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Pureracket
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:30 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/08/16/fox-news-airs-suggestion-_e_27366.html




Yesterday on Fox News' "Dayside," conservative radio host Mike Gallagher proposed that airports institute a "Muslims only" line for airport travelers during a segment Tuesday on racial profiling. Meta, that. From Newshounds (http://www.newshounds.us/2006/08/15/fox_news_airs_call_for_muslimonly_line.php), who "watch FOX so you don't have to": "Dayside" co-host Juliet Huddy set up the debate by noting that all terrorists have been Muslim extremists, and Jerrick claimed that some people oppose racial profiling as "politically incorrect."

"It's not just a matter of political correctness, please," responded [constitutional lawyer Michael] Gross. "It's illegal, it's unconstitutional, unethical, immoral, it shouldn't be done. We do not in this country prejudge a person based upon their race, creed, color, country of national origin and it's wrong to do so and it addition it's not effective. It doesn't work. It actually perpetuates the problem. That is, it separates us."

Gallagher responded that Gross's statements were "absolutely absurd" and claimed that the Traffic Safety Administration is aggressively targeting uniformed members of the military. "Let's have a Muslim-only line," Gallagher said, as Gross started to talk.

Jerrick asked Gallagher to repeat what he said.

"It's time to have a Muslims check-point line in America's airports and have Muslims be scrutinized. You better believe it, it's time," Gallagher said, garnering tepid audience applause.



According to the Newshounds account, despite Gross' clarification above, the debate was framed as a "political correctness" issue rather than one of unconstitutionality.

tennisbum79
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:34 AM
As they themself like to say : " Only on Fox"

marmite1
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:34 AM
Sounds liek an absolutely terrible idea. I thought that America had got past prejudist segregation.

tennisbum79
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:37 AM
I thought Blacks Only and Whites Only signs were things of the past.

But you can count of FOX to bring them back.

Ems__
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:40 AM
I would also demand a Fox news workers airport line, just incase I have to sit next to one of those rambling jerks on the plane.

SelesFan70
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:41 AM
Fuck that! Use seperate planes! :angel:

CJ07
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:43 AM
But then all Al Qaeda would do is recruit American terrorists. Hell its already happening

Its pretty clear that the root of terrorism is in the Middle East though.

Pureracket
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:45 AM
But then all Al Qaeda would do is recruit American terrorists. Hell its already happening

Its pretty clear that the root of terrorism is in the Middle East though.You think so? Tell that to the people who were bombed in the 60s while marching for their rights or the Oklahoma City victims.

tennisbum79
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:46 AM
Att the very beginning of the AIDS epidemic, some right wing coservatives flirted with the idea of putting all homosexual men in quarantine.
Like in a gay colony

CJ07
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:46 AM
Also, thanks for pointing out all the radical leftist crap sprouted on CNN and not singling Fox News out for doing something that every network does.

Diam's
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:46 AM
How can he tell if someone is a muslim or a christian or ... ? :shrug: seems like Mike Gallagher is not very smart :lol:

CJ07
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:48 AM
You think so? Tell that to the people who were bombed in the 60s while marching for their rights or the Oklahoma City victims.
Can you seriously say with a straight face that terrorism isn't concentrated in the Middle-East?

45 years ago is 45 years ago.

Pureracket
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:51 AM
Can you seriously say with a straight face that terrorism isn't concentrated in the Middle-East?

45 years ago is 45 years ago.Honestly(and seriously), I'm not trying to downplay the terrible situation with what's going on here; however, there are other acts of terrorism that are going on in the world and that have been perpetrated on Americans by other Americans. The Mid-East is not the only place who supplies terrorists, regardless of what we hear on television.

CJ07
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:54 AM
That, I agree with.

Martian Willow
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:56 AM
Fuck that! Use seperate planes! :angel:

I thought it said 'Muslim-only Airline'; I was thinking, great idea! :D

tennisbum79
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:56 AM
The IRA is classified as terrorist organization by the British.

The IRA overtly raises money in the US.
So why has not the British prime ministers from Margaret Thatcher to Tony Blair ever raise this issue with the US?

Chris 84
Aug 17th, 2006, 12:58 AM
Also, thanks for pointing out all the radical leftist crap sprouted on CNN and not singling Fox News out for doing something that every network does.

To Europeans, Fox = "right wing maniacs" and CNN = "less biased, but still right of centre"

The left in the USA is equivalent to the centre right in Europe.

Oh, and this is another example of Fox being right wing maniacs.

Pureracket
Aug 17th, 2006, 01:03 AM
To Europeans, Fox = "right wing maniacs" and CNN = "less biased, but still right of centre"

The left in the USA is equivalent to the centre right in Europe.

Oh, and this is another example of Fox being right wing maniacs.This post reads like a word problem from the SAT. . .LOL!!!!!

hablo
Aug 17th, 2006, 01:16 AM
I guess we're back to the segregation days :rolleyes:

Veritas
Aug 17th, 2006, 01:16 AM
I thought America today is way past the segregation phase. Next thing you know, by the time China overtakes its economy, they'll be issuing "Chinese-only" business buildings :tape:

Chris 84
Aug 17th, 2006, 01:28 AM
This post reads like a word problem from the SAT. . .LOL!!!!!

You have a point :o

Volcana
Aug 17th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Also, thanks for pointing out all the radical leftist crap sprouted on CNNAre you insane!?!? CNN leftist!?!? How old are you, 11 years old!?!? CNN does not support one single basic tenet of Marxism. not ONE!!!!

Does the word 'leftist' have any meaning to you? Or is it just a random word meaning 'something vaguely bad' that you learned on Fox.

Can you seriously say with a straight face that terrorism isn't concentrated in the Middle-East?Ask the Japanese. Or the Chileans. Or the Nicaraguans. Or the Russian. Or anybody who lives in East Timor. India. Malaysia. Bali.

Have I missed a continent?

Oh yeah. Poll the world on how many people consider the USA an exporter of terrorism, by way of the College of the Americas (http://www.commondreams.org/views/022500-104.htm).

Terrorism is what?

Using violence against a non-combatant population to achieve political ends.

And you really, seriously think that is concentrated in the Middle-East!?!?

I hope for your sake that's ignorance. Cause if isn't, you're really fucking stupid.

Sally Struthers
Aug 17th, 2006, 02:37 AM
Fuck that! Use seperate planes! :angel:

screw that too.. just fucking sedate everyone besides the pilots :lol:

SJW
Aug 17th, 2006, 02:55 AM
Its pretty clear that the root of terrorism is in the Middle East though.

:awww:
You really aren't that young and naive, are you?

Sam L
Aug 17th, 2006, 04:06 AM
Are you insane!?!? CNN leftist!?!? How old are you, 11 years old!?!? CNN does not support one single basic tenet of Marxism. not ONE!!!!

No. You're the 11 year old! CNN is an American network. And America is NOT communist. So why would an American network support Marxism in any way shape or form? Why should it expected to do so?

Left here means Liberal. As oppose to Right that means Conservative.

You are really clutching at straws. So this is why you said all America media are right wing.

CJ07
Aug 17th, 2006, 05:13 AM
The modern definition of leftist implies liberal or democratic policy. Don't be rediculous.

Also the root of terrorism is not in the middle east, but rather the major concentration of terrorism is in the middle east.

However that doesn't explain ETA in Spain, IRA in Ireland, militant groups in southeast asia, North Korea as a whole, whatever the hell goes on behind closed doors in China, Somalia, etc.

However, relative to American interests, none of those are really all that important. Relatively speaking anyway.

Of the greatest relavance is the concentration in the middle east.

As for CNN vs. Fox News, Fox is more conservative than CNN is liberal, in all honesty; I was exaggerating.

As for Europe, that place is just very much to the left. I believe it is accurate to say that the United Kingdom is pretty conservative relative to its peers in Europe (I may be wrong, but I believe so) and their policy is considered liberal by American standards.

However it should be said that the EU has the most conservative (so to speak) central bank in the world, being entirely independent of domestic concern.

Stark
Aug 17th, 2006, 04:42 PM
Argh.. these people are so dumb that nothing ever surprises me, what is the guarantee that the terrorists won't pose as someone else and go through the regular line, going through a different line clearly decreases their probability of getting through so they might as well pose as someone else and when they can go to flight schools... learn how to fly planes... find new ways of making bombs, faking a passport won't be a big deal for them. And in the end only law abiding muslims would end up going though it. Intelligence is the best way to combat terrorism and like in the case with planned bomb on british airline it is the muslims who tip off the authorities that the extremists are up to something, doing this the authorities want to piss off the majority of the muslims who are opposed to the terrorists and would have otherwise sided with their governments.

I'd say more power to such people :rolleyes:

Pureracket
Aug 17th, 2006, 04:48 PM
What's REALLY interesting about this is those vote-hungry NeoCons are totally isolating the American Muslim community. The two Muslim friends I have are some of the most conservative of my friends.

Helen Lawson
Aug 17th, 2006, 04:52 PM
Regardless of how you feel about the racial issue, it would only be a short-term solution, there are plenty of white or black crazy people who could be lured into it, and I'm certain they are in the process of doing just that.
And, let's get real, I've rarely seen an Arab-type not getting the treatment at an airport. They say they don't, but use your eyes.

Hulet
Aug 17th, 2006, 08:18 PM
I actually support this As Helen Lawson said this sort of thing already goes on; case and point, four of my friends (three with Christian names and one with a muslim name) drove to D.C. from Toronto this past weekend, the scums at the border picked on the one muslim guy and told him to return back - even if all of them have the same sort of documents. With a "muslim only" lane, atleast for once and all, it get rid of this bullsh*t claim that "in the West all are treated equal and fairly."

Volcana
Aug 18th, 2006, 04:02 AM
No. You're the 11 year old! CNN is an American network. And America is NOT communist. So why would an American network support Marxism in any way shape or form? Why should it expected to do so?

Left here means Liberal. As oppose to Right that means Conservative.You have exactly NO sense of the history of the United States. NONE.

Left may mean 'liberal' to YOU, but guess what, you aren't the arbiter of political definition. I say left means communist, right means fascist. This is the traditional definition of 'fascist' as themarriage of government and corporate interests. It's too bad your education is so narrow you don't have a understanding of 'left' and 'right' mean to the entire world, but ignorance is curable, if you want it cured.

Go look at all the political parties that run presidential candidates in the USA. Everything from communist to fascist. Go look up the Nazi Party rallies in New York in the thirties. Yet the communistic party was strong here too. 'Left' and "right' aren't terms without history.

The way YOU define it, Richard Nixon was damn near a communist. He was way to the left of today's Democratic party.

I judge neither Fox not CNN by the standards of the last ten years. I judge them against history. If you haven't the education to do so, shut up. But for God's sake, the last insult someone as naive as you should deliver is somebody ELSE is 'eleven years old'.

Volcana
Aug 18th, 2006, 04:16 AM
The modern definition of leftist implies liberal or democratic policy. Don't be rediculous.Not sure if you're serious or not. It's a big world, though. And I remain aware the China is a communist country, and somewhere between 15% and 20% of the world's population live under that system. So to me, that's 'the left'.

Also the root of terrorism is not in the middle east, but rather the major concentration of terrorism is in the middle east.Hmmmm .... I'm not entirely sure that's even true. But I suppose we'd need an objective definition of 'terrorism' to determine that. I often feel people kind of exempt everything a state does from being terrorism. Ah well, a debate for another thread.
However that doesn't explain ETA in Spain, IRA in Ireland, militant groups in southeast asia, North Korea as a whole, whatever the hell goes on behind closed doors in China, Somalia, etc.

However, relative to American interests, none of those are really all that important. Relatively speaking anyway.

Of the greatest relavance is the concentration in the middle east.A good point.

As for CNN vs. Fox News, Fox is more conservative than CNN is liberal, in all honesty; I was exaggerating.Ah. Okay.

As for Europe, that place is just very much to the left.You seem to be a reasonable person. So where does China fit into this for you? It is a big hunk of the world's population. And they are said to be one major reason for the current run-up in oil prices. Put them in the equation, and how far to the left is, say, France?

GrandSlam05
Aug 18th, 2006, 04:39 AM
If we took all religious people (muslims, christians, etc.) and put them on a huge rocket into outer space, we'd have less problems. Alot less.

firehorse
Aug 18th, 2006, 04:44 AM
I hate FOX news..from Bill O reily...they are all stupid and retarded Republicans...

Martian Willow
Aug 18th, 2006, 05:02 AM
You have exactly NO sense of the history of the United States. NONE.

Left may mean 'liberal' to YOU, but guess what, you aren't the arbiter of political definition. I say left means communist, right means fascist. This is the traditional definition of 'fascist' as themarriage of government and corporate interests. It's too bad your education is so narrow you don't have a understanding of 'left' and 'right' mean to the entire world, but ignorance is curable, if you want it cured.

Go look at all the political parties that run presidential candidates in the USA. Everything from communist to fascist. Go look up the Nazi Party rallies in New York in the thirties. Yet the communistic party was strong here too. 'Left' and "right' aren't terms without history.

The way YOU define it, Richard Nixon was damn near a communist. He was way to the left of today's Democratic party.

I judge neither Fox not CNN by the standards of the last ten years. I judge them against history. If you haven't the education to do so, shut up. But for God's sake, the last insult someone as naive as you should deliver is somebody ELSE is 'eleven years old'.

No, thats Mussolinis definition, and its complete bollocks...as is the rest of your post. :) Fascism comes from fascia, the stick Roman nobleman carried round, it essentially means the subjugation of the individual to the state. This is not something that is exclusive to the right. Do you really think Benito is the best person to look to for a definition of fascism? :lol:

Left here means Liberal. As oppose to Right that means Conservative.

This is basically correct, except that the opposite of conservatism would be an opposition to the status quo.

:wavey:

samsung101
Aug 18th, 2006, 04:26 PM
So, actually, one commentator, not a news anchor, suggested it.
What's the big deal? Have you heard Cafferty or Olberman,they
are hysterical in their comments and suggestions about pretty
much anything....over the top is putting it mildly.

A Muslim or Arab line, is kind of stupid. Well, it is stupid.

But, I think we should just acknowledge one thing: most if not
all the terrorists so far do fit one profile. Let's just accept that,
and address it at airports, train stations, subways, etc.

You have a higher chance of being profiled and checked if you
fit that profile.

I'm brown, dark hair, I stand a better chance of being profiled
as an illegal alien at the border checkpoints than a blonde, blue
eyed person, so what? I may be asked a few more questions,
asked to show more ID, pulled aside, big deal. I know it going in.
If I drive across the San Diego border checkpoint with a van and
dark windows, hey, I stand a great chance of being pulled over
and having my car searched. That's profiling at work.

*JR*
Aug 18th, 2006, 08:09 PM
No, thats Mussolinis definition, and its complete bollocks...as is the rest of your post. :) Fascism comes from fascia, the stick Roman nobleman carried round, it essentially means the subjugation of the individual to the state. This is not something that is exclusive to the right. Do you really think Benito is the best person to look to for a definition of fascism? :lol:

All I know that his granddaughter Alessandra (an Italian MP who's a rather unapologetic Fascist, BTW) is one hot MILF. :drool: