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go hingis
Oct 19th, 2006, 01:43 AM
New technology means the racquets can generate more power and each year they seem to be getting more and more powerful.
I read in another thread that Golf has the same technology but have limits on what the pro's can use on tour. So there is actual skill involved.

Our current players all learnt to play the game and hit different shots from young and today there's still some variety. As times past with new racquets will we still see some variety or will everyone be playing power tennis, and will the tallest be dominating as they can generate more power.

Do you think the WTA and ATP tour should have some limit on Racquets or Not?

go hingis
Oct 19th, 2006, 01:46 AM
I say yes, as I watch more and more mens tennis the whole match is based on the first serve, not much rallies, etc.

supergrunt
Oct 19th, 2006, 02:01 AM
Basically your just talking about the Williams sisters. :rolleyes: I really think that the tennis a player produces is a result of talent and not the racquet. Don't worry though Serena is getting a new smaller racquet and then you won't have to bitch about anything. :)

einna
Oct 19th, 2006, 02:07 AM
I don't think they should have limitations on racquets. Surely no pro player really relies totally on their racquets to win their matches. And it's just the way tennis evolves, having new and better tools :)

go hingis
Oct 19th, 2006, 02:07 AM
Basically your just talking about the Williams sisters. :rolleyes: I really think that the tennis a player produces is a result of talent and not the racquet. Don't worry though Serena is getting a new smaller racquet and then you won't have to bitch about anything. :)

yeah because lately I've been watching so much of the Williams sisters and have them on my mind.

I don't even think Serena and Venus play only with power, they did at the beginning but now they use so much more than just raw power. They have a complete game and arn't like the young guns coming up with the one two punch and no back up plan. I do think you need skill to play power tennis the timing still has to be there etc. I just think in times to come it might only be power.

Maybe you should stop assuming Shit or bringing your faves into everything:)

Lefty.
Oct 19th, 2006, 02:08 AM
Basically your just talking about the Williams sisters. :rolleyes: I really think that the tennis a player produces is a result of talent and not the racquet. Don't worry though Serena is getting a new smaller racquet and then you won't have to bitch about anything. :)

Since when did go hingis ever mention the Williams sisters? They were talking about racquets in general.

jbeacinu
Oct 19th, 2006, 02:09 AM
I want spaghetti strings! lol It's kind of like baseball all those old records using those old wooden bats..still use wood bats :)

WIMBLY2004
Oct 19th, 2006, 02:23 AM
I say no, because the technology is there, amateur players will use those rackets, I don't want to watch pro tennis if amateur players look faster and stronger. It will give the false impression that even amateurs can beat the pro.

go hingis
Oct 19th, 2006, 02:36 AM
nice point Wimbly2004. I would rep but sorry I've given out to much.

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 19th, 2006, 02:39 AM
No, becuase if everyone has access to this technology then nobody is being given an unfair advantage anyway.

Plus, power tennis = love.

Benchwarmer1
Oct 19th, 2006, 04:01 AM
i voted "it doesn't bother me", it doesn't mainly because when this new technology breaks out the players should learn to adapt to the power and the evolving game that comes to them. i can't really take a side though. on the other hand, playing with more classic racquets would have a more classic style of play and people would be able to compare the players in terms of greatness from generation to generation.

supergrunt
Oct 19th, 2006, 04:06 AM
So when writing this thread you didn't think of the Williams sisters and their giant head racquets? :)

go hingis
Oct 19th, 2006, 04:18 AM
To be honest I wouldn't know which racquet they use, the thought came into my mind 2.00am this morning I couldn't sleep and was watching Murray and Ljubicic.

IMO the Williams sisters play with power but can also mix it up, they don't just bash the ball. I'm thinking about players learning to play now, are they learning the different shots or are they just banging the ball around? What will we be watching in years to come, technique, strategy, placement etc or just heavy hitting?

rockstar
Oct 19th, 2006, 04:33 AM
there's balance in everything - more power = less control, even though almost every racket advertises 'power with control' or something like that..

pengluv
Oct 19th, 2006, 05:27 AM
imo it really shouldnt matter. So what if racquets produce more power. Some players use brute power like the william sisters and some spin like patty. Each racquet has its own advantages n disadvantages. You shouldnt worry about the future just being brute tennis. Its just now most sucessful players are power players like the william sisters. Sometime later a new group of super patty or muresmos will come which will balance things out with variety again.

darrinbaker00
Oct 19th, 2006, 05:41 AM
Yes, yes, and furthermore, yes. As we have clearly seen this year with the women, the oversized racquets have led to improper technique being the norm, which has led to all the injuries. If you can't play with a 95 square-inch frame, you don't belong at that level.

Marcus Jordan
Oct 19th, 2006, 05:54 AM
My racquet has holes at 9-o'clock and 3-o'clock. It allows for extra control, they say when you play a shot it keeps the ball on the strings for longer. Head Flexpoint Radical. Its actually the same model of racquet Agassi was using in his last match. :wavey:

darrinbaker00
Oct 19th, 2006, 05:57 AM
My racquet has holes at 9-o'clock and 3'clock. It allows for extra control, they say when you play a shot it keeps the ball on the strings for longer. Head Flexpoint Radical. :wavey:
You bought the racquet, so what they said obviously worked. ;)

Marcus Jordan
Oct 19th, 2006, 06:07 AM
I think it was a good buy and it provides greater control than the Head Radical Titanium which is now my backup racquet. I also bought some PEPSI LIGHT, and that was also a good buy and provides greater taste than PEPSI. :umbrella:

darrinbaker00
Oct 20th, 2006, 11:31 PM
Bumpers!

Paialii
Oct 20th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Pros DO have restrictions in terms of size. I don't know the exact rule, but there are size restrictions. I don't think the head sizes will get much if any larger.

Whoever said something about Serena's racquet... who ever said she was changing racquets? What is she changing to, and is it indeed smaller than her current model? It's unlike a pro to change models so quickly.

LH2HBH
Oct 20th, 2006, 11:40 PM
I don't think so. Unlike Golf, when you choose a more powerful racquet you sacrifice a great deal of control and accuracy. So there is a tradeoff. There are very few players who choose the OS racquets (Williams, Agassi) and it's really up to them if they want to have that kind of game.

LH2HBH
Oct 20th, 2006, 11:41 PM
Yes, yes, and furthermore, yes. As we have clearly seen this year with the women, the oversized racquets have led to improper technique being the norm, which has led to all the injuries. If you can't play with a 95 square-inch frame, you don't belong at that level.


Aren't you a fan of Venus & Serena? :weirdo:

darrinbaker00
Oct 20th, 2006, 11:42 PM
Pros DO have restrictions in terms of size. I don't know the exact rule, but there are size restrictions. I don't think the head sizes will get much if any larger.

Whoever said something about Serena's racquet... who ever said she was changing racquets? What is she changing to, and is it indeed smaller than her current model? It's unlike a pro to change models so quickly.
According to the ITF:
http://www.itftennis.com/technical/rules/equipment/appendixii.asp

This was the new thing I learned today. Thank you, Paialii. ;)

darrinbaker00
Oct 20th, 2006, 11:43 PM
Aren't you a fan of Venus & Serena? :weirdo:
Yes, I am. Why do you ask?

Barrie_Dude
Oct 20th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Actually, there always have been restrictions of sorts about size, etc. And I think that it is a good thing.

Barrie_Dude
Oct 20th, 2006, 11:54 PM
I don't think so. Unlike Golf, when you choose a more powerful racquet you sacrifice a great deal of control and accuracy. So there is a tradeoff. There are very few players who choose the OS racquets (Williams, Agassi) and it's really up to them if they want to have that kind of game.Are you kidding me? Everyone on the tour uses what would have passed for an oversized raquet 20 years ago!

darrinbaker00
Oct 20th, 2006, 11:56 PM
Actually, there always have been restrictions of sorts about size, etc. And I think that it is a good thing.
After reading the ITF rule on racquets, it appears as if the only restrictions they don't have is on materials. That issue really needs to be addressed.

LH2HBH
Oct 21st, 2006, 12:09 AM
Are you kidding me? Everyone on the tour uses what would have passed for an oversized raquet 20 years ago!


Do you know what you are talking about? :p

What 'passes' for an oversized racquet has never changed.
Oversized = over 102 sq. inches.


Your very own Jennifer Capriati uses a classic players racquet with a very small head :rolleyes: 93 sq. in.


Here's the top 10 my friend!

Amelie Mauresmo
Dunlop M-Fil 300 98 sq.in
Justine Henin-Hardenne
Wilson nTour MP 95 sq. in.
Maria Sharapova
Prince 03 White Racquet 100 sq. in.
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Head Flexpoint Instinct 100sq. in.
Nadia Petrova
Babolat Pure Storm 103 sq. in.
Kim Clijsters
Babolat Pure Drive 100 Sq. in.
Elena Dementieva
Yonex RDX 98 sq. in.
Martina Hingis
Yonex RQS11 100 sq. in.
Dinara Safina
Babolat Pure Storm 103 sq. in.
Patty Schnyder
Head Flexpoint Instinct 100 sq. in.


Agassi's racquet is 107. sq. in.
Venus and Serena are both using racquets over 110sq. in. :eek:

LH2HBH
Oct 21st, 2006, 12:24 AM
And furthermore, it was 18 years ago that Pam Shriver showed up at the US Open final with a 110sq. in. Prince OS tennis racquet!

rockstar
Oct 21st, 2006, 02:15 AM
My racquet has holes at 9-o'clock and 3-o'clock. It allows for extra control, they say when you play a shot it keeps the ball on the strings for longer. Head Flexpoint Radical. Its actually the same model of racquet Agassi was using in his last match. :wavey:

you loser! my fren has the samr racket and they drilled in holes and charged an extra hundred bucks! :haha:

thomas.chung
Oct 21st, 2006, 08:02 AM
Well eventually, there is only so much your body can take physically without all the beat downs. Right now, a lot of the shoulder and wrist injuries I think are related to the game they play. And that point of beat down is a good signal to where racquet technology should stop in regards to power. Rather than regulation, let's use our body to do the judgement.