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paul_masterton
Jun 7th, 2002, 05:13 PM
Why? Cause its reaing so hard she has only played 1 match on grass all week.

Today in the QF she was almost beaten bt Julie Pullin, scraping through 64 76(5).

Pullin, ranked 148 compared to Alex's 29 would undoubtably have won if the match had been played in grass. The match, however was played on indoor hard courts, which meant that Alex could use her big serve to her advantage.

The question is: if Alex can barely beat a brit indoors, how the hell she she be taken seriously on the grass court season when it is clear she would have been played off the court?

Paul

*edited to fix spelling errors on order from eggy ;)*

Larrybid
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:23 PM
Logic check: A big serve is more valuable on GRASS than even on a indoor court, becasue the ball tends stay low once it hits in the service box. Incidentally, that is why the movement challenged Stevenson had her best GS result on grass.

Look, Stenvenson entered the tourney to get some matches on grass while the French was going on. Stevenson is as capable of winnig a big match as she is losing poorly. What she does at this challenger tournament won't change that. She's doing it for the practice , any player who makes the mistake of taking too much from this does so at their own peril.

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:26 PM
She lost in the semis to Laura Granville 7-6(5)3-6 6-3

Alex played one match on the grass,

Cam'ron Giles
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:28 PM
Give it up Larrybid...they aint gon stop...dont you see the pattern...they only post negative things about one race of players...we just have to live with it...

Larrybid
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:46 PM
Freethinker, it is more than curious why anybody would care enough about a player ranked #29 in the world and trying to get some extra matches in, to question her strategy. There's at least 3 threads with this theme.

CB
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:50 PM
pff the thread was closed unfortunately

Freethinker had no more arguements and turned all the deal on a personal row by creating the other thread, tsc tsc. ;)

I pardon you anyway :rolleyes:

Cam'ron Giles
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by CB
pff the thread was closed unfortunately

Freethinker had no more arguements and turned all the deal on a personal row by creating the other thread, tsc tsc. ;)

I pardon you anyway :rolleyes:

No thanks...:o

Becool
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:54 PM
Why all this hate on Stevenson?

Leave her alone...

Her loss to Granville will make her work more and she will definitely be better on this grass season.

:rolleyes: @ Paul...

Randy H
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:55 PM
Larrybid,

People care about the players who actually need this tournament for money and points, *not* a few practice matches. The issue with the #29 ranked player is that she should not be here to begin with because it is not the purpose of 25k challengers.

Freethinker,

I'd really like to see you find all these hateful threads made by Paul and TBE spewing out racism, because I sincerely doubt you will find any. If you want to use racism to defend why someone would disagree with Alexandra's decision, then at least find some evidence to back up your accusation. :)

Kind of ironic really that she only got in 1 grass match anyway, so her purpose of being here really does seem a waste of time. On top of that, she ended up losing in the semifinals anyway, so on the bright side at least Laura Granville benefits. Hope Alexandra takes a more logical route for grass court matches next year :)

CB
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:56 PM
On a 25,000 challenger, let's keep in mnd.

The Crow
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:56 PM
Freethinker, if you can't deal with people questioning the number 28 in the world entering a challenger, maybe you should just stay in cheering threads??

And btw paul's post was very friendly stated. If you don't agree maybe you could give argumentations instead of implying he's a racist.....

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:58 PM
I didn't make any threads, i just replied to what i think was right and not right.

I don't think any top players should be playing in $25K events

CB
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:59 PM
Now the deal is racism???? :eek:

Maybe freethinker is mixing up stuff a little bit.

Cam'ron Giles
Jun 7th, 2002, 08:03 PM
All due respect to TBE...You are in fact fair and continue to stay above the fray, please understand that I was not implying anything on your part... the rest of you...:p

paul_masterton
Jun 7th, 2002, 08:07 PM
Please find this cooment where i am a racist.

I liek Alex, is one fo my top 15 favs, but she shoudlnt be here.

Im happy she lost, i hope she is happy with her £300 - i hope it was worth it.

And well deon julie Pullin, if it wasnt for you Alex would still be here. I hope this sends out a message ot all top players that they cant breeze through challengers.

And anyway, if a player rabked #29 cant win a 25k challneger should seh really be playing tennis? :p

Paul

Steveg
Jun 7th, 2002, 08:12 PM
This shows at least that Challenger events are very tough ones. The loss of Wynne Prakusya also proves it :) .

All the players on the Challenger tour are extremely hungry for victories. This is a good thing to see.

paul_masterton
Jun 7th, 2002, 08:16 PM
Yes i think the point about Wynne losing to Ahl is also relevant in teh fact Ahl is British :p

But to whoever said Alex's serve woudl help her more on grass against Pullin - NO!

The reason is Alex's serve bounces VERY high anyway, on indoors this makes is near impossible to return with any pace or accuracy. A grass ocurt specialist as Pullin is, wil bea ble to judge almost exactly how the ball is likely to slide, and of course will not bounce as high.

She stated it herself in an interview if you wish to read i will give link. Who is gonna know moer? You or Julie?

You ahve one guess

Paul

Steveg
Jun 7th, 2002, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by paul_masterton
Yes i think the point about Wynne losing to Ahl is also relevant in teh fact Ahl is British :p

Certainly but not only ;) .

1) it was the first Challenger for Wynne Prakusya this season (her previous Challenger had been in Fukuoka in May 2001)

2) she had so far not lost this season to any player outside the top 100 (except for one loss at Charleston against Vakulenko - ranked 125 at that time - in Q2).

paul_masterton
Jun 7th, 2002, 08:29 PM
Therefore - Lucie is the REAL world #1

:p

What do u mean my logic is flawed?!

Paul ;)

Steveg
Jun 7th, 2002, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by paul_masterton
Therefore - Lucie is the REAL world #1


If she had won 60 60 in 37 minutes with two splits from Wynne Prakusya, Lucie could have claimed the #1 spot :p .

paul_masterton
Jun 7th, 2002, 08:35 PM
63 63 = 60 60 + 6 games

1 hour 10 = 37 minutes plus erm... some minutes

Therefore seh is #1

;)

Paul

Larrybid
Jun 8th, 2002, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Randy H
Larrybid,

People care about the players who actually need this tournament for money and points, *not* a few practice matches. The issue with the #29 ranked player is that she should not be here to begin with because it is not the purpose of 25k challengers.



With all do respect Randy, since when and with what authority do you decide what the sole purpose of challenge tournaments are? Tour players play Challenger tounaments for practice all the time, when the mood strikes. If the tounaments didn't want them to be used in that way they would simply ban them. I expect that they love having them.

The fact is every time Stevensen enters a tournament, some lower ranked player gets bumped out of a chance to make some money. That's why they have a ranking system. What makes the girl who got bumped from this tounement so special? Stevnensen EARNED her ranking, and with it the right to enter any tounament she wishes for any reason (I heard thet Seles enters an obscure touney in Japan becasue she like a suishi resturant near the hotel). THAT"S THE SYSTEM, and its fair. Stevensen should not feel the least bit sorry about taking a spot in a challenger becasue she earned the right to be there. I think you are being more than a bit ridiculous for claiming otherwise.

Tell your friend there are other tounaments, and with some luck and some wins she may be bumping some other girls climbing up the WTA ladder in no time.

Monica_Rules
Jun 8th, 2002, 10:59 AM
It was rather unfortuneate that this had to be played indoors! But hey thats life.

V.Melb
Jun 8th, 2002, 11:02 AM
I think the likes of Pullin still deserve credit. They aren't really strong players throughout the year, But put the likes of Pullin and Ahl on grass and its a different story all together.

Jakeev
Jun 8th, 2002, 01:28 PM
Having an opinion is one thing Paul but being obsessive about something is an entirely different subject.

I hope know you can be relieved and move the heck on for crying out loud.

Alex, you go on with you bad self and don't listen to you detractors.