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samsung101
Aug 24th, 2006, 06:20 PM
The SLC Mayor is on his way out, so I guess he figures
why not go out with a bang. Invite Code Pink and Cindy
Sheehan to SLC to protest Bush visit. He's a Democrat.

See, Utah does have diversity.
Can't say it is 100% Republican.
Never has been.
It has a largely independent streak,
and a lot of anti-govt. sentiment that
runs more anti-any party.

Many are angry he is doing this. It's not a popular
move among the Utes.


Not only because their family members are in the
service, but, because Utah has a lot of federal
govt. contracts and ties, and military personnel
and bases.

He ran as a conservative Democrat (it is Utah afterall),
but, hasn't run his office that way. Needless to say,
his replacement likely be the Republican he is also
endorsing, and who is running away from most of
this guys record. But, hey, it's fun stuff.

Won't do much to deter a popular reception for Bush
in Utah overall though.

A booming state with a population boom from inside
and out, housing and job expansion all over the state.

Great housing prices even now.

SelesFan70
Aug 24th, 2006, 06:23 PM
How much weight has Cindy Sheehan lost on her "rolling fast" to end the war? If I were her, for my turn I'd fast while in Utah... :lol:

Zummi
Aug 24th, 2006, 09:39 PM
Salt Lake City hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1975.

The current mayor ran as a "conservative Democrat"??? Who's feeding you this misinformation? Or are you just making it all up?

Rocky Anderson has always been liberal right from his first failed run for Congress in 1996. Iin his first mayoral run-off in 1999, it was his opponent who ran as the "more conservative Democrat". And he described Keith Christensen, the nominal Republican he endorsed last month, as "progressive". Of course, there's no guarantee he's going to win next year either given the Democratic leanings of SLC.

And as for Utahns having a "largely independent streak" - it has been a while since we've seen any evidence of that. The last time they didn't vote Republican for President was 1964 and no Democrat has won a gubernatorial race there since 1980. For crying out loud, 60% of the state still think Dubya's doing a heck of a job - and that number hasn't dropped below 50% - EVER - in the last 6 years.

There are Western states with strong independent streaks - like Arizona, Nevada, Colorado etc. - but Utah certainly ain't one of them.

Lord Nelson
Aug 24th, 2006, 10:42 PM
there are many Conservative Christians who are against the Iraqi war. I wish they were more gung ho.

samsung101
Aug 31st, 2006, 08:48 PM
City Hall had to hire several more people to deal with the
angry phone calls, e-mails, and notices from citizens of SLC
about the outgoing Mayors anti-Bush protest arrangements.
They had almost 20,000 responses in the past weeks about
this - mad the Mayor was helping organize this -not just
against Bush, but against the American Legion convention,
and that isn't going over very well.



A few thousand showed up for a few days of Bush bashing
at the American Legion Convention...not much really when
you consider this was a blog made event, and had been
promoted for days - heavily in So. Cal. Only a short flight
away.

The Mayor will likely be replaced by a Republican because
of his stance and his actions, as the Democrat who led
the place for a few years. He has sufficiently ticked off the
local community to do just that. Thanks.



The Mayor - like a lot of the corporate and business and
political leaders in Salt Lake City - is a liberal. Yes, I know
this is shocking to the rest of the nation that thinks all o
Utah is Mormon and devout Republican. The State as a whole
is conservative, very much so.


There are also a lot of far right, conspiracy theorists who
reside in Utah - the govt. is out to get you sort of thing, and
they don't like Bush, Kerry, Kennedy, or Congress in general.
It's all an evil plot to take their land and families away to them.

But, it is also a place that has had a huge influx of non-Mormom
residents move in over the past years because of the housing
prices, great jobs, good schools, and beautiful location. SLC is
a pretty place. Can't deny that. It's very family oriented.
Utah is a fast growing state, and SLC leads the way. Ditto for
Colorado and Arizona, etc.



It's a larger version of Irvine, California, one of the most liberal
cities in conservative Orange County, led by Democrats.

RVD
Aug 31st, 2006, 09:59 PM
The SLC Mayor is on his way out, so I guess he figures
why not go out with a bang. Invite Code Pink and Cindy
Sheehan to SLC to protest Bush visit. He's a Democrat.

See, Utah does have diversity.
Can't say it is 100% Republican.
Never has been.
It has a largely independent streak,
and a lot of anti-govt. sentiment that
runs more anti-any party.

Many are angry he is doing this. It's not a popular
move among the Utes.


Not only because their family members are in the
service, but, because Utah has a lot of federal
govt. contracts and ties, and military personnel
and bases.

He ran as a conservative Democrat (it is Utah afterall),
but, hasn't run his office that way. Needless to say,
his replacement likely be the Republican he is also
endorsing, and who is running away from most of
this guys record. But, hey, it's fun stuff.

Won't do much to deter a popular reception for Bush
in Utah overall though.

A booming state with a population boom from inside
and out, housing and job expansion all over the state.

Great housing prices even now.:haha: :haha: Sometimes you crack me up Samsung. So I'll give you somewhat of a pass this time. Hmmm...?
Still, entering your threads is like entering the Twilight Zone. :lol:

Samsung, honestly...where do you get your information? :scratch:
Iíve been to Utah, and my opinion of the place parallels, my friends [who've frequented the place]; an ex-lover, 28 years my senior :o [whose family lives there, and who [obviously] has intimate knowledge of the politics there...
...ALL agree that Utah is NOT a minority friendly state, so what diversity are you talking about? And 2), NOR is it a democratically leaning state, as you are attempting to make it out to be.

Honestly, where do you get your information? :confused:

Sometimes I think you make this stuff up just to piss people off. :hehehe:
But anyway, letís see what we can dig up, shall we...?

I visited an unbiased web site [at least it appears to be unbiased and impartial] on Utah and itís government representatives. http://www.politics1.com/ut.htm

And here is the party breakdown:

GOVERNOR:
Jon Huntsman Jr. (R)*

LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR:
Gary Herbert (R)*

ATTORNEY GENERAL:
Mark Shurtleff (R)*

STATE TREASURER:
Ed Alter (R)*

STATE AUDITOR:
Auston Johnson (R)*

U.S. SENATOR:
Orrin Hatch (R)* By far, not the most open-minded or tolerant man in politics :hehehe:

U.S. CONGRESS:

District 1:
Rob Bishop (R)* Hmmm...? Well lookie there...? Another Republican. Who'd a thought? :lol:

District 2:
Jim Matheson (D)* MY GOD!! A Democrat!!!
How'd the hell did he slip through! :tape:
Oh, but look at his fellow constituent from District 2.
LaVar Christensen (R) - State Rep., Attorney & Developer

District 3:
Chris Cannon (R)*
Christian Burridge (D)

Now, aside from some lower level governmental offices, and a Mayor or two, how can you possibly proclaim Utah to be in any way "diverse"?

Then again, I could be wrong. I mean, sometimes these little things called Facts sometimes get in the way of what I choose to call reality. :scratch: :lol:

samsung101
Aug 31st, 2006, 10:13 PM
Of course, Utah also has polygamy.


Yes, you can buy alcohol just about anywhere there,
I've never had a problem finding a margarita there.

Now, if you told me Provo or BYU or SUU were having
a mass anti-Bush rally, I'd be surprised. SLC, not very
surprising.



It's the home state of Robert Redford, the Sundance
Institute, and the Sundance Film Festival.

Not far from SLC.




Pretty state.

Well, the southern part is a big sparse, but, Zion and
Bryce and Cedar Breaks are fantastic.