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"Sluggy"
Aug 20th, 2006, 07:24 PM
It was a good film. Now that I know the title... Since I've never seen any films with gay themes cept for Philadelphia and boys dont cry but they didnt have gay sex, this was the first gay kissing scenes i've ever seen. It was funny to watch but it was fine. Is this a film big in the US and other countries or more just a film that gay people and gay curious people watch? I didnt catch the entire movie and didnt see what i hear was an explicit scene in the beginning. Is it wierd to never see gay kissing and making out on tv? after all in this new century we know it exists but we see little of it. just things about gays and maybe a pucker up here and there but not sexuality. or are more shows and movies showing this side of life? it would have been better to hear them speaking enlgish, the accent is hard for francophones though, being cowboy accent and all. Have for the straight guys and lesbians, you gotta admit that the female actors in this movie have healthy busoms, n'est-ce pas?

What's with the underlines?

rebel_ffighter
Aug 20th, 2006, 07:27 PM
It was a good film. Was that the title? was it Bare Back Mountain? something like that... Since I've never seen any films with gay themes cept for Philadelphia and boys dont cry but they didnt have gay sex, this was the first gay kissing scenes i've ever seen. It was funny to watch but it was fine. Is this a film big in the US and other countries or more just a film that gay people and gay curious people watch? I didnt catch the entire movie and didnt see what i hear was an explicit scene in the beginning. Is it wierd to never see gay kissing and making out on tv? after all in this new century we know it exists but we see little of it. just things about gays and maybe a pucker up here and there but not sexuality. or are more shows and movies showing this side of life? it would have been better to hear them speaking enlgish, the accent is hard for francophones though, being cowboy accent and all. Have for the straight guys and lesbians, you gotta admit that the female actors in this movie have healthy busoms, n'est-ce pas?

boys dont cry had several gay kisses and a sex scene(just for the record)

"Sluggy"
Aug 20th, 2006, 07:29 PM
boys dont cry had several gay kisses and a sex scene(just for the record)

I dont really remember it that way. I thought boys dont cry was about the girl who was pretending to be a guy and liked girls. I was just saying it was the first gay movie i've seen. I dont see many movies. I thought it was tasteful, but i didnt see the first sex scene. was it more explicit?

rebel_ffighter
Aug 20th, 2006, 07:34 PM
I dont really remember it that way. I thought boys dont cry was about the girl who was pretending to be a guy and liked girls. I was just saying it was the first gay movie i've seen. I dont see many movies. I thought it was tasteful, but i didnt see the first sex scene. was it more explicit?


yeah,that was the story but this girl also was in a relationship with another and had several gay scenes.I havent seen B.Mountain though so I cant compare them and say which was the more explicit

"Sluggy"
Aug 20th, 2006, 07:37 PM
yeah,that was the story but this girl also was in a relationship with another and had several gay scenes.I havent seen B.Mountain though so I cant compare them and say which was the more explicit


I'm still on a different wavelength, are you saying that boys dont cry had lesbian type scenes in it? But it didnt have male gay scenes? Most men have seen lesbian sex probably at one point in time but surely less have seen gay men kissing and making out. I was not repulsed by it. It was actually interesting to see myself react to it and it was not negative.

rebel_ffighter
Aug 20th, 2006, 07:42 PM
I'm still on a different wavelength, are you saying that boys dont cry had lesbian type scenes in it? But it didnt have male gay scenes? Most men have seen lesbian sex probably at one point in time but surely less have seen gay men kissing and making out. I was not repulsed by it. It was actually interesting to see myself react to it and it was not negative.


yeah,it had one lesbian sex scene.no gay male scenes

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 07:47 AM
so are there other gay movies? Do you think it's wierd we never see gays making out on tv or in movies? what do you'll think?

MrSerenaWilliams
Aug 21st, 2006, 08:56 AM
it's more mainstream to see 2 women having sex with each other than 2 men, but this movie was definately a step in the right direction of equality

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 09:08 AM
it's more mainstream to see 2 women having sex with each other than 2 men, but this movie was definately a step in the right direction of equality

Are there other movies like it? Is it a movie that mostly gay and gay-open people go to see? If so, what good does it do if only those people see it? Was it a successful movie Stateside? :)

Pasta-Na
Aug 21st, 2006, 09:25 AM
It was a good film. Now that I know the title... Since I've never seen any films with gay themes cept for Philadelphia and boys dont cry but they didnt have gay sex, this was the first gay kissing scenes i've ever seen. It was funny to watch but it was fine. Is this a film big in the US and other countries or more just a film that gay people and gay curious people watch? I didnt catch the entire movie and didnt see what i hear was an explicit scene in the beginning. Is it wierd to never see gay kissing and making out on tv? after all in this new century we know it exists but we see little of it. just things about gays and maybe a pucker up here and there but not sexuality. or are more shows and movies showing this side of life? it would have been better to hear them speaking enlgish, the accent is hard for francophones though, being cowboy accent and all. Have for the straight guys and lesbians, you gotta admit that the female actors in this movie have healthy busoms, n'est-ce pas?

What's with the underlines?

sluggy is gay? :eek:

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 09:42 AM
sluggy is gay? :eek:

Not the last time I checked. :)

Grohl
Aug 21st, 2006, 10:21 AM
sluggy is gay? :eek:
:lol:
I think so too!

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 10:30 AM
:lol:
I think so too!

It was cute to see the guys all kissing each other. they obviously had lots of love for each other, which is very nice, and they were emotionally intimate. So in that way, yes it was interesting - i would call it "cute". But i didnt get excited or anything. :rolleyes: Thing is, i fish all the time, like 2-3 times a week, so now when i went fishing after the movie, yeah my spouse rips on me now cause of the fishing. + I dont think i am handsome enought to be gay :p

Grohl
Aug 21st, 2006, 10:42 AM
Dude, you're entire post is about guys kissing each other,
but you end with...
the female actors in this movie have healthy busoms
sounds like a guy in denial to me!

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 10:52 AM
Dude, you're entire post is about guys kissing each other,
but you end with...

Not really, i was asking about other films with a gay theme, and i was interested if people think there are enough films of this nature. that was my angle.

sounds like a guy in denial to me!

In a far off distant way that is possible. I may have identified with gay people when i was a young kid. Everyone feels like the "outsider" at some time in his life, i think so. It might be just feeling "different" and not wanting to deal with responsibilities, etc. And yes, if i have gay feelings i deny them. I dont want a gay relationship so any feelings, albeit minute, i deny and dont explore. :)

Grohl
Aug 21st, 2006, 11:06 AM
Not really, i was asking about other films with a gay theme, and i was interested if people think there are enough films of this nature. that was my angle.
You ended with

Have for the straight guys and lesbians, you gotta admit that the female actors in this movie have healthy busoms, n'est-ce pas?

What's with the underlines?
don't deny it!

In a far off distant way that is possible. I may have identified with gay people when i was a young kid. Everyone feels like the "outsider" at some time in his life, i think so. It might be just feeling "different" and not wanting to deal with responsibilities, etc. And yes, if i have gay feelings i deny them. I dont want a gay relationship so any feelings, albeit minute, i deny and dont explore. :)[/QUOTE]
fair enough

James
Aug 21st, 2006, 11:06 AM
In a far off distant way that is possible. I may have identified with gay people when i was a young kid. Everyone feels like the "outsider" at some time in his life, i think so. It might be just feeling "different" and not wanting to deal with responsibilities, etc. And yes, if i have gay feelings i deny them. I dont want a gay relationship so any feelings, albeit minute, i deny and dont explore. :)

So basically you see gays as outsiders or different. In this thread you seemed to come to the notion that gay love is not different from straight love, but now you start changing things again. And denying gay feelings never is the way, those come back to haunt you anyway.

Grohl
Aug 21st, 2006, 11:20 AM
james, you make it sound like sluggy will be haunted in his dreams :lol:
until he dies... :devil:

James
Aug 21st, 2006, 11:24 AM
james, you make it sound like sluggy will be haunted in his dreams :lol:
until he dies... :devil:

Well, maybe he will, I don't know. :lol: I know all about trying to suppress gay feelings. It does not work and it makes you terribly miserable.

Grohl
Aug 21st, 2006, 11:32 AM
I know bout those feelings!
they come out eitherway, if you like it or not!

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 11:56 AM
So basically you see gays as outsiders or different. In this thread you seemed to come to the notion that gay love is not different from straight love, but now you start changing things again. And denying gay feelings never is the way, those come back to haunt you anyway.

For younger people it may be different, i dont know. But when I was 10 years old homosexuality was pretty taboo, not where i was living really so much, but in most places yes. So gay people were in my view, the outsiders and different, yes. Love is love, i dont see how the emotion of love is different if people are of the same sex.

As for denying feeling gay, i deny it, i dont have gay feelings. My Dr says that all young boys are gay, that's what he said. so if i identified with what i thought was gay when i was a kid, that doesnt mean i was gay. Plus, i didnt know what gay meant. I thought it was for making jokes. :lol: I thought gay was you hugged each other and liked each other a lot and if you did any kind of sex, that it was for jokes. But that girls were for having "real" sex with. :help:

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 11:59 AM
james, you make it sound like sluggy will be haunted in his dreams :lol:
until he dies... :devil:

:lol: i wont be haunted. If it makes me any more gay, i think i did have kinda gay feelings for someone when i was a young kid. It was sort of like a crush, he was funny and rugged and strong and had handsome eyebrows. But my feelings for girls were much stronger, and i dont remember having any feelings towards males after say age 10 or 11 or maybe even 12. But i dont think the feelings were ever "gay" per se. More i just really liked a person, not to have life together or anything. but i really dont remember clearly. :)

nobody has addressed my ? though. Is it funny that we never see male kissing and making out on tv? It is so common, why no tv exposure? does it mean society is homophobic? or they just dont want to see it?

*JR*
Aug 21st, 2006, 03:28 PM
My Dr says that all young boys are gay, that's what he said.
Maybe in France. :p

On a more serious note, your earlier post noting a lot of love is an area where gay culture seems far more "in the closet" than re. explicit sex talk, going by this board, etc. I seem to recall that Harvey Firestein (sp?) sort of broke that mold 20 years ago with Torch Song Trilogy.

But I think the "glbt" (as Griffin would say) community needs to errr, "come out" a lot more with PG type love stories, not just "sex stuff" 2B truly liberated. (This is another reason I support gay marriage, besides equal rights).

"Sluggy"
Aug 21st, 2006, 04:01 PM
Maybe in France. :p

HAHA! you see that, you joked, you're gay.

That's what the DR. said.


On a more serious note, your earlier post noting a lot of love is an area where gay culture seems far more "in the closet" than re. explicit sex talk, going by this board, etc. I seem to recall that Harvey Firestein (sp?) sort of broke that mold 20 years ago with Torch Song Trilogy.

He may have addressed it, but I aint hearing about it. I mean, the message may be out there, i just haven't heard the echos.

But I think the "glbt" (as Griffin would say) community needs to errr, "come out" a lot more with PG type love stories, not just "sex stuff" 2B truly liberated. (This is another reason I support gay marriage, besides equal rights).

Yes absolutely. We don't get the "tender human interest stories" but we get plenty of "who has the cuter ass or nice unit" and plus, of course the newspapers only paint the worst part of the story. We just dont hear about true loves reunited, and about their real fealings for each other as people.. colleagues united by their love for say music, or young people whose loved blossomed over their love of poetry ... etc etc.