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Volcana
Aug 21st, 2006, 07:27 AM
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You gotta love this stuff

http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2006/07/a_confederacy_o.html

This is New Jersey right? So it's all about 'southern heritage', not anti-Black white supremacy. The 'I have a dream' motif is articularly insightful, as a way of saying that white supremacy is no longer part of the warp and woof of society in the United States.

(I apoloize to all who's knowledge of the USA makes the irony too obscure.)

jbeacinu
Aug 21st, 2006, 07:44 AM
Ouch

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 08:42 AM
ouch that does hurt. I havent read all of it but yeah that sucks. Spent my vacation this Summer there, but didnt notice any type of racism.

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 09:54 AM
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You gotta love this stuff

http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2006/07/a_confederacy_o.html

This is New Jersey right? So it's all about 'southern heritage', not anti-Black white supremacy. The 'I have a dream' motif is articularly insightful, as a way of saying that white supremacy is no longer part of the warp and woof of society in the United States.

(I apoloize to all who's knowledge of the USA makes the irony too obscure.)That's actually sort of scary...really. :scared:

I'll be a good fellow and just leave it at that. ;)

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 10:06 AM
what scares me is that this is out of Wildwood. wildwood for those who dont know, is a "conservative" beach community on the Jersey Shore. actually i dont know how conservative it is, i think it is though. It is pretty upscale these days and is spoken often in the same breath as ocean city as being a place to invest at the shore. It is clean cut and typical of jersey shore atmostphere. sad if racism comes into play here.

*JR*
Aug 21st, 2006, 06:15 PM
The Klan types will never displace the Mafia re. who runs Nooo Joisy. ;)

SelesFan70
Aug 21st, 2006, 06:17 PM
Noooooooooo! Yankees all get along...say it ain't so! :rolleyes:

Why is this surprising to anyone?

njnetswill
Aug 21st, 2006, 06:28 PM
A true person from NJ would never wave around a Confederate flag. Unless they are some radical Neo-Nazi freak, but there are those in all states.

Barrie_Dude
Aug 21st, 2006, 06:40 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, obviously been sniffing too much toxic waste in Jersey again

decemberlove
Aug 21st, 2006, 07:12 PM
Barrie, shut the fuck up.

Well, South Jersey is South Jersey. To the west of Wildwood and lots of other shore towns south of Seaside, it's all woods. As a person who has explored most of those woods, there are lots of people living back there like it's fucking Deliverance - houses in the middle of the woods and weird "religious" communities.

My ex-boyfriend's father was supposedly in a motorcycle gang that slit the throat of a black man. And his best friend had a huge monster truck with a confederate flag covered the ceiling of it. It was disgusting. They were all about "Piney Power".

South Jersey has a very different mentality from North or Central Jersey. They take to heart that if the Mason-Dixon line kept going east, it would cut straight through Jersey. They're all fucked in the head. :retard:

griffin
Aug 21st, 2006, 08:17 PM
People forget that the Klan has NEVER been soley a southern phenomenon. There was aperiod of time where they all but owned Indiana's state goverment, and branches were holding summer get-togethers at New Jersey's summer camps at least since the 1920's (my grandmother went to one camp as a young woman, and was horrified to stumble on a cross-brurning late one night).



Probably elsewhere, too.

Volcana
Aug 21st, 2006, 10:06 PM
Regardless of how far the USA has come from it's past, the original threads are still there. We are, I suppose, like every other country in the worl in that regard.

meyerpl
Aug 21st, 2006, 10:29 PM
You'll always be able to find racial bigots in the U.S., just as you'll always find men beating their wives. Both were once considered perfectly acceptable among respected members of the community. Now, you're ostracized and treated like a pariah if you're found to be guilty of either, as well you should be.

You'll notice the KKK wears masks to hide their faces during their public demonstrations. Gutless bastards. I never saw anyone marching from Selma to Montgomery in 1965 wearing a mask.

moon
Aug 21st, 2006, 11:55 PM
Barrie, shut the fuck up.

Well, South Jersey is South Jersey. To the west of Wildwood and lots of other shore towns south of Seaside, it's all woods. As a person who has explored most of those woods, there are lots of people living back there like it's fucking Deliverance - houses in the middle of the woods and weird "religious" communities.

My ex-boyfriend's father was supposedly in a motorcycle gang that slit the throat of a black man. And his best friend had a huge monster truck with a confederate flag covered the ceiling of it. It was disgusting. They were all about "Piney Power".

South Jersey has a very different mentality from North or Central Jersey. They take to heart that if the Mason-Dixon line kept going east, it would cut straight through Jersey. They're all fucked in the head. :retard:


you're right.
totally different mentally and physically in South Jersey.

lizchris
Aug 22nd, 2006, 04:13 AM
I don't see why anyone is surpirsed that this is that type of activity in southern NJ. As far as I am concerned, the Mason Dixon line goes through Perth Amboy, NJ. It is of little coincidence that the most violent city in NJ is in souther NJ (Candem).

njtennis11
Aug 22nd, 2006, 04:32 AM
Perth Amboy is too far north, its more in counties like Salem and Cumberland. Anyway the state of New Jersey is very interesting as whole(I can say it being as though I live here). Anyway, the extreme northern part is very nice with nice mountains, then it becomes very industrialized like the ORanges and Newark(where New Jersey gets its reputation from), further south it gets very farm like, near where I live. But its also close to the shore which is also beautiful i.e. Monmouth and Ocean Counties. Further south though it actually has a southern feel which is probably where these type of activities are from. I like to sepearte NJ into 4 parts the North, the north central, the central, and the south. Anyway theres the entire analysis on New Jersey.

moon
Aug 22nd, 2006, 04:39 AM
Perth Amboy is too far north, its more in counties like Salem and Cumberland. Anyway the state of New Jersey is very interesting as whole(I can say it being as though I live here). Anyway, the extreme northern part is very nice with nice mountains, then it becomes very industrialized like the ORanges and Newark(where New Jersey gets its reputation from), further south it gets very farm like, near where I live. But its also close to the shore which is also beautiful i.e. Monmouth and Ocean Counties. Further south though it actually has a southern feel which is probably where these type of activities are from. I like to sepearte NJ into 4 parts the North, the north central, the central, and the south. Anyway theres the entire analysis on New Jersey.

It is weird how different parts of the state are. I grew up in Newark, but then my mom moved to South Jersey after I went away to college. It was a major culture shock going home for breaks.

njtennis11
Aug 22nd, 2006, 04:44 AM
I go to the southern part of the state a lot for hockey games and also the northern part. But I can say from experience that the kids and parents from the southern part are always so much let me see how to say it trashier then those from the north. It really is a completely different atmosphere and culture down there.

njnetswill
Aug 22nd, 2006, 04:46 AM
I wouldn't call Camden Southern New Jersey.

njtennis11
Aug 22nd, 2006, 04:48 AM
Camden is definitley southeastern NJ.

Scotso
Aug 22nd, 2006, 05:54 AM
Disgusting.

kiwifan
Aug 22nd, 2006, 06:18 AM
somerset county kicks ass, dude. :angel:

"Sluggy"
Aug 22nd, 2006, 07:49 AM
sure, Jersey certainly has its problems. I dont think the venom is any more directed at African Americans or dark peoples, any more than say JEWS or ASIANS or anyone else though.

griffin
Aug 22nd, 2006, 02:36 PM
Camden is South?

I grew up in Bergen County, which is about as far north as you can get in Jersey. At best, you could say the local flavor of bigotry was more influenced by anti-semitism than racism, but the racism was there (just hidden under more neatly manicured lawns)

As a country we've come a long way. But we're not there yet.

"Sluggy"
Aug 22nd, 2006, 02:52 PM
I grew up in Bergen County, which is about as far north as you can get in Jersey. At best, you could say the local flavor of bigotry was more influenced by anti-semitism than racism, but the racism was there (just hidden under more neatly manicured lawns)

Are you saying that people seemed to dislike JEEEEEEEEEWS more than people of colour?

griffin
Aug 22nd, 2006, 03:01 PM
I'm saying that because there was a higher percentage of Jews living in the area, I heard more about it.

partbrit
Aug 22nd, 2006, 03:09 PM
The concept of white supremacy cannot be reborn anywhere in the U.S. because it has never died. It's convenient to pick on the South because of obvious symbols like Confederate flags, but racism itself is everywhere. Much of it is subtle and hidden, like a lot of sexism is. The white heterosexual male privilege is still what runs the culture. What makes the U.S. different is that we like to pretend it doesn't.

One of the most revealing recent surveys was done about the victims of Katrina. In every category of respondent--including educated "liberal" Americans--less aid was suggested when the photo showed a victim of color.

"Sluggy"
Aug 22nd, 2006, 03:10 PM
I'm saying that because there was a higher percentage of Jews living in the area, I heard more about it.

That is probably just an indication that: *** It is still socially tolerated to have "issues" with Jews, but you can't admit to having "issues" relating to "race". what does one do about dark-skinned jews though? :p

griffin
Aug 22nd, 2006, 03:18 PM
Neither were socially tolerable.

Both were simply indulged in in more private settings, and since there were more Jewish people around, the bigots had more Jewish people to talk about.

njnetswill
Aug 23rd, 2006, 05:38 AM
Camden is definitley southeastern NJ.

I think of Cape May when i see "Souther New Jersey" :tape:

Mother_Marjorie
Aug 23rd, 2006, 06:19 AM
White Supremecy Movement "Reborn?"

When did it ever leave???

Volcana
Aug 25th, 2006, 06:02 AM
White Supremecy Movement "Reborn?"

When did it ever leave???Poetic license.

hingisGOAT
Aug 25th, 2006, 09:35 AM
okay, a few things:

anything north of trenton is north jersey
anything south of trenton is south jersey (this includes camden)

to whoever said that wildwood is "affluent": it's actually the trashiest shore town on the south jersey shore. ocean city is nice (its a dry town), the surrounding towns are very pretty and well maintained, wildwood is the sleezy town (like atlantic city w/o the gambling).

which brings me to mention that other than wildwood, south jersey has the far better shore towns, avalon, ocean city, cape may, sea isle, atlantic city etc., and the suburbs in south jersey closer to philadelphia have the highest standard of living in the country

so i wouldn't say that south jersey inhabitants are 'trashy' or whatever