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Steffica Greles
Aug 1st, 2006, 07:22 PM
I think it's because she has such a stress-free game. All her shots have short swings, are perfectly timed and no extra stress goes into the shots. There's no swift turn of the hips or rapid arm/shoulder movement. And she runs for what she can, but seems to walk around the court a lot of the time.

She reminds me a little of Nathalie Tauziat, except that she rarely comes to the net. Tauziat also played past her 34th birthday, including three top ten finishes (97,98,99) and two top 15 (00,01) in her 30s.

I think in today's game you have to have the ability to keep it simple to have a long career. Conchita Martinez also went on to 34 because she had the technical ability, without over exterting herself. Patty Schnyder may be another one.

UDACHi
Aug 1st, 2006, 07:24 PM
interesting.

you're always so insightful. :)

Steffica Greles
Aug 1st, 2006, 07:27 PM
interesting.

you're always so insightful. :)

Ah, thanks. Although, I got a load of early 80s facts wrong in the "upsets" thread a few days ago. So embarrassing. Saw my reputation crash to the floor.;)

Carmen Mairena
Aug 1st, 2006, 07:58 PM
Oh well, today's overhyped-young-blonde-power-players don't even know that tennis was invented before the day they were born... :rolleyes:

Overhyped young blondes have a long way to learn and players as good as Amy can upset them many times! :woohoo:

Overhyped blondes :ras:

faboozadoo15
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:03 PM
amy takes it easy and doesn't overtrain :tape: that's her secret. she makes sure she has time to rest and relax, and she plays her heart out on court to get the wins. she wins a lot of unspectacular points in her matches because she sticks to her game. she uses a lot more angle than power too, and many players aren't used to it. also, she doesn't slam in some crazy first serve. her first and second serve are identical and more about placement than power. in some matches, she averages 98 mph on her first serve and like 95 on her second.

samn
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:09 PM
The other thing about Frazier is that tennis isn't the be all and end all for her. She plans to become a school teacher (teaching maths, no less) after she retires, and she has a very honest outlook on her talent and her accomplishments. I think the absence of a "tennis or nothing" attitude shows in her game - she's grateful to the sport for giving her the opportunity and the financial stability that will enable her to go back to school and acquire the training needed to become a teacher, but at the same time, she's honest enough with herself to recognise and accept that she'll never be a top player.

Karolina_Sprem
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:12 PM
Amy Fraizer is a "rubbish" player. She only does some good results on the hard american summer season...
Sorry for the all Amy's fans but thats just my opinion...

faboozadoo15
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:18 PM
Amy Fraizer is a "rubbish" player. She only does some good results on the hard american summer season...
Sorry for the all Amy's fans but thats just my opinion...
ugh, you make me want to insult klina, who i love.

Steffica Greles
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:24 PM
Amy Fraizer is a "rubbish" player. She only does some good results on the hard american summer season...
Sorry for the all Amy's fans but thats just my opinion...

It's true that she's never been a top ten player, or a contender for any major championship.

But I must point out that, at 34, she's doing very well.

And furthermore, she's been in the top 50 or thereabouts since 1988. That's 18 years!!

And one last thing. Amy was, at one time, a very good player. She was top fifteen in the world in 1995, she won tier 2...I think it was Los Angeles...in 1994(?) and has career wins over Seles, Hingis and Sanchez-Vicario to name but a few.

Karolina_Sprem
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:28 PM
Just because of those reasons she is for me "rubbish" player. She's got talent but its shame that she never put that talent into her game...
She seems to be very nice girl on the tour but her game is... hmmmmmm... lets say not my cup of tea for sure....

Carmen Mairena
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:00 PM
Amy Fraizer is a "rubbish" player. She only does some good results on the hard american summer season...
Sorry for the all Amy's fans but thats just my opinion...

Karolina Sperm is a "rubbish" player!!! You wanted this answer didn't you? :retard:

Karolina_Sprem
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:04 PM
At the moment she is because she has got too many issues in her head...
She's got better game and more talent then Miss Frazier...

samn
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:12 PM
has career wins over Seles, Hingis and Sanchez-Vicario to name but a few.

And Graf, if you count the last comptetitive match Graf played on the WTA Tour in 1999. Come to think of it, it was in the San Diego event!

Wiggly
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:19 PM
Amy Fraizer is a "rubbish" player. She only does some good results on the hard american summer season...
Sorry for the all Amy's fans but thats just my opinion...

She won Quebec City last year. Indoor. And it was freaking cold outside of October :tape:

mauresmofan
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:36 PM
It was so funny listening to what Sam Smith had to say about her at Wimbledon. It was something like "She hasn't changed one bit from the player that turned pro in 1988. Her hair is the same, she dresses the exact same and she walks on court and takes out the only tennis racket she has had since 1988. The girl playing her is thinking this is going to be a walk in the park but Amy Frazier is so steady and hardly makes any unforced errors and before you know it you're walking off court having lost to her and thinking how did that happen!"

Jem
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:46 PM
At the moment she is because she has got too many issues in her head...
She's got better game and more talent then Miss Frazier...

First, Amy Frazier is not one of my favorite players, and I've never cheered for her too much save for one memorable U.S. Open run to the quarterfinals some years ago. I think she took out Pierce. That said, I disagree with you in the comparison to Sprem. Frazier has far more game and talent than anything I've seen from Sprem to date. Amy was a fairly heady player and had very accurate and well struck, flat groundstrokes. Moreover, she demonstrated wonderful consistency, maintaining a top 15/20 ranking for many years and winning big matches on all three surfaces. From what I've seen of Sprem, she's basically a bashing baseliner, who lacks consistency and doesn't seem to have any court sense whatsoever. Of course, she's young and may learn a thing or two in the coming years, but I'd be shocked if she ever put together the solid career that Amy has managed so well for so long.

faboozadoo15
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:00 PM
amy is a legend and a figure every tennis FAN should look to with SOME respect. she's a perfect example of someone who has made a very good living for nearly 20 years doing what she absolutely loves while never having the raw talent of all the flashes in the pan or the girls who couldn't sort out their mental issues. with amy, what you see is what you get. she has such a consistent effort and passion for the game.

no, she's never been a top player or a big story, but she's made millions of dollars doing what she loves while represnenting herself and her country with dignity and class. she's living her dream, and it's been a long one with a great deal of success.

pierce0415
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:03 PM
I'm not a fan of Amy but gotta give her credit for her longevity
plus she had that win over Hingis when Hingis was #1 ... the best match that Amy ever played

fufuqifuqishahah
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:04 PM
Amy Fraizer is a "rubbish" player. She only does some good results on the hard american summer season...
Sorry for the all Amy's fans but thats just my opinion...

No. She has good results on grass too and other events throughout the year.

interesting.

you're always so insightful. :)

so true. =P

Wannabeknowitall
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:13 PM
Amy Frazier's secret is playing a gamestyle that works well at 18 and well at 40.
She goes high risk on her serve but she's one of the best returners out there.
She doesn't move great but she's a hard player to direct winners against because she hits so flat.
She makes some unforced errors but that should happen if a player is playing aggressive tennis and happens to be the underdog in a majority of matches.
It's a great sign for her playing doubles from time to time. I have seen some growth in her net game as well. That will get her back in the top 30. She just has to keep at it.

Jakeev
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:30 PM
There is not secret to Amy Frazier folks. In fact, she has told you in several interviews she still plays the game because it's FUN for her.

She actually goes onto the court, win or lose, and has fun.

As for those that want to downplay her status on tour, why do so? By the time the year is over, she will still have made about $200k and most "stars" can't say that they made that on results alone.

I hope Amy plays as long as she wants to play. I will admit, it drives me nuts as a fan to see her lose in first rounds matches, but with that great attitude she has, I'm just happy to see her still playing.

Steffica Greles
Aug 1st, 2006, 10:32 PM
The other thing about Frazier is that tennis isn't the be all and end all for her. She plans to become a school teacher (teaching maths, no less) after she retires, and she has a very honest outlook on her talent and her accomplishments. I think the absence of a "tennis or nothing" attitude shows in her game - she's grateful to the sport for giving her the opportunity and the financial stability that will enable her to go back to school and acquire the training needed to become a teacher, but at the same time, she's honest enough with herself to recognise and accept that she'll never be a top player.

Excellent point, which is kind of what I meant. She accepts her game as it is and doesn't try to push herself to unsustainable levels, which seems to be what players have to do to reach the top five, ten, or even fifteen in today's game. Hingis, Venus, Serena, Kim, Justine, Lindsay, Maria, Amelie, even going back to Graf and Seles -- they've all suffered so many injuries over the years which have really interrupted or even ruined their careers.

I think Srebotnik will be another one. She doesn't lash the ball or put anything more into her shots than her connection with the ball. Having said that, she'll never reach the top ten for that reason. That's modern tennis.

alfonsojose
Aug 1st, 2006, 11:12 PM
Amy :drool: simple, flat groundies :yeah:

amyfan
Aug 2nd, 2006, 02:15 PM
Amy's success is definately due to her precise flat hitting style, especially off her backhand. Her serve is effective, and a few doubles is better for morale than having winning returns blasted back- a play amy is all too familiar with....Another factor that stands out is Amy's balance. Although not the best mover out there, when in position her weight transfer into the ball is spot on- an absolute joy to watch. Her fighting spirit, owing to her love of playing as mentioned, doesn't hurt either.