View Full Version : If you dont like the tennis your seeing in 2002 here is some advice

TexasTech Guy
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:22 PM
quit watching. You complaining isnt going to bring the Hingis era back. Its over!

Watch some other sport. Curling,ping pong, but your complaining on this board solves nothing.

All things evolve including sports.Golf used to be a mediocre sport with hardly any strong power then Tiger Woods came along, Basketball used to be a sport where a dunk wasnt even conceived then there Dr J. The list goes on and on where sports have evolved into something better. Now its time for tennis so get over your pitty and move on.

Venus,Serena,Capriatti,Davenport. Will be the top 4 players for years to come.

Jun 8th, 2002, 05:30 PM
I agree that the game needs to evolve to keep up with modern times...however not all change is for the better. I'm not saying anything specific, nor am I talking about anyone specifically. I'll reserve that for a time when we can look back on this era and make a clear headed - level minded - UNBIASED decision.

TexasTech Guy
Jun 8th, 2002, 05:35 PM
I am not biased at all. I admitted when Hingis was the best and I can admit when Venus is the best. Some people cant seem to do that.

I think people are just afraid that Venus and Serena are going to take over tennis for good but its not the case. I think Capriatti can be a threat the rest of the year, and when Lindsay gets back she will be a threat as well.

Jun 8th, 2002, 05:36 PM
I agree, and let me clarify - the unbiased part was NOT for you directly, so please don't think that. :)

Jun 8th, 2002, 06:58 PM
I think hingis can still be a factor as well as henin, Clijster ,and Mauresmo.Seles and Dokic and Kournikova and Hantuchova because a lot of them are naturally more talented than others

Jun 8th, 2002, 07:06 PM
I don't think it will be those 4 for the next years to come.

There are still a lot of good other players who can be dangerous, and many new juniors who will make their entry.

And I don't mind watching Lindsey-Venus, Jennifer-Serena,...

It's only some players I don't like to watch playing against each other (Serena, Dokic, Dementieva, Venus, Lucic,...)cos it does not produce the tennis I like to watch and the quality is most of the time below what you could expect. And this is only when these players play against EACH OTHER. There styles of play have a negative effect on someone else with the same kind of tennis.

Jun 8th, 2002, 07:12 PM
TexasTech, the thing is that most people who enjoy power tennis only do so because they like the personalities of the people behind it (Venus/Serena/Capriati). The power players may be dominating Hingis/etc, but that does not mean their style of play is more fun to watch. I don't know about you, but I don't want to watch a tennis match that contains over 100 UEs and only about 20 winners (today's FO final). That is simply sloppy power tennis. Personally, I prefer a happy medium. Players like Henin have one incredibly powerful shot (eg, backhand) but only employ it at key points in a rally. All too often, it seems, players like Venus/Serena/Capriati just hit everything at 100% power and just hope for the best, which makes their tennis appear mindless and far too error prone.

TexasTech Guy
Jun 8th, 2002, 07:17 PM
Todays match was an exception. I wish they produced better tennis, but it tough to play a sibling. When i play my best friend in tournaments everything is diffrent. Its all mental. Thats why their were so many errors.

My favortie type of matches so far are Hingis vs. Venus talk about varitey. Beautiful stuff.

Jun 8th, 2002, 07:24 PM
TTG, I completely agree :)

Jun 8th, 2002, 07:29 PM
I agree TTG. I also like Lindsay v. Serena matchup.

Jun 8th, 2002, 07:34 PM
I don't see why ppl find it soooooooooo hard to play their siblings the Maleeva sisters did it alot and they seemed to have no problem about it.

TexasTech Guy
Jun 8th, 2002, 07:47 PM
selesfan look how close they are. I mean they do everything together they live together they have the same friends they are inseperable. Did you watch the MTV diary of Serena. It should have been named the MTV diary of Serena and Venus thats how close they are. Only one year apart.

I could play my brother with ease just because we are two years apart and dont hang out with each other. If it were my best friend it would be a diffrent story. I would have my problems

Jun 8th, 2002, 09:05 PM
I don't like watching two enormous players hit the ball as hard as they can into the net, long, or by their opponent. If you've ever seen a fun "cat and mouse" match, or a match where creativity and shot selection takes over, it is infinitely more fun to watch than even the BEST power player matches, and no one can deny that. It's why I wish there were more players like Hingis. Imagine a Hingis vs. Hingis match. :eek:

Obviously I recognize that power wins it all, but it just is not as interesting.

Jun 8th, 2002, 09:10 PM
Imagine a Hingis vs. Hingis match

It would be boring as hell :rolleyes:

Jun 8th, 2002, 09:16 PM
How so? It would be great! So many winners, so few UEs, such creative play.

Jun 8th, 2002, 09:53 PM
Nope rock
it would be kind of Sanchez vicario and Conchita Martinez

Jun 8th, 2002, 09:57 PM
I think Hingis/Hingis would be very interesting,...but only 1 of the Hingis' would be allowed to serve underhanded! :)


Jun 8th, 2002, 10:00 PM
Seles1, in fact, the Maleeva sisters hated playing each other. And the only time a younger sister beat an older sister was when an injured Manuela retired against Katerina (I think at the Canadian Open one year). I felt today really for the first time how difficult it must be for Venus-Serena to play each other. Although disappointed, I understand why they don't produce their best tennis against each other.

As for the topic of the post, I've said several times that I think the quality of play from the women this year has been abysmal. But I'm hardly going to quit watching because I enjoy the sport far more than I enjoy the players. I reserve the right to complain about poor quality matches, however. That's what a discussion forum is all about, expressing your opinion.

Jun 8th, 2002, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Playa
Nope rock
it would be kind of Sanchez vicario and Conchita Martinez

that's not necessarily bad either. it depends on how well they play, not just the styles of play. arantxa versus conchita can be extremely interesting to see who will take the extra risks, knowing that their opponent is not going to give them anything.

i think people put arantxa and conchita together too much. conchita really has a better, more creative game than arantxa, and if it wasn't for her serve these days, would be doing better. still has a hefty forehand and a sneaky sliced backhand.

but i take your point that contrasting styles makes for interesting match-ups.

venus and serena play 'go for broke' tennis. there'll be spectacular winners and some awful looking errors. it's almost inevitable, but for me the winners and sheer guts outweighs the errors. with an ASV-Martinez match, there'll be few winners and lots of unforced errors, but you can also watch how they try more subtlely to pick the other's game apart. takes longer, but can be just as satisfying.

i thought today's match was enthralling, power hitting and truly competitive. well done! :)

Jun 8th, 2002, 11:16 PM
I for one don't enjoy Hingis style of play, you hardly ever see a shot from her that makes you gasp, because she's not a risk taker. She's more of a counter puncher now days, the best I saw her play was this year Australian Open, there she was taking risks and produced some great shots, but she only played that style for a set and a half then she was back to being a counter puncher (just satisfy to get the ball over the net and hoping her apponent will make a mistake).

Serena y Monica
Jun 9th, 2002, 01:52 AM
I think it's simply a matter of taste.

I like the aggresiveness of the power players. That take charge bring it on or get out of the way attitude is wonderful. It mirrors my attitude. I also like variety, which my girl showed quite a bit of, I must say. I think alot of what you like to watch just depends on your own personality.

Patty and Iva were fun to watch for about a 1/2 a set...then it was pretty much like watching paint dry.

They had just as many errors as the power babes, so they are not more talented or better just scared. To me Patty and Martina's (Martina more than Patty) style of play is about not having the confidence or the ability to step up and take what you want. Why hit 20 shots hoping their opponent will miss one, instead of hitting to win?

So I quess I like the efficiency, the lack of fear, the ability to meet your own needs of the power game, as opposed to the " Please sir another crust of bread" dance around the issue, passive aggresiveness of the finesse game.

Rocktotallyunsteady, size has nothing to do with power...look at Justine and Hantuchova (just to name two) it's more about personality and how one goes about getting what they want.

Jun 9th, 2002, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by TexasTech Guy
quit watching. You complaining isnt going to bring the Hingis era back. Its over!

Here Here!!!