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venusfan
Jun 10th, 2002, 11:00 PM
"She was going to lose anyway, so she should have just come and watched so she could have figured out how to play Venus and Serena instead of looking at the computer game."

Berlin_Calling
Jun 10th, 2002, 11:05 PM
What did Jenn say and what computer game?? Im getting confused !:confused: :o :p

Meesh
Jun 10th, 2002, 11:16 PM
According to John Wertheim or as some of you like to call him John Werthless in his article today.

[Asked about Capriati's assertion, Oracene Williams shook her head. "Wishful thinking," she called it. As usual, she was dead on.]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/jon_wertheim/news/2002/06/10/mailbag/

FP
Jun 11th, 2002, 11:41 AM
I'm just wonderring why this man cannot keep his mouth shut, not making a full of himself??? Doesn't he understand that he embarres his daughters making his useless comments about girls of his daughters age?
My God, old man with such a big mouth!!!

FP
Jun 11th, 2002, 11:42 AM
I have a great respect to the sisters' mother who manage somehow to bear this poor mentally handycapped man...

Beige
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:20 PM
Link: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/stories/2002-06-10-williams.htm

Williams: Daughters' success 'American dream'

By Andrea Leand, special to USA TODAY

Richard Williams' prediction that his daughters, Venus and Serena, would one day dominate tennis came to fruition last week at the French Open. The sisters' surge to the Grand Slam final guaranteed Venus and Serena the respective No. 1 and 2 rankings, not to mention a combined sixth Grand Slam singles title.

There were no post-match victory dances or dramatics from the proud father at this Grand Slam. Williams skipped the trip to Paris to pursue his latest venture in the USA. News of Serena's French Open triumph came via a cell phone as he drove down a Florida highway after promoting his new sports drink, Smash.

The historic moment, marking the first time two siblings have reached the French Open final and held the top two spots, left him satisfied if not surprised and distressed by remarks from Jennifer Capriati.

"They (Venus and Serena) finally caught up with my prediction," Williams said moments after Serena edged Venus 7-5, 6-3 for her second Grand Slam title.

"This is the American dream come true. This is a dream that started in 1978. It's the most satisfying day of my life. This shows that it doesn't matter where you start, you can achieve anything."

In becoming students of the game, both sisters made significant changes in their tournament scheduling and training regimen in the last year. Newly hired trainer Kerri Brooks enforced more structured fitness and diet programs. Curbing extracurricular activities, including schooling at the Fashion Institute in Fort Lauderdale, allowed them to gain more match play, court sense and confidence.

"Venus and Serena didn't just get here. They had to work extremely hard," Williams said. "They were willing to listen, listen to me very well. It wasn't fair to compare them years ago when (Martina) Hingis had 54 matches and they only had 19."

Capriati, who dropped from No. 1 to No. 3, suggested that the Williams' recent rise resulted from the absences of injured stars Lindsay Davenport and Hingis. Capriati also asserted that the Williams' relatively separate tournament schedules — preventing them from facing each other too often — helped them climb the rankings.

"There's a lot of things that have happened that kind of made them in this position," Capriati said after losing to Serena in the French Open semifinal. "You know, they were pretty good with planning things. One plays; one doesn't. But mostly it's just because not everyone is in the game. I mean, it would be nice to see people coming back and really see what happens then."

Venus and Serena refused to respond, pointing to their winning records against Davenport, Hingis and Capriati in the last two years. Capriati's assertion also overlooked the fact that her jump to No. 1 occurred during Venus' injury layoff last fall and Davenport's surgery at this year's onset.

"Jennifer is always making excuses," Richard Williams said. "Venus and Serena have beaten all of them, Jennifer, Lindsay and Martina. But Jennifer gets angry when she's losing and says these bad things.

"(Capriati) should have come to the French Open as a spectator this year. She was going to lose anyway, so she should have just come and watched, so she could have figured out how to play Venus and Serena instead of looking at the computer game. No one has to destroy Jennifer because she is destroying herself. Until she takes responsibility for herself, she is always going to have problems."

The sparring for No. 1 should intensify at Wimbledon, where Davenport will return from her injury layoff. Venus will face the pressure to defend her title as Capriati did at the French Open. Williams does not believe the heightened expectations and competition will faze his daughters.

"There is no one who is going to catch up to Venus and Serena right now," Williams said. "No one has both the mental and physical games to do it. Lindsay has the power but does not have the speed. Hingis does not have the strength and power. And Jennifer is a fierce competitor but gets nervous when it comes to playing the Williams girls. She can't stay out there with them.

"The only ones going to beat Venus and Serena are the next two I coach. I'm looking for them now. The WTA (Tour) probably won't even let them onto the tour."

Volcana
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:28 PM
FP - HE looks like a genius right now. The players HE coached and trained against all tennis convention are#1 and #2. YOUR comments read like those of a 'poor mentally handycapped ... fool'.

You're looking at the best job of coaching, developing and training players in the history of the sport. From someone who learned how from reading book!

You may not like him, but your inability to acknowledge his accomplishments leaves you with no credibility at all.

If this guy is 'mentally handicapped', Mike Sell is too stupid to breathe, and Melanie Molitor has the IQ of a lichen.

Get a grip.

HAIL-VENUS
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:48 PM
Hehe, I love the way that the article pointed out that Capriati failed to mention that two top players were also injured when she became numero uno. One of which she's never defeated. BTW, I'm glad that there's a RICHARD in their family. He's not afraid to call it like he sees it. I haven't always agreed with Richard, but on this matter, I'm backing him 110%.

servenrichie
Jun 11th, 2002, 01:06 PM
Richard is not embarrassing his daughters. Sometimes, somebody has to tell tell it as it is. I am yet to read articles from the same writers that would have crucified V & S, had they said such a thing criticising Capriati. Richard is still that voice that says things the tennis establishment would like to sweep under the rug.
We could debate, if it is better to take the high road or to take the confrontational way he usually takes. But as i say, that is debatable.
The one thing that is clear is this:'mentally handicapped' he is NOT! He is a genius and that is what pisses people off the most about him.

anton
Jun 11th, 2002, 01:48 PM
I like Brandi's comment. She has a beautiful attitude even applauding Seles after Venus lost to her and she always has a smile on her face.

M2k
Jun 11th, 2002, 02:23 PM
The man is obviously very smart...but he's attitude has been of an arrogant man many times.

FP
Jun 11th, 2002, 02:29 PM
Don't u think Volcana that the girls' mother deserves far more credit for rising and coaching these girls than him and yet still she manage to be classy somehow and not to be involved in arguments of children...
HE IS MENTALLY HANDYCAPPED NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT!!!

Grice
Jun 11th, 2002, 02:46 PM
I dun know if Richard Williams really said all that esp. the part abt "There is no one who is going to catch up to Venus and Serena right now,"...
It reminds me of how Hingis' mother Melanie once said no one can match Hingis' game except Lindsay... and look what happened to Hingis now... so many players are beating her consistently...

Pride does come before a fall... ... ...

chings
Jun 11th, 2002, 03:08 PM
Grice,
You are wrong. Don't compare Richard's comments with Melanie's.
They are totally different. When Melanie made that statement,
Martina herself was giving her mother the courage to say that.
When she said, she doesn't see a williams becoming a world
number one until she retires, then what you expect of a proud
mother like melanie to say. In this case Venus and Serena didn't
say anything at all. And if fact it is Capriati who provoked these
harsh words from Mr. Richard Williams.
What the hell she cited Martina and Davenport not on the tour.....
they are good at planning their 1 and 2 ranking thing whereas
she could have prevented that had she beaten Serena in the
semi.
I don't how many times you people will discuss this topic. We
discussed this the whole of yesterday. Here again someone
extracted few lines from the whole thing and make a new topic.
I think you all the anti-williams want to drag this thing on while
Capriati herself doesn't have time to even read a bit of what
Richard has or might have said.

selesrules
Jun 11th, 2002, 03:21 PM
Why can't all the players be class acts like Monica? With everything she's been through, Monica has the right to complain more then all players combined about the "unfair" things. But yet she always gives credits to her opponents and has nice things to say to everybody else no matter what the circumstances are. Heck even if she's injured or is making a comeback or is losing her father to cancer or whatever, she still gives credit to her opponents.

CanIGetAWhat
Jun 11th, 2002, 03:35 PM
it's jennifer's own fault for "speaking her mind" or taking the reporters' baits. i never really liked richard, but he does have a right to defend his daughters, like any parent, when they're being attacked.

magassi
Jun 11th, 2002, 03:36 PM
"Jennifer is always making excuses," Richard Williams said. "Venus and Serena have beaten all of them, Jennifer, Lindsay and Martina. But Jennifer gets angry when she's losing and says these bad things.

"(Capriati) should have come to the French Open as a spectator this year. She was going to lose anyway, so she should have just come and watched, so she could have figured out how to play Venus and Serena instead of looking at the computer game. No one has to destroy Jennifer because she is destroying herself. Until she takes responsibility for herself, she is always going to have problems."

This is somewhat shocking coming from a man who is probably the age of Jennifer's father (and Jennifer is really not that much older than his daughters). How would he feel if someone spoke disparagingly about his daughters (let's say Stefano or Melanie Molitor)? And when did Jennifer make excuses for her loses? Did she ever say she had an upset stomach or was an "imposter"?

And how was Jennifer "attacking" his daughter to warrant her (the only one challenging the Williams' Sisters at the moment) to be a "spectator" and an inevitable loser coming into the French? The way I read Jennifer said that Venus and Serena do not "play" the same tournament and that is a good "plan" if you want your daughters to acsend to the top of the tennis world. Is that what they were doing any way? Avoiding each other in small tourneys? Jennifer never said that they "fix" matches. The press said that. "One plays the other doesn't" is referring to how they don't play the same tourneys often.

Amanda
Jun 11th, 2002, 04:08 PM
jennifer started this crap, and she is now paying the price...Commentators were even making fun of her "sour grapes" comments and proving her comments WRONG! Venus and Serena have the best record and game in women's tennis. I love it..."wishful thinking" on her part! LOL!!!!!!

FP
Jun 11th, 2002, 04:14 PM
"This is somewhat shocking coming from a man who is probably the age of Jennifer's father (and Jennifer is really not that much older than his daughters). How would he feel if someone spoke disparagingly about his daughters (let's say Stefano or Melanie Molitor)? "
Bravo magassi I couldn't say better indeed ;)

With all respect where did u get this statement from Molitor, Grice ? I should say from which year it comes from? I can bet that it was about 1997-98-99? isn't it ? so at that time it was exactly truth no more no less. Molitor usually doesn't open her mouth before she is sure that she is right, and it;s very rare occasions when she makes comments about other players, almost never. Martina could proud of her mother unlike the sisters unluckily having the father like Richard :(

TeeRexx
Jun 11th, 2002, 04:21 PM
Ever think that Ms. Manners, in her displayed lack of self control issued out her barrage of utterly stupid statements because she lost a match?

Richard was right. Manners did lose, she should have studied SERENA'S game better and she playes way too many computer games while gobbling down pizza instead of working out.

I guess Manners will really go berserk when she gets waxed in London.

CC
Jun 11th, 2002, 04:27 PM
Here's a little something for your perusal. Have fun.

http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26592

harloo
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:17 PM
Jennifer simply attacked Venus and Serena saying that they wouldn't be ranked no.1 and no.2 at all if Lindsay and Martina were in the game. She took shots at them for no reason at all, and I don't understand why some of you would think Richard wouldn't say anything about it.

I knew once her disrespectful comments came into existence Richard would come out of the woodworks. I don't understand also how some of you would act as if you are so suprised Richard would say this stuff about Jen. Richard is just like that, and his comments in the past have indicated such.

Futhermore, I think he wasn't right to say Jen is a spectator but I agree with him on alot of points. He is no fan of mine, but if his daughers are being attacked then what father wouldn't say anything? I know I wouldn't let that stand.

Dawn Marie
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:59 PM
Richard at times gets on my nerves, but you know, this article is really not far from the truth. Bottom Line: Everthing he mentioned about Jennifer I felt was dead on, ecept about her being the spectator instead of defending. But Richard was being facitious, realizing Jennifer can't hang with Serena or Venus on a regualr basis anymore.

Nothing wrong with Richard defending his daughters, also I am glad he brought up the point about how Jennifer got her #1 ranking. What I find baffling is people jump Richard but refuse to hear and ignore Jennifer's attitiude this whole year and half. Jennifer had no reason to say what she did in her last interview, only trying to tear a sister down in my opinion. In their moment of glory. Jennifer needs to keep her mouth closed and get some maturity, Richard needs to take the highroad. But in all honesty I am glad he told it like it is, regarding what Jennifer said so blatantly to the media.

TeeRexx
Jun 11th, 2002, 06:01 PM
Harloo, I concur with you completely.
As some say, "Don't start no shit, don't get no shit".

vw43
Jun 11th, 2002, 06:22 PM
...."she playes way too many computer games while gobbling down pizza instead of working out."

How does this statement contribute to the topic at hand? Is this a contribution or just an excuse to personally attack a player you claim to dislike but seem obsessed with.

You know, I am glad that Richard made these statements as well. It just shows how easily HE is baited by the media.

:angel: :wavey: :kiss:

Iconoclast
Jun 11th, 2002, 06:30 PM
Actually, they were both baited.

Jen at the press conference. Probably unknowingly. If you read the transcript, the word that ticked her off was "inevitable". Her objections to that word were actually valid, but when she started bringing Lindsay and Martina into the equation and talking about players benefitting from injuries - she went a little too far.

And Richard, well, technically, he was probably not baited. Just interviewed. But the result is the same.

vw43
Jun 11th, 2002, 06:34 PM
"Actually, they were both baited."

That was my point Iconoclast ;) There were several people putting Jennifer down for allowing herself to be baited and I was pointing out that the same could be said for Richard. And Richard didn't need much baiting but he took it hook, line and sinker. :)

Amanda
Jun 11th, 2002, 07:20 PM
Jennifer puts herself down....no self restraint. She still throws tantrums when she does not get her way( 2001 US Open loss to Venus "Get me outta' here...mommy"), making stupid comments after she is defeated and drops in ranking to her chief rivals.....she really needs to ZIP it!

Bella
Jun 11th, 2002, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by chings
When Melanie made that statement, Martina herself was giving her mother the courage to say that. When she said, she doesn't see a williams becoming a world number one until she retires...............

Prove this. Just because assholes say this over and over doesn't make it true. Just one of you prove something instead of just quoting each other.

Lolita
Jun 11th, 2002, 07:41 PM
How can you even blame richard?
Jenpot always insults players she loses to
She insulted Seles
now she's insulting Serena
Jenpot should be fined by the WTA
she's such a sore loser and bad exemple in the game
I bet she's still smoking
and i don't mean cigarettes...

ys
Jun 11th, 2002, 07:52 PM
Still I am sure he is a kinder person than he tries to seem.

BigTennisFan
Jun 11th, 2002, 07:58 PM
As was pointed out in Wertheim's mailbag, there is absolutely no credibility at all to the idea that if Venus and Serena played the same tournaments that they would not be 1 and 2. Serena has 12 tournaments and Venus has 14. If they both went out in the first round of a couple of more tourneys, they would STILL have more points than anyone else.:D

Also this silliness about Lindsay and Martina being off the tour was a help is transparent. Venus and Serena are 10-0 against Lindsay and Martina in their last ten meetings and 9-1 against Jenn in their last ten. I'm sure that V&S wish they were back so that they could feast on those quality points.:p

But with all of that said, it might just be possible that Jenn and the other carpers will get their wish. Since Venus and Serena are now ranked 1 and 2, they are guaranteed to be on opposite sides of the draw in tournaments. :bounce:

Now really. do you think that the complainers REALLY want Venus and Serena to enter a whole bunch of tournaments together?

I don't THINK so.:D

As for Richard, all he has to say to the doubters and detractors who mean mouthed him and called him everything but a child of God is: How you like me NOW!:angel:

victory1
Jun 11th, 2002, 08:19 PM
I bet you the reporters’ probably paraphrased Jennifer's comments to Richard, and that's why Richard came down so hard on her. They probably said something like this, "Jennifer said that Venus and Serena could have never attain the #1 and 2 spot in the rankings if Hingis and Davenport was not hurt." After all the sacrifice and hard work that his children put in to attain this ultimate goal, of being 2 of the best players in the WTA, this must have seemed like a low blow to Richard.

roots
Jun 11th, 2002, 08:29 PM
Before I get my head bitten off, let me start by saying that having Venus and Serena ranked 1 and 2 in the world is an amazing accomplishment for both players. Who wouldn't want the 2 best players playing the game right now ranked at the top of the rankings.

That being said, I do expect some movement in the rankings by the end f the year. As many pointed out, Venus has loads of points to defend this summer, as for Serena, she has a bit less, and the others (Jennifer, Monica, Kim, Justine) fewer points to defend. It's quite conceiveble that Serena ends the year on top, but the same can be said for Jennifer and Venus (I don't really see another player).

I have a problem with Richard stating that Jennifer "should have come to the French Open as a spectator this year. She was going to lose anyway, so she should have just come and watched, so she could have figured out how to play Venus and Serena". No one in their right mind can beleive that Jennifer doens't know how to play against Venus and Serena. The Williams matches against Jennifer are never easy (except US Open SF 2001) and quite competitive. Jennifer is by far their biggest threat.

I can't defend Jennifer's comments, because she wasn't right, but I can say that we all say things without thinking sometimes. Unfortunately Jennifer is in the public eye and what she says and does will appear in print and will be debated. What she should learn though is not to put herself in these situations, but I'm sure it's hard for someone as emotional as she is to keep her mouth shut. I'm guilty of that and I'm sure a lot of us are, but we have the luxary of not having to read about it for weeks to come and be reminded of our stupid comment. But, people seem to not be able to cut Jennifer any slack. I say move on already. Is what she said that harmful, were her comments ment as a personal attack? I don't think so. The interview itself had parts were Jennifer praised the Williams' play and accomplishments. It's not like she sat her ass down and started to bad mouth Venus and Serena. I know Jennifer is not that liked on here, but it's by far time to get over it.

We have Wimbledon to look forward to, which shoud make for some great stories. And after that, it's hard court tennis in North America leading up to the US Open. We're all tennis fans here, Jennifer earns a living as a tennis player, not as a public speaker. I appreciate what she does on court (don't even go there with the cursing at the OZ Open) and maybe some of you should look at that more. Ok, maybe being scrutinized by what you say comes with being a tennis player, but in all fairness what Jennifer has said isn't something that should be held against her.

Callie19
Jun 11th, 2002, 08:41 PM
I'm sorry to break it to some people on this board, but Richard Williams just speaks the truth. Richard Williams is anything but handicapped. Believe it or not, but he is quite intelligent. Even before Venus and Serena were born, he had a plan. That plan was to produce great tennis players, and guess what, that plan has come true. Now tell me, would that type of great idea come from a mentally handicapped man?

Also, Richard had every right to attack Jennifer Capriati's comments. She attacked his daughter's names, and that isn't acceptable. She just needs to stop holding other people accountable for her losses, and just live with it.

vw43
Jun 11th, 2002, 09:26 PM
nice post, roots :)

daustin
Jun 11th, 2002, 09:53 PM
I will get attacked for this comment, but of all these posts, roots was the wisest.:angel:

Althea
Jun 11th, 2002, 09:58 PM
I asked the question in another thread re
a few posters responding that Jennifers comments were just Jenn being Jenn:angel: , and what do you expect her to say after losing such a tough match, sing Serena's praises...:confused: , and surely the Williams Fans should understand...
soooooooooooooooooo

Surely you same posters feel the same about Richard, come on now..

This just Richard being Richard:angel:, what did you expect him to say re Jenn comments..:confused: . after the years of hard work that Venus And Serena put in AND Richard Yes Richard and Miss Oracene put into "helping" their daughters become the great tennis players they are today. Surely The Other Fans should be able to understand...

Outspoken yes.... and attimes it's a very good thing...
Mentally handicapped... No Way!!!

neorules
Jun 11th, 2002, 10:23 PM
What I don't understand is why did Richards Williams need to take his daughters to Rick Macci for 2-3 years to make them world class if he had all the answers?

Jovon
Jun 11th, 2002, 11:24 PM
This is somewhat shocking coming from a man who is probably the age of Jennifer's father (and Jennifer is really not that much older than his daughters).


Jen not only tried to discredit Venus and Serena but also Richard, and that is why Richard had a right to take a potshot back at her.

Q. You mean things like Lindsay being injured or Martina being injured or things like that?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: Right, right. I mean, I don't know, it's just kind of funny the way it's worked out sometimes. You know, one plays, one doesn't. I don't know. You would think maybe it was just a little more planning behind that. But, I mean, if you really want your daughters to be 1 and 2, I mean, I guess everyone would kind of do that. But mostly it's just because not everyone is in the game, I think.



Point is, Jen brought Richard into this.

harloo
Jun 12th, 2002, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Althea
I asked the question in another thread re
a few posters responding that Jennifers comments were just Jenn being Jenn:angel: , and what do you expect her to say after losing such a tough match, sing Serena's praises...:confused: , and surely the Williams Fans should understand...
soooooooooooooooooo

Surely you same posters feel the same about Richard, come on now..

This just Richard being Richard:angel:, what did you expect him to say re Jenn comments..:confused: . after the years of hard work that Venus And Serena put in AND Richard Yes Richard and Miss Oracene put into "helping" their daughters become the great tennis players they are today. Surely The Other Fans should be able to understand...

Outspoken yes.... and attimes it's a very good thing...
Mentally handicapped... No Way!!!

Exactly. Like I said before I'm no fan of Richard, but the hypocrisy is so evident among some posters it's shameful.

R. DIS
Jun 12th, 2002, 01:16 AM
Richard needs to stay out of it and let his daughters handle their own problems for once. I don't see stefano stepping in and saying rude comments about venus and serena.

tennischick
Jun 12th, 2002, 01:37 AM
no Stefano just glares at them with venom when they beat his daughter. if looks could kill....

M2k
Jun 12th, 2002, 02:07 AM
Very well said Roots :D I wish everyone would be as partial as you're. Some posters here are just here to spew their venom because they like to hate, and others are just hurt because of what Jennifer said, that I do understand*

...not long ago Jennifer was beating Serena on a regular basis, and I remember Serena not being all sweetness and gracious towards Jennifer. What I see is that we have to two people that are very passionate about what they do, and let's face it, we are all guilty of saying things we may regret later.


As for Richard, well he's guilty of what Jennifer is being accused and some more :o lol but it's ok I guess. It just adds to the drama:drool: though I would be lying if I said I like him , I always felt he never gave Lindsay the credit she deserved.

servenrichie
Jun 12th, 2002, 07:06 AM
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originally posted by FP:

With all respect where did u get this statement from Molitor, Grice ? I should say from which year it comes from? I can bet that it was about 1997-98-99? isn't it ? so at that time it was exactly truth no more no less. Molitor usually doesn't open her mouth before she is sure that she is right, and it;s very rare occasions when she makes comments about other players, almost never. Martina could proud of her mother unlike the sisters unluckily having the father like Richard
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Going by your arguments FP, then you neednt crucify Richard at all, everything he said has come to pass. 'Molitor usually doesn't open her mouth before she is sure that she is right' Now substitute Melanie with Richard and we are talking. The exception is Melanie never had to defend herself against anybody, wheras Richard Williams has had to do that all his life. Melanie concieved and gave birth to Martina with tennis in mind, likewise everything she did all through her life, but it was okay, it was normal, it was acceptable, but Richard is being made fun of for the same thing even now. Even as it became apparent that he knew what he was doing, did he get the respect? no.

By the way, have you ever listened to commentaries when V & S are playing, especially in the earlier days? Ever listen to Carrilo, Evert, Wade, Macenroe etc?

I tell you, it is only when one is not being subjected to these things on daily basis, that one can afford to preach about taking the high road.

Talk about Stefano, did you listen to his comments after Jennifer beat Serena last year in Wimbledon?

At the moment Richard seems to be the only legimate opening to attack the Williamses because V & S have always taken the high road, but damn it, somebody has to say it as it is sometimes.

V & S get so cristicised, even as they have always taken the high road, now think of what would have happen, had they replied to some of the things dished out to them.

Yes Capriati had a bitter loss, which is not any reason to pour sour milk, you win some and you loose some. Somebody here, even said that last year when Serena was loosing, that she pouring sour milk, please give me a quote, even hearsay, as i remember it was Capriati, who was less gracious even in her wins

As they say, dont throw stones while sitting in a glass house. Dont start shit, when you cannot take shit. Maybe it is time for her to grow up.

HAIL-VENUS
Jun 12th, 2002, 07:24 AM
I find it absolutely absurd that some people are upset with Richard's comments while JenCap was the one who went on attack first. I'm almost certain that Richard would never have metioned Jen had she not gone on a mini-rampage against Venus and Serena's success. I don't blame Richard in the least. Jen should learn how to lose graciously, or she and her fans should expect for her to be retaliated against.

Bright Red
Jun 12th, 2002, 12:41 PM
The worst part of it all is that the whole thing was avoidable. It was all up to Jennifer.

Unfortunately, now Jennifer's loss in Paris is worse than it had to be. She looked like a total sore loser holding bunches of sour grapes in each hand.

But fortunately, it makes the Williams' victories better--and with Wimbledon around the corner, perhaps this whole thing will be forgotten.

roots
Jun 12th, 2002, 01:27 PM
:wavey: vw43, daustin, M2k

I hope you're right Bright Red. I too wish this whole thing goes away fast, but I just hope that the Capriati camp don't add something else to this. I just hope they leave it alone and move on, answering Richard's comments will do nothing. I say that both dads should take a back seat and let their daughters play and do the talking (except for Jennifer:) ) Still, you got to love Jenn! She's so genuine, I mean what you see is what you get, no holding back.

Fuji
Jun 12th, 2002, 07:53 PM
I suggest people go back to read Jennifer's post-match interview. She did give credit to Venus and Serena for achieving no1 and 2.

We often blame journalists for taking words out of context. Now some of posters should blame their stupidity for falling into the trap.

Althea
Jun 12th, 2002, 08:32 PM
http://www.frenchopen.org/en/news/interviews/20020606133853c7f1b9916ef3985e80256bd0005fac6e.htm l

Q. The Williams family have been saying for like years it was inevitable that the girls would go to 1 and 2. They finally have. Has there been sort of a feeling around the tour that maybe this year it's going to happen; it was just a matter of time?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: No, not really. I mean, yeah, you've got to give them credit. You know, "inevitable"? There's a lot of things that have happened that kind of made them in this position, 1 and 2. You know, they were pretty good with planning things. I don't know if it was like that. But, I mean, they're just having a good year this year, and we'll see if they stay on top.

Q. You mean things like Lindsay being injured or Martina being injured or things like that?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: Right, right. I mean, I don't know, it's just kind of funny the way it's worked out sometimes. You know, one plays, one doesn't. I don't know. You would think maybe it was just a little more planning behind that. But, I mean, if you really want your daughters to be 1 and 2, I mean, I guess everyone would kind of do that. But mostly it's just because not everyone is in the game, I think.

Q. So you think if all the elite players were in full health this year, it probably would have taken longer?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: Taken longer? I don't know if it would ever happen at all. I mean, you know, it's definitely gone in their favor in that regard. So, I mean, I don't know. I mean, who knows. Maybe they would have still been 1 and 2, even if everyone's playing. I mean, it would be nice to see people coming back and really see what happens then.

Q. Do you feel that they planned not to play each other a number of times? Do you think that was part of their thinking?

JENNIFER CAPRIATI: I mean, I don't know. I really shouldn't comment more about that. It just kind of seems like that. You know, I guess they can't really plan it because the way the draw comes out, I mean, they're on opposite sides. What if they were on the same side? Can't really plan those things.

Callie19
Jun 12th, 2002, 08:45 PM
Still, you got to love Jenn! She's so genuine, I mean what you see is what you get, no holding back.

It isn't very pretty is it?