View Full Version : Is anyone else shocked by Serena?

Jun 11th, 2002, 01:58 AM
I've been a die-hard Serena fan since Indian Wells '99, and I kind of liked her before that even. As much as I love Serena, I never thought she'd capture the Coupe Suzanne Lenglen. That trophy was reserved for clay specialists and all-time greats (though the last few years, I wouldn't call Jen Cap or Mary either of those, neither are clay specialists or all-time greats, yet). I'm talking Arantxa, Seles, Majoli, and Steffi. I always knew Serena had the talent and ability to win there, but, to me, Serena can't win unless she's really "into it." I mean, the tournament. I view Venus, wrongly or aptly, as more of a machine, to me, Venus views tennis as a job, there are tournaments to be won for points and money. That's why I never (and still don't) doubt Venus' ability to win any tournament out there, including the French Open. But for Serena, I feel it's different, Serena needs to be "into it" mentally and really want it for personal reasons. It's not a job for her. That's why I never thought she'd capture this title, I never thought Serena really liked clay or would really be "into it" for this tournament, there were too many hard, indoor, and grass tournaments for her to capture. Even after the Italian Open, I thought, well, Serena's proved to herself and the world she can play on clay, the French Open won't be a big deal for her.

Boy, was I wrong! She won it, and she beat a ton of good players to prove it! A very well-earned win! She couldn't have done it in better fashion. I'm thrilled for her, but I have to say I'm a little surprised! In fact, I'm a lot surprised. Who would have thought that even a year ago, her name would appear on the Coupe Suzanne Lenglen. Well, it does now! Am I alone? I've been a fan of Serena for a long time, this is not a thread to trash her, but as a fan, I have to admit, I'm very surprised. Am I alone?

Jun 11th, 2002, 02:02 AM
Tremendously shocked, no. But a little. She had enough clay court experience before Berlin to be considered a major disappointment on the stuff. Then, in 5 weeks, she took over. I certainly don't think she owns the surface but suddenly she is the one to beat.

Jun 11th, 2002, 03:23 AM
Shocked? Well, once Justine lost, Serena actually had a very easy draw. Sure Jenn was in it, but Serena had won four in a row against Jenn going into RG.

As for Venus, Venus always plays defense vs Serena, and waits for Serena to implode. I'm not sure Venus CAN beat Serena if she has to match her attack for attack. Serena is just as fast, hits just as hard, and has a more reliable serve.

Williams Rulez
Jun 11th, 2002, 04:57 AM
Well I was a little surprised cause I expected Vay-nus to win it... )

But then, Serena did prove that she can play on clay at Rome and Berlin, so I wasn't that shocked, though I can't say I wasn't shocked at all.

Jun 11th, 2002, 05:45 AM
no I was not!
I was convinced that the only thing she needed was to stay fit through the clayseason and getting more confidence and some matches under her belt and when that happened I had no doubt she could win:)

Jun 11th, 2002, 06:00 AM
Serena is simply amazing!

Dawn Marie
Jun 11th, 2002, 06:08 AM
I was not surprised at all either, infact I picked her to win this whole thing since early in the season.

Personally I have been watching tennis for awhile now and Serena has the game to win on all surfaces including clay. All she needed was a bit more patience and I knew she would beat everyone who stood in her path. Serena took Jennifer last year to 3 sets ,and from that match I knew Serena was capable of winning RG on the red dirt. Also, I think Serena has the best serve on the tour, in fact the best serve I have seen on the WTA tour in a long time. Her serve is really outstanding and is a huge weapon. I think if Serena would of been healthy at the beginning of the season that she would be a holder the of all 4 slams this year. Personally, I think Serena is gonna stop alot of people from getting the #1 ranking in the next couple of years. It's a scary thought that she has no points at OZ next year to defend.

Also I think her injuries got her ticked off, and when she was healthy she took those days/months too play and win.

Jun 11th, 2002, 06:11 AM
either of the Williams are the ground breakers in tennis right now. they have broken many tennis stereotypes there are such as the most recent one: power players won't win Roland Gaross. but Serena proved that this is wrong. I am happy she ends HER drought of grand slams, I also wish her luck at Wimbledon and do what Steffi Graf did last in 1996 to win RG and Wimbeldon back to back.

This is no surprise, Serena has the dominator factor in her. and it is that she is stingy to let her opponents win points and she wants to win more and more.

It won't surpise me to see her holding that Rosewater Dish a month from now in London.

~ The Leopard ~
Jun 11th, 2002, 07:12 AM
No. I predicted Serena would win. I *wanted* Amelie to win, but as the tournament went on I became more and more confident that I was right: it would be Serena. Ho hum.

That's the trouble. I respect Serena, but women's tennis is too predictable.

Jun 11th, 2002, 07:48 AM
Only when she get to the semifinals that I believed she would win the RG Open.:bounce:

Jun 11th, 2002, 08:11 AM
No, I wasn't completely shocked. She has been playing so well this year. I wanted her to win and she did! hehe

Jun 11th, 2002, 09:08 AM
Nah not shocked at all. How well Serena did on clay was really all up to her.

The fact is Serena is on charge on court no matter what the surface is. To beat Serena you have to hope she hits 15 straight points out or into the net.

Perhaps Serena had an easier draw than most at Roland Garros, but she by far was the best on clay this year.

Jun 11th, 2002, 09:17 AM
didn't she beat the then number 1 and 2 in the world?(yeah now she is number 2 herself but not last week;))
sounds not so easy to me!
That she beat the then number 1 the last 5 times they played is hardly a case of an easy draw but simply a case of being the better player.:cool:
Go Serena:D :cool:

Jun 11th, 2002, 09:17 AM
I think you underestimate Mary and Jenny Celeste. But itīs your point of view anyway. I never thought that Serena would hold that trophy in her hand. I knew that Venus has the potential on clay, cause she won Rome, but after I saw Serena winning this year in the Italian capital there was no surprise for me anymore.
It will be interesting to see, if she will defend her title next year.

Jun 11th, 2002, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by irma
didn't she beat the then number 1 and 2 in the world?(yeah now she is number 2 herself but not last week;))
sounds not so easy to me!
That she beat the then number 1 the last 5 times they played is hardly a case of an easy draw but simply a case of being the better player.:cool:
Go Serena:D :cool:
:p you mean a more powerfull player....not a better :p

Jun 11th, 2002, 12:11 PM
I wasn't a believer until Serena did so well in Europe. Her many meltdowns of the last two years left scars so I was skeptical about Serena. But she has proven many us wrong by having a stellar season after starting off the year injured. Venus is still my fave (I love everything about her) but she's going to have her hands full with little sis.

Jun 11th, 2002, 03:27 PM
I saw it coming last year. Serena's results last year at the FO was a strong indicator of things to come and they held true. I knew that if Serena could make it to the QF of the FO and take the eventual champ to 3 sets without having played on the surface in two years, she could go all the way. If Serena and Venus can make it to the finals of the FO and clay being their worst surface watch out tour and watch out world, this is still just the beginning!!

Jun 11th, 2002, 03:29 PM
I always believed serena could win anything if she really wanted to. The thing that got her "into it" as you say, was the fact that so many people thought she couldnt win on clay and she wanted to prove them wrong.

Serena y Monica
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:35 PM
No Oizo, I'm quite sure Irma meant better!

5:0 against a player who is comparable to you and infact beat you 3x's last year...better works for me.

Jun 11th, 2002, 05:39 PM
of course I meant better in quality terms :p
Serena rules:D

Jun 11th, 2002, 05:47 PM
I was very surprised but not shocked. I think I was influenced by the people on this board, who proudly proclaimed, that Venus and Serena don't stand a chance at RG. All you have to do is pull up the "Who Won't Win RG' thread and you'll see what I mean. I think RG this year was so exciting because 2 players that never got passed the quarters made the finals.

Jun 11th, 2002, 06:02 PM
I wasn't shocked at all, not even suprised. I was definitely expecting a Williams to win. But i favored Venus more. I believed it's only Serena who could beat Venus. The most crucial difference between them now is Serena's Serve. I believe it's the BEST EVER in the women's game.

Jun 11th, 2002, 06:09 PM
No not at all. In fact, earlier in the year and even late last year, many Williams' supporters predicted that one of the Sisters would win Roland Garros. In fact I was one! :angel: :angel:

Jun 11th, 2002, 06:38 PM
I was not shocked. I really think that Serena would have won the AO if she were not injured. Serena just seems to be "there" now.

Jun 11th, 2002, 06:48 PM
.... the people on this board, who proudly proclaimed, that Venus and Serena don't stand a chance at RG. All you have to do is pull up the "Who Won't Win RG' thread and you'll see what I mean.


Jun 11th, 2002, 06:58 PM
Alright now!