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Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:28 PM
Jennifer won in 2 easy sets last year for AO. Mary won in 2 easy sets to win Roland Garros. Lindsay won in 2 sets over Steffi to win Wimbledon.

You guys except so much just because they let you down so many times. So this match, which was actually better than A LOT of their matches, that actually had an interesting scoreline and was a rollercoaster ride was boring?! I just don't see it. Some of you just want so bad for them to win in like 3 sets, 10-8 in the 3rd. Dude! Not every match will be like that. Get over it, move on, don't lose sleep over something so ridiculous to cry about. But of course, if this exact match switched finalists or just had one Williams in it vs. another player, would it be boring?! Nnnooooooooo. And you can say yes it would, but because the finalists wouldn't be sisters with unnecessary controversy around them, I am sure no one would complain, so if you say yes, I choose not to believe you.

ˇFELICITATIONS RENA!

R. DIS
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:31 PM
When every point is an error then yes, its boring!!!!!!!!!!

smygelfh
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:35 PM
Actually, this match wasn't that bad. Lots of well played rallies, but of course also a lot of horrible errors, and it lacked the excitement that a close duel would give, but that could be said about the other finals you mention too. And of course, if you don't like any of the players involved, it will be more boring ;)

Grats to Serena! :)

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:35 PM
There were A LOT of winners by Serena. The truth is, if it were 2 different players, no one would care. You're so transparent...

R. DIS
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:36 PM
face it, the match was shit!!!!!!!!!!!

c2
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:39 PM
I don't think it was boring. The emotions that were obvious on the faces of Serena, Venus AND Oracene , as well as some excellent rallies kept it interesting. :) It was nice to see them use their power on each other.

Infiniti2001
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:40 PM
I agree Mrs Guga... Although my heart is still breaking :sad: <sob sob> I enjoyed the match for the most part... There were some awesome shots... Bottom-line Serena wanted it more than Venus (whose serve deserted her :sad: )
I don't care what any haters say, for me it was quite an honor to have watched the sisters on the court. First class act with humility. (I just wish Venus had won ):sad: :sad:

tennischick
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:43 PM
i wonder what the TV ratings will be like this time? at the USO they scored a record viewing share. will the same hold for this tourny are or folks becoming blase about seeing them play?

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:45 PM
I don't think Americans will be as interested in an all-Williams French Open final than an all-Williams US Open final

BK4ever
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:48 PM
R.Dis, go piss on yourself

Rocketta
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:49 PM
I don't think you can compare the tv rankings of a prime-time live final with a tape delayed match!

Jovon
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:51 PM
I enjoyed the match. If it had went 7-6, 6-7, 7-6 certain posters would have still said it was boring. Those same posters are still probably believing in their minds that Venus and Serena can't win Roland Garros, even though they just saw Serena win it!


Next up: Williams vs. Williams final at Wimbledon !!!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Bright Red
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:55 PM
Well that's too bad if they thought it was boring. I thought it was great. People are just going to have to get used to the Sisters dominating. It's simple: if they want to see better finals, then they should write their faves and ask them to play better.

TeeRexx
Jun 8th, 2002, 06:07 PM
I thought it was a very good match with a tremendous ending and one of the best trphy ceremonies EVER.

VENUS, the family photographer. I LOVED it!! :)

Sean
Jun 8th, 2002, 06:59 PM
No next up:

Serena Vs Anna - Final of Wimbledon :D

Mark43
Jun 8th, 2002, 07:03 PM
It comes down to something called drama. There seems to be a lack of it in Venus and Serena's showdowns. It is intangible, but somehow palpable. Perhaps some people here felt that drama. I for one did not. Tennis is a game of personalities. Contrast fuels drama.

I like V+S equally. I wanted Serena to win because I felt she deserved it after such a fantastic year but I got on the Internet, saw the score and quit watching the taped match as I just totally lost interest.

This was an error fest of the first order. Venus hit 4 winners and had 55 UE's. She had ZERO aces and 9 double faults. Serena hit 18 winners and 59 UE's.

All these stats would be meaningless if there were just a bit of drama exhibited. There wasn't, so the UE's, the ball's sprayed into the net and beyond the baseline start to stand out. Thursdays match between Serena and Jennifer had similar stats (horrid UE's vs. Winners ratio), but it had enough drama to win a few Emmy awards. Of course this is my opinion, and others might see things differently.

I realize the Williams sisters are supremely talented and if they chose, they will rule women's tennis for some time to come. There is no doubt about that. But when they play one another, their matches, understandably lack drama and at times look pedestrian.

Gumbycat
Jun 8th, 2002, 07:07 PM
You will get DRAMA if Venus and Serena play the Wimbledon Final!

persond
Jun 8th, 2002, 07:32 PM
:( R.Dis and Mark35.

Please point out to me the difference in the UFE count in Venus' and Serenas' match versus the UFE in all the matches at the FO!! Correct me if I'm wrong, but the so-called "clay specialists" seem to have posted unusally high UFE rates themselves!!! It's as if you have on blinders when viewing the Sisters' matches and focus only on the negatives, when, in actuality, the other players are doing no better than they are.!!! Help me to understand this phenomenon!!!

The finals was no classic, but certainly no worse than some of the other finals we've seen. Stop holding the Sisters to different standards and expecting so much more than from other players. That's where the "idea" of "hata" comes in to play.:mad: :mad:

Finally, I find it extremely interesting that suddenly womens' tennis has become so boring, now that the likes of Martina Hingis, Graf or Seles is no longer dominating the tour. Since the Williamses have gotten better and are beginning to win almost every tournament they enter, we suddenly have a loss of interest in the matches. The matches are boring, they don't think on the court and are all hit, hit, and hit harder. UFE error counts off the charts. Balonga!!!

The Sisters are the new faces of champions of the WTA. Get use to it!!!:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

persond
Jun 8th, 2002, 07:36 PM
:o Sorry Mark35, I got your post mixed up with another post!! Please accept my humble apology!!!:hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

RockSteady
Jun 8th, 2002, 07:59 PM
This match was extremely boring. Their were all of THREE people in the crowd clapping (the most tame French crowd ever: they were all asleep). Venus and Serena just make errors, errors, and more errors when they play eachother. It doesn't even look like they are battling or trying to think about their shots out there: they just hit it hard into the net. No point construction whatsoever.

Cam'ron Giles
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by RockSteady
This match was extremely boring. Their were all of THREE people in the crowd clapping (the most tame French crowd ever: they were all asleep). Venus and Serena just make errors, errors, and more errors when they play eachother. It doesn't even look like they are battling or trying to think about their shots out there: they just hit it hard into the net. No point construction whatsoever.

Where you been buddy?:wavey:

tennisfun
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:17 PM
hi Rocksteady, you finally showed up? It's quite obvious fly always likes to chase shit.

Becool
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:21 PM
Aren't you tired RockSteady? :rolleyes:

RockSteady
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:22 PM
I was too busy, um, you know, having a life and all that. Silly me, between tournaments, exams, and hanging out with friends, I forgot to put down in my journal "visit WTAworld.com". What was I thinking?

tennisfun
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:23 PM
you gotta a life Rocksteady? I am surprised! well you must be busy as a "pretty woman" I guess.

RockSteady
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:25 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't comprehend jibberish. When you learn to construct sentences that make sense and have a point, let me know.

Jem
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:40 PM
I thought this match was a bit better than some of the previous Venus-Serena clashes, but it just wasn't a quality final in my opinion. The play was too sloppy, except for those moments when Serena dominated. Venus played far below her usual standards.

But, in truth, I think the final kept to form for the whole women's tournament. It was one of the most boring women's Grand Slam tournaments in some time and a far cry from last year's tournament. I can't think of a single good women's match I saw in the entire tournament, including the Capriati-Serena match. As much as I love the women's game, their quality of play at the moment can't hold a candle to what the men are producing. Yes, they have the personality and the rivals etc., but at some point, they need also to rediscover the winning formula on court.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:44 PM
Lol! You all are so gosh darn crazy in here!!! I know I shouldn't do this but I just can't help myself, so here it goes:

if Martina were to meet Venus on CLAY, who would MOST consider the favorite to be? Exactly. I'm not being offensive, or whatever. It's just opinion. And I did the rest for the top 10. I said to myself "who would be the favorite if X and Y played a match on clay tomorrow?" Simple as that. from rocksteady

Um didn't venus beat martina in berlin? The way I see it, Martina is still a great champion, however, back in 1997 she just didn't have any serious competition. I mean, she most likely would have won a true grandslam if it weren't for that horse incident, imo.

Yet as the years went on, her rivals began to get better. They improved their games both physically and mentally. Now we're at the point where some players still have room to grow and improve and seem to be doing that, while others have simply leveled off.

If martina doesnt rebuild her serve and maybe even learn to add weight to her shots like justine does, then her best years are probably behind her, but maybe not, she did make the ao final.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:45 PM
jem, you must be joking, have you seen the unforced error count in the men's matches? please tell me what the big difference is?

RockSteady
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:46 PM
cybelle, the top women hit more errors and less winners than the men. Not to mention that the men play matches twice as long. Do you see any men's matches with over 200 combined UEs?

tennischick
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:56 PM
Mark i understand what you're trying to say but i don't see how comparing the error count in the match against capriati is relevant. i agree that there was more drama in the capriati-serena match than there was today (sister-sister) but i don't think that the error count in either one is relevant. with the capriati match the drama came from watching serena fight her way back into the match and then take control of it.

i think the real problem lies in the sisters similarity of style. it's more drmetaic IMO to see either of the sisters play against just about anyone else bec it's often two different styles of tennis coming together in competition. for instance, altho' both Jen and Lindsay have a similar baseline power style, they are more willing (than the sisters) to engage in longer rallies and they try to construct the point more carefully. but that is not Williams-style tennis. in Williams-style tennis you go for the winner ASAP, preferably on the return of serve, and make the point as quickly as possible. in other words, there is less emphasis on point-construction or on creativity. the lack of drama (or lessened drama, i don't think it was completely missing) comes from seeing two players doing the exact same thing. for some this is as boring as watching Amanda Coetzer vs Conchita -- too many moonballs over and over. but put either woman up against a contrasting style of tennis and suddenly the match becomes infinitely more dramatic. that's my humble opinion.

like it or not Williams-style tennis is going to dominate for a while. at least until their bodies break down -- altho' they have now hired a trainer so that may never happen either. why not try the ATP if you want to see contrasting styles of tennis? drama still exists there! love your posts btw.


Originally posted by Mark35
It comes down to something called drama. There seems to be a lack of it in Venus and Serena's showdowns. It is intangible, but somehow palpable. Perhaps some people here felt that drama. I for one did not. Tennis is a game of personalities. Contrast fuels drama.

I like V+S equally. I wanted Serena to win because I felt she deserved it after such a fantastic year but I got on the Internet, saw the score and quit watching the taped match as I just totally lost interest.

This was an error fest of the first order. Venus hit 4 winners and had 55 UE's. She had ZERO aces and 9 double faults. Serena hit 18 winners and 59 UE's.

All these stats would be meaningless if there were just a bit of drama exhibited. There wasn't, so the UE's, the ball's sprayed into the net and beyond the baseline start to stand out. Thursdays match between Serena and Jennifer had similar stats (horrid UE's vs. Winners ratio), but it had enough drama to win a few Emmy awards. Of course this is my opinion, and others might see things differently.

I realize the Williams sisters are supremely talented and if they chose, they will rule women's tennis for some time to come. There is no doubt about that. But when they play one another, their matches, understandably lack drama and at times look pedestrian.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 8th, 2002, 09:04 PM
Other than the cries of a baby in the stands, it was eerily quiet during stretches of the first set, as though spectators couldn't decide for whom to root. A few found a solution, yelling: "Allez, Ser-enus!''



Serena has won their last two matches to improve to 3-5 against Venus. It was the first time in 11 Grand Slam matches between sisters in the Open Era that the younger one won. Take that, Big Sis!

Jem
Jun 8th, 2002, 09:07 PM
cybelledarkholmexx, consider how many shots the men may hit in a rally before an error occurs. With the women, five shots constitutes a pretty long rally at the moment. The men use far more of the court and hit many more balls during a point before any error occurs. Plus, they hit many more winners than women do. Of course, this is a clay court, so you do have to take that into account. All in all, I just feel the men have played some really good matches this year, whereas the women have turned in some horror shows. It's just my opinion, and if you think the quality of the women's matches is superb and above reproach, then more power to you. You're obviously enjoying the game, and that's what it's all about in my book. I just happen to see the game a bit differently than you.

tennischick
Jun 8th, 2002, 09:08 PM
the lack of crowd response also helped to kill the drama of this match. it makes a huge difference when the crowd gets into a match and starts rooting for a player -- like they did for Clarisa towards the end against Venus. but you're right Cybelle, it's like they couldn't decide which sister to choose so they didn't get involved. too bad. it muted some of the dramatic tension.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 8th, 2002, 09:08 PM
safin vs grosjean 3 sets



Match Summary

Grosjean (FRA) Safin (RUS)

1st Serve % 46 of 88 = 52 % 35 of 64 = 55 %

Aces 0 2

Double Faults 0 1

Unforced Errors 64 36

Winning % on 1st Serve 24 of 46 = 52 % 30 of 35 = 86 %

Winning % on 2nd Serve 22 of 42 = 52 % 21 of 29 = 72 %

Winners (Including Service) 17 21

Break Point Conversions 0 of 1 = 0 % 5 of 12 = 42 %

Net Approaches 9 of 14 = 64 % 16 of 22 = 73 %

Total Points Won 59 93

Fastest Serve 193 KPH 203 KPH

Average 1st Serve Speed 172 KPH 186 KPH

Average 2nd Serve Speed 137 KPH 139 KPH


yes a few more winners but it doesnt look that different from the capriati williams match or the williams williams match. i just think you shouldnt make blanket statements. Here is the two sets from monica and venus.

Match Summary

Seles (USA) Williams (USA)

1st Serve % 29 of 51 = 57 % 31 of 63 = 49 %

Aces 1 3

Double Faults 4 4

Unforced Errors 40 25

Winning % on 1st Serve 17 of 29 = 59 % 24 of 31 = 77 %

Winning % on 2nd Serve 8 of 22 = 36 % 14 of 32 = 44 %

Winners (Including Service) 21 19

Break Point Conversions 2 of 5 = 40 % 4 of 6 = 67 %

Net Approaches 7 of 10 = 70 % 6 of 11 = 55 %

Total Points Won 50 64

Fastest Serve 171 KPH 190 KPH

Average 1st Serve Speed 150 KPH 164 KPH

Average 2nd Serve Speed 135 KPH 126 KPH

Dawn Marie
Jun 8th, 2002, 09:21 PM
Mrs Guga I think alot of people are pissed that team Williams conquered the red clay and thus to them that is boring. Personally I find it a great thing to see two sisters meet in a slam final. It is history and I am alive to witness it. I am greatful for that.

GO TENNIS!!

Go Serena and Go Venus!! Good luck meeting in the Wimbeldon finals.:)

Playa
Jun 8th, 2002, 09:45 PM
bump!
This thread made me laugh so much!
:bounce:

Halardfan
Jun 8th, 2002, 09:46 PM
I think you can make a good case for saying that Venus and Serena are the two best players in the world right now, but its a shame that they have yet to really produce their best tennis against each other, because then we would have a classic on our hands.

As it was, it was an anti-climax, with Venus way way below form and out of sorts, and Serena in moderate form by her high standards, though you couldn't fault her effort.

It must be incredibly difficult for them to play each other, but I hope the more they do it the easier it may become, and then we'll get to see the great tennis we know both are capable of.

victory1
Jun 8th, 2002, 10:04 PM
I just watched the match (2 times), I thought it was a very good match. They both started tight, but loosen up later. There were some incredible shot making! Venus struggled with her serve, but she's been struggling with her serve way before Roland Garros, that final she played agaisnt Kim she served at 45%. Serena really got into the match, she pumped her fist, she even gave Venus "the look" a couple of times . Some people will never be satisfy, no matter what the sisters do, their match could have been 7-6, 6-7,7-6 and you still here complaints. The 1st set lasted over an hour, with some great rallies. Even the sucky commentators admit this was a good match.

Frau Antje
Jun 8th, 2002, 10:31 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz :rolleyes:

R. DIS
Jun 8th, 2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Mrs_Guga
There were A LOT of winners by Serena. The truth is, if it were 2 different players, no one would care. You're so transparent...

The fact is they aren't different players. They are number 1 and 2 in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!! I expect the two best players in the world to play a good match. This is going to keep making women's tennis look bad if they keep playing like cr@p against each other in finals.

victory1
Jun 8th, 2002, 10:34 PM
Here is the 1st write-up on the match. Very interesting!

YOUNGER SISTER DOMINATES FOR SECOND SLAM VICTORY

The Serena-Venus final: an on-court defense

By Matthew Cronin
********************

[Serena Williams]
Susan Mullane
Camerawork USA, Inc.

FROM ROLAND GARROS ? If you were around the press room on Saturday after Serena Williams 7-5 6-3 thrashing of her older sister, Venus, in the final and listened to what many of the non-U.S. press had to say, you would have thought that the Sisters Sledgehammer had just staged the worst performance since Natasha Zvereva was double-bagled by Steffi Graf here in 1988.

And I mean, staged, not played naturally.

EUROS QUESTION COMPETITIVENESS, BUT TR.NET DOESN'T
One Euro paper reportedly began its story with the headline "The Death of Women's Tennis," because it is the writer's contention that the Williamses will never play a high-quality match against each other and that because they are supremely talented they will likely play many more important finals against each other. Since the Roland Garros final was at least a 25 percent improvement in the U.S. Open final, it's hard to find much weight behind that argument. What would make sense is to believe that the more they play each other, the easier it will be come to dispense of sibling protectionism once the first ball is struck. Serena believes that and since she followed through with every promise she made over the past two weeks, I'm inclined to believe.

A group of Southern Europeans contended that Venus laid down for Serena, because there was no way that the four-time Grand Slam champ could have come off the court with only a handful of winners.

Oh, yes there is, because although Venus has not gotten the yips on her first serve in quite a while, she spent much of 1998 and 1999 getting the elbow on her serve, which is why Lindsay Davenport used to own her. Venus was nervous because she knew that Serena was playing better than she was coming into the match and knew if she didn't serve extremely well, she'd lose the contest. Consequently, she served terribly, Serena munched on her second serves and she went down. When Venus' base (her serve) is gone, she always struggles. And when she's up against a player as good as Serena, she's bound to start questioning herself.

VENUS SHEDS TEARS
But that does not mean that both women didn't fight ? they did ? and that there was no intrigue to the match. That does not mean that Serena didn't play beautifully in closing out the match, or that Venus felt like it was time for Serena to get another Slam title when it was her that was facing in the final. Venus did cry a little after losing and those were not fake tears. She was seriously disappointed in her play and anyone who has covered her for a fair amount of time and spends some time watching her facial expressions would know that.

Serena simply has played better tennis than Venus has since early March, snaring four titles and only losing three matches. She put in the work on clay during April and May and was riding high after taking out the reeling Jennifer Capriati. Her forehand was a bigger weapon during the fortnight, her backhand just as good, her return much more lethal and her serve more consistent. Plus, she's faster.

Sure, Venus had a psychological edge coming into the match, but Serena had stated loud and clear over the past two weeks that she wasn't going to going to go into a deep freeze against anyone anymore. Wasn't that pretty obvious when she wiped Venus out in Miami?

The final was not of the highest quality, but never lacked drama, not when the two of the world's biggest serves were being broken constantly, not when Venus jumped out to a 5-3 lead in the first set, or when Venus climbed back to 3-4 in the second set. You didn't really know the match was over until Serena jumped on Venus in the last game and that's what drama is all about.

Now, on a scale of 1 to 10 with the Graf-Seles 1995 U.S. Open final being a 10 for drama and quality, the Williams-Williams Roland Garros version rates about a 4. But at least when they play, there's a tremendous amount of interest leading up to the match all over the globe, which cannot be said of tomorrow's men's final, even if we tennis aficionados can't wait for Al Costa to whack his first inside-out forehand.

The bet here is that by 2004, a Venus-Serena final will be as well-played as any women's match we've seen in the past decade.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 8th, 2002, 10:45 PM
Well at least one journalist has some sense, too bad others can't follow in his foot steps and realize that with time each match between the sisters is getting better and better. Oh and like the man said, if you people out there think this match stunk then what did you think of the graf natasha double bagel? oh yeah that was a high quality match.:rolleyes:

Monica_Rules
Jun 8th, 2002, 10:51 PM
I have to say out of all Venus Vs Serena matches this was the best one i have seen by far but it still wasn't amazing it was very patchy sometimes great tennis sometimes good tennis but others quite bad.

Overall it was an OK match but it could have been better.

If they are to dominate tennis and play say in the wimbledon final i do hope the quality is better so womens tennis doesn't start loosing its popularity.

tennischick
Jun 8th, 2002, 10:52 PM
Now, on a scale of 1 to 10 with the Graf-Seles 1995 U.S. Open final being a 10 for drama and quality, the Williams-Williams Roland Garros version rates about a 4. But at least when they play, there's a tremendous amount of interest leading up to the match all over the globe, which cannot be said of tomorrow's men's final, even if we tennis aficionados can't wait for Al Costa to whack his first inside-out forehand.

that's harsh. i'd rate the match higher than a 4. i can't believe he made all of those defensive statements and then turned around and gave them a 4! i'd rate the match a 6 personally. not the greatest but not bad either.

my larger concern is whether their "rivalry" may mean the death of women's tennis given the media griping he reports. or is this reaching too far?

R. DIS
Jun 8th, 2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by cybelledarkholmexx
Well at least one journalist has some sense, too bad others can't follow in his foot steps and realize that with time each match between the sisters is getting better and better. Oh and like the man said, if you people out there think this match stunk then what did you think of the graf natasha double bagel? oh yeah that was a high quality match.:rolleyes:

Venus and Serena are number 1 and 2 in the world. People expect a good tough match. That doesn't compare at all to Steffi play Natasha. Everyone knew steffi would kill her.

HEAVYHITTER
Jun 9th, 2002, 12:29 AM
If they walked out on the Court (at any final) and laid down their racquets and started cabbage patching.

I would be content. Quite Frankly, I, like most Williams fans - Do not like to see them play.

But for those few who do - you get what you tune into.

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 9th, 2002, 03:45 AM
Just go to page 1, read Jem's post, and that's all I would like to get across

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 9th, 2002, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by R. DIS


The fact is they aren't different players. They are number 1 and 2 in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!! I expect the two best players in the world to play a good match. This is going to keep making women's tennis look bad if they keep playing like cr@p against each other in finals.

What about the Lindsay and Martina rivalry where Lindsday kicked Marti's ass like 6-3 6-2 each time... they were no. 1 and 2 in the world. But does anyone care, notice, complain... nah... atleast Vee and Rena have a rivalry... just stop

You're so transparent

persond
Jun 9th, 2002, 04:24 AM
:confused:Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't RockSteady vow to NOT WATCH THE FINALS of the French Open?????:confused:

Amanda
Jun 9th, 2002, 04:56 AM
WOW! RockUnsteady finally decided to show it's face after being humiliated by his ridiculous prediction that Venus and Serena would not make it to the finals of RG! You've proven once again that you really do want to see Venus and Serena play.....Why did you watch any part of the RG finals coverage knowing that it was all about the Williams Sisters? Ha! Ha! Ha! Get ready for a lot more "boring" finals between Serena and Venus!

Amanda
Jun 9th, 2002, 04:58 AM
Still laughing @ RockUnsteady!!!!! Congratulations Venus and Serena!!!!!!!

Alan
Jun 9th, 2002, 07:10 AM
I think Venus could have done better. THe match left me hungry for more action. And yep! there were a lot of errors, but it's nice to see someone as young as Serena win

Experimentee
Jun 9th, 2002, 07:45 AM
I thought it was a good match, a lot of momentum swings and not as many UE's as usual. There were some, but thats to be expected when two players with this much power play each other. There were a lot of errors in the capriati-serena match and people seemed to like that one, so i dont know why this is any different. Maybe because the people who were bored dont like the Willaims sisters, so any match involving them is therefore boring?

Williams Rulez
Jun 9th, 2002, 09:01 AM
I was wondering the same thing Mrs Guga... :)

tennisfun
Jun 9th, 2002, 12:46 PM
Rocksteady, no wonder you are such an idiot! I just want to save your face.