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Mikey
Jun 10th, 2002, 01:35 AM
from bob larson's tennis news:

"Headlining the field will, of course, be Jelena Dokic, who finds herself in her customary situation of playing a tournament every week even when it can't make the slightest iota of difference in anything. (If Dokic wins, she's #8. If she loses, she's #8. If she had taken the last month off, she'd still be #8. That's what her schedule is like. She has apparently stopped playing doubles -- but she still refuses to take a week off.)"

lol - ok, maybe it's not THAT funny, but you have to admit, she does play an awful lot.

CB
Jun 10th, 2002, 01:39 AM
Hehehehe!

Of course she plays a lot. She will only stop when she is really burned out :sad: It's such a pity on wasting such talent :)

Berlin_Calling
Jun 10th, 2002, 01:49 AM
thats pretty funny ;)

babsi
Jun 10th, 2002, 02:23 AM
It really isn't news when she isn't playing one week, she is one of 3 players in the top 100 that have played over 30 tournaments.

There will be a point in her career when her body will simply burn-out because it can't take it anymore.

She has had lots of niggling injuries this season all because when she got her injury in Paris she didn't let the injury heal.

Also she is committed for all of the hardcourt events before the US Open which is simply insane because it is obvious that hardcourts cause the most injuries.

I just hope that she realises at some point that she is playing too much and will schedule better or otherwise she could be retiring much sooner than people think.

AjdeNate!
Jun 10th, 2002, 02:26 AM
Jelly...please take a vacation!

Williams Rulez
Jun 10th, 2002, 02:34 AM
Oh man... my poor baby... who is making you do this?! :fiery:

Diamond
Jun 10th, 2002, 02:52 AM
Does anyone know why she's playing all these tournaments, even with the constant threat of injury. Is it for the money? Is her father forcing her to play just to make more money. This is very disturbing. I know she's still young, but she could burn herself out in a few years. Does anyone know why she's playing all these tournaments back to back?

SM
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:56 AM
go jelena keep it going..:):):):)

-Sonic-
Jun 10th, 2002, 12:30 PM
keep it going and be completely crippled by 26. :(

oh, and give all those players the bonus points they deserve.

SM
Jun 10th, 2002, 01:13 PM
um sonic she obviously thrives on matches!!!!!!!! her clay season was one which 99% of the tour wouldve envied

Ryan
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:16 PM
Are you crazy SM? She won ONE tier IV, and made the finals of a Tier 3. The Quarters of the french too, but it's not a stellar season by ANY stretch of the mind. I hope she plays until she burns out so she can realize hwat she's doing to her body, and STOP.

CC
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:20 PM
Yeah, I don't understand why she does this either.

Jay
Jun 10th, 2002, 03:56 PM
I know exactly why she does it

Rollo
Jun 10th, 2002, 04:16 PM
Jelena seems to have become a Manuela Maleeva for the 1990's.
Play a ton, become a permanent lower top tenner who never really challenges the top guns, and retire in her mid 20s very wealthy.

SM is right that 99% of the tour would die for that kind of career.
She'd challenge more for majors though if she played less and planned a sane schedule.

Come-on-kim
Jun 10th, 2002, 04:19 PM
Well, it's a lot!!!!! Bur Jelena is a great player, I hope her body will be good!!

I think it's good for the tournaments to have such a player!!!!

Monica_Rules
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:28 PM
Well she'll be the one upset when she has to take about 6 months off when she gets a major injury!

And i wont be that upset she will hav brought it on herself!

Nikola
Jun 10th, 2002, 05:46 PM
so what,maybe she doesn't care,maybe she wants to play 2-3 years as a pro player

Jay
Jun 10th, 2002, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Monica_Rules
Well she'll be the one upset when she has to take about 6 months off when she gets a major injury!

And i wont be that upset she will hav brought it on herself!

would you be upset if she never suffered a major injury throughout her career ?

baleineau
Jun 10th, 2002, 07:28 PM
i think jelena's fine. possibly she felt that missing the aussie season left her without matches and she came back a bit rusty.

remember, when players aren't in tournaments, they'll still be practising or doing some other exercise. i think jelena prefers to play tournaments and be match tough.

as she gets wealthier and less excited about being on tour, you'll see her concentrate on the major tournaments, with a schedule closer to the current top-10 players.

31 is a bit too many tournaments, especially as she plays so many in a row, but she's rational like all the other top players and figures that this system is paying off at the moment.

as for injuries......many of the burn-outs have not necesssarily been to girls who played too many events in their late-teens. there are lots of other issues involved.

Couver
Jun 10th, 2002, 07:31 PM
Well I guess she is doing what she thinks is best. She may need the extra match play for confidence or something, none of us really know.

I do think she should take some time off this year at least. Simply because she has these nagging little injuries that keep her from moving forward in tournaments.

LozHippy
Jun 10th, 2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Rollo
Jelena seems to have become a Manuela Maleeva for the 1990's.
Play a ton, become a permanent lower top tenner who never really challenges the top guns, and retire in her mid 20s very wealthy.


It's a bit early to say that isn't it?
I bet you she's top 5 in 2 years time :)
That said, I have no view on her schedule other than I hope she knows best.

jd4eva
Jun 10th, 2002, 08:14 PM
When you look at what she would be doing when she's not playing at a tournament, you realise why she plays. I mean, she'll train 6-8 hours a day when she's not playing tournaments, at tournaments she'll play a match and maybe train 1.5 - 2 hrs a day. It all balances out and she's cut back on the doubles, so I don't think it's a big issue right now.

Richie77
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by ILUVJELENA
When you look at what she would be doing when she's not playing at a tournament, you realise why she plays. I mean, she'll train 6-8 hours a day when she's not playing tournaments, at tournaments she'll play a match and maybe train 1.5 - 2 hrs a day. It all balances out and she's cut back on the doubles, so I don't think it's a big issue right now.

That makes sense to me. I was concerned about her schedule earlier, but you can't argue with making the quarters of Roland Garros.
If she wants to play as much as she wants, then play on Jelena!

disposablehero
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:47 AM
I just hope she doesn't forget to play Palermo. That would be a shame.

jd4eva
Jun 11th, 2002, 08:08 AM
Yeah, I mean a lot is being made of her schedule, the way I see it is that she looks like she's over her injuries. She re-hired her former fitness trainer Mike Nishihara and he's been with her since Strasbourg, obviously he will know her limits of what she should and shouldn't do. I think when you put things in perspective, I think say about a 1.5 hr match evens up to 6-8 hours of training, so why shouldn't she get some match fitness up instead of just hitting the practise court? She says her serve is excellent in practise, but it breaks down sometimes in matches, I mean the more she can practise that then the better it will become. It's a chance for her to work on things, because working on them in practise and implementing them into matches is a totally different thing, if she can play these events and still keep winning then I really don't see what the big deal is.

Jay
Jun 11th, 2002, 09:20 AM
It is a big deal ILUVJELENA, at least on this message board.

This question of Jelena playing too much has not only been the topic of this thread, but also 34 ( well, I have no idea how many but it's a lot) previous threads all of which contain the same opinions for and against by more or less the same posters.

I tell you what, I'll ask the question every day from now on in my Tricky-dadian thread.

Crazy Canuck
Jun 11th, 2002, 09:46 AM
I think that most of the people who are making a big deal of it are just concerned.

Frankly I wonder why she plays so much too if she is stil injured- I hope that she knows best, but can't help but worry about what she is doing to her body.

Though 34 is a tad much ;)

King Aaron
Jun 11th, 2002, 10:08 AM
coming from a fan.. she does play an awful lot..

salima
Jun 11th, 2002, 10:57 AM
She plays a lot, and supposingly she prefer it that way. she holds a high standard in her play, but a heavy argument against playing week after week like this is that it is very difficult to be any better. To better your play you have to take the time to perfectionize. I think.

Jay
Jun 11th, 2002, 11:30 AM
I still haven't heard anything new that hasn't been said before in this thread and the 34 similar threads before it.

Is that the only 'news' regarding Dokic that interests you ?

her schedule ?

which by the way I know for a fact is the last thing that is on her mind at the moment and even her performance at Birmingham this week is of no importance to her.

She will probably be going through the motions at Birmingham this week and it wouldn't be a surprise to me if she was to get turned over in the early rounds.

There are things afoot that will have serious reprecussions for a lot of people who are involved in the running of Woman's tennis and Jelena is well aware that all hell is going to break loose.

Jelena Online has hinted at this things on numerous occasions and so have I in my Tricky-dadian thread.

But it's ok, you lot carry on worrying about her schedule while we at Jelena Online will concern ourselves with other matters

Such as threats that were made to her to comply with something (which she hasn't) amongst other things.

tennischick
Jun 11th, 2002, 11:45 AM
even Larson is pointing out that she plays too much! the only benefit is the $$ bec it makes no difference to her ranking. it must therefore be the $$ incentive as Rollo says -- this is the clearest piece of evidence for it. so she will retire rich and spend the rest of her life recovering. it's her choice. i don't like her tennis anyway -- all that side-to-side bashing becomes boring after a while.

Jay
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:30 PM
who the fuck is Larson ?

I've heard of a Henrik Larsson who plays for Celtic and Sweden.

Jay
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:33 PM
ahh Larson is the chap that runs that basic design piss poor tennis site.

I tell you what, if I ran a website full time it would be a lot better then that pile of pooh.

Jay
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:43 PM
well, I've just had a quick look at Larson's 'tennis news' just to check that it's as bad as I thought it was the last time I looked at it which was a while ago.

And it is.

The design is basic, the graphics are poor quality and there are script errors.

However I can see from the credit at the bottom of the page that Larson didn't design the site himself, instead he paid someone else to do it.

hmm

as for the 'tennis news' to be honest I couldn't find any. All I could find was a list of tournament previews or 'a look forward' but I couldn't find any 'news' as such.

Maybe it's there but I was unable to find it.

If that's the case then that is bad site design.

-Sonic-
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:45 PM
miaow.

Jay
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Sonic The Hedgehog
miaow.

LOL

too right

I'm in a fighting mood today, one of the guys at work half torched a customers car so I'm taking on all comers.

Anyone else wanna cross swords with me ?

Jay
Jun 11th, 2002, 01:33 PM
Hmm just had another look at Larson's 'tennis news' just to see if I could find any. Besides I've got nothing better to do, at least nothing I feel like doing, I'm well pissed off.

Anyway, I did find the section that said 'Daily up to the minute news' but it turns out to be a link to subscribe for his daily newspaper.

Going by the description, to be fair, it seems like a very comprehensive newspaper indeed and one that's well worth a read even at 100 bucks a year or whatever it was.

So the publishing of only previews on the website is probably just a marketing ploy to encourage visitors to subscribe. There's no point visitor's subscribing if all the news is printed on the website.

But it still a poor website. There's no excuse for having poor quality images etc.

I could knock up something better in an hour.

But I won't.

As I said I'm not in the mood to do anything at the moment.

CC
Jun 11th, 2002, 04:05 PM
I think you scared everyone away.

Nikola
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:24 PM
not me

Mikey
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Jay
It is a big deal ILUVJELENA, at least on this message board.

This question of Jelena playing too much has not only been the topic of this thread, but also 34 ( well, I have no idea how many but it's a lot) previous threads all of which contain the same opinions for and against by more or less the same posters.

I tell you what, I'll ask the question every day from now on in my Tricky-dadian thread.

first of all, my point in starting this thread was not to make "a big deal," as you seem to be spazzing about, over dokic's schedule. i just found the portion of the article (seen at the top of the page) to be kinda funny. so calm down.

second of all, who are you to criticize an avid fan? he is clearly someone who likes to inform people of what is to come. there's no "news" as it comes out, but he's always ready w/ the preview and with results. personally, i enjoy reading the previews every week b/c it highlights important events in the tournament, possibilites of outcomes, and changes in the rankings. do you do that on your sight every week for every player in the tournament? no. so stop complaining!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Jay
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:40 PM
I like to apoligise to everyone for my mood earlier but I've had a really shitty day at the garage.

I don't often snap like that and I apologise to Tennischick for snapping at her 'Larson says' comment and I even apologise to Bob Larson himself although I still stand by my remarks that the people he hired to design his website should and could have made a better job of it.

Sorry everyone.

tennischick
Jun 12th, 2002, 02:27 AM
i had no idea you were snapping at me. for real. and your ignorance about Larson spoke for itself so i really didn't take your comments seriously after that. for real.

Jay
Jun 12th, 2002, 07:26 AM
hmm

who is Larson then ? I mean is he 'big' in the tennis world. I confess I am totally ignorant about him.