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MisterMan
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:17 PM
Can't this woman EVER shut up ?
Does she just sit at home and think of things to complain about ?
Adious Nav. You'll never get a send off like Pete or Andre if you keep acting like a *&^$(.

From the ESPN/Tennis site.

NEW YORK -- Martina Navratilova criticized the tennis establishment on Saturday for not having enough regulations to deal with the size and strings of rackets.

"It takes less skill to hit great shots or to hit powerful shots because you just bang away," Navratilova told a news conference at the U.S. Open. "Tennis used to be more like squash -- now it's more like racquetball.

"Hit the ball as hard as you can, it will still go in."

The 49-year-old Navratilova, who won 18 Grand Slam singles titles during her illustrious career, is playing women's and mixed doubles at the Open in her final tournament.

She said the new rackets are too powerful for the game and have essentially eliminated the need to volley, changing the way both singles and doubles are played.

Mr_Molik
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:20 PM
:lol: i dont think she was ever as popular as those two anyway, but she really isnt doing herself any favours..

Craigy
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:22 PM
Oh shut up Martina. Just because you are old and can't hit it hard anymore :ras: Tennis is different from 20 years ago :lol:

ASerenusFan
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:23 PM
don't be mean to old people

faboozadoo15
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:25 PM
she's quite brazen. she openly referred to herself as the greatest volleyer of all time in the espn.com article i read.

i mean, it's probably true, but who says that?

Craigy
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:26 PM
don't be mean to old people
Well she's mean to practically everyone....

SelesFan70
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:27 PM
Well, I don't see Martina NOT playing with any of the rackets she's criticizing... :tape:

MisterMan
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:27 PM
I bet she wasn't complaining about the power when her biotch Svetlana was hitting harder than any other woman when she won the Open.
Bet she loved the game then !

delicatecutter
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:28 PM
I think Martina rocks! Her perspective and insight are to die for. I loved it when she did commentating occasionally and I really hope she looks into doing it full-time next year. She's probably my favorite commentator. She totally predicted Hantuchova would get to the QF of Wimbledon a whole year before it happened! :worship:

!Gio!
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:56 PM
Can't this woman EVER shut up ?
Does she just sit at home and think of things to complain about ?
Adious Nav. You'll never get a send off like Pete or Andre if you keep acting like a *&^$(.

From the ESPN/Tennis site.

NEW YORK -- Martina Navratilova criticized the tennis establishment on Saturday for not having enough regulations to deal with the size and strings of rackets.

"It takes less skill to hit great shots or to hit powerful shots because you just bang away," Navratilova told a news conference at the U.S. Open. "Tennis used to be more like squash -- now it's more like racquetball.

"Hit the ball as hard as you can, it will still go in."

The 49-year-old Navratilova, who won 18 Grand Slam singles titles during her illustrious career, is playing women's and mixed doubles at the Open in her final tournament.

She said the new rackets are too powerful for the game and have essentially eliminated the need to volley, changing the way both singles and doubles are played.


Hey they better not be shooting old horses or I will call animal rights on their ass :mad:

*JR*
Sep 3rd, 2006, 12:11 AM
Navratilova:
"Hit the ball as hard as you can, it will still go in."

Lefty, tell that to K-lina and Sania! :devil:

RVD
Sep 3rd, 2006, 12:15 AM
Can't this woman EVER shut up ?
Does she just sit at home and think of things to complain about ?
Adious Nav. You'll never get a send off like Pete or Andre if you keep acting like a *&^$(.

From the ESPN/Tennis site.

NEW YORK -- Martina Navratilova criticized the tennis establishment on Saturday for not having enough regulations to deal with the size and strings of rackets.

"It takes less skill to hit great shots or to hit powerful shots because you just bang away," Navratilova told a news conference at the U.S. Open. "Tennis used to be more like squash -- now it's more like racquetball.

"Hit the ball as hard as you can, it will still go in."

The 49-year-old Navratilova, who won 18 Grand Slam singles titles during her illustrious career, is playing women's and mixed doubles at the Open in her final tournament.

She said the new rackets are too powerful for the game and have essentially eliminated the need to volley, changing the way both singles and doubles are played.I think I stated the same thing nearly 2 years ago! :lol:
But man, the Mummy just keeps coming back. :tape:
Sure she was a great GREAT player in her day, but now she's just tarnishing her rep by bitching about everyone, everything, and every technique people use to win. :rolleyes:

Maybe some holy water in her tea would help. :shrug: :lol:

pav
Sep 3rd, 2006, 02:01 AM
I had to shoot this poor old bugger a while back, have to do it quite often so just give me a ring.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/kahu/oldgirl.jpg

AlwaysGraf
Sep 3rd, 2006, 02:53 AM
I think i'm gonna be sick

SelesFan70
Sep 3rd, 2006, 02:58 AM
I had to shoot this poor old bugger a while back, have to do it quite often so just give me a ring.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/kahu/oldgirl.jpg

I smell glue!

Reuchlin
Sep 3rd, 2006, 03:13 AM
I think Martina is wrong: Players like Federer, Amelie, and Justine are showing that tennis has evolved to include some serving and volleying and variety-- they are doing this even with the most powerful raquets.

Volcana
Sep 3rd, 2006, 03:18 AM
Can't this woman EVER shut up ?Why should she? She's right.
NEW YORK -- Martina Navratilova criticized the tennis establishment on Saturday for not having enough regulations to deal with the size and strings of rackets.

"It takes less skill to hit great shots or to hit powerful shots because you just bang away," Navratilova told a news conference at the U.S. Open. "Tennis used to be more like squash -- now it's more like racquetball.

"Hit the ball as hard as you can, it will still go in."

The 49-year-old Navratilova, who won 18 Grand Slam singles titles during her illustrious career, is playing women's and mixed doubles at the Open in her final tournament.

She said the new rackets are too powerful for the game and have essentially eliminated the need to volley, changing the way both singles and doubles are played.This isn't the first time the ITF has had to regulate racket technology. The term 'spaghetti stringing' (http://www.whatsalltheracquet.com/archives/001984.php) probably means nothing to most of you. But back in 1978, the ITF actually changed the rules about how rackets could be string, because somebody figured out how to make a racket generate about the twice the spin by changing how it was strung.

In fact, if you recall the hoopla about Nadal breaking the men's record (held for years by Guillermo Vilas) for consecutive clay court wins, what went unmentioned is that Vilas' streak was broken by Ilie Nastase using a racket with spaghetti stringing.

The racket technology has, in fact, altered the game radically. And the rules have been changed before to keep the game from changing too radically. From the kind of ball used, to what's a legal racket, to the fact that the defending Wimbledon champ used to only have to play the final.

Can someone tell me why people who don't know one percent as much about tennis as Navratilova complain about her speaking up? We'd all be better off if you listened to her. She knows a hell of a lot more about tennis than you.

Volcana
Sep 3rd, 2006, 03:30 AM
I think Martina is wrong: Players like Federer, Amelie, and Justine are showing that tennis has evolved to include some serving and volleying and variety-- they are doing this even with the most powerful raquets.Federer is a genetic freak.

And Henin-Hardenne and Mauresmo aren't serve-and-volley players. They might use serve-and-volley ten times in a match. Stefan Edberg, it was classically observed, played serve-and-volley on second serves on clay. THAT is serve-and-volley. It's predicated on the idea that being at the net is always an advantage.

And he won his slams between 1985 and 1992, long after composite rackets had been invented. The women's tour, at least it's upper echelons, is completely populated by baseliners. No one plays serve-and-volley on even a majority of their first serves, much less all of them.

And forget second serves.

Yet, this was how tennis was classically taught until one Christine Marie Evert came along. Baseline play was for those who weren't good enough athletes to play serve-and-volley.

LDVTennis
Sep 3rd, 2006, 05:51 AM
Yet, this was how tennis was classically taught until one Christine Marie Evert came along. Baseline play was for those who weren't good enough athletes to play serve-and-volley.

You sure about this?

Truth be told, women's tennis has seen very few true athletes, the kind one could imagine excelling in other sports, not just tennis.

Look at old footage of BJK and Martina, they are nothing more than short girls with thick muscles/thick bodies. Compared to that, Chris Evert was good enough of an athlete.

If Martina and BJK before her did not end up becoming baseliners, it is not because they were such better athletes. They didn't remain at the baseline because they couldn't. Their groundstrokes weren't consistent enough. They did not have the power or precision from the baseline to win points from the baseline alone. So, they rushed the net, where the chances of their winning a point were greater and the chances of their making an error were less.

On the other hand, Chris could remain at the baseline because she had developed techniques on both the forehand and backhand that allowed her to use a wooden racquet to generate more power and more precision than anyone else ever had. Consequently, Chris' game didn't require her to end a point that quickly. She could toy with you from the baseline without much risk of an error. She could play the position game and open up the court for a winner.

As to what is classical or not, it is not accurate to say that serve and volley tennis is more classical or traditional than baseline tennis. Maureen Connolly who predated BJK was essentially a baseliner. To be sure, she could finish off a point at the net, but she was by no means a serve and volley player. And, what about Margaret Court? What was she? Great athlete and all, not just a short girl with thick muscles, you'd have her up there at the net with Martina and BJK. But, she was actually one of the few all court players the women's game has ever seen, as equally comfortable from the baseline as from the net.

Pureracket
Sep 3rd, 2006, 05:56 AM
You sure about this?

Truth be told, women's tennis has seen very few true athletes, the kind one could imagine excelling in other sports, not just tennis.

Does the general public believe this? Who could you be referring to other than Steffi?