM
Don't forget the rain delay at Wimbledon!!! :D

Of course ;)

And despite all of these things, Maria has never comprehensively beaten Lindsay :lol:

There was, and still is, only one lop-sided match in their rivalry :devil:

Stamp Paid
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:10 PM
She remembers. ;)

jacobruiz
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Don't forget the rain delay at Wimbledon!!! :D


Maria won 6-1 in the third. If a top player can't get it together after a rain delay she deserves to lose. But Maria came back swinging and out played Lindsay. (And the rest is history...:lol:)

Anik
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:12 PM
:lol: at the lindsay fans vs Sharapova fans. lmao.
:scared: or :cuckoo: at the lindsay fans vs Sharapova fans. lmao.

LDF
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:14 PM
:lol: at the lindsay fans vs Sharapova fans. lmao.

This was inevitable :tape: :lol:

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:16 PM
Maria won 6-1 in the third. If a top player can't get it together after a rain delay she deserves to lose. But Maria came back swinging and out played Lindsay. (And the rest is history...:lol:)

No no! The win wasn't legitimate because there was a break in between and Lindsay therefore had no rhythm! On the other hand, Lindsay blew Maria away in IW2005 and both players were in fine condition :)

jacobruiz
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:16 PM
Stop your lies. She wasn't in any freaking pain at all.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-03/19/content_426429.htm

'Sharapova said the gusting wind was a factor, but she did not use that as an excuse.

"There are days when I go out on the court and I feel like I can't miss a ball," said Sharapova, who made her pro debut in 2001.

"Today was just one of those days when you're playing terrible and she's just hitting every single ball as hard as she can, on the line."'



I'm not lying. That's what Maria said in her interview - she never gave excuses for anything but her fans know the story.

And speaking of liars - you accused me of bad-mouthing Vee & Rena; ever find any evidence?:shrug: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=12#):)

TomTennis
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:17 PM
Don't forget the rain delay at Wimbledon!!! :D

:sad: that match was Lindsay's all over!! :tape:

But thats Wimbledon for you.

TomTennis
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:20 PM
I'm not lying. That's what Maria said in her interview - she never gave excuses for anything but her fans know the story.

And speaking of liars - you accused me of bad-mouthing Vee & Rena; ever find any evidence?:shrug: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=12#):)

I was staying out of this argument, but why the hell did you even mention Venus and Serena. They have NOTHING to do with any of this argument.

Reading your post (especially the bit in bold) makes you sound like Masha fans are clinging onto the hope that she had any sort of injury during the IW2005 match. Sounds more like wishful thinking to me.

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:21 PM
I'm not lying. That's what Maria said in her interview - she never gave excuses for anything but her fans know the story.

And speaking of liars - you accused me of bad-mouthing Vee & Rena; ever find any evidence?:shrug: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=12#):)

Show me the transcript then, if that's true at all.

Ah, and I'm glad you brought up the bad-mouth issue. In fact in this thread, on the second page, you made fun of Serena. Now you brought that up in this thread first, so you ARE the troll.

And Serena said she wasn't in the 2004 Wimbledon final ("that wasn't me").

justine&coria
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:22 PM
Oh my god, is it true that Lindsay was number 1 last year ? I really follow tennis, but I totally forgot this.

Anyway, this fight between the Lindsay fans and the Sharapova's ones is so funny.
Of course, the double-bagel is going to be remembered for a long time, but it doesn't mean a lot any longer !!
First, this double-bagel was just one match, and if people think Sharapova played her best ever in that match, then they're fooling themselves.
And right now, Sharapova's proved that she's a contender in every tournament including Grand Slams, which isn't Lindsay's case. So I'm sure both Sharapova and Lindsay are over this match. Actually it's quite meaningless now, just that people are gonna remember it for long.

The Daviator
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:22 PM
I was staying out of this argument, but why the hell did you even mention Venus and Serena. They have NOTHING to do with any of this argument.

Reading your post (especially the bit in bold) makes you sound like Masha fans are clinging onto the hope that she had any sort of injury during the IW2005 match. Sounds more like wishful thinking to me.

Of course it's wishful thinking, she was fine, unless she had the sort of cramps that don't inhibit your play whatsoever :tape: Or maybe it was her period pains, let's bring that one up again :tape:

I accept all Maria's wins over Lindsay, even though Lindsay had an excuse in all :p Maria fans need to stop being so proud and accept that she was beat down that day :)

MH0861
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:34 PM
Oh my god, is it true that Lindsay was number 1 last year ? I really follow tennis, but I totally forgot this.

Anyway, this fight between the Lindsay fans and the Sharapova's ones is so funny.
Of course, the double-bagel is going to be remembered for a long time, but it doesn't mean a lot any longer !!
First, this double-bagel was just one match, and if people think Sharapova played her best ever in that match, then they're fooling themselves.
And right now, Sharapova's proved that she's a contender in every tournament including Grand Slams, which isn't Lindsay's case. So I'm sure both Sharapova and Lindsay are over this match. Actually it's quite meaningless now, just that people are gonna remember it for long.

Even after the match, Lindsay didn't think that much about it or didn't think it was particularly significant. She was all like "She obviously wasn't playing her best, I just had to keep my level up and not let her back in" rather than "OH.EM.GEE. I JUST DOUBLE BAGELED HER YAYAYAYAY!!".

jacobruiz
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:40 PM
I was staying out of this argument, but why the hell did you even mention Venus and Serena. They have NOTHING to do with any of this argument.

Reading your post (especially the bit in bold) makes you sound like Masha fans are clinging onto the hope that she had any sort of injury during the IW2005 match. Sounds more like wishful thinking to me.


Maria didn't have an injury and her fans haven't said that she did so I don't know where that is coming from.:confused: And believe me, Maria has had enough injuries without her fans wishing for more.

Maria can be brought up in any situation or arguement; same for any player. Biz said I talked bad about Venus and Serena and I reminded him of it.

jacobruiz
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:43 PM
Ah, and I'm glad you brought up the bad-mouth issue. In fact in this thread, on the second page, you made fun of Serena. Now you brought that up in this thread first, so you ARE the troll.

No I didn't make fun of Serena. I was making fun of posters who twist everything a player says into something evil - but then, YOU wouldn't know about that sort of thing, would you, biz?:lol:

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:45 PM
Maria didn't have an injury and her fans haven't said that she did so I don't know where that is coming from.:confused: And believe me, Maria has had enough injuries without her fans wishing for more.

Maria can be brought up in any situation or arguement; same for any player. Biz said I talked bad about Venus and Serena and I reminded him of it.

You truly need help :tape:

Maria was in pain but she kept on playing.

And I reminded you of how you bad-mouthed Serena in this thread by making fun of her.

And Serena said she wasn't in the 2004 Wimbledon final ("that wasn't me").

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:46 PM
No I didn't make fun of Serena. I was making fun of posters who twist everything a player says into something evil - but then, YOU wouldn't know about that sort of thing, would you, biz?:lol:

You can deny all you want, but non-Maria posters know the truth :)

jacobruiz
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:54 PM
You can deny all you want, but non-Maria posters know the truth :)


How are you a "non-Maria" poster?:shrug: You post about Maria twenty times more than you post about your own fave!:lol:

FrenchY52
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:55 PM
:rolleyes:

bis2806
Oct 24th, 2006, 04:56 PM
How are you a "non-Maria" poster?:shrug: You post about Maria twenty times more than you post about your own fave!:lol:

By non-Maria posters, I obviously meant non-Maria fans :rolleyes:

random fan
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:00 PM
By non-Maria posters, I obviously meant non-Maria fans :rolleyes:

no sh!t

mike/topgun
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:00 PM
she's not the only one:rolleyes:
that's not a popular statistic anyway;)

MH0861
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:10 PM
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Lindsay didn't know who the year end #1 was if the roles were reversed, either.

Let's give Maria a break here guys, and not hate on her because we wish Lindsay were winning San Diego, the US Open and Zurich. :p

bellascarlett
Oct 24th, 2006, 05:43 PM
I simply MUST use this for my avatar!!!
Hope you don't mind?

JEALOUSY defined. :lol:

Not even a Lindsay diehard and this gives you a freaking high. Ah the things Maria can accomplish. What's your point? What are people supposed to get from your avatar? I swear...get over it. Life will be so much easier once you start accepting Maria is here to stay...on top. ;)

bellascarlett
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:03 PM
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Lindsay didn't know who the year end #1 was if the roles were reversed, either.

Let's give Maria a break here guys, and not hate on her because we wish Lindsay were winning San Diego, the US Open and Zurich. :p

A lindsay fan with too much sense. Good for you.

Honestly, to those lindsay fans in this thread who think so highly of that double bagel in a tournament Lindsay didn't even win...YOU CAN HAVE IT! :lol: If you seriously think Maria cares about it and that Lindsay thinks she wouldn't trade that match for a 4-1 H2H and thus including that Wimbledon win that Maria got on her way to a first slam, GO AHEAD please. :help:

shibster
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:06 PM
well, being beat 6-0, 6-0 is BAD, i think, it spells COMPREHENSIVE.

but i think being beat 6-0, quite frequently, isn't bad at all. momo can tell you that.

Dasha_
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:12 PM
...Life will be so much easier once you start accepting Maria is here to stay...on top. ;)

You forget one thing - she first must come here... on top ;)

LindsayRulz
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:13 PM
JEALOUSY defined. :lol:

Not even a Lindsay diehard and this gives you a freaking high. Ah the things Maria can accomplish. What's your point? What are people supposed to get from your avatar? I swear...get over it. Life will be so much easier once you start accepting Maria is here to stay...on top. ;)

LOL you are so upset that Dasha_ has this pix as avatar... :rolleyes:

bellascarlett
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:25 PM
LOL you are so upset that Dasha_ has this pix as avatar... :rolleyes:

:lol: yeah okay, you can think that as well.

when Maria just won the Us Open and is having a really great year, you honestly think i care?

with Maria's very good position in the tennis game today, the avatar says more about the poster who has it than about Maria. ;)

If somebody doesn't get that, then too bad...:awww:

BUBI
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:37 PM
so...

Davenport def. Sharapova 6-0 6-0

get over it.

The Daviator
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:38 PM
:lol: yeah okay, you can think that as well.

when Maria just won the Us Open and is having a really great year, you honestly think i care?

with Maria's very good position in the tennis game today, the avatar says more about the poster who has it than about Maria. ;)

If somebody doesn't get that, then too bad...:awww:

I do think you honestly care :lol: If Maria's 'tennis did the talking', there'd be no need for you to come into these threads and defend her, would there? :)

The ghosts of IW clearly still haven't been put to rest :lol:

LindsayRulz
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:50 PM
I do think you honestly care :lol: If Maria's 'tennis did the talking', there'd be no need for you to come into these threads and defend her, would there? :)

The ghosts of IW clearly still haven't been put to rest :lol:

That's exacly what I thought :lol:

franny
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Wait, why does a thread about Sharapova not remembering who ended last year number 1 lead to people talking about the infamous indian wells match? First of all, it is conceivable for Sharapova to not remember who finished number 1 last year. It's not an insult to Davenport, because honeslty, off the top of our heads, how many people can remember who finished number 1 5-6 years ago? And we are tennis fans, who follow tennis and talk tennis every day. Sharapova is a player. She doesnt need to think and follow all the tennis news when she has her own career to worry about. Again, it is not an insult to Lindsay. I'm sure that Sharapova remembers being arse-kicked by Lindsay as well as the fact that Lindsay was the number 1 player last year. There is no need for Davenport fans to attack her, and no need for Sharapova fans to defend at every little attack.

For the infamous match, it is in the past now. Both Dav and Sharapova has a trump card on each other. As humiliating as that 6-0, 6-0 defeat was, Davenport still has not been able to beat Sharapova aside from that one match. Sadly, I don't see Lindsay beating Sharapova anymore. She will forever hold onto that 6-0, 6-0 drubbing, which is pretty sad if you have to constantly revert to the one match that you beat your opponent in to make yourself feel better. But then Lindsay probably hardly gives a crap. She's given many 6-0, 6-0 drubbings. She's a legend. For her, it's just another match. I'm sure she'd trade it in any day for that Wimbledon semifinal. Anyways, my point is that we should not dwell on this constant fight between the two player's fans. I have never understood the huge amount of animosity between the two player's fans.

Yasmine
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:56 PM
I don't either :lol: was it Lindsay? :shrug:

Maria Croft
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:58 PM
Wait, why does a thread about Sharapova not remembering who ended last year number 1 lead to people talking about the infamous indian wells match? First of all, it is conceivable for Sharapova to not remember who finished number 1 last year. It's not an insult to Davenport, because honeslty, off the top of our heads, how many people can remember who finished number 1 5-6 years ago? And we are tennis fans, who follow tennis and talk tennis every day. Sharapova is a player. She doesnt need to think and follow all the tennis news when she has her own career to worry about. Again, it is not an insult to Lindsay. I'm sure that Sharapova remembers being arse-kicked by Lindsay as well as the fact that Lindsay was the number 1 player last year. There is no need for Davenport fans to attack her, and no need for Sharapova fans to defend at every little attack.

For the infamous match, it is in the past now. Both Dav and Sharapova has a trump card on each other. As humiliating as that 6-0, 6-0 defeat was, Davenport still has not been able to beat Sharapova aside from that one match. Sadly, I don't see Lindsay beating Sharapova anymore. She will forever hold onto that 6-0, 6-0 drubbing, which is pretty sad if you have to constantly revert to the one match that you beat your opponent in to make yourself feel better. But then Lindsay probably hardly gives a crap. She's given many 6-0, 6-0 drubbings. She's a legend. For her, it's just another match. I'm sure she'd trade it in any day for that Wimbledon semifinal. Anyways, my point is that we should not dwell on this constant fight between the two player's fans. I have never understood the huge amount of animosity between the two player's fans.


Good post :yeah:

LDF
Oct 24th, 2006, 06:58 PM
Wait, why does a thread about Sharapova not remembering who ended last year number 1 lead to people talking about the infamous indian wells match?

Couldn't you sense that was going to happen as soon as the thread started? :tape: :lol:

morningglory
Oct 24th, 2006, 07:02 PM
one thing I don't understand the most about this thread is why can't people just simply believe Maria's word that she didn't remember? Heck some diehard tennis fans here don't remember either! :o
there shouldn't be any arguments about this

bellascarlett
Oct 24th, 2006, 07:20 PM
I do think you honestly care :lol: If Maria's 'tennis did the talking', there'd be no need for you to come into these threads and defend her, would there? :)

The ghosts of IW clearly still haven't been put to rest :lol:

I knew someone was gonna say that. :lol:

Very predictable. But yeah I really don't...sorry. You can say the same thing for every negative thread about Maria. Maria's tennis does the talking and everyone knows where she stands despite the insults but I still bother to go in those threads sometimes and post what I have to say. It's part of being a member of a message board. So this isn't anything to flatter someone else by.

Maria is having a great year and if some double bagel from 2 yrs ago is what some hold onto, well then as I say go ahead. And really, Maria looked very much haunted by the IW ghost when she won IW this year noh? And when she hasn't lost to Lindsay since? Yeah she must be so haunted. :)

controlfreak
Oct 24th, 2006, 07:28 PM
I agree, I have never felt the year-end no.1 to be more important than the March, Juliet, or Octobruary no.1s :o

Okay, last year is still in most peoples' memories, but give me any year before that and I'll be guessing and bluffing.

The Daviator
Oct 24th, 2006, 07:33 PM
I knew someone was gonna say that. :lol:

Very predictable. But yeah I really don't...sorry. You can say the same thing for every negative thread about Maria. Maria's tennis does the talking and everyone knows where she stands despite the insults but I still bother to go in those threads sometimes and post what I have to say. It's part of being a member of a message board. So this isn't anything to flatter someone else by.

Maria is having a great year and if some double bagel from 2 yrs ago is what some hold onto, well then as I say go ahead. And really, Maria looked very much haunted by the IW ghost when she won IW this year noh? And when she hasn't lost to Lindsay since? Yeah she must be so haunted. :)

It was predictable, but what do you expect when you say you don't care and yet reply to every anti-Maria post in the thread :o

Btw, I have a lot more to hold onto than a double bagel, I also have 51 titles inc. 3 Slams and 98 weeks at #1, thanks :wavey: The DB is just an added treat :lol:

bellascarlett
Oct 24th, 2006, 07:54 PM
It was predictable, but what do you expect when you say you don't care and yet reply to every anti-Maria post in the thread :o

Btw, I have a lot more to hold onto than a double bagel, I also have 51 titles inc. 3 Slams and 98 weeks at #1, thanks :wavey: The DB is just an added treat :lol:

Uh yeah I don't think so. :lol:

I meant hold onto in her match-up against Maria. Sorry didn't make that clear enough. :o

Anyway, I'm sure it is a treat in itself. Who wouldn't want to double bagel a top 5 player? It is humiliation for them. It is Maria's worst result in terms of scoreline as you couldn't get anything worse than that. But the point is that as pathetic a scoreline as that double bagel was, Maria's 4-1 record against Lindsay and especially her Wimbledon win compensate for that. Some here seem to think otherwise and that was what I was alluding to.

CDGS22
Oct 24th, 2006, 07:58 PM
If Maria had finished number one last year when she held it for a short time, then all of the Maria fans would definatley be drooling about how great Maria is, and saying how important the year end number one ranking is. The moment she achieves that is the day that a million threads on this site is made for Maria.

Matt01
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:01 PM
one thing I don't understand the most about this thread is why can't people just simply believe Maria's word that she didn't remember? Heck some diehard tennis fans here don't remember either! :o

The "diehard tennis fans" who don't even remember who was No. 1 last year are no true tennis fans. :p

For Semipova, these kind of confessioons are understandable (since she is not a tennis fan but a tennis player who mainly focusses on her own carrer and not on others), but not for true fans. :p I'm watching and following women's tennis since 1991 and I can tell you the No. 1 year-end ranking player (and probably also No. 2 + 3 when I concentrate really hard :p ) for every year since then. :cool:

The Daviator
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:11 PM
Uh yeah I don't think so. :lol:

I meant hold onto in her match-up against Maria. Sorry didn't make that clear enough. :o

Anyway, I'm sure it is a treat in itself. Who wouldn't want to double bagel a top 5 player? It is humiliation for them. It is Maria's worst result in terms of scoreline as you couldn't get anything worse than that. But the point is that as pathetic a scoreline as that double bagel was, Maria's 4-1 record against Lindsay and especially her Wimbledon win compensate for that. Some here seem to think otherwise and that was what I was alluding to.

I agree, and I would definitely trade the DB for that Wimbledon semi, and as I have said, I acknowledge all of Maria's wins over Lindsay, some Maria fans (not you) don't seem to be able to acknowledge Lindsay's sole win though :rolleyes:

Anyway, I think we've exhausted the Davenport-Sharapova debate for now :lol:

terjw
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:12 PM
one thing I don't understand the most about this thread is why can't people just simply believe Maria's word that she didn't remember? Heck some diehard tennis fans here don't remember either! :o
there shouldn't be any arguments about this

Well that's what I think. I also think it's the same with most players. I don't believe the players have the same priorities as the fans. Lindsay was #1 at the end of last year. And she said just before the YEC last year that she thought Kim was number #1 until a friend told her that it was still her.

Players are always on about winning rather than rankings. And I don't think players care too much whether they lose/win 6-0 6-0 or 6-7 6-0 6-7. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. And winning is really the thing that matters to the players.

I don't believe all the rubbish about players when they play a few tournaments this time of year are just doing it for the rankings. There are other reasons. For a start there's pressure from the WTA. They have signed up to play 17 or 18 tournaments in their player committment contracts = 13 + 4 GS + YEC if they qualify.

WIMBLY2004
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:14 PM
I don't either :lol: was it Lindsay? :shrug:

It was, I thought it was Clijsters as she won USO and so many titles last year, but it was Davenport, it's tricky :lol:

LindsayRulz
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:24 PM
It was, I thought it was Clijsters as she won USO and so many titles last year, but it was Davenport, it's tricky :lol:

You just prove that you don't know a lot about tennis :lol:

WIMBLY2004
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:27 PM
Wait, why does a thread about Sharapova not remembering who ended last year number 1 lead to people talking about the infamous indian wells match? First of all, it is conceivable for Sharapova to not remember who finished number 1 last year. It's not an insult to Davenport, because honeslty, off the top of our heads, how many people can remember who finished number 1 5-6 years ago? And we are tennis fans, who follow tennis and talk tennis every day. Sharapova is a player. She doesnt need to think and follow all the tennis news when she has her own career to worry about. Again, it is not an insult to Lindsay. I'm sure that Sharapova remembers being arse-kicked by Lindsay as well as the fact that Lindsay was the number 1 player last year. There is no need for Davenport fans to attack her, and no need for Sharapova fans to defend at every little attack.

For the infamous match, it is in the past now. Both Dav and Sharapova has a trump card on each other. As humiliating as that 6-0, 6-0 defeat was, Davenport still has not been able to beat Sharapova aside from that one match. Sadly, I don't see Lindsay beating Sharapova anymore. She will forever hold onto that 6-0, 6-0 drubbing, which is pretty sad if you have to constantly revert to the one match that you beat your opponent in to make yourself feel better. But then Lindsay probably hardly gives a crap. She's given many 6-0, 6-0 drubbings. She's a legend. For her, it's just another match. I'm sure she'd trade it in any day for that Wimbledon semifinal. Anyways, my point is that we should not dwell on this constant fight between the two player's fans. I have never understood the huge amount of animosity between the two player's fans.

Great post :worship:

I think Davenport is a OK person, it's more likely to be Maria's haters or Davenport's fans who hold onto that 6-0, 6-0 drubbing to make themselves feel better than Davenport herself though.

WIMBLY2004
Oct 24th, 2006, 08:31 PM
You just prove that you don't know a lot about tennis :lol:

I don't plan to win the tennis trivia tournament to prove I know a lot about tennis then :lol:

Dan23
Oct 25th, 2006, 01:00 PM
Of course ;)

And despite all of these things, Maria has never comprehensively beaten Lindsay :lol:

There was, and still is, only one lop-sided match in their rivalry :devil:
You and Bis are a joke :lol:
How many years had Lindsay been playing in London? Yet she was so affected by the rain that a 17 y/o (who also had to build rythmn after the break) owned her
Believe what you will about IW 05 but Maria unwell which kills your 'comprehensive' theory

MH0861
Oct 25th, 2006, 01:02 PM
You and Bis are a joke :lol:
How many years had Lindsay been playing in London? Yet she was so affected by the rain that a 17 y/o (who also had to build rythmn after the break) owned her
Believe what you will about IW 05 but Maria unwell which kills your 'comprehensive' theory

IMO, there's no question Lindsay would've won the match if the rain didn't come - Lindsay played great and Maria was out of it - but, when they resumed play, it still went to a tiebreak, so Lindsay definitely had her chances. Further, there was NO excuse for her tanking and giving up in that third set to Maria.

LDF
Oct 25th, 2006, 01:22 PM
IMO, there's no question Lindsay would've won the match if the rain didn't come - Lindsay played great and Maria was out of it - but, when they resumed play, it still went to a tiebreak, so Lindsay definitely had her chances. Further, there was NO excuse for her tanking and giving up in that third set to Maria.

Exactly - Lindsay is a professional and the rain was no excuse for her display in the final set.

Doc
Oct 25th, 2006, 01:30 PM
I knew someone was gonna say that. :lol:

Very predictable. But yeah I really don't...sorry. You can say the same thing for every negative thread about Maria. Maria's tennis does the talking and everyone knows where she stands despite the insults but I still bother to go in those threads sometimes and post what I have to say. It's part of being a member of a message board. So this isn't anything to flatter someone else by.

Maria is having a great year and if some double bagel from 2 yrs ago is what some hold onto, well then as I say go ahead. And really, Maria looked very much haunted by the IW ghost when she won IW this year noh? And when she hasn't lost to Lindsay since? Yeah she must be so haunted. :)

Good post.

Everyone has an off-day, but Maria has loads and loads of top days since! :)

hurricanejeanne
Oct 25th, 2006, 01:33 PM
Exactly - Lindsay is a professional and the rain was no excuse for her display in the final set.

That day sucked.

LDF
Oct 25th, 2006, 01:33 PM
That day sucked.

Tell me about it :sad: :(

hurricanejeanne
Oct 25th, 2006, 01:42 PM
Tell me about it :sad: :(

Oh yeah. You know how psycho I can get. That day was the worst. It was a million times harder listening to her say "I don't think I'll be back." :sad:

LDF
Oct 25th, 2006, 01:44 PM
Oh yeah. You know how psycho I can get. That day was the worst. It was a million times harder listening to her say "I don't think I'll be back." :sad:

:lol:

But yeah, hearing her mention retirement like that was sad :sad:

hurricanejeanne
Oct 25th, 2006, 02:00 PM
:lol:

But yeah, hearing her mention retirement like that was sad :sad:

I won't go into details, but needless to say I was screaming in tongues at the tv. That turned to tears when she talked retirement afterwards. With the knee scare she had at the French it really seemed like she was going to bow out at the end of the season.
I could never had imagined what was just around the corner for her. Looking back it all seems like a dream.

And she's still here. :D

LDF
Oct 25th, 2006, 02:01 PM
I won't go into details, but needless to say I was screaming in tongues at the tv. That turned to tears when she talked retirement afterwards. With the knee scare she had at the French it really seemed like she was going to bow out at the end of the season.
I could never had imagined what was just around the corner for her. Looking back it all seems like a dream.

And she's still here. :D

I know, no-one expected her to go on that hard court sweep :eek:

Anyway, I think we should leave this thread now before any more arguments start/continue. :angel:

hurricanejeanne
Oct 25th, 2006, 02:12 PM
I know, no-one expected her to go on that hard court sweep :eek:

Anyway, I think we should leave this thread now before any more arguments start/continue. :angel:

Goodtimes. :)
Very true. But, like all threads, it will fall into oblivion. :angel: