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spiceboy
Aug 20th, 2006, 11:28 PM
http://news.superiorpics.com/2006/08/19/BEYONCE___I_LL_NEVER_LOSE_MYSELF_LIKE_LAURYN_.html

BEYONCE: 'I'LL NEVER LOSE MYSELF LIKE LAURYN' (http://news.superiorpics.com/2006/08/19/BEYONCE___I_LL_NEVER_LOSE_MYSELF_LIKE_LAURYN_.html )

BEYONCE KNOWLES is determined to cope with her spiralling fame, insisting she will never ''lose herself'' like FUGEES star LAURYN HILL.

The CRAZY IN LOVE star was shocked when Hill suddenly shaved her head and turned her back on the limelight, visiting tough Brooklyn schools with her guitar.

And although she still respects the READY OR NOT singer's work, Knowles believes she is far more grounded than Hill.

She says, "Her story is the most tragic. I mean, her record was genius. But drama and demands and the pressure and all of the people giving you so much access to so many things can be too much.

"So couple that with everyone telling you you're so this and so that and so perfect and of course you can lose yourself.

"I don't know what's going to happen to me but I know I'm more than a singer and I have so many other things in my life to keep me focused. I hope and pray that I stay as comfortable in my own skin as I am right now."

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 20th, 2006, 11:44 PM
This is why I can't stand the bitch. Saying stupid shit like this annoys the hell out of me. Mark Knowles might be control of many things in Beyonce's career but he just let's her say and do some stupid things.
Lauryn Hill found herself. She didn't fall under the pressure of media.
Her son is still her priority and has always been that way. She acknowledges the issues of western society instead of actually participating in them like Beyonce does.

Lauryn has never compromised herself or her songwriting ability to be famous. That's something Beyonce can be proud of doing. :tape:
What Beyonce should have said was...
If I was half the women Lauryn Hill was, I could die a happy person.

spiceboy
Aug 20th, 2006, 11:47 PM
This is why I can't stand the bitch. Saying stupid shit like this annoys the hell out of me. Mark Knowles might be control of many things in Beyonce's career but he just let's her say and do some stupid things.
Lauryn Hill found herself. She didn't fall under the pressure of media.
Her son is still her priority and has always been that way. She acknowledges the issues of western society instead of actually participating in them like Beyonce does.

Lauryn has never compromised herself or her songwriting ability to be famous. That's something Beyonce can be proud of doing. :tape:
What Beyonce should have said was...
If I was half the women Lauryn Hill was, I could die a happy person.

:worship:

Amen

LenaDisforMe
Aug 20th, 2006, 11:48 PM
whats the whole story with Lauryn Hill? :confused:

timafi
Aug 20th, 2006, 11:50 PM
Beyonce needs to stfu about Miss Hill :mad: :mad: :mad:

RVD
Aug 20th, 2006, 11:50 PM
This is why I can't stand the bitch. Saying stupid shit like this annoys the hell out of me. Mark Knowles might be control of many things in Beyonce's career but he just let's her say and do some stupid things.
Lauryn Hill found herself. She didn't fall under the pressure of media.
Her son is still her priority and has always been that way. She acknowledges the issues of western society instead of actually participating in them like Beyonce does.

Lauryn has never compromised herself or her songwriting ability to be famous. That's something Beyonce can be proud of doing. :tape:
What Beyonce should have said was...
If I was half the women Lauryn Hill was, I could die a happy person. :worship: :worship: These are the first words that came to mind as well.
That skanky, no-talent, high-yellow biee-yatch is downing Lauryn?!
Lauryn made a career decision to put 100% into raising her son WITHOUT A DAD!! %!*@ Beyonce simply a B-ranked Tina Turner wannabe, and I'm being generous here. :fiery:

timafi
Aug 20th, 2006, 11:53 PM
:worship: :worship: These are the first words that came to mind as well.
That skanky, no-talent, high-yellow bitch is downing Lauryn?!
Lauryn made a career decision to put 100% into raising her son WITHOUT A DAD!! %!*@ Beyonce simply a B-ranked Tina Turner wannabe, and I'm being generous here. :fiery:
:worship: :worship: :worship:

No Name Face
Aug 20th, 2006, 11:57 PM
if you read the article closely, she never actually implicates she won't lose herself like lauryn...what the article states and the caption states is VERY different and you must be cognizant of that before judging queen bee.

that being said, i don't like her that much and will never make a "miseducation of lauryn hill" --- funny this came up, because that's one of the few records i own, as in, bought with my own money. and i don't regret it at all.

jd4eva
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:03 AM
This is why I can't stand the bitch. Saying stupid shit like this annoys the hell out of me. Mark Knowles might be control of many things in Beyonce's career but he just let's her say and do some stupid things.
Lauryn Hill found herself. She didn't fall under the pressure of media.
Her son is still her priority and has always been that way. She acknowledges the issues of western society instead of actually participating in them like Beyonce does.

Lauryn has never compromised herself or her songwriting ability to be famous. That's something Beyonce can be proud of doing. :tape:
What Beyonce should have said was...
If I was half the women Lauryn Hill was, I could die a happy person.

Perhaps you wouldn't sound so ignorant if you read the entire interview located here:

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,1852025,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=6

Here is the relevant excerpt:
At that level of fame, however, the dangers are enormous. We speak a little about the incumbent problems that American stars seem to fall prey to as they straddle her level of success. We talk about Mariah Carey's breakdown, Mary J Blige's beaten drug habit and Whitney Houston's ongoing one. She adds Michael Jackson into the pot. "Do I worry about that?" she says, softly "No." There is a pause. "I mean, I just cannot worry about that."

I remind her that the last female soul singer to threaten the kind of global pre-eminence Beyoncé is aspiring to, Lauryn Hill, ended up shaving her head and touring Brooklyn high schools to sing folk songs with an acoustic guitar, sabotaging a brilliant nascent career.

"Her story is the most tragic," she agrees. "I mean, her record was genius. But the drama and the demands and the pressure and all of the people giving you so much access to so many things can be too much. So couple that with everyone telling you you're so this and so that and so perfect and of course you can lose yourself.

"The thing that I always say is that I'm lucky to have my family around me. But it's true. I'm really not worried about that. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm 24 years old. I would be dumb to say what I'm never going to do. I'm too young and sure I'll change a hundred times over my life."

Venus Forever
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:04 AM
if you read the article closely, she never actually implicates she won't lose herself like lauryn...what the article states and the caption states is VERY different and you must be cognizant of that before judging queen bee.

that being said, i don't like her that much and will never make a "miseducation of lauryn hill" --- funny this came up, because that's one of the few records i own, as in, bought with my own money. and i don't regret it at all.
The only Queen Bee is Lil' Kim :p

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:04 AM
The CRAZY IN LOVE star was shocked when Hill suddenly shaved her head and turned her back on the limelight, visiting tough Brooklyn schools with her guitar.

I hope and pray that I stay as comfortable in my own skin as I am right now."

You're not comfortable in your skin Beyonce. You're comfortable in the skin society WANTS you to be in which is a shallow shell of a women.

This is what a real women who is comfortable would say:

Sometimes I shave my legs and sometimes I don't
Sometimes I comb my hair and sometimes I won't
Depend on how the wind blows I might even paint my toes
It really just depends on whatever feels good in my soul

I'm not the average girl from your video
and I ain't built like a supermodel
But, I learned to love myself unconditionally
Because I am a queen
I'm not the average girl from your video
My worth is not determined by the price of my clothes
No matter what I'm wearing I will always be the india arie

:worship: :worship:

Brooklyn90
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:06 AM
lauryn is a way better artist than beyonce will ever be. The only reason lauryn took all this time off was to have a faimly. Lauryn is one of the greatest artists of this generation and her work will live on for along time!

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:11 AM
Perhaps you wouldn't sound so ignorant if you read the entire interview located here:

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,1852025,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=6

I remind her that the last female soul singer to threaten the kind of global pre-eminence Beyoncé is aspiring to, Lauryn Hill, ended up shaving her head and touring Brooklyn high schools to sing folk songs with an acoustic guitar, sabotaging a brilliant nascent career.

Sweetie. I'm not the one who's ignorant. It's the person who reminded Beyonce about Lauryn Hill. It's Beyonce who submitted to the pressure of media thus sounding like a fool.

Lauryn still went platinum on her second album. If she wanted to tour Brooklyn high schools and sing folks songs with an acoustic guitar then she can do that. That's what growth is all about.
Maybe she was a little before her time but to say she sabotaged her career is outlandish.

cometz9
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:12 AM
Beyonce :retard: MYOB :smash:

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:22 AM
if you read the article closely, she never actually implicates she won't lose herself like lauryn...what the article states and the caption states is VERY different and you must be cognizant of that before judging queen bee.

that being said, i don't like her that much and will never make a "miseducation of lauryn hill" --- funny this came up, because that's one of the few records i own, as in, bought with my own money. and i don't regret it at all.Is this Beyonce's quote?: She says, "Her story is the most tragic. I mean, her record was genius. But drama and demands and the pressure and all of the people giving you so much access to so many things can be too much. If so, Beyonce is talking out her azz. Lauryn stopped performing to raise her family. If Beyonce took the time to read a few articles [The last and most in-depth in Rolling Stones...I believe :scratch: ] she wouldn't have mistaken the reason for "pressure of the industry" being the cause. I used to think Beyonce was a smart businesswoman like Lauryn Hill. But now I see her as no more than a narcissistic moron. :devil: :kiss:

Incidentally, I own The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill" CD. And it's still SLAMMIN' :worship: :worship: :wavey:

LenaDisforMe
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:26 AM
I just ordered Lauryn Hill's Miseducation CD because of this thread, nice publicity from Beyonce for Miss Lauryn I guess :lol:

No Name Face
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:29 AM
Is this Beyonce's quote?: If so, Beyonce is talking out her azz. Lauryn stopped performing to raise her family. If Beyonce took the time to read a few articles [The last and most in-depth in Rolling Stones...I believe :scratch: ] she wouldn't have mistaken the reason for "pressure of the industry" being the cause. I used to think Beyonce was a smart businesswoman like Lauryn Hill. But now I see her as no more than a narcissistic moron. :devil: :kiss:

true. but the caption is not what she actually said --- if she said what the thread topic says she said, then she'd be a bitch/all the things you're naming her.


Incidentally, I own The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill" CD. And it's still SLAMMIN' :worship: :worship: :wavey:

i know. i ripped the CD to my ipod and i was listening to it the other day.
"ex factor" is one of the best songs ever.

venus_rulez
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:33 AM
Is this Beyonce's quote?: If so, Beyonce is talking out her azz. Lauryn stopped performing to raise her family. If Beyonce took the time to read a few articles [The last and most in-depth in Rolling Stones...I believe :scratch: ] she wouldn't have mistaken the reason for "pressure of the industry" being the cause. I used to think Beyonce was a smart businesswoman like Lauryn Hill. But now I see her as no more than a narcissistic moron. :devil: :kiss:

Incidentally, I own The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill" CD. And it's still SLAMMIN' :worship: :worship: :wavey:



Are you sure that's what happened? I always thought and read, I think in an interview with Pras, that both him and Wyclef had been very worried about her (lauryn) for quite sometime because she had totally changed. Not that you can believe everything you read, and there have been several times where things have been said out of context. Personally, i think lauryn did go cookoo for a while, and I think the pressure did get to her, but none of us know the daily life of Lauryn so we're speculating.

Brooklyn90
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:35 AM
Are you sure that's what happened? I always thought and read, I think in an interview with Pras, that both him and Wyclef had been very worried about her (lauryn) for quite sometime because she had totally changed. Not that you can believe everything you read, and there have been several times where things have been said out of context. Personally, i think lauryn did go cookoo for a while, and I think the pressure did get to her, but none of us know the daily life of Lauryn so we're speculating.
i think the only reason she took all this time off was to start a family, and wyclef pras and lauryn haven't goten along since the fugees broke up so of course the would be saying all that stuff.

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:37 AM
true. but the caption is not what she actually said --- if she said what the thread topic says she said, then she'd be a bitch/all the things you're naming her.



i know. i ripped the CD to my ipod and i was listening to it the other day.
"ex factor" is one of the best songs ever.:lol: yeah...I just needed a reason to rip into Beyonce. She irks the hell out of me with that 'warbling' she calls singing. :lol:
Still, she appears to place herself above Lauryn for no good reason, based upon her quotes. Me thinks she's been hanging with Jay-Z for far too long. :devil: :p

volta
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:40 AM
true. but the caption is not what she actually said --- if she said what the thread topic says she said, then she'd be a bitch/all the things you're naming her.



i know. i ripped the CD to my ipod and i was listening to it the other day.
"ex factor" is one of the best songs ever.
Ex-Factor is the shit :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:44 AM
Are you sure that's what happened? I always thought and read, I think in an interview with Pras, that both him and Wyclef had been very worried about her (lauryn) for quite sometime because she had totally changed. Not that you can believe everything you read, and there have been several times where things have been said out of context. Personally, i think lauryn did go cookoo for a while, and I think the pressure did get to her, but none of us know the daily life of Lauryn so we're speculating.True...one can't believe everything one reads. Even this Beyonce artcle may have been written out on context.

But as to Lauryn's absence...
I recall reading about her reason for leaving [and becoming extremely upset] being due to the demands of caring for her son without the help of the father. I will try to locate the article. but again, who really knows what goes on in the life of such a career. The music industry is just so demanding and cut-throat; which makes what Beyonce may have said even more shocking. The industry is still male dominated, and you'd think the ladies would cut each other some slack. :)

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:47 AM
true. but the caption is not what she actually said --- if she said what the thread topic says she said, then she'd be a bitch/all the things you're naming her.



i know. i ripped the CD to my ipod and i was listening to it the other day.
"ex factor" is one of the best songs ever.

Is a hypocrit any better than a bitch. :p
Beyonce talks about the pressure being too much for Ms. Hill while at the same time getting pressured by her interviewer to actually say something that would be considered negative about Lauryn.

harloo
Aug 21st, 2006, 12:57 AM
Perhaps you wouldn't sound so ignorant if you read the entire interview located here:

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,1852025,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=6

Here is the relevant excerpt:
At that level of fame, however, the dangers are enormous. We speak a little about the incumbent problems that American stars seem to fall prey to as they straddle her level of success. We talk about Mariah Carey's breakdown, Mary J Blige's beaten drug habit and Whitney Houston's ongoing one. She adds Michael Jackson into the pot. "Do I worry about that?" she says, softly "No." There is a pause. "I mean, I just cannot worry about that."

I remind her that the last female soul singer to threaten the kind of global pre-eminence Beyoncé is aspiring to, Lauryn Hill, ended up shaving her head and touring Brooklyn high schools to sing folk songs with an acoustic guitar, sabotaging a brilliant nascent career.

"Her story is the most tragic," she agrees. "I mean, her record was genius. But the drama and the demands and the pressure and all of the people giving you so much access to so many things can be too much. So couple that with everyone telling you you're so this and so that and so perfect and of course you can lose yourself.

"The thing that I always say is that I'm lucky to have my family around me. But it's true. I'm really not worried about that. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm 24 years old. I would be dumb to say what I'm never going to do. I'm too young and sure I'll change a hundred times over my life."

Thanks!!!
Wow, context sure does make a hell of difference. From the way Beyonce haters made it sound you would think that she flat out dissed Ms. Hill. :rolleyes:

It's no secret that Lauryn has lost her damn mind. I just recently attended a secret concert of hers(didn't think she would show) and let me tell you she was just weird. She arrived two hours late, kept forgetting words to songs, and started talking about religion. I thought she did a good job but the afro wig and weird attire really freaked me out.:lol:

harloo
Aug 21st, 2006, 01:00 AM
Ex-Factor is the shit :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

I loved MisEducation, and kind of even felt Unplugged 2.0 even though it was like Ms. Hill on prozac.;)

Jericho
Aug 21st, 2006, 01:01 AM
im one of lauryn's biggest fans... but beyonce's right tho :o

volta
Aug 21st, 2006, 01:03 AM
I loved MisEducation, and kind of even felt Unplugged 2.0 even though it was like Ms. Hill on prozac.;)
people said lots of bad stuff about Unplugged but i actually like that album :hearts:

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 01:07 AM
Well, it appears that it will take me much longer to locate the article I read some loooong year ago. :lol: And the article might be buried somewhere among these stories ... http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/laurynhill/articles/2 :shrug:

However, wikipedia has an interesting write-up ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauryn_Hill
In the months and years after the release of her debut album, Hill became increasingly disappointed with the music industry. In the February 2006 issue of Essence Magazine, Hill speaks about this time in her life: "For two or three years I was away from all social interaction. It was a very introspective time because I had to confront my fears and master every demonic thought about inferiority, about insecurity or the fear of being Black, young and gifted in this western culture. It took a considerable amount of courage, faith and risk to gain the confidence to be myself." During this time, she ceased to be a public figure and stopped doing interviews. She stopped watching television and listening to music completely. During this time, Hill explored alternate methods of expressing herself, including writing a considerable amount of music, poetry, screenplays, clothing designs, etc. From experience, I've noticed that wikipedia won't have all the info, but they do offer some small degree of insight. :)
At any rate, isn't the bold text a far cry from the reasons that Beyonce sighted? :hehehe:

harloo
Aug 21st, 2006, 01:08 AM
people said lots of bad stuff about Unplugged but i actually like that album :hearts:

Yep, I kind of enjoyed it because she was so RAW. The album was very complex and difficult for many in the general public to understand. The lyrical content on that album is amazing.

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 01:14 AM
Thanks!!!
Wow, context sure does make a hell of difference. From the way Beyonce haters made it sound you would think that she flat out dissed Ms. Hill. :rolleyes:

It's no secret that Lauryn has lost her damn mind. I just recently attended a secret concert of hers(didn't think she would show) and let me tell you she was just weird. She arrived two hours late, kept forgetting words to songs, and started talking about religion. I thought she did a good job but the afro wig and weird attire really freaked me out.:lol:Okay...after reading that piece, I can understand where Beyonce is coming from. :)
I wish articles wouldn't leave such text out. It makes for bad journalism. :(

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 21st, 2006, 01:25 AM
Thanks!!!
Wow, context sure does make a hell of difference. From the way Beyonce haters made it sound you would think that she flat out dissed Ms. Hill. :rolleyes:

It's no secret that Lauryn has lost her damn mind. I just recently attended a secret concert of hers(didn't think she would show) and let me tell you she was just weird. She arrived two hours late, kept forgetting words to songs, and started talking about religion. I thought she did a good job but the afro wig and weird attire really freaked me out.:lol:

So she forgot some words to her songs.
Do you think that everytime an artist asks a crowd to sing their lyrics, it's because they want to bring them into the feeling that they have. :lol:
So Lauryn didn't do a good job of playing it off.

A lot of artists arrive late for concerts.
I remember waiting an hour for a Brand New Heavies concert.

She talked religion. So what. You want to know who talks about religion and is scary doing it, Erykah Badu.

When did a bad fashion sense and a wig or weave mean crazy.
If that's the case, half of the players on the WTA tour are crazy.

No Name Face
Aug 21st, 2006, 01:30 AM
:lol: yeah...I just needed a reason to rip into Beyonce. She irks the hell out of me with that 'warbling' she calls singing. :lol:
Still, she appears to place herself above Lauryn for no good reason, based upon her quotes. Me thinks she's been hanging with Jay-Z for far too long. :devil: :p

lol. except hov is genius.

Is a hypocrit any better than a bitch. :p
Beyonce talks about the pressure being too much for Ms. Hill while at the same time getting pressured by her interviewer to actually say something that would be considered negative about Lauryn.

---

lol. ya'll can rip into yonka. i'm not her fan at all. i even think her looks are overrated.

i just hate shoddy journalism and this is an example of it.

harloo
Aug 21st, 2006, 01:35 AM
So she forgot some words to her songs.
Do you think that everytime an artist asks a crowd to sing their lyrics, it's because they want to bring them into the feeling that they have. :lol:
So Lauryn didn't do a good job of playing it off.

A lot of artists arrive late for concerts.
I remember waiting an hour for a Brand New Heavies concert.

She talked religion. So what. You want to know who talks about religion and is scary doing it, Erykah Badu.

When did a bad fashion sense and a wig or weave mean crazy.
If that's the case, half of the players on the WTA tour are crazy.

While I'm aware that other artists forget the words to songs, you really had to be there. She was acting extremely weird and other people in the audience were commenting on it also.

A lengthy article was posted here not long ago about Lauryn and how all the pressure came tumbling down on her. Listen to Unplugged and she tells the story clearly about her troubles. On that album I honestly felt she was crying out for help. Somewhere Lauryn lost herself and I'm hoping that she gets it back because she is a musical genius.

Knizzle
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:03 AM
Lauryn did flip out, maybe not just because of the pressures of fame, but because of the way the men in her life abused her. Ya'll can buy that "raising family" if you want to. I'm not saying she isn't focusing on her kids, but that's not why she all of a sudden shaved her head and dropped off of the face of the planet.

Jericho
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:12 AM
A lengthy article was posted here not long ago about Lauryn and how all the pressure came tumbling down on her.

this article maybe? http://www.toure.com/CONTENT/ARTICLES/laurenhill.htm

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:18 AM
Lauryn did flip out, maybe not just because of the pressures of fame, but because of the way the men in her life abused her. Ya'll can buy that "raising family" if you want to. I'm not saying she isn't focusing on her kids, but that's not why she all of a sudden shaved her head and dropped off of the face of the planet.

Four years between studio albums is not dropping off the face of the planet.
Anita Baker had ten years between studio albums because of disputes with her contract.
Sarah McLachlan took 6 years between studio albums while giving birth to her daughter and taking care of her dieing mother.
Noone's calling them crazy. They had children too and took care of them during their hiatus.
All their albums went platinum but didn't come close to their previous studio album.
Why the hell is a women shaving off all her hair associated with demented tendencies?
I don't quite get the connection.
After India.Arie's song, you would think people would start to understand that hair doesn't make the man or woman.

Williamsser
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:22 AM
I still remember Lauryn from Sister Act 2. She is one of my faves. I'm not a big fan of Beyonce.

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:33 AM
Lauryn did flip out, maybe not just because of the pressures of fame, but because of the way the men in her life abused her. Ya'll can buy that "raising family" if you want to. I'm not saying she isn't focusing on her kids, but that's not why she all of a sudden shaved her head and dropped off of the face of the planet.Yeah, but is that the whole story? I don't doubt that men were a reason, because in this article I've been trying to locate [without luck] she commented on how she couldn't count on them. So you make a good point.
Four years between studio albums is not dropping off the face of the planet.
Anita Baker had ten years between studio albums because of disputes with her contract.
Sarah McLachlan took 6 years between studio albums while giving birth to her daughter and taking care of her dieing mother.
Noone's calling them crazy. They had children too and took care of them during their hiatus.
All their albums went platinum but didn't come close to their previous studio album.
Why the hell is a women shaving off all her hair associated with demented tendencies?
I don't quite get the connection.
After India.Arie's song, you would think people would start to understand that hair doesn't make the man or woman.Some of the greatest male performing artists do it all the time. Stevie Wonder and Bob Dylan, just to name a couple. But apparently, when women at Lauyn's level do it, it big news. ;)

Incidentally, I find India.Arie and Erika Badu so damn sexy!! :drool:
I especially liked when Erika shaved her head. Not many women can pull it off, but when they do it's erotic as hell. :hearts:

Wigglytuff
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:42 AM
Beyonce has the iq of a DRUNKEN FRUIT FLY, no talent and thats all before she opens her goddamn mouth.

see this is the thing about people who talk shit, where was her big ass mouth when peta was trying to have a good talk with her?


Brooklyn has some of the best schools in the nation and some of the worst, and if Lauryn wants to tour them and give something back, because she actually has compassion and actually cares about personal growth... guess what?? she can! and you know, i dont think some dimwit who pays people to electrocute small animals is in place to be like "i dont want to end up like that"

i dont think the gods love Beyondcrazy enough to give her the talent, compassion and desire for growth to "end up like that". Beyondcrazy will spend her life a brainless puppet and like it. :shrug:

Wigglytuff
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:43 AM
Yeah, but is that the whole story? I don't doubt that men were a reason, because in this article I've been trying to locate [without luck] she commented on how she couldn't count on them. So you make a good point.
Some of the greatest male performing artists do it all the time. Stevie Wonder and Bob Dylan, just to name a couple. But apparently, when women at Lauyn's level do it, it big news. ;)

Incidentally, I find India.Arie and Erika Badu so damn sexy!! :drool:
I especially liked when Erika shaved her head. Not many women can pull it off, but when they do it's erotic as hell. :hearts:
:worship: :worship: :worship:

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:47 AM
this article maybe? http://www.toure.com/CONTENT/ARTICLES/laurenhill.htmThe year is later than I thought, but I do believe that's the article. THANK YOU!! :wavey:
I remember there being a riff between she and Jean, and a break-up. Reading this article brings it all back now. :D

I wouldn’t say Lauryn’s career is anywhere near dead. She was incredible in Dave Chappelle's Block Party movie. :worship: And she's still an incredibly talented actor with wonderful screen presence. She'll return stronger than ever, I'm sure. :cool:

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:52 AM
Beyonce has the iq of a DRUNKEN FRUIT FLY, no talent and thats all before she opens her goddamn mouth.

see this is the thing about people who talk shit, where was her big ass mouth when peta was trying to have a good talk with her?


but she aint the only ig-nant fool around here. Brooklyn has some of the best schools in the nation and some of the worst, and if she wants tour then and give something back, because she actually has compassion and actually cares about personal growth... guess what?? she can! and you know, i dont think some dimwit who pays people to electrocute small animals is in place to be like "i dont want to end up like that"

i dont think the gods love Beyondcrazy enough to give her the talent, compassion and desire for growth to "end up like that". Beyondcrazy will spend her life a brainless puppet and like it. :shrug:Beyondcrazy! :spit: :haha:

Wa' suuuup Wiggly! :wavey:

njnetswill
Aug 21st, 2006, 02:57 AM
Beyonce :o

In most people's minds what Lauryn did was far more inspirational than your current mess called "Deja Vu".

Wigglytuff
Aug 21st, 2006, 03:07 AM
Beyondcrazy! :spit: :haha:

Wa' suuuup Wiggly! :wavey:
:lol: :lol: you know me the usual: hatin (i was just telling my sister earlier why Lauryns first album sucked. :o ), trying to cause mutiny in the bug reports forum :devil: , ordering knitting needles, reading, watching david attenborough :cool: ... same old same old. :lol: :lol:

tennisbum79
Aug 21st, 2006, 03:19 AM
It appears as the thread progresses, Beyonce may have a good point about Lauryn. I do not think she meant any disrespect.

Crazy Canuck
Aug 21st, 2006, 03:30 AM
:worship: :worship: These are the first words that came to mind as well.
That skanky, no-talent, high-yellow biee-yatch is downing Lauryn?!
Lauryn made a career decision to put 100% into raising her son WITHOUT A DAD!! %!*@ Beyonce simply a B-ranked Tina Turner wannabe, and I'm being generous here. :fiery:

:worship:

jbeacinu
Aug 21st, 2006, 03:35 AM
Wow I don't know what's worse...Beyonces attitude or her singing?

IceSkaTennisFan
Aug 21st, 2006, 04:57 AM
What called for the comparison between Lauryn and herself? :confused: Lauryn is a much better singer and Beyonce is a much better model...

fufuqifuqishahah
Aug 21st, 2006, 06:32 AM
I think beyonce's comments were made out of unawareness and only looking at lauryn hill's life from the typical musical industry point of view. if i were beyonce, i would have thought a little bit more about lauryn hill's life and the reasons why she made her decisions before speaking her mind. she could have been more courteous / respectful about it, instead of saying what happend to her is "tragic". we all know beyonce, and we all know beyonce didn't mean to be disrespectful. if she were to be heavily criticized / scrutinized over this issue, she would probably apologize and restate how she feels about lauryn in a more respectful manner.

nevertheless, i think its idiotic of the people on the thread who seriously believe Beyonce is talentless.

supergrunt
Aug 21st, 2006, 07:03 AM
I loved that cd :hearts: ... The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill that is :)

Brashkoala
Aug 21st, 2006, 07:05 AM
can someone post a quick summary of what beyonce means by lauren hyll becoming lost?

supergrunt
Aug 21st, 2006, 07:13 AM
Did you read the first page?

Wigglytuff
Aug 21st, 2006, 07:21 AM
I loved that cd :hearts: ... The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill that is :)
you i really think she could of done so much better. i guess my expectations were too high, i went back and heard it today it was fine. feel like maybe my expectations were too high. :) i dont think we have heard the last of her.

fnuf7
Aug 21st, 2006, 08:14 AM
What I don't get is why the media/Beyonce in this interview is making it a bad thing that Lauryn went off and did her own thing :confused: I mean it's not like she went on a mass killing spree or anything, just turned her back on the money/publicity and did whatever the hell she wanted :shrug: Full props to her I say.

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 08:49 AM
I think beyonce's comments were made out of unawareness and only looking at lauryn hill's life from the typical musical industry point of view. if i were beyonce, i would have thought a little bit more about lauryn hill's life and the reasons why she made her decisions before speaking her mind. she could have been more courteous / respectful about it, instead of saying what happend to her is "tragic". we all know beyonce, and we all know beyonce didn't mean to be disrespectful. if she were to be heavily criticized / scrutinized over this issue, she would probably apologize and restate how she feels about lauryn in a more respectful manner.

nevertheless, i think its idiotic of the people on the thread who seriously believe Beyonce is talentless.I suppose it's all relative, fufuqifuqishahah. If you compared Lauryn Hill vs. Beyonce's...

Acting: Lauryn Hill
Singing: Lauryn Hill
Fashion: Lauryn Hill
Stage Presence: Lauryn Hill
Intelligence: Lauryn Hill
Politically Tuned in: Lauryn Hill


There's really no comparison.
Let me put it this way...

Lauryn Hill is that rich sweet cream that rises to the top of a delicious chocolate milk shake.
While Beyonce is ...well...whey. You know, that milk plasma stuff that gets left behind after the curdling process in the manufacturing of cheese and cheesy by-products. :haha:

I just couldn't resist.

Wigglytuff
Aug 21st, 2006, 09:02 AM
I suppose it's all relative, fufuqifuqishahah. If you compared Lauryn Hill vs. Beyonce's...

Acting: Lauryn Hill
Singing: Lauryn Hill
Fashion: Lauryn Hill
Stage Presence: Lauryn Hill
Intelligence: Lauryn Hill
Politically Tuned in: Lauryn Hill


There's really no comparison.
Let me put it this way...

Lauryn Hill is that rich sweet cream that rises to the top of a delicious chocolate milk shake.
While Beyonce is ...well...whey. You know, that milk plasma stuff that gets left behind after the curdling process in the manufacturing of cheese and cheesy by-products. :haha:

I just couldn't resist.
:lol: :lol: :rolls: :rolls:
http://www.vellacheese.com/pages/tour/images/08curds-whey.jpg
the whey is that nasty, greasy, milky stuff the curds are floating around in.

yea that sounds like beyonce alright :rolls:

RVD
Aug 21st, 2006, 09:29 AM
:lol: :lol: :rolls: :rolls:
http://www.vellacheese.com/pages/tour/images/08curds-whey.jpg
the whey is that nasty, greasy, milky stuff the curds are floating around in.

yea that sounds like beyonce alright :rolls::haha: :haha: :lol:
You know, I wrote that like 25 minutes ago, and I can't stop laughing.
We should probably stop clowning Beyonce though. She can't help that she thinks she's talented. :tape:

Okay...one last one...

That stuff looks like Beyonce's cheesy thighs. :haha: :lol:

Okay, that was my lasy cap. :angel:
No really...it was. :angel: