I remember how she won 99 FO and Beat Venus to reach Wimbledon 99 finals.
That was a great match between her and Venus and she won 7-5 in the third. Only Steffi can conquer the sisters.
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:10 AM
Yeah... Steffi at her prime against Venus or Serena at their primes would be a great match to watch... :D
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:12 AM
do you know what's Steffi's head to head against the sisters?
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:13 AM
I wonder what Steffi could do now:rolleyes: I know how talented she is, but if she would face Serena, she problably loose 0-6 0-6.
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:18 AM
Lindsay has shown the door for Steffi at the Wimby finals. She's wise enough to decide retirement after that 'coz she knows what happens next.:cool:
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:20 AM
Venus Williams (USA) vs. Steffi Graf (GER)
1996-08-12 Los Angeles Hardcourt R16 Steffi Graf (GER) 6-4 6-4
1999-01-11 Sydney Hardcourt QF Steffi Graf (GER) 4-6 6-2 6-4
1999-02-15 Hannover Indoor Hardcourt SF Venus Williams (USA) 6-3 3-6 6-3
1999-03-15 Key Biscayne Hardcourt SF Venus Williams (USA) 6-2 6-4
1999-06-21 Wimbledon Grass QF Steffi Graf (GER) 6-2 3-6 6-4
Steffi Graf (GER) leads 3:2
Hard: Tied 2:2
Clay: Tied 0:0
Grass: Steffi Graf (GER) leads 1:0
Indoor: Venus Williams (USA) leads 1:0
Serena Williams (USA) vs. Steffi Graf (GER)
1999-01-11 Sydney Hardcourt R16 Steffi Graf (GER) 6-2 3-6 7-5
1999-03-01 Indian Wells Hardcourt F Serena Williams (USA) 6-3 3-6 7-5
Hard: Tied 1:1
Clay: Tied 0:0
Grass: Tied 0:0
Indoor: Tied 0:0
That Wimbeledon ¼ final match between Vee and Steffi was actually the best match that year, and my favourite Wimby match to date...
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:20 AM
It is 1-1 against Serena and 3-2 against Venus...
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:22 AM
After beating Venus 7-5 in the third and losing to BA Davey 7-5 6-4 is not so bad~
22 Grandslam...let see if the 3 of them combined(Williams, Davey) can match that in their careers.
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:24 AM
Of course not... but this is a different era with more more contenders for slams...
Maybe if you throw in Capriati, Monica and Martina, they can match Steffi... :)
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:25 AM
Wow....so Steffi has a SUPERB record against all the top players?
she leads Hingis, Monica, don't know about Lindsay.
No.1 the longest too.
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:42 AM
Well, the sisters are much better players now!!
Lindsay and Martina use to have the sisters number but look at them now. Except Lindsay, Lindsay never had Serenas number...
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:46 AM
Well, Steff was old and they had their chances against her but she tied Serena and leads Venus.
Venus should have beaten Steffi because she was 19 yo and Steffi was 30.
Anyway, Steffi's record against all the top players is amazing.
She leads everybody and is tied with Serena.
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:48 AM
yeah, I guess
Steffi was great
Jun 10th, 2002, 08:31 AM
THis reminds me of how Martina N somehow managed to keep her record with Steffi tired, despite most of their matches being played when Martina N was in her late 20's, or 30's.
Jun 10th, 2002, 08:40 AM
lucas I am pretty biased towards serena's abbillities and talents but I doubt she would beat Steffi 6:0 6:0;)
Jun 10th, 2002, 08:42 AM
STEFFI ia one of the best ever! We have yet to see how the Williams sisters would fare
Jun 10th, 2002, 08:42 AM
Don't know why this has to be mentioned at all. Steffi in the first place never had it that easy against the sisters. And we are talking during a time when the sisters were still developing as players
What makes anyone think Steffi could put a dent in them now?
Jun 10th, 2002, 08:45 AM
Serena was very impressing when she beat Steffi in indian wells 99!
Jun 10th, 2002, 08:52 AM
Right Irma and we are talking about a player who ended up winning the US Open that year.
I just don't think comparing matches from one year to another is a valid argument why players should come out of retirement.
Jun 10th, 2002, 08:59 AM
Steffi retired at the right time imho
I would not be happy when she came back and would make a fool out of herself!
That would make me cry :sad:
Jun 10th, 2002, 09:03 AM
I couldn't agree more with irma.:kiss:
Jun 10th, 2002, 09:55 AM
Steffi impoved, that she was the best for so long and against so many generations. I miss her sooo much, but I don`t wish Steffi could return to give all these girls a whooping. I wish she could return to play her best, then the WTA tour could have much more great and thrilling matches than right now. I wish she could still play and show all jung people what means power tennis + quicknes + class
But Steffi has done what she has wanted to do. And she has nothing more to prove ! She is simply the best ever ! :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:
Jun 10th, 2002, 09:59 AM
Stefi is very happy where she is right now.
Who knows, Matri may be joining her if the rehab is not up to par.
Jun 10th, 2002, 10:02 AM
She retired let her be she enjoying life without tennis with Andre and her little son!
Jun 10th, 2002, 11:23 AM
Steffi played and beat 3 generations of tennis players. Navratalova, Seles, Hingis/Williams.
Jun 10th, 2002, 11:33 AM
Stefi knew when to get out.
She would have ended up on the Williams spanking list. :)
Jun 10th, 2002, 11:36 AM
I agree with Tee.:)
Jun 10th, 2002, 01:33 PM
don't even think about that nysaga, if u don't want to crash reputation of Graf...
If she would come back she would find herself weaped by these girls that's for sure, even bieng very young and inexperienced they already were big problem for her so i don't see her winning any of them now, no way the gap is too huge.
Yeah u r right LucasArg even on clay I wouldn't give any chance to Graf against Serena...
Jun 10th, 2002, 02:12 PM
Steffi's record against Lindsay wasn't even that great... it was 8-6... and considering that Steffi played Lindsay at her prime and Lindsay's developmental stage, that is not spectacular...
But I agree... Steffi is one of the greatest players ever... :D
Jun 10th, 2002, 02:57 PM
W_R Lindsay beat Steffi 5 times after 98 when Steffi was not at her prime anymore!
imho her prime ended with the masters 96! because in 97 she played bad all year and 98 and 99 after being out for more then a year was not her best time either!
Jun 10th, 2002, 02:59 PM
Find somebody else to sic on the sisters, cause Graf has kicked all the ass she is going to kick. She's way too busy wiping ass now. (Gil):)
NOBODY will surpass her slam count.
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:01 PM
not that it really matter see because when steffi retired the new queen won the next grand slam tournament, that must have been a sign;)