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madnazz
Sep 1st, 2006, 09:46 PM
I love how everyone thinks momo is'nt gonna make the finals--I guess will have to wait and see

Rocky5
Sep 1st, 2006, 09:50 PM
Its on Maria's racket cos she's the one hitting all the winners and errors when they play.

leviathane
Sep 1st, 2006, 09:53 PM
You know the stats ? definitly NO

!<blocparty>!
Sep 1st, 2006, 09:53 PM
On a hardcourt? Absolutely. Maria will need to be crushing everything. ;)

GrandSlam05
Sep 1st, 2006, 09:55 PM
Of course. It's not as if all of Mauresmo's wins over Maria were 6-2 6-2 beatdowns.

Shenanigans
Sep 1st, 2006, 09:59 PM
Its on Maria's racket cos she's the one hitting all the winners and errors when they play.

Alot of the errors Maria makes when she plays Momo is due to her not being able to deal with the variety in Momo's game. Look at their Wimbledon semi Maria was brought into the net alot cause Momo knew how weak she is there.

leviathane
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:02 PM
Alot of the errors Maria makes when she plays Momo is due to her not being able to deal with the variety in Momo's game. Look at their Wimbledon semi Maria was brought into the net alot cause Momo knew how weak she is there.

you're right :worship:

Rocky5
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:03 PM
Alot of the errors Maria makes when she plays Momo is due to her not being able to deal with the variety in Momo's game. Look at their Wimbledon semi Maria was brought into the net alot cause Momo knew how weak she is there.

Mauresmo hits very few winners though, Maria will learn not to make unforced errors, its ok if its forced but she needs to be more patient.

Shenanigans
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:11 PM
Mauresmo hits very few winners though, Maria will learn not to make unforced errors, its ok if its forced but she needs to be more patient.

It is very difficult not to hit UE's against players like Momo cause she moves so well often players feel they have to go for more so she can't get to the ball.

The_Pov
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:20 PM
It is very difficult not to hit UE's against players like Momo cause she moves so well often players feel they have to go for more so she can't get to the ball.

Maria gets to impatient and Momo can usually get to most of Maria's balls so Masha feels she should go for winners too early.

franny
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:24 PM
We'll see. I think that as of now, she will. She's playing better. At Wimbledon, Mauresmo was too good. She played great grass court tennis. Her serving and volleying really got to Maria. Her tactics of drawing Maria into the net won't work here. THe ball does not stay as low nor does it spin as much. If Mauresmo just blocks the return back, or if she tries to bring Maria to net, she'll be facing a very very powerful approach shot from Maria. And I don't think Maria is stupid. She'll work on her volleys a lot before the match. Yes, Maria can beat an in-form Mauresmo. The match is more on her hands than on Mauresmo's hands.

LH2HBH
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:24 PM
Maria will need to be patient with all those slices, really bend her knees and get under the ball.

Mauresmo is just going to slice everything back and try to swing her off the court. Of course, Maria will try to overpower her.

Really, Maria should be hoping she gets upset before they have to meet.

Wayn77
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:25 PM
It will be close but Sharapova is the favourite on a hard-court. There is no doubt Mauresmo has the greater variety, superior shot-making and better movement, but this match will be decided in the heads of the two girls. Maria must keep the ball deep and flat, the points short and disrupt any Mauresmo rhythm with an onslaught of blistering winners. Amelie will try to mix up the tactics and the pace, try to move Sharapova around into error-strewn trades (as she did at Wimbers).

MinnyGophers
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:27 PM
Mauresmo hits very few winners though, Maria will learn not to make unforced errors, its ok if its forced but she needs to be more patient.

That's because Mauresmo doesn't have to against Maria. She can just play defensively, hit back some nice low spinning shot, and let Maria do the rest... :devil:

faboozadoo15
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:28 PM
i really look forward to the possibility of this match. i think maria will win if that's the case. she's in better form than in wimbledon. her serve is better, and she's making fewer errors.

IceHock
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:30 PM
Hmmm...Against an in form Mauresmo,Sharapova will not win,but Amelie said she had some minor injury so it might change things a little but I think Amelie gets too many balls back and she can handle Maria's serve because she bunts the ball back and is fast enough to chase down her shots so she will always have the edge against Maria.

SAEKeithSerena
Sep 1st, 2006, 10:59 PM
nope. sorry. on grass i think amelie could beat her and that's it.

Dasha_
Sep 1st, 2006, 11:10 PM
No, she can't. And we saw that 3 times so already. On grass, which is Sharapova's favourite surface, and two times on hard courts, as well. And that even wasn't Mauresmo in her very best form....

msharafan
Sep 1st, 2006, 11:19 PM
she can at wimbledon she said she had a brain freeze and just stopped thinking, she said shed learn form the mistake and i believe she will, if maria hits the winners ie when shes in top form im afraid shes toog ood for mauresmo but when shes not ie at wimby this year and she didnt hit the winners she lost. its all about maria really its up to her, i respect and saw that mauresmo had a brilliant game plan set up for her semi final and she executed it very well but maria will have learnt form this and actually even though marias favourite surface is grass so is amelies. on a hardcourt the spin wont be so low and so she her tasks of bringing maria to the net wont bring as many ue, so really if maria plays her absolute best she is too much for amelie cause all amelie is a very good plugger who has variety ocasionally comes to the net on grass and ocasionally hits a back hand winner. so really id have to say maria but its close. maria has to be in top form to beat her.

Pixelballs
Sep 1st, 2006, 11:36 PM
Sharapova could beat anyone. :bounce:

morningglory
Sep 1st, 2006, 11:59 PM
well she's turned the record against Kim so I say Amelie is up next...
Amelie isn't playing that well atm, so if they were to meet tomorrow Maria should cruise... still... you never know...

No Name Face
Sep 2nd, 2006, 12:17 AM
for brevity's sake, yes.

leviathane
Sep 2nd, 2006, 12:18 AM
well she's turned the record against Kim so I say Amelie is up next...
Amelie isn't playing that well atm, so if they were to meet tomorrow Maria should cruise... still... you never know...

yes may be but you know Mauresmo is injured ...

hablo
Sep 2nd, 2006, 12:21 AM
since when is momo invincible anyway ?

jrm
Sep 2nd, 2006, 01:39 AM
In form Mauresmo :scratch:

judging from first two rounds Sharpova should win this in 2 (even though i would prefer vice versa)

Volcana
Sep 2nd, 2006, 01:41 AM
No

MinnyGophers
Sep 2nd, 2006, 01:42 AM
since when is momo invincible anyway ?

Well duh, if she loses, it means she CHOKED. So yes, if she's "in form", she is invincible. ;)

MinnyGophers
Sep 2nd, 2006, 01:44 AM
she can at wimbledon she said she had a brain freeze and just stopped thinking, she said shed learn form the mistake and i believe she will, if maria hits the winners ie when shes in top form im afraid shes toog ood for mauresmo but when shes not ie at wimby this year and she didnt hit the winners she lost. its all about maria really its up to her, i respect and saw that mauresmo had a brilliant game plan set up for her semi final and she executed it very well but maria will have learnt form this and actually even though marias favourite surface is grass so is amelies. on a hardcourt the spin wont be so low and so she her tasks of bringing maria to the net wont bring as many ue, so really if maria plays her absolute best she is too much for amelie cause all amelie is a very good plugger who has variety ocasionally comes to the net on grass and ocasionally hits a back hand winner. so really id have to say maria but its close. maria has to be in top form to beat her.

Lol Maria "too good for Mauresmo".

Sorry, but she had three tries, and hasn't beaten her yet, on grass, hardcourts, and let's not even think about clay ...

This is not saying that she will never beat her, but Maria being too good for Mauresmo = Hilarity.

msharafan
Sep 2nd, 2006, 02:02 AM
no what i meant to say is when maria plays in her best form she can beat mauresmo because maria is always going to be the agresser its up to her. i shouldnt have phrased it like that. iv just been watching a highlight of the semis from last years us open with kim and maria, and when maria was playing well she was too good for anyone, she didnt win the match and really she was exhausted by the end of the match but maria has improved her fitness and if she can get in her absolute best form i really think she will be too much for mauresmo. but yet this has not happened yet, maria needs to play her absolute best consistently enough and she hasnt done that yet against mauresmo, but the more experience and match practice she gets the more i think maria will win. if maria and amelie meet in the semis i predict maria to win, especially just after seeing last years semi final.

Deck
Sep 2nd, 2006, 02:04 AM
well, it's quite simple, Mauresmo was in form in Melbourne and Wimbledon and nobody beat her, if she will be in form, the only one getting close to her is JHH in my opinion

but I'm not sure if Mauresmo is in such good shape at the moment, so I think Sharapova has definitely a chance

bellascarlett
Sep 2nd, 2006, 02:05 AM
Of course. She should have already imo.

MrSerenaWilliams
Sep 2nd, 2006, 02:10 AM
....sorry to ruin the party, but I don't think (barring an exhibition), these two are going to play at the US Open this year, but if it's just a general question, I'm not really sure Maria has enough variety to beat Ameile, but I'm not sure Amelie is strong enough to deal with Mash's ball bashing strokes. Honestly, it would essentially come down to who was moving better on that given day. Especially on a neutral surface like HC. On clay, (except @ RG) Amelie should win in a romp, and actually on grass, Amelie seems more apt to win, because she is willing to come in and end points earlier. But on HC, I see a tight one with either of them winning closely in the 3rd, but on current form, I would say Mash.

Hugo24
Sep 2nd, 2006, 08:13 AM
I think Amelie can beat her , Amelie is the stronger player, Maria is a good player . It might come down to a mind game between them Mauresmo has the upper hand if they play each other (Wimbeldon) she found her weak spot in the semi. But both player are great .

Rachel_
Sep 2nd, 2006, 08:41 AM
I have a feeling the winner of serena - ana will take momo out so this encounter will not occur but if it does on hardcourts i expect Masha to win on any other surface though Momo owns her.

améliemomo
Sep 2nd, 2006, 09:21 AM
she tried 3 times to beat her and she didnt succeed,she doesnt know how to deal with her variety.If amélie is in form she cant beat her but if she is not she has her chance;

Kim's_fan_4ever
Sep 2nd, 2006, 09:33 AM
I guess you don't rememver Wimbledon SF...
But here in NY it won't happen.

msharafan
Sep 2nd, 2006, 10:19 AM
maria didnt play her best in wimby all amelie did was bloack marias returns and maria made the error if maria is on she would cope with the variety and hit the winner so yes.

MinnyGophers
Sep 2nd, 2006, 10:02 PM
maria didnt play her best in wimby all amelie did was bloack marias returns and maria made the error if maria is on she would cope with the variety and hit the winner so yes.

If both players are on, Amelie will still beat her.

The only way Maria could beat her right now, would be for Amelie to not be in form ( she's currently injured).

Maria still has time to improve over the next few years. Let's not forget that Amelie is a veteran who has been dealing with players like Maria for like almost a decade....

souam
Sep 2nd, 2006, 10:32 PM
Of course. I don't think Maria could beat an in-form JHH for example but she could beat an in-form Amélie because of Amélie's mental who's not the same as Justine's if you know what i mean...

But i don't think Amé's in good shape now.

Hugo24
Sep 2nd, 2006, 10:38 PM
Of course. I don't think Maria could beat an in-form JHH for example but she could beat an in-form Amélie because of Amélie's mental who's not the same as Justine's if you know what i mean...

But i don't think Amé's in good shape now.

Amelie is not going to crack under pressure if she plays maria . :rolleyes: .she may not be 100% fit but so far she is okay to play. If they play Maria might want to change her game she is not going to be able to win 6-0 with Amelie.

franny
Sep 2nd, 2006, 11:21 PM
she tried 3 times to beat her and she didnt succeed,she doesnt know how to deal with her variety.If amélie is in form she cant beat her but if she is not she has her chance;

I don't understand that explaination. Maria tried four times to beat Kim and couldn't win, but she did it this summer. She also tried 3 times to beat Myskina and failed. But on the fourth try she won. Let me tell you something, head to heads tell a lot, but you can't just assume that one person is going to continuously lose to another. Mauresmo beat Davenport the first two times they played. Then Davenport turned it around and look at their head to head now. What's to stop Maria from turning it around? People here underestimate her. It's not like Mauresmo has dominated Sharapova, at least not any more than Kim has. It was a tight three set match at Wimbledon and tight matches at the YEC.

Marshmallow
Sep 3rd, 2006, 12:53 AM
I don't understand that explaination. Maria tried four times to beat Kim and couldn't win, but she did it this summer. She also tried 3 times to beat Myskina and failed. But on the fourth try she won. Let me tell you something, head to heads tell a lot, but you can't just assume that one person is going to continuously lose to another. Mauresmo beat Davenport the first two times they played. Then Davenport turned it around and look at their head to head now. What's to stop Maria from turning it around? People here underestimate her. It's not like Mauresmo has dominated Sharapova, at least not any more than Kim has. It was a tight three set match at Wimbledon and tight matches at the YEC.

That entire tournament, Kim was complaining about having to take painkillers or some kind of injections due to tiredness. Kim obviously felt she wasn't in FORM. Myskina has dropped her form since 2004, and the first time she lost to Maria, TANKED!!!!! So i don't really class these matches as Maria TURNING things around... and this question is on the premise that Maria's opponent is IN FORM.

Maria couldn't beat Amelie on her favourite surface. The set she took off Amelie came courtesy of some nervous play from Amelie. Just too proud to admit it.

Amelie quite simply has too much game, for Maria. Amelie can vary her spins as well as the height of her balls, is quick enough to retrieve Maria's shots hence forcing her into errors. And in form Amelie is no Match for Maria. the 3-0 record, and loss of only one set is proof.

Marshmallow
Sep 3rd, 2006, 12:59 AM
maria didnt play her best in wimby all amelie did was bloack marias returns and maria made the error if maria is on she would cope with the variety and hit the winner so yes.

:spit:

Amelie's blocks, usually brought Maria to the net, where she is HOPELESS!!! CRAP!!! Picture Maria running to the net, to handle a low ball ... she looks like an ostrich on crack. Atrocious. So long as her volleys remain poor - and so long as Amelie doesn't have a nervous breakdown - i can't see Maria winning. The fact that she isn't being tested at the USO till the Semi's is not good for her either. She'll have no real oppourtunity to practice these shots, or play in these conditions under pressure situations - where as Amelie, justine, Serena, Ana, and some others have had to.

Sha_ra_po_va
Sep 3rd, 2006, 12:59 AM
Is the Pope Catholic?

Marshmallow
Sep 3rd, 2006, 01:01 AM
Of course. She should have already imo.

Doesn't the fact that Maria has not been able to defeat mentally fragile Amelie, mean something. All times they have layed, Amelie has been mentally vulnerable, and has at times cracked.. yet Maria unable to take advantage.

Maybe Amelie just has too much game. She doesn't feed maria the kind of balls she likes.

Natalicious
Sep 3rd, 2006, 01:15 AM
she could never beat amèlie when she is in form

hablo
Sep 3rd, 2006, 01:25 AM
Mauresmo isn't invincible momosapiens (even an inform one) and as soon as sharpie beats her, expect this thread to be bumped back up onto the main page :spit:

Shenanigans
Sep 3rd, 2006, 01:36 AM
Mauresmo isn't invincible momosapiens (even an inform one) and as soon as sharpie beats her, expect this thread to be bumped back up onto the main page :spit:

No one is saying she is invincible and I am sure Maria will beat Momo, but most of your posts these days seem to be negative towards her rather than positive. Who cares if she has to retire tommorow she has won 2 slams most posters on this board did not even think she had the chance of winning one last year. Respect where respect is due.

hablo
Sep 3rd, 2006, 01:50 AM
I guess most of my posts have been negative in regards to momo, as of late.
but i see nothing to be positive about when she keeps talking about these injuries she's been struggling with herself.
i give momo her respect (i'm especially proud of her wimby victory :drool: ) but she's still the sensible, prone to be fragile momo to me, i don't mind that or i wouldn't be a fan of hers.

MinnyGophers
Sep 3rd, 2006, 02:04 AM
Mauresmo isn't invincible momosapiens (even an inform one) and as soon as sharpie beats her, expect this thread to be bumped back up onto the main page :spit:

Lol true, don't forget Karma people....

I wouldnt be surprised if she loses ( if they even meet), and then we'll see the flock of Maria fans saying "I told you so", even though Amelie is currently injured....

PatrickRyan
Sep 3rd, 2006, 02:05 AM
no