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markhingis
Oct 22nd, 2006, 02:34 PM
I was watching the final.She is really slow,leaves some balls without trying to reach them.Her long legs seem to disturb her.
Maria's serve is really good,but readable,which Daniela is unable to do.

I cannot see her winning single titles with such poor on-court movement.

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Oct 22nd, 2006, 02:39 PM
i think she maybe tired i foind her normally a pretty fgood mover

Greenout
Oct 22nd, 2006, 02:54 PM
I was watching the final.She is really slow,leaves some balls without trying to reach them.Her long legs seem to disturb her.
Maria's serve is really good,but readable,which Daniela is unable to do.

I cannot see her winning single titles with such poor on-court movement.

I guess you don't remember 2002. ;)


I do, she use to beat Justine, and some player named Martina Hingis.


Anyway- her movement has never been great, but the Dani serve use to be really great. I don't know what happened to it nowadays? Maybe it's some sort of Monaco thing with double faults... :tape: ;)

Bad on court movement hasn't stopped alot of players with huge serves, so I can see her winning titles. I've seen less talented players win titles this year. She needs more than reading serves to win big, an all around improvement on slightly everything would help.

Justine Fan
Oct 22nd, 2006, 02:55 PM
I was watching the final.She is really slow,leaves some balls without trying to reach them.Her long legs seem to disturb her.
Maria's serve is really good,but readable,which Daniela is unable to do.

I cannot see her winning single titles with such poor on-court movement.

So .... which professional tennis player do you coach then? :rolleyes:

vesanto
Oct 22nd, 2006, 02:55 PM
Yeah, I agree with you, today she wasn't able to read Sharapova serve, which is very good, but she started the point with a big disadvantage.

Wintermute
Oct 22nd, 2006, 03:25 PM
Daniela's movement has never been a strength. In 2002 she could get away with this more but the way tennis has progressed I no longer think that's the case. I would compare her to Davenport as someone who is very good off the ground but not a great mover. Lindsay can afford not to run balls down because she can rely on her groundstrokes to make winners. Daniela leaves too small a margin of error and is more inconsistent and thus makes a lot more unforced errors on her strokes.

Personally I think Dani should spend the off-season working on speed training. If she added one extra step I think she could make better defensive shots and just make the opponent play one extra shot.

Regarding the serve return you've got to say that Maria has an excellent serve, particularly out wide on both sides, accurate and pacy, so it's hard to make a good return off it at the best of times.

azmad_88
Oct 22nd, 2006, 03:59 PM
daniela is quite slow for someone thin and small...i have to agree with that..but she definately hit with some pace at times

markhingis
Oct 22nd, 2006, 04:17 PM
I guess you don't remember 2002. ;)


I do, she use to beat Justine, and some player named Martina Hingis.



How could I forget IW 2002?I rememeber that final.It was windy and Martina played like a crap.
But from then on,Daniela hasn't beaten her,you know.

But from that 2002,Dani hasn't made any progress,IMO she's even gotten worse.Maybe till now,when she seems to get on track.

hollywood7172
Oct 22nd, 2006, 04:25 PM
I cannot see her winning single titles with such poor on-court movement.



daniela's "poor on-court movement" was good enough to put her in the finals and good enough forher to win indian wells 2002.



don't hate, i'm a marty fan too.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Oct 22nd, 2006, 04:28 PM
I simply don't agree. Her movement was fine today, unlikely some of her previous matches
this year. It's also har to read Maria's serve and then to return them. Dani did great work today and there's nothing to be ashamed of.

daniela-rocks2
Oct 22nd, 2006, 04:29 PM
How could I forget IW 2002?I rememeber that final.It was windy and Martina played like a crap.
But from then on,Daniela hasn't beaten her,you know.

But from that 2002,Dani hasn't made any progress,IMO she's even gotten worse.Maybe till now,when she seems to get on track.
you need to shut up- fast! she's the best, so much that she rocks ;)

Greenout
Oct 22nd, 2006, 04:31 PM
How could I forget IW 2002?I rememeber that final.It was windy and Martina played like a crap.
But from then on,Daniela hasn't beaten her,you know.

But from that 2002,Dani hasn't made any progress,IMO she's even gotten worse.Maybe till now,when she seems to get on track.


Martina didn't play like crap, she was stuck on the baseline trying to out defend the ball. There wasn't much going forward or changing the pace or style of shots in that match. It was Dani that was playing all court tennis- weird but it remind me alot of the Montreal match against Ana Ivanovic.

Anyway- true DH seems to be sort of in this middle gear, but there's no Sears anymore. The same could be said of Nadia, but she's picked up her game.

When you see Dani play and compare it to the silly hype of a Sania Mirza, it's really kind of a shame. There's so much game to improve, but I guess this is where the greats, the almost greats and the talented ones get seperated.

Jennifer North
Oct 22nd, 2006, 04:31 PM
Daniela's movement has never been a strength. In 2002 she could get away with this more but the way tennis has progressed I no longer think that's the case. I would compare her to Davenport as someone who is very good off the ground but not a great mover. Lindsay can afford not to run balls down because she can rely on her groundstrokes to make winners. Daniela leaves too small a margin of error and is more inconsistent and thus makes a lot more unforced errors on her strokes.

Personally I think Dani should spend the off-season working on speed training. If she added one extra step I think she could make better defensive shots and just make the opponent play one extra shot.

Regarding the serve return you've got to say that Maria has an excellent serve, particularly out wide on both sides, accurate and pacy, so it's hard to make a good return off it at the best of times.

that is a good assessment, unfortunately I don't see that happening any time soon, Hantuchova has one of the worst ethic works ever, always sullen, moody and negative, which reflects on her inability to turn things around once she falls behind. She is a very polite girl, but very distant and hard to reach for, sad and discreet smiles, often lonely and aloof. Beautiful strokes and heaps of talent, but very hard to be coached, and I seriously doubt if she's uded to giving 100% out there on the practice courts. Still not bad as someone like Jelena Dokic, for example, who'd rather spend her allocated practice time flirting and chatting away...

Lunaris
Oct 22nd, 2006, 05:24 PM
I can't believe what some people wrote. Her movement is bad, that's certain and it has been discussed so many times I tire of it. If you must know, she improved that part of the game. Her approach to the ball is certainly better than it was in previous years (and I have been following her since 2001). Do you know that she used to go running every morning for one hour? And about serve reading, it's one of her biggest weapons, Maria just served too good today. Her serve is difficult for anyone to return, that's the main reason why she is No. 3 and won Flushing Meadows. The reason why Maria won today is that she has more exp with these matches. And about Dani's lack of enthusiasm in practice, that is really ridiculous. Do you know why she lost so much weight in 2003? It was mainly because she trained so hard and her body just couldn't withstand the pressure.

Congrats to Maria for the title btw.

Wintermute
Oct 22nd, 2006, 05:40 PM
Hantuchova has one of the worst ethic works ever, always sullen, moody and negative, which reflects on her inability to turn things around once she falls behind.

Do you train with her? I'm sorry but I totally disagree. I think Daniela trains extremely hard, if anything she trains too hard. This was part of the cause of her weight loss a couple of years ago.

I think now she is trying to be a bit easier on herself and applying less pressure to herself during matches. At the moment her main psychological disadvantage is that she's not used to being in winning positions in finals - it's a hump she needs to get over and having watched her matches throughout this year she seems to be getting better at this. Today's match was very positive.

croat123
Oct 22nd, 2006, 05:41 PM
her movement is usually decent. she might have been a bit slow because she played so much this week. what worried me was her inability to effectively return maria's serve. i know it's tough because maria's first serve is great, but she's gonna have to improve in that department to have weeks like this one more consistently :)

fufuqifuqishahah
Oct 22nd, 2006, 05:59 PM
I simply don't agree. Her movement was fine today, unlikely some of her previous matches
this year. It's also har to read Maria's serve and then to return them. Dani did great work today and there's nothing to be ashamed of.

her movement in the kuznetsova match was fine....
not good... but good enough.

i think sometimes she just gets caught up in her own legs. her movement against justine at wimby this year was so strange and horrible.

Derek.
Oct 22nd, 2006, 06:58 PM
Hantuchova has one of the worst ethic works ever, always sullen, moody and negative, which reflects on her inability to turn things around once she falls behind.

WTF? :weirdo:

Daniela is one of the most hard-working players on the WTA Tour.

She believes she can get back into the top ten and so she's working as hard as she can to do so.

Nigel Sears always has said that Daniela works very hard, and sometimes he's had to stop her because at times she trains too much.

Like others have said, a reason for the weight loss in 2003 was exactly that, working too hard.

Daniela does NOT have a bad work ethic.

And she DOES turn things around in matches. She's been down a set and a break many times and has come back to win. Today in the final she lost the first set, but was able to turn it around to win the second set.

You obviously don't know very much about Daniela, therefore I suggest you keep your comments to yourself.

ASerenusFan
Oct 22nd, 2006, 07:29 PM
that is a good assessment, unfortunately I don't see that happening any time soon, Hantuchova has one of the worst ethic works ever, always sullen, moody and negative, which reflects on her inability to turn things around once she falls behind. She is a very polite girl, but very distant and hard to reach for, sad and discreet smiles, often lonely and aloof. Beautiful strokes and heaps of talent, but very hard to be coached, and I seriously doubt if she's uded to giving 100% out there on the practice courts. Still not bad as someone like Jelena Dokic, for example, who'd rather spend her allocated practice time flirting and chatting away...
:lol: wtf?
I cannot believe the way some posters here talk about players. Have you known Daniela personally and coached her for several years? How can you state these things about her "she's sad, lonely,aloof" like they are facts.

TJL
Oct 22nd, 2006, 09:19 PM
She didn't move well in the final, but IMO she moved quite well against Kuznetsova so I think she was just tired in the final. I think she has improved her movement quite a lot during this year and seems to be on a right path after her illness. Certainly she can improve her movement, but I would think that improving her second serve would be more vital to her game.

IceHock
Oct 22nd, 2006, 09:24 PM
that is a good assessment, unfortunately I don't see that happening any time soon, Hantuchova has one of the worst ethic works ever, always sullen, moody and negative, which reflects on her inability to turn things around once she falls behind. She is a very polite girl, but very distant and hard to reach for, sad and discreet smiles, often lonely and aloof. Beautiful strokes and heaps of talent, but very hard to be coached, and I seriously doubt if she's uded to giving 100% out there on the practice courts. Still not bad as someone like Jelena Dokic, for example, who'd rather spend her allocated practice time flirting and chatting away...

Well she must be doing something right because she just took a set off of the US Open champ whom she hasn't even taken a set off of since their first meeting, she is rarely negative anymore, you always see her bouncing up and down pumping herself up on almost every point, I suggest you close your mouth before something else retarded comes out of it.

franny
Oct 22nd, 2006, 11:53 PM
Um, not many people can read the Sharapova serve, and even if they can, not very many people can attack it. Ask Mauresmo and Henin, both can read the serve but can't really attack it. Not now at least since Sharapova has improved her serving since Wimbledon dramatically.

Justine Fan
Oct 23rd, 2006, 01:32 AM
Hantuchova has one of the worst ethic works ever, always sullen, moody and negative, which reflects on her inability to turn things around once she falls behind. She is a very polite girl, but very distant and hard to reach for, sad and discreet smiles, often lonely and aloof.

Do you know her personally then? How come? Oh you're not that gay guy that works for the WTA who goes up to all the players after they have won a match are you? You know, the one with the strawberry blonde short hair?

Beautiful strokes and heaps of talent, but very hard to be coached

When did you coach her? Were you at Eastbourne then? If you were, I might have seen you. You weren't that tiny little Spanish guy who used to be her coach, you know the one with the moustache? The reason I ask is because if you were then you'd know that Daniela was out there from dawn till dusk practising, practising and practising. I went every day to Eastbourne and she was the only one that was on the practice court far, far longer than any other player. The other players were out there for about 2 hours a day (JHH did twice a day), but Daniela was out there far longer than any of the others!

Still not bad as someone like Jelena Dokic, for example, who'd rather spend her allocated practice time flirting and chatting away...

Oh .... so you know Dokic as well? So you must be that guy that looks after the players after they have won a match! Go on .... you can tell us, we won't say anything to anyone! ;)

Jennifer, have you forgotten to take your Prozac? :rolleyes:

Some of the time I do like your posts because they are quite down to earth, but there's a fine line with down to earth and very, very negative to the point of depression. Is there a reason such negativity? OK, posters do, once in a while post negative posts about players (I do myself), but not all the damn time. Yours are all the time. You don't have one good word to say about anything! :sad: