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frenchie
Oct 21st, 2006, 12:53 PM
:lol: :lol:
Remember that in Zurich, coaching is allowed :tape: :help:

furrykitten
Oct 21st, 2006, 12:53 PM
First one appears :p

double-fault
Oct 21st, 2006, 12:54 PM
:lol:

Sharapova's_Boy
Oct 21st, 2006, 12:57 PM
!!11!1!1!1!!!!!!!!!!!11111

Edward.
Oct 21st, 2006, 12:58 PM
Omfg Lulz!!! 111 1 1 1 11

Ben.
Oct 21st, 2006, 01:00 PM
another one of those maria thread bashers as usual. i'm not a huge fan of maria but it's actually not that surprising that she got a warning in a match due 2 her father coaching by saying a few words from the sideline without the use of the on-court coaching rule. it's happened b4

so 2 me this is just old news.

Blinky
Oct 21st, 2006, 01:00 PM
I don't get it! ;)

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 21st, 2006, 01:01 PM
:haha: Gotta love Yuri and Maria.

jamatthews
Oct 21st, 2006, 01:02 PM
I wish she'd got a code of conduct violation for telling him to *%!£ off.

Martyś
Oct 21st, 2006, 01:02 PM
Vamos Yuri :haha:

SloKid
Oct 21st, 2006, 01:03 PM
Carlos Ramos gave him the warning and Maria was like are you kidding me and he said no, I'm not kidding.
He also said that he didn't get what he said to her, but he talked to her and that is not allowed.

Blinky
Oct 21st, 2006, 01:04 PM
I wish she'd got a code of conduct violation for telling him to *%!£ off.
So did she actually do that & did she actually get a warning?

ioni
Oct 21st, 2006, 01:46 PM
:help:

Dasha_
Oct 21st, 2006, 02:09 PM
No way! She was warned?

RenaSlam.
Oct 21st, 2006, 02:11 PM
:lol:

But is anyone really surpriseD?

johnoo
Oct 21st, 2006, 02:20 PM
I'm sure Srebotnik went and thanked the umpire after the match for getting sharapova pumped up after the warning and not losing a game after it :p

bellascarlett
Oct 21st, 2006, 02:49 PM
I'm sure Srebotnik went and thanked the umpire after the match for getting sharapova pumped up after the warning and not losing a game after it :p

JUST AS I THOUGHT. :haha: :rolls:

A pissed off Maria only gets more dangerous. :armed: :bounce:

illianna
Oct 21st, 2006, 05:18 PM
when the umpire warned her she said "You have got to be kidding me" and he answered "I'm not" ..It was a funny situation and it was not good for Srebotnik :)

Veenut
Oct 21st, 2006, 05:51 PM
when the umpire warned her she said "You have got to be kidding me" and he answered "I'm not" ..It was a funny situation and it was not good for Srebotnik :)

You can bet her fanatics will be thinking this is no big deal but refusing legal coaching to continue on the "illegal" path reflects on her true character. I hope more umpires expose this and she gets the penalty she deserves for these frequent violations. :devil:

LH2HBH
Oct 21st, 2006, 05:59 PM
I'm a big fan of Maria Sharapova and I think this is a good thing. I think Maria does not need Yuri and his antics and it's someone needs to tell him to shut up.

Maria claims to ignore him anyway (bananas notwithstanding). As far as I am concerned it would be one less thing for the haters to hate over and she would just keep winning anyway :rolleyes:

iPatty
Oct 21st, 2006, 06:01 PM
Yuri. :rolleyes:

Someone needs to put a muzzle on him!

jacobruiz
Oct 21st, 2006, 06:08 PM
You can bet her fanatics will be thinking this is no big deal but refusing legal coaching to continue on the "illegal" path reflects on her true character. I hope more umpires expose this and she gets the penalty she deserves for these frequent violations. :devil:


You sure expend a lot of time and energy hating on Maria, don't you?

Maria likes Yuri to be there at her matches but I think she wishes he would keep silent and clap. Yuri's compulsion to yell things does not reflect on Maria's character imo; but rather his own inability to control himself. Even if he is just cheering on Maria, because he is yelling in Russian people assume the worst; I wish he would just be quiet to end this controversy.

Veenut
Oct 21st, 2006, 06:29 PM
[QUOTE]You sure expend a lot of time and energy hating on Maria, don't you?

As much time and energy you spend tracking what I have to say about her therefore we are all square. ;)

Maria likes Yuri to be there at her matches but I think she wishes he would keep silent and clap. Yuri's compulsion to yell things does not reflect on Maria's character imo; but rather his own inability to control himself. Even if he is just cheering on Maria, because he is yelling in Russian people assume the worst; I wish he would just be quiet to end this controversy.[/QUOTE

Obviously you are too close to the forest. :rolleyes: If you believe all that BS I choose to reserve my time and energy on to hate on Maria instead of you. ;) BTW red dots don't quell me. :wavey:

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 21st, 2006, 06:31 PM
You can bet her fanatics will be thinking this is no big deal but refusing legal coaching to continue on the "illegal" path reflects on her true character. I hope more umpires expose this and she gets the penalty she deserves for these frequent violations. :devil:

Dunno. Let's talk about character.

When you weigh match-fixing :devil: vs a code violation for coaching????

Which is the lesser of evils here?

Well, you see my point. ;)

Brooks.
Oct 21st, 2006, 06:38 PM
when the umpire warned her she said "You have got to be kidding me" and he answered "I'm not" ..It was a funny situation and it was not good for Srebotnik :)

:rolleyes:

she's a spoiled brat...what does she think she is above the rules or something?

Veenut
Oct 21st, 2006, 06:51 PM
Dunno. Let's talk about character.

When you weigh match-fixing :devil: vs a code violation for coaching????

Which is the lesser of evils here?

Well, you see my point. ;)

No I don't. I based my argument on the FACTS not on figments of my imagination. Try again mi lawd ;)

Dasha_
Oct 21st, 2006, 06:59 PM
You can bet her fanatics will be thinking this is no big deal but refusing legal coaching to continue on the "illegal" path reflects on her true character. I hope more umpires expose this and she gets the penalty she deserves for these frequent violations. :devil:

So thrue..... :worship:

Dasha_
Oct 21st, 2006, 07:01 PM
:rolleyes:

she's a spoiled brat...what does she think she is above the rules or something?


she sure is spoiled, but brat.... isn't she a little bit to old for that?

jacobruiz
Oct 21st, 2006, 07:05 PM
:rolleyes:

she's a spoiled brat...what does she think she is above the rules or something?


I don't think that's it. I haven't seen the incident yet, but Yuri always yells in Russian and unless the umpire speaks Russian, he doesn't know what Yuri said and Maria does, if she heard him. If he said something harmless she might have answered thinking :rolleyes: what next?

Lunaris
Oct 21st, 2006, 07:10 PM
That's why Maria is against on court coaching, she loses big advantage when others use it as well. ;)

hotandspicey
Oct 21st, 2006, 07:28 PM
maria thinks she's above the law. news flash..NOT. yuri needs to chill with that nonsense, or maria might end up being disqualified from a match.

bis2806
Oct 21st, 2006, 07:35 PM
Typical Maria!

bis2806
Oct 21st, 2006, 07:36 PM
I don't think that's it. I haven't seen the incident yet, but Yuri always yells in Russian and unless the umpire speaks Russian, he doesn't know what Yuri said and Maria does, if she heard him. If he said something harmless she might have answered thinking :rolleyes: what next?

You don't NEED to see the incident. Maria is getting coaching either way :rolleyes: Obviously she does not make enough "effort" to tell Yuri to shut his trap if he's still watching her matches. Dumbass.

faboozadoo15
Oct 21st, 2006, 07:45 PM
she reacted the way she did to the chair ump not because she thinks she's above the rules but because she didn't hear what her dad said/ didn't hear him at all, and the chair didn't know what he had said either...

harloo
Oct 21st, 2006, 08:03 PM
Maria is a beast people. She has been programmed to win at all costs and could give a damn about what you, me, or anyone thinks about her. Their is nothing anyone can do about it but step up and beat her. Unfortunately most of the players on the WTA are not capable of doing so.

We are talking about a young lady who NEVER cried when Yuri left her to train in the states alone. She's robotic but that's because of her drive and determination to win. I wouldn't expect anything less from Maria. Maybe with time and maturity she will come out of this phase but right now it's not happening. So these types of threads are becoming pointless.

bellascarlett
Oct 21st, 2006, 08:27 PM
oh so saying "are you kidding me?" as a reaction to a warning given by the umpire for something yuri said the umpire didn't even comprehend to begin with is now maria thinking she's above the law?

yeah okay. go ahead and watch more tennis. men's tennis as well. let's see how uncommon it is for people given warnings for any reason to react this way.

starr
Oct 21st, 2006, 08:46 PM
maria thinks she's above the law. news flash..NOT. yuri needs to chill with that nonsense, or maria might end up being disqualified from a match.

I like Maria, but if that is what it takes for Yuri to learn to curb himself, I'm all for it.

starr
Oct 21st, 2006, 08:47 PM
Maria is a beast people.


Aren't you one of the people who complained when journalists would use words like "tiger" etc. to describe Serena?

anlavalle
Oct 21st, 2006, 10:15 PM
Carlos Ramos gave him the warning and Maria was like are you kidding me and he said no, I'm not kidding.
He also said that he didn't get what he said to her, but he talked to her and that is not allowed.

:haha: :rolls:

Mileen
Oct 21st, 2006, 10:19 PM
You can bet her fanatics will be thinking this is no big deal but refusing legal coaching to continue on the "illegal" path reflects on her true character. I hope more umpires expose this and she gets the penalty she deserves for these frequent violations. :devil:

Agreed.

perseus2006
Oct 21st, 2006, 10:34 PM
VeeReeFan: "she's a spoiled brat...what does she think she is above the rules or something?"

Pova is as spoiled as it is possible for an only child to be with parents who are absolutely and completely devoted to the girl and her dreams. Lucky Kid!

Pova is very exceptional in many ways. Consequently, many of the rules simply don't apply to her. It isn't that she is "above the rules", it's more like she is "beyond the rules".

It is amazing that, with all of these advantages, Pova remains such a well grounded, focused, delightful kid who is a joy to encounter on or off the court!

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 21st, 2006, 10:40 PM
JUST AS I THOUGHT. :haha: :rolls:

A pissed off Maria only gets more dangerous. :armed: :bounce:

Absolute truth.

It does seem as though Maria feeds off controversy.

A pissed Maria is a dangerous Maria indeed. :cool:

SJW
Oct 21st, 2006, 10:48 PM
That's why Maria is against on court coaching, she loses big advantage when others use it as well. ;)

LOLz. True.

perseus2006
Oct 21st, 2006, 10:49 PM
JUST AS I THOUGHT. :haha: :rolls:

A pissed off Maria only gets more dangerous. :armed: :bounce:

Indeed. It is not a safe practice to tweak the whiskers of a Siberian Tiger!!!

BARBIE
Oct 22nd, 2006, 12:13 AM
Indeed. It is not a safe practice to tweak the whiskers of a Siberian Tiger!!!


:haha: :haha: :haha:

harloo
Oct 22nd, 2006, 12:44 AM
Aren't you one of the people who complained when journalists would use words like "tiger" etc. to describe Serena?

starr, I wasn't referring to an animal.

A beast= warrior

I guess you've never heard the term before.
:)

Veenut
Oct 22nd, 2006, 01:00 AM
Coaching contributes to Sharapova, Kuznetsova wins
Slipping Nadal loses to Berdych

By Chris Bowers and Ron Cioffi, ********************


Cynthia Lum
Maria Sharapova called on hitting partner Michael Joyce to get her out of a "desperate" situation.

FROM THE ZURICH OPEN ? Maria Sharapova is through to the semifinals of the Zurich Open, the last Tier 1 event of the year on the Sony Ericsson WTA Tour, but found herself having to deny that she had fallen victim to a bout of desperation.

The accusation was largely of her own making. The Zurich Open is witnessing the latest in an experiment begun in Montreal in August whereby players can consult their coach ? or a person they have designated as their coach ? at the end of each set. Sharapova has been a vehement opponent of the scheme, and said on Tuesday that she?d ?have to be desperate? to call for her coach mid-match as that would signal to her opponent that she was in trouble.

It therefore raised a few eyebrows when, after a tough first set against the rising Israeli Shahar Peer on Thursday night, Sharapova summoned her hitting partner Michael Joyce onto her bench for a consultation. When asked about this later, she said she just wanted to refresh herself about aspects of her game plan agreed with Joyce in advance.

?But you did call for him?? the questioner repeated.

?Yeah, I did,? replied Sharapova neutrally.
?But you said you?d only call for your coach in the middle of a match if you were desperate,? asked another questioner. ?So were you desperate??

?Ah, that?s a good point, you?ve caught me on that one,? admitted Sharapova, and giggled nervously. After a further consultation with Joyce in her 6-4, 6-3 quarterfinal win Friday against the 17-year-old Swiss Timea Bascinszky, she explained, ?If the rule gives me a choice, I may as well use it, but if they ask me if I like it, I?d say 'Bag it.' I don't support it. I haven?t from the beginning. It?s like electronic line calling ? if it?s there, you may as well use it even if you don?t like it, it would be stupid not to. But personally I don?t like it.?

-Sonic-
Oct 22nd, 2006, 02:15 AM
Give the girl a break, she doesn't even know when she's hungry or thirsty, she has to be told when to take a drink or eat a banana........ you didn't expect her to use her weenie little brain to figure out how to win a complicated tennis match do u?

has anyone ever seen her do her own shoelaces up before?

Rocketta
Oct 22nd, 2006, 02:33 AM
Coaching contributes to Sharapova, Kuznetsova wins
Slipping Nadal loses to Berdych

By Chris Bowers and Ron Cioffi, ********************


Cynthia Lum
Maria Sharapova called on hitting partner Michael Joyce to get her out of a "desperate" situation.

FROM THE ZURICH OPEN ? Maria Sharapova is through to the semifinals of the Zurich Open, the last Tier 1 event of the year on the Sony Ericsson WTA Tour, but found herself having to deny that she had fallen victim to a bout of desperation.

The accusation was largely of her own making. The Zurich Open is witnessing the latest in an experiment begun in Montreal in August whereby players can consult their coach ? or a person they have designated as their coach ? at the end of each set. Sharapova has been a vehement opponent of the scheme, and said on Tuesday that she?d ?have to be desperate? to call for her coach mid-match as that would signal to her opponent that she was in trouble.

It therefore raised a few eyebrows when, after a tough first set against the rising Israeli Shahar Peer on Thursday night, Sharapova summoned her hitting partner Michael Joyce onto her bench for a consultation. When asked about this later, she said she just wanted to refresh herself about aspects of her game plan agreed with Joyce in advance.

?But you did call for him?? the questioner repeated.

?Yeah, I did,? replied Sharapova neutrally.
?But you said you?d only call for your coach in the middle of a match if you were desperate,? asked another questioner. ?So were you desperate??

?Ah, that?s a good point, you?ve caught me on that one,? admitted Sharapova, and giggled nervously. After a further consultation with Joyce in her 6-4, 6-3 quarterfinal win Friday against the 17-year-old Swiss Timea Bascinszky, she explained, ?If the rule gives me a choice, I may as well use it, but if they ask me if I like it, I?d say 'Bag it.' I don't support it. I haven?t from the beginning. It?s like electronic line calling ? if it?s there, you may as well use it even if you don?t like it, it would be stupid not to. But personally I don?t like it.?

ah, if you use it you're supporting it. :unsure:

markspot
Oct 22nd, 2006, 02:45 AM
Give the girl a break, she doesn't even know when she's hungry or thirsty, she has to be told when to take a drink or eat a banana........ you didn't expect her to use her weenie little brain to figure out how to win a complicated tennis match do u?

has anyone ever seen her do her own shoelaces up before?

That is exactly true, she forgets to drink and to eat,
but reminding about it is not coaching, she could ask the umpire to remind her, or perhaps put a written reminder by her chair.

She likes to change the racquet with new balls, and again and again
she forgets to do it, she then has to change it after the first point already played. That proves how forgetful she is.

As to what her father might be telling her, she probably never hears it anyway. And even if she heard his "davai" as russian commentator said he shouts, so what. Ridiculous.
Here we had a situation, where she heard nothing, the umpire heard something, perhaps some encouragement or whatever,
and again a new thread and she is a vilain.
Why am I not surprised.

Are you people blind?
Haven't you watched US Open?
Haven't you seen some real intense coaching going on?
But of course, not Sharapova, so that is ok.

Sharapova's_Boy
Oct 22nd, 2006, 05:46 AM
is that casanova? :tape:

:haha:

bis2806
Oct 22nd, 2006, 08:59 AM
That is exactly true, she forgets to drink and to eat,
but reminding about it is not coaching, she could ask the umpire to remind her, or perhaps put a written reminder by her chair.

She likes to change the racquet with new balls, and again and again
she forgets to do it, she then has to change it after the first point already played. That proves how forgetful she is.

As to what her father might be telling her, she probably never hears it anyway. And even if she heard his "davai" as russian commentator said he shouts, so what. Ridiculous.
Here we had a situation, where she heard nothing, the umpire heard something, perhaps some encouragement or whatever,
and again a new thread and she is a vilain.
Why am I not surprised.

Are you people blind?
Haven't you watched US Open?
Haven't you seen some real intense coaching going on?
But of course, not Sharapova, so that is ok.

I think we should stick to the topic here and not divert to other players. No we are not blind, but apparently you are. First it was your lame try of trying to attack Peer by posting a video capture in which Sharapova was seen to be not ready receiving serve. Now this crap about how Maria is forgetful and she probably never hears things that her father shouts from the stands? Please, stop this nonsense.

KimC&MariaSNo1's
Oct 22nd, 2006, 10:29 AM
here we go

Mileen
Oct 22nd, 2006, 10:38 AM
Finally!
She should get more warnings in the future.
I'm so glad she finally got warned! The umpire: :worship:

franny
Oct 22nd, 2006, 10:44 AM
We dont' even know if she was being coached. Lol, the umpire doesn't know what Yuri said to her, yet can give her a warning for coaching? Geesh, so from now on, no one is allowed to yell encouragement from the stands, cuz that's coaching.

Dan23
Oct 22nd, 2006, 11:02 AM
It seems that Mr Ramos might have been looking for any sign of communication to whack a warning on them because to give a warning without knowing what was said (or if it was even heard) is pretty tough. Anyhow its Yuri getting the warning not Maria so its up to him to sort it out.

Dan23
Oct 22nd, 2006, 11:05 AM
I think we should stick to the topic here and not divert to other players. No we are not blind, but apparently you are. First it was your lame try of trying to attack Peer by posting a video capture in which Sharapova was seen to be not ready receiving serve. Now this crap about how Maria is forgetful and she probably never hears things that her father shouts from the stands? Please, stop this nonsense.
You are the master of nonsense...Maria is forgetful of some things she needs to do during matches...and you cant prove otherwise

bis2806
Oct 22nd, 2006, 04:32 PM
You are the master of nonsense...Maria is forgetful of some things she needs to do during matches...and you cant prove otherwise

So then let's make it okay for coaches to remind their players when to hit backhands or make loopy shots :lol:

jacobruiz
Oct 22nd, 2006, 04:50 PM
We dont' even know if she was being coached. Lol, the umpire doesn't know what Yuri said to her, yet can give her a warning for coaching? Geesh, so from now on, no one is allowed to yell encouragement from the stands, cuz that's coaching.


True. If Maria gets a warning because Yuri yells something the umpire can't understand (and isn't sure Maria even heard) then to be equally fair every player's coaches and family member/coaches should not be allowed to yell anything during a match. Good luck enforcing that, however.

bis2806
Oct 22nd, 2006, 05:03 PM
We dont' even know if she was being coached. Lol, the umpire doesn't know what Yuri said to her, yet can give her a warning for coaching? Geesh, so from now on, no one is allowed to yell encouragement from the stands, cuz that's coaching.

Is your intelligence level that low? Even if the umpire does not understand what is being said to Maria, any sort of suspicious communication from the stands or making signs towards a player is considered cheating. Yelling words of encouragement and communicating what tactics to use are two different hings.

And stop with the crap that Maria can't hear what Yuri says from the stands. That man is obnoxiously as loud as anyone can be.

rjd1111
Oct 23rd, 2006, 01:18 PM
:lol: :lol:
Remember that in Zurich, coaching is allowed :tape: :help:


Not from the peanut gallery.

goldenlox
Oct 23rd, 2006, 02:21 PM
At the US Open, they said her coach giving her hand signals wasn't coaching.
If that's not coaching, what is?

griffin
Oct 23rd, 2006, 05:00 PM
True. If Maria gets a warning because Yuri yells something the umpire can't understand (and isn't sure Maria even heard) then to be equally fair every player's coaches and family member/coaches should not be allowed to yell anything during a match. Good luck enforcing that, however.

Considering how many languages the player's speak, I think it's unreasonable to expect an umpire to be fluent enough to tell the difference between coaching and exchanging cake recipies in another language - so yes I think beyond a simple "vamos" "allez" or "bravo"-type yell, should be considered grounds for warning for everyone.

That said, if someone has a history of questionable communications with their parents/coaches, I think it's perfectly reasonable for umpires to be on the lookout for finger-waving and fruit-hanging, and be less willing to give soemone the benefit of the doubt on "cheering"

hotandspicey
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:13 PM
Considering how many languages the player's speak, I think it's unreasonable to expect an umpire to be fluent enough to tell the difference between coaching and exchanging cake recipies in another language - so yes I think beyond a simple "vamos" "allez" or "bravo"-type yell, should be considered grounds for warning for everyone.

That said, if someone has a history of questionable communications with their parents/coaches, I think it's perfectly reasonable for umpires to be on the lookout for finger-waving and fruit-hanging, and be less willing to give soemone the benefit of the doubt on "cheering"
:lol:

jacobruiz
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:17 PM
Considering how many languages the player's speak, I think it's unreasonable to expect an umpire to be fluent enough to tell the difference between coaching and exchanging cake recipies in another language - so yes I think beyond a simple "vamos" "allez" or "bravo"-type yell, should be considered grounds for warning for everyone.

That said, if someone has a history of questionable communications with their parents/coaches, I think it's perfectly reasonable for umpires to be on the lookout for finger-waving and fruit-hanging, and be less willing to give soemone the benefit of the doubt on "cheering"


I agree except I don't think any fair umpire should start out the match with prejudicial thinking against or in favor of any player.

the cat
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:22 PM
Goldenlox is at it again. :( How is being told by hand signals to drink your drink and eat a banana coaching?

Good points by Griffin. But enforcing penalties against Maria for receving coaching from the stands will be hard to enforce. Partly becauae she's Maria Sharapova. It's not right but that's the way it is. Then you have the difficulty for the chair umpire of discerning whether Maria is receiving hand signals to eat a banana or receiving coaching. The funny thing is all these blatant hand signals didn't start as far as I know until she played the 2006 U.S. Open. I don't ever recall her father or any of her coahces blatantly giving her hand signals to drink and eat a banana until this years U.S. Open.

griffin
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:30 PM
I agree except I don't think any fair umpire should start out the match with prejudicial thinking against or in favor of any player.

I agree - but "prejudice" involves an unfounded or irrational pre-concieved idea. If someone has a history of coaching violations, being suspicious or keeping a closer watch on them is neither unfounded nor irrational.

Rocketta
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:31 PM
wait, if you are a player who cramps but in the heat of the moment you forget to drink and eat as much as you should......it is indeed coaching if your coach then reminds to do so. It changes the natural order of the match because Stamina is part of the battle and if you cramp then you didn't do the things necessary to win. I don't understand how Maria fans can not call that coaching/cheating by her dad/hitting partner. :( I really don't see how that is any different than if they gave her a signal to go back to the backhand like their game plan? :confused:

the cat
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:35 PM
Rocketta, Masha never needed any blatant coaching from the stands to drink and eat until the 2006 U.S. Open. It just doesn't make sense to me. If she can't remember to drink and eat during a tennis match she is lost. But I can't believe that's the case because she played the first 4 plus years of her career without the blatant reminders from her team to drink and eat.

starr
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:36 PM
I agree - but "prejudice" involves an unfounded or irrational pre-concieved idea. If someone has a history of coaching violations, being suspicious or keeping a closer watch on them is neither unfounded nor irrational.

Prejudice also means injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims

It's no more fair to decide that Yuri is coaching Maria because he has done so in the past than it is to decide that someone is guilty of a crime just because he has commited crimes in the past.

That said, Yuri just needs to shut up.... whether or not he's coaching and whether or not Maria hears him or pays attention to what he says.

jacobruiz
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:46 PM
wait, if you are a player who cramps but in the heat of the moment you forget to drink and eat as much as you should......it is indeed coaching if your coach then reminds to do so. It changes the natural order of the match because Stamina is part of the battle and if you cramp then you didn't do the things necessary to win. I don't understand how Maria fans can not call that coaching/cheating by her dad/hitting partner. :( I really don't see how that is any different than if they gave her a signal to go back to the backhand like their game plan? :confused:


Well, Maria has never cramped before in a match so she isn't what you would call a player who cramps.... As far as the "natural order of the match" a banana is no more likely to change that than the cheering on and encouragement given a player by her box or the crowd sometimes can.

Besides, since the officials involved decided that the signals did not constitute "illegal coaching", why would Maria's fans think otherwise? :shrug:

Rocketta
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:46 PM
Rocketta, Masha never needed any blatant coaching from the stands to drink and eat until the 2006 U.S. Open. It just doesn't make sense to me. If she can't remember to drink and eat during a tennis match she is lost. But I can't believe that's the case because she played the first 4 plus years of her career without the blatant reminders from her team to drink and eat.

I haven't a clue what Team Masha is thinking by doing that. :confused: The blatancy of it is also off puting. I do know they wouldn't do it if they didn't think it was going to benefit Maria which makes it coaching/cheating, imho.

the cat
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:53 PM
Then the WTA Tour needs to address the issue because it doesn't make women's tennis or Sharapova look good.

LH2HBH
Oct 23rd, 2006, 06:56 PM
I haven't a clue what Team Masha is thinking by doing that. :confused: The blatancy of it is also off puting. I do know they wouldn't do it if they didn't think it was going to benefit Maria which makes it coaching/cheating, imho.

I think this brings up an interesting point. Is it possible that Maria and her camp are doing this to stir controversy in the press and media, thereby raising her profile even more? All celebrities know that even bad attention is good attention.

Rocketta
Oct 23rd, 2006, 07:40 PM
Then the WTA Tour needs to address the issue because it doesn't make women's tennis or Sharapova look good.

They do need to address it but will they is the big question. ;)

the cat
Oct 23rd, 2006, 07:45 PM
Yes they will investigate it Rocky. Larry Scott will take a close look at Maria's being allegedly coached from the stands by her father and travelling coach and decide it's not really coaching because they are allegedly only telling Maria to drink and eat. ;)

rjd1111
Oct 23rd, 2006, 08:25 PM
[QUOTE=markspot]That is exactly true, she forgets to drink and to eat,
but reminding about it is not coaching, she could ask the umpire to remind her, or perhaps put a written reminder by her chair.

She likes to change the racquet with new balls, and again and again
she forgets to do it, she then has to change it after the first point already played. That proves how forgetful she is.


Maybe the Radiation is finally affecting her Brain.

bis2806
Oct 23rd, 2006, 09:01 PM
Why is this Maria debate still continuing? The story is simple: Maria got a warning and that means she cheated. End of story. If she was not being reminded to eat bananas, she was being reminded of what kind of other tactics she can employ towards her opponent.