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selesfan1
Dec 15th, 2001, 10:24 PM
We had a discussion in French class about this and I really don't know. i mean how do foreigners feel about having Mcdonalds and Burger king and places like that. Also who is the guy in france who srts fire to the mcdonalds?

Dahveed
Dec 15th, 2001, 10:28 PM
José bové

irma
Dec 15th, 2001, 10:29 PM
Well Everwhere I come in my country and there is a Mac Donalds it`s full with people so I guess here in Holland people are happy about it <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Giuliano
Dec 15th, 2001, 10:30 PM
Lol that guy's name is José Bové and he's the president of a peasant's confederation (?)and basically he's against Genetically Modified Plants (a word I made up lol)and a worldwide organizaton and why does my english suck when I need it? huh? <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Josh
Dec 15th, 2001, 10:39 PM
Well MacDonalds is not very popular over here in Belgium. I think it's the only country in the world where MacDonalds doesn't make profit. Probably because we have our own fastfood restaurant, Quick.

The two domains where American culture is still overwhelming is music and film. Almost all popular films over here are American but I must say that American influence on music has diminshed in recent years although American groups and singers are still very popular.

Monica_Rules
Dec 15th, 2001, 10:44 PM
I don't mind having a McDonalds eveywhere its part of British culture now.I personally don't like McDonalds food anymore it makes me feel sick every time i see it!<br />I agree about the film thing all films in the UK seem to have been made by America!Useually every now and again there a few British films out,a few indian and a few european-very rear though!<br />But if you think anout it America is the heart of the western world without it i doubt the rest of us would survive!

Double Fault
Dec 15th, 2001, 10:53 PM
I don't really notice it. The American and Brtish way of life seem so intertwined that I rarely notice a difference.

The only thing that hasn't taken off in Britain must the the American cars. Although Chrysler seem to be more and more popular on the roads.

McDonald's are on every corner. A high street is nothing without a McDonald's. I prefer Burger King myself, but they are American too, no?

Kart
Dec 15th, 2001, 11:16 PM
I don't think it's overwhelming, for some reason it's overwhelmingly embraced by the rest of the world - well UK teenagers anyway.

NejedlyKanepi
Dec 16th, 2001, 12:03 AM
the only thing were good for is money, dont embrace our culture. havent you people noticed how much it sucks ass?

dont get me started on fast food and its impact on the environment <img src="graemlins/firey.gif" border="0" alt="[Fiery]" /> <img src="graemlins/firey.gif" border="0" alt="[Fiery]" /> <img src="graemlins/firey.gif" border="0" alt="[Fiery]" /> <img src="graemlins/firey.gif" border="0" alt="[Fiery]" /> <img src="graemlins/firey.gif" border="0" alt="[Fiery]" />

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Dec 16th, 2001, 02:09 AM
I don't particularly care for McDonalds either.....but I'll take Taco Bell and Subway anyday <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Do they have those overseas? Belgians, Brits, etc.?

Scotso
Dec 16th, 2001, 02:28 AM
I try not to eat food from resturants. Hehe.

I'm rather used to American culture myself, being in America and all. But really American culture is just a combination of other cultures, so what's the big deal? <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Crazy Canuck
Dec 16th, 2001, 04:30 AM
Well I live In Canada, and people tend to assume we have no culture, and are just Americans in disguise <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

However, seeing as our cultures are essentially the exact same thing, I have little choice but to live with it <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

So I'm used to the fast paced, more-money-more-money-more-money culture

Josh
Dec 16th, 2001, 09:21 AM
Joshua, we don't really have a fastfood/takeaway culture here in Belgium. There are a few MacDonald's and other fastfood restaurants (not those you mentioned) but the only popular one is Quick.

gorecki
Dec 16th, 2001, 09:49 AM
It's probably not just fastfood, but stuff like nike, clothing labels, music, cars, the accent, etc etc etc.

irma
Dec 16th, 2001, 09:54 AM
We don`t have taco bell here, I need to go to America one day to check it out, I am realy curious, thanks to a certain poster from the cnn boards <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

gorecki
Dec 16th, 2001, 10:02 AM
irma! LOL!!! Was it a certain T. Nomi? <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

irma
Dec 16th, 2001, 10:06 AM
Hi Gorecki

Who else <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

MLF
Dec 16th, 2001, 10:09 AM
Sorry to my American friends but am I the only who thinks the words "America" and "culture" don't belong together in the same sentence?

gorecki
Dec 16th, 2001, 10:17 AM
<img src="smile.gif" border="0"> @ irma

Taco Bell...it's nice but not that great <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

veryborednow
Dec 16th, 2001, 10:36 AM
I really don't like Gap, it's as if they're trying to dress us as Americans, the clothes are so bland and ultimately so American. So Dawsons Creek<br />And now their bloody advert is literally begging us to buy their clothes ...

I love Dominoes Pizza though <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[ December 16, 2001: Message edited by: veryborednow ]</p>

Dawn Marie
Dec 16th, 2001, 10:39 AM
Mirjanafan I couldn't of said it better myself!! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Put it this way I feel ashamed at our country alot of times. I wouldn't wish to live anywhere else, (well maybe except Canada) but the American way is ugly at times.

Were run by money/violence/greed/sex/arrogance and boring ole cliche's. We cut down nature and build build build. We think were the shit but were not. lol

We cant even have a decent damn election. LOl <br />Hell we thought the Titanic wouldn't sink but Man's arrogance screwed that up. We think were untouchable and look at what happened Sept 11. We need to stay the hell out of people's problems and countries.

Note: I had a long debate about this earlier with my friend. So I am on a roll... lol <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

MLF
Dec 16th, 2001, 03:52 PM
Dawn Marie, I'm glad you didn't take offence! The way I see it many, many Americans are cultured as individuals but the package that is the USA often doesn't come across as too cultured.

Sam_Forever
Dec 16th, 2001, 06:15 PM
All I have to say is ABERCROMBIE & FITCH <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" /> <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" /> <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" />

Dawn Marie
Dec 16th, 2001, 06:52 PM
No problem Mirjanfan. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Anyway Thats because that package is all about White Mainstream America. I would love to see more Native American culture in other countries. We are the melting pot but alot of times you can't tell. By the way.. TACO BELL is not true Mexican food. lol <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> AS IF! <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Sam_Forever
Dec 16th, 2001, 07:07 PM
in your country do you guys have ABERCROMBIE & FITCH?

Martian KC
Dec 16th, 2001, 07:13 PM
I can't believe I'm actually saying this. <img src="redface.gif" border="0"> I agree with Dawn Marie!!! <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

BUT I would not want to live ANYWHERE ELSE!

NejedlyKanepi
Dec 17th, 2001, 08:54 PM
very bored:

GAP IS CRAP

<br /> <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" />

Halardfan
Dec 17th, 2001, 09:35 PM
I have mixed opinions...I used to live on burgers ans fast food before I went veggie, though I didnt like Mcdonalds because their burgers had this horrid sweet stuff on them...

I LOATHE the current US government and the influential hard right in America, and think the US has as many flaws as most countries, but has many strengths too. It is neither as good or as bad a place as some people might suppose. Kind of in the middle, like Britain, and most other places.

To end on a positive note, I was raised on American films and TV shows as much as any American, pretty much all of them are shown here in Britian. I have to say that America is THE home of cinema in the world, I love their movies, their glamour, their escapism. I like the Razzamattaz of domestic American sport too...the sheer over the top charm of Gridiron and Baseball. Im not the biggest fan of American music though...with the exception of the likes of Moby or REM.

Oh and it is the home of The Simpsons, and there are few finer things in the world than that. Well, none. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Bloody brilliant. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

thefreedesigner
Dec 18th, 2001, 08:33 AM
American Culture is the Anti-Culture.

Accept it for what is, for what is has made, then put it back in it's box and shut the lid....

<br />... don't throw away the key though, as it might come in handy later.

timmbo
Dec 18th, 2001, 12:13 PM
I agree with Pea and Dawn Marie. I think that as children Americans are taught certain things that are not always correct. We are not taught to celebrate our differences and other cultures, but rather we are taught to engage in selfishness. I dont think its intentional, but nonetheless it happens. Thats why we have so many school shootings and violence. I think that at an early age we should be taught to embrace others and accept and love them no matter what. However, this will never happen coz its too easy and makes too much sence, we like to make everything hard on ourselves. lol<br />By the way, Taco Bell is good, but like Dawn Marie said, its far from "real."

My favorie American resturant is Wendy's

gentenaire
Feb 5th, 2002, 08:14 PM
Beige, we can only watch the films that are being shown! Americans are used as test audience. When a film is big in the US, it'll definitely be released here. Films that don't do well are often skipped:(
The big block busters are announced months in advance, so that by the time it opens in the theatres people are eager to see it. The more talk a film gets, the better it'll do at the box office. It's not always the best movies that get the most advertising unfortunately.
European filmmakers simply cannot work with such enormous budgets, there's not enough money for a huge promotional campaign.
Also, while we don't have problems with subtitles, most Americans do. A foreign language film has to be more than excellent, has to receive incredible reviews before English speaking people would notice it. A film in English just needs a couple of big names and it'll sell.

gentenaire
Feb 5th, 2002, 09:45 PM
But since the budgets are so much smaller, it's not as easy to make an interesting film. Most of the American blockbuster depend on the visual effects, things European filmmakers don't have money for. People happen to love visual effects, horrible movies with great visual effects still attract huge crowds.

gentenaire
Feb 5th, 2002, 10:34 PM
Nope, never heard of any of those films, I don't think they've been shown anywhere.

gentenaire
Feb 5th, 2002, 10:45 PM
Just checked the Belgian ones at IMDb, the first one is an animation, the last one a documentary. That explains why they're not known. These aren't cinema films.

gentenaire
Feb 5th, 2002, 10:48 PM
Yes, there have been Belgian movies that did well. But you can't expect a small budget movie to compete with a billion dollar blockbuster.

Josh
Feb 5th, 2002, 10:56 PM
Pauline en Paulette was an excellent Flemish movie that won several prizes at different international film festivals.

matthias
Feb 28th, 2002, 07:09 PM
peter foley copied the complete question to a new thread


bad boy! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Oizo
Mar 8th, 2002, 10:37 AM
I don´t think so. :o
:rolleyes:

Dougal Maguire
Mar 19th, 2006, 10:01 PM
:lol: What a big bunch of eejits on here.:D

gsm
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:39 AM
peter foley copied the complete question to a new thread


bad boy! :eek: :eek: :eek:
what the!!!

tennisbum79
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:55 AM
I don't think it's overwhelming, for some reason it's overwhelmingly embraced by the rest of the world - well UK teenagers anyway.

It is a matter of semantic. I guess you are making a value judgment by saying the American are not imposing their culture, it is voluntary embraced.

I also would like to add that it not only the youth culture that is invading the world, also some aspect the business and politics is.

For business it is easy to see, most high tech companies originate from the US and the have set the standards.

But lately, American way of political campaigns has also been adopted abroad.

Israel and some former Eastern block countries have hired American political consultants to shape their TV and print messages, how to conduct themselves in debates, on campaign trail.

Even Tony Blair’s new Labor blue print was based on Bill Clinton's new Democrat model.

Of course this is not always done well, but it sure is a move to the right direction. Issues are not used to be discussed in many of these countries during campaingn.
On the other hand, it favors rich candidate who can afford these American consultants. On balance, this openeness in politic is good export.

azdaja
Mar 20th, 2006, 12:40 PM
But lately, American way of political campaigns has also been adopted abroad.

Israel and some former Eastern block countries have hired American political consultants to shape their TV and print messages, how to conduct themselves in debates, on campaign trail.

Even Tony Blair’s new Labor blue print was based on Bill Clinton's new Democrat model.

Of course this is not always done well, but it sure is a move to the right direction. Issues are not used to be discussed in many of these countries during campaingn.
yeah, and in the us they are being discussed so well most people don't even know what their candidates stand for.

if there is one aspect of american culture that i would never want to import it's their election campaigns. give me mcdoland's any time of the day.

Kart
Mar 20th, 2006, 09:52 PM
It is a matter of semantic. I guess you are making a value judgment by saying the American are not imposing their culture, it is voluntary embraced.

I also would like to add that it not only the youth culture that is invading the world, also some aspect the business and politics is.

For business it is easy to see, most high tech companies originate from the US and the have set the standards.

But lately, American way of political campaigns has also been adopted abroad.

Israel and some former Eastern block countries have hired American political consultants to shape their TV and print messages, how to conduct themselves in debates, on campaign trail.

Even Tony Blair’s new Labor blue print was based on Bill Clinton's new Democrat model.

Of course this is not always done well, but it sure is a move to the right direction. Issues are not used to be discussed in many of these countries during campaingn.
On the other hand, it favors rich candidate who can afford these American consultants. On balance, this openeness in politic is good export.

I made my comments over four years ago.

My opinion on the matter has changed since then and I have posted it in the other thread.

Jakeev
Apr 15th, 2006, 10:49 AM
I don't think it's overwhelming, for some reason it's overwhelmingly embraced by the rest of the world - well UK teenagers anyway.

You should see it in Brazil. Or in Rio anyway. European and American culture have really infiltrated the city, especially McDonalds.

Veritas
Apr 15th, 2006, 11:07 AM
American culture's definitely overwhelming - at least in Australia anyway. Not just in films and music, but in pop culture and products in general. Things like bubble gum, skyscrapers, suburban lifestyle and multiculturalism have their roots in America.

America :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

TeaMMashA
Apr 15th, 2006, 11:09 AM
I think America is a great place alot more to do there then in Europe this is because it is a relativly new country so its alot more modern

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2006, 12:06 PM
rather have an Indian than a Burger :lol:
much nicer :lick:


there's about 10 times as many Indian food outlets here than a BK or a Big Mc.

flyingmachine
Apr 15th, 2006, 01:14 PM
rather have an Indian than a Burger :lol:
much nicer :lick:


there's about 10 times as many Indian food outlets here than a BK or a Big Mc.
I know not to mention all these Chinese take aways. :lick: :o Anyway there is good and bad side on that I think it depends a lot on who you are. I love the music but the politics are just :scared:.