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Sofiane
Jun 10th, 2002, 02:43 PM
how do you react?
It's a new situation for me, I am improving my tennis from year to year, I began playing less than three years ago, so now I am getting to play players that I am realy better than they are, but .... when I see that I should win 6-0 6-0, I tend to get really tense and make some HUGE inforced errors, yesterday was an exemple, I played aguy who was supposed to be 3.5, we began the match and I had very quickly a 4-0 lead, his mouvement was bad, his serve just ok, his second serve sucks, and he just slices almost everything. I was certain I should win easy, but then began my unforced erros festival, I ended up wining 6-4 6-4, but it was very difficult, I made the life mesirable for myself :(.
So for those who play from a long time, any advice? Is my reaction normal, or ... am I a shocker?

Sofiane
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:24 PM
:( I thought it was an interesting topic :(

Giuliano
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:28 PM
I'm a bit lazy tired to answer in english. Should I do it in french? ;)

Sofiane
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:46 PM
ben vas-y Julien, je suis de montreal donc je parle français :)

Gandalf
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:49 PM
Sofiane,

Your reaction is normal. When I see I'm winning too easy (as it was your case) I start trying not to play too good (in a way, not to 'humiliate' anyone), and then when I start making errors I can't go back to my usual level, so the match turns to be very ugly.

Interesting topic, by the way.

Giuliano
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:57 PM
C'est pour ça que je voulais répondre en français. ;)

Ben je crois que c'est normal, ça arrive souvent surtout jusqu'à un certain niveau (je ne connais pas le système de classement canadien). On a tout de suite le reflèxe de vouloir accélérer et gagner les points plus facilement puisque les balles de l'adversaire sont molles et c'est là qu'on fait les fautes tant qu'on a pas plusieurs années d'expérience. J'en ai cassé des raquettes comme ça contre ces crocos :mad: ;). Pour jouer ces balles là, il ne faut surtout pas s'emballer (enfin c'est ce que je crois). Prends ton temps pour te placer et pas la peine de frapper comme un sourd contre un joueur comme ça hehe. Je suis presque sur que c'est parce que tu te précipites trop que tu commences à bacher ;).
Mais c'est normal, tous ceux qui veulent jouer sérieusement connaissent ce genre de mésaventure au début.
Tu remarqueras d'ailleurs qu'on a tendance à mieux jouer quand on a des balles impeccables en face.

Rollo
Jun 10th, 2002, 04:06 PM
I've found one way to keep sharp and not embarass your oppenent is to try to work on your weaknesses. Can't serve and volley well? This is a good time to try it. This way you've evened up the contest but are still working on your game in a positive manner.

Williams Rulez
Jun 10th, 2002, 04:07 PM
My french has degraded horribly... :sad:

I'm having problems understanding what you said Julien... :(

Giuliano
Jun 10th, 2002, 04:12 PM
Mainly I said that it was quite normal until you can play at a certain level cause that kind of sliced balls are not that easy to play. I also said that I was almost sure Sofiane has a tendancy to rush cause slow balls seem easy to play, hence the unforced errors. So I said he should take his time and not try to overpower his opponent.

turt
Jun 10th, 2002, 04:24 PM
Julien, you should be a tennis teacher ;)

Sofiane
Jun 10th, 2002, 04:26 PM
Julien you are so true about the overpowring issue, that's the problem, even if I am quite small 5'7 for 150pounds (1m70 69KG) I can hit the ball quite hard especially from my forhand, and that is what I was trying to do overpowring him. I should have tried to make some drop shots of his serve to make him run, cause he really was out of shape (I am in great shape myself :o).

Giuliano
Jun 10th, 2002, 04:28 PM
Na@turt. See? I know my subject sometimes :p.

Just relax and play your game and pay attention to your footwork. If you're potientally better than your opponent, you'll end up winning (if the gap between you and him is that huge :)).

Jem
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:23 PM
I think Rollo has some excellent advice. When you're playing someone not as good as you, use it as an opportunity to work on those parts of your game that are subpar. For example, I'm a baseliner by nature. When I'm playing someone I should beat without too many problems (not too often these days because I'm in an excellent league!), I do thinks I would not normally do. I'll serve and volley on several points and look for any opportunity to get to the net if I have a short ball. When I'm not as certain of the situation, I tend to retreat to the baseline after retrieving a midcourt shot. Also, look at it as an opportunity to work on the mental side of your game (most important!). The key is to relax and not worry too much about it, and not to think that you're better than you are. Unless you're overwhelmingly better than your opponent, it's not unexpected to have a reasonably close 6-4, 6-4 match. The difference is usually how you play the big points. Good luck and have fun!

Scotso
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:26 PM
I tend to beat the better players and lose to the less talented ones. I get really nervous when I know I should win easily. Though lately I've changed from a baseline to a serve/volley style and I'm getting a bit better about it.

Sofiane
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:30 PM
I assure you than in all aspects I was better, even if my volleys sucks big time, his volleys are worse, all the points he won, were doubles faults huge inforced erros from me (somtimes he was able to serve well).
I got nervous and i felt it, the first thing that goes away when I get nervous is my FOOTWORK, I get my legs going I feel like sticked to the ground :(

Giuliano
Jun 11th, 2002, 09:01 AM
Deux trucs tout cons qu'on apprend à l'école de tennis contre la nervosité: Respire et si tes jambes sont collées au sol, sautille (comme les pros peut ètre mais ça marche et apparament des "chercheurs" ont trouvé que plus on sautillait, plus on était concentré).
Ca me fait penser à un truc que j'ai lu dans un excellent bouquin ("La préparation mentale au tennis") à propos des doubles fautes. L'auteur disait à raison que quand on doit servir une deuxième, on pense toujours "Je dois éviter de la mettre dehors" et il conseillait à la place de penser "Je vais la mettre dedans". Ca pet paraitre bébète mais tu verrais les résultats que ça donne. (le fameux "Think positive").
Sinon pour la concentration tu peux essayer de suivre les coutures de la balle des yeux. Si tu te concentres dessus, tu vas rentrer dans une bulle.
Enfin tout ça c'est que j'ai pu apprendre ;)

Nimi
Jun 11th, 2002, 11:42 AM
nope, i know what its like, i ended up winning 7-6 (7-4) against a dude who was abviously below my level.... check this, when it works, my serve flys at 60-80 MPH, huge i think for a 13 years old amature, my forehand is big, but too many errors, my backhand is almost error-less but weak, my volleys arent the best but i love serve & volleying, & im really fast, but i tend to get 30+ UE's every match... i suck..

V.Melb
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:27 PM
HA! this is a daily occurance for me!
I beat people above my level - then lose to horrible players! - what is wrong with me?!

arn
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:59 PM
I have the same problem!!

When somebody is playing badly I start to play the same way :( But I'm startting to learn :) Instead of completely losing, I start winning by 6-4 6-4.

I once had a guy who could not even play a normal serve. And everytime I wanted to make the winner on the return (which failed 3/4 :( )

Now I'm more patient. Maybe even too patient because instead of playing my normal game I start to wait untill he make sthe error (also not a good idea :( )

V.Melb
Jun 11th, 2002, 01:00 PM
Yes, its hard to find the balance!
Thats the only reason why i'm not pro ;)
I lift my game against better opponents and drop it against worse players!

matthewhaufle
Jun 11th, 2002, 01:07 PM
I wish I knew what it was like to be a lot better than someone else! ;)

I only started playing tennis a year ago (I'm 25 now) and I'm improving a lot. Whenever I take a beginner to play with me (the only people I can beat :)), I find my level always lowers so it will be competitive. I think it is a natural human thing to do unless you have that "killer instinct," which I certainly do not have but the pros are required to have.

Matt