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ezekiel
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:11 AM
It seems like very few players are playing to their abilities and others are injured or disinterested . Most winners are there by default as someone has to win. The only "real and active" rivalrly is between Justine and Amelie and that is flaky as well given Justine's long breaks and Amelie's streakiness and mentality. This must be the lowest point of excitement for wta since the spring of '93

hurricanejeanne
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:19 AM
Well, unfortunately, no one can totally control injuries. This year has been subpar because of the injuries to the major players. It seems like as soon as one gets better another one falls, or that players are having issues with consistancy. And that hurts the tour.
Hopefully, one by one the major players get healthy and find their rhythm soon.

Dani12
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:21 AM
no it's not. stop being negative!

Morrissey
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:23 AM
I can't believe I am saying this but the ATP product and brand is much better than the WTA right now. The WTA is boring right now Mauresmo may be no.1 but she's not dominating and neither is Henin Hardenne. The ATP tour has a solid no.1 and no.2 player. Federer and Nadal have captured the public's imagination again. The French Open and Wimbledon actually gained a lot of press coverage in North America because they were both in the finals this usually doesn't take place with tennis.

The WTA's marketing department and the WTA council have failed their players. The WTA isn't paying the players enough money either. Why should someone get excited about a tier I WTA event when the winner only gets something like $186,000 dollars. The winner of a Masters Event on the ATP tour receives $400,000 dollars. The top players don't really have an incentive to play. Also on the ATP tour there are stiff fines and penalities for not playing Masters events without a good explaination. On the WTA they do have fines but clearly not as severe as the ATP tour.

Il Primo!
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:27 AM
ditto

Albireo
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:36 AM
The ATP tour has a solid no.1 and no.2 player.

And precious little else. At least on the WTA, there are "other" contenders, even if it doesn't always seem that way. Federer has lost four times this year-- all to Nadal. The rest of the ATP doesn't even show up.


The WTA's marketing department and the WTA council have failed their players.

Legitimate question, thrown open to the whole forum:

What would you do differently?

Lulu.
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:39 AM
I dont think it is. :confused:

perseus2006
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:42 AM
The future for the WTA is bright and glorious!

For most of the last year, Venus, Serena and Pova have been broken in one way or another and only played in fits and starts. These are the most exciting players in tennis and show it all on the court. All three should be ready to explode for 2007, Venus and Pova perhaps right now. Even with this situation, the WTA tournaments have been more exciting and dramatic than the ATP's.

The oldtimers are regretably done: Lindsay, Mary, Jen, Monica...

But the kids should be starting to raise hell: MashaK, Tati, Ana, ...

And even younger kids behind like Nicole.

The US hardcourt season is going to be amazing for women's tennis, I think. Lots of drama and excitement and surprises.

Fed will win everyting on the men's side, again. He may even be dramatic and smile when he wins the USO! wow. Reminiscent of the halcyon days of Borg when one could count on sleeping through entire matches without missing anything.

tennnisfannn
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:43 AM
You on;y need to look at the SanDiego list of withdrawals and it looks like a tier 2 or even 1 draw in itself.

prowler
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:45 AM
I don't agree either. I think apart from the injuries which maybe does need to be looked into seriously the WTA is providing some really good tennis. I don't like a dominatrice situation, where I can bet on who is going to be in the Final every week.
OK I have my 2 fave players (who I could watch play all day and every day), but this year it's been great to watch many from the #10 and below battle it out for Finals.

The Nadal/Federer thing is boring me already.

Wiggly
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:46 AM
Who is "Pova" :confused:

The US Open is going to be full of drama matches, as usual :D

perseus2006
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:53 AM
Who is "Pova" :confused:

The US Open is going to be full of drama matches, as usual :D

Wiggly,

She's a 19 Year Old kid of some notoriety on the courts. You could easily have missed her if you haven't been paying close attention. Her full name is Maria Sharapova.

IceHock
Jul 30th, 2006, 01:56 AM
Who is "Pova" :confused:

The US Open is going to be full of drama matches, as usual :D


:lol: :lol: .I'm laughing with you :p (your prolly not luaghing though)

Oneofakind0490
Jul 30th, 2006, 02:14 AM
I dont agree. I think its been worst before. Last summer was much worst IMO.

ToeTag
Jul 30th, 2006, 02:18 AM
The WTA is boring right now Mauresmo may be no.1 but she's not dominating and neither is Henin Hardenne. I don't think they're boring, and so what if they're not dominating. That was always the knock against women's tennis; one or two players always dominated.

If someone were dominating, everyone would be complaining about that! The chicks can't win.

Martian Stacey
Jul 30th, 2006, 02:24 AM
I can't believe I am saying this but the ATP product and brand is much better than the WTA right now. The WTA is boring right now Mauresmo may be no.1 but she's not dominating and neither is Henin Hardenne. The ATP tour has a solid no.1 and no.2 player. Federer and Nadal have captured the public's imagination again. The French Open and Wimbledon actually gained a lot of press coverage in North America because they were both in the finals this usually doesn't take place with tennis.

The WTA's marketing department and the WTA council have failed their players. The WTA isn't paying the players enough money either. Why should someone get excited about a tier I WTA event when the winner only gets something like $186,000 dollars. The winner of a Masters Event on the ATP tour receives $400,000 dollars. The top players don't really have an incentive to play. Also on the ATP tour there are stiff fines and penalities for not playing Masters events without a good explaination. On the WTA they do have fines but clearly not as severe as the ATP tour.
I'd rather have tournaments where you don't know who will win, then 2 dominating players that will always play each other in the final.

Also, i'm not sure what the prizemoney has to do with it :confused: Yes, there is an argument that they pay should be equal, but that has nothing to do with the quality of play on each tour.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jul 30th, 2006, 02:28 AM
I donīt think so , actually our top 10 is better than the ATP top 10 .

Examples :
Ljubo ---27 years old , 5 small titles , 1 Grand Slam SF and he was 3 of the world . A real shame
Blake --- 0nly 1 good year in his career .
Ancic --- 2 ATP titles :rolleyes:
Robredo --- 3 ATP titles and he is so :yawn:
Stepanek --- 27 years old , 1 ATP title . Nothing more to say


WTA Rulz!!!

vogus
Jul 30th, 2006, 05:23 AM
It seems like very few players are playing to their abilities and others are injured or disinterested . Most winners are there by default as someone has to win. The only "real and active" rivalrly is between Justine and Amelie and that is flaky as well given Justine's long breaks and Amelie's streakiness and mentality. This must be the lowest point of excitement for wta since the spring of '93


it's been getting worse and worse for 3 years now. How much worse can it get? No new players, and the older stars seem disinterested in the game and they're always claiming "injury" to withdraw from event after event...

Whatever. There has to be SOMEBODY out there in the world of women's tennis who wants to win titles and make money. Good lord. It's pathetic. If i were a woman i would be out there playing myself to take advantage of the situation.

Morrissey
Jul 30th, 2006, 05:33 AM
Prize money could be used as an incentive for some players. On the WTA the tier I event prize money hasn't moved up much since 1992. In 1992 the winner of a tier I event got $100,000 dollars now its just $186,000 dollars. Now if the WTA tier I events paid the winner $300,000 dollars or more I am sure more top players would show up because more money was being offered. Also tier II event prize money moved up slightly from $70,000 in 1992 to around $93,000 now. When I think the tier II prize money should be for the winner around $140,000 or something like that. The more money on the table the more motivated the players will be to play. Its all about paying that cash.

perseus2006
Jul 30th, 2006, 05:34 AM
... If i were a woman i would be out there playing myself to take advantage of the situation.

Vogus, if you were a woman you would be too ugly to play!

vogus
Jul 30th, 2006, 05:41 AM
Vogus, if you were a woman you would be too ugly to play!


no, you're getting me confused with your mother. :p

Martian Stacey
Jul 30th, 2006, 05:48 AM
Prize money could be used as an incentive for some players. On the WTA the tier I event prize money hasn't moved up much since 1992. In 1992 the winner of a tier I event got $100,000 dollars now its just $186,000 dollars. Now if the WTA tier I events paid the winner $300,000 dollars or more I am sure more top players would show up because more money was being offered. Also tier II event prize money moved up slightly from $70,000 in 1992 to around $93,000 now. When I think the tier II prize money should be for the winner around $140,000 or something like that. The more money on the table the more motivated the players will be to play. Its all about paying that cash.
Most of the top players are worth millions. I don't think a little bit more prizemoney will make much difference to them.

And its not going to effect the rivalries between players, which is what the thread starter thinks the tour is lacking.

perseus2006
Jul 30th, 2006, 05:54 AM
no, you're getting me confused with your mother. :p

Mom didn't play tennis, either!

vejh
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:06 AM
There is a lack of consistency on the tour. And the tour needs a rivalry or 2. usually one or the other of the rivals is a no-show.

BTW, what was the ratings for Wimby finals this year? If I am not mistaken it was higher than last.

I do agree that the WTA marketing is crap. Horrible. WE need to get rid of Larry Scott. He keeps marketing the Williams and whatever blonde girl comes along (right now it's Sharapova). But Venus and Serena are plagued by injuries, so one can't center the tour around them. Sharapova is not going all the way into tournies so you can't plan around her all the time.

Nadal and Fed are consistent and the top 2 players, plus they play good tennis. Nobody wants to tune in to see the women hitting error after error, ball bashing, no strategy, no fight etc.

Let's promote our top 3 women (they're around pretty much all the time and they can play tennis by and large). I think that's a start.

DutchieGirl
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:08 AM
Prize money could be used as an incentive for some players. On the WTA the tier I event prize money hasn't moved up much since 1992. In 1992 the winner of a tier I event got $100,000 dollars now its just $186,000 dollars. Now if the WTA tier I events paid the winner $300,000 dollars or more I am sure more top players would show up because more money was being offered. Also tier II event prize money moved up slightly from $70,000 in 1992 to around $93,000 now. When I think the tier II prize money should be for the winner around $140,000 or something like that. The more money on the table the more motivated the players will be to play. Its all about paying that cash.

:haha:

DutchieGirl
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:09 AM
I'd rather have tournaments where you don't know who will win, then 2 dominating players that will always play each other in the final.

Also, i'm not sure what the prizemoney has to do with it :confused: Yes, there is an argument that they pay should be equal, but that has nothing to do with the quality of play on each tour.

Of course... having 5 or more players in a tourney who could win it is so much more boring than only having 2 players who are winning all the time. ;)

perseus2006
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:20 AM
Mary Jo Fernandez was the commentator today for the women's Semi's. She actually talked up the good points and strengths of each player. Talked about their match strategy. Talked about what was working tactically. How thay changed throughout the match. It was very interesting, the matches were pretty good even if they ended up a bit one sided.

Mary Jo also talked up the US Open Series concept, told the audience what it was all about, when they could see the finals and how it all came together at the USO. It was a really good sales job!!!

The WTA needs more of Mary Jo!!! And absolutely nothing of the McEnroes and Carillo.

PMac did not sell tennis or the players during his stint on the men's semi this afternoon. Cliff did a little but not as well as MJF.

Carillo was not present - yeah! Hopefully she went to England with BG. The tabloids over there are a perfect professional fit for her.

We need a lot more of MJF!!!

Albireo
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:36 AM
We need a lot more of MJF!!!


Actually, she would be a better choice for a position of influence in the WTA; she's highly respected by Tour officials, and she's always interacted well with the players. There's no doubt that the Tour needs better leadership, and MJF would do well in a WTA office. (Many would say that it would kill two birds with one stone by also getting her out of broadcasting.)

LucasArg
Jul 30th, 2006, 07:41 AM
The tour level is really low right now. It has been a really weird season. I hope it changes soon before the end of the season.

Plus, the tennis has been pretty poorly with just a few exceptions.

DutchieGirl
Jul 30th, 2006, 07:42 AM
The tour level is really low right now. It has been a really weird season. I hope it changes soon before the end of the season.

Plus, the tennis has been pretty poorly with just a few exceptions.

:scratch: I don't think so.

perseus2006
Jul 30th, 2006, 08:02 AM
The tour level is really low right now. It has been a really weird season. I hope it changes soon before the end of the season.

Plus, the tennis has been pretty poorly with just a few exceptions.

Given the overall success of So American players, I can understand that you feel as disappointed as Venus and Serena supporters.

The WTA is shaping up for a great finish to a good year with Pova, Venus and maybe Serena back in play. 2007 prospects are even better.

DutchieGirl
Jul 30th, 2006, 08:08 AM
Given the overall success of So American players, I can understand that you feel as disappointed as Venus and Serena supporters.

The WTA is shaping up for a great finish to a good year with Pova, Venus and maybe Serena back in play. 2007 prospects are even better.

See, that's the thing - everyone has different faves, so while for some people the WTA Tour might sucks right now, for others it's still fine! :D

PLP
Jul 30th, 2006, 08:13 AM
See, that's the thing - everyone has different faves, so while for some people the WTA Tour might sucks right now, for others it's still fine! :D
I think it's been a great season so far! Martina is back and I can't complain...I would love for Venus, Serena, Davenport, etc., to start playng regularly again, and they will, but they tour is very deep right now, very deep indeed!

Martian Stacey
Jul 30th, 2006, 08:18 AM
Of course... having 5 or more players in a tourney who could win it is so much more boring than only having 2 players who are winning all the time. ;)
Yes, how did i not realise that before? :lol:

Martian Stacey
Jul 30th, 2006, 08:19 AM
See, that's the thing - everyone has different faves, so while for some people the WTA Tour might sucks right now, for others it's still fine! :D
Exactly!

And for the Americans, a lot of them are probably bored with tennis right now because we have been missing the likes of Davenport and the Williams sisters. But for other countries, lets say Russia for example, the WTA Tour is great for them right now.

DutchieGirl
Jul 30th, 2006, 09:26 AM
I think it's been a great season so far! Martina is back and I can't complain...I would love for Venus, Serena, Davenport, etc., to start playng regularly again, and they will, but they tour is very deep right now, very deep indeed!

err yes - that was my point - the season's been fine for me too! ;)

DutchieGirl
Jul 30th, 2006, 09:26 AM
Yes, how did i not realise that before? :lol:

I don't know - silly you! ;)

DutchieGirl
Jul 30th, 2006, 09:27 AM
Exactly!

And for the Americans, a lot of them are probably bored with tennis right now because we have been missing the likes of Davenport and the Williams sisters. But for other countries, lets say Russia for example, the WTA Tour is great for them right now.

Sure, but I'll bet even the Americans have some faves from other countries too. ;)

goldenlox
Jul 30th, 2006, 05:51 PM
I think the tour is very entertaining now.
The Wimbledon final was a huge match.

The US Open seems very open.

The tv coverage is awful-
Wimbledon semis on delayed tape, etc.,
but the product is excellent

Poova
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:10 PM
Tennis is great at the moment. It's very competitive and no event is completely predictable unlike the ATP Tour where Federer wins every event he turns up to unless he meets Nadal then he might struggle. :o

I think people on here need to move on and stop living in the past - Serena and Venus ain't as dominant as they once were and Davenport is reaching the end of her career. Go enjoy the awesome young prospects around at the moment. :)

hablo
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:15 PM
:yawn::yawn::yawn:

burt
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:30 PM
injury, players not playing to potential this just excuse excuse excuse

when player like amelie mauresmo can win wimbledon wta tour is poor

IceHock
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:35 PM
I think thw wta is in good shape.Hingis is back,Dokic is at least trying,hopefully Jcap can come back as well,but besides the injuries this year is shaping out pretty good.

burt
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:37 PM
I think thw wta is in good shape.Hingis is back,Dokic is at least trying,hopefully Jcap can come back as well,but besides the injuries this year is shaping out pretty good.
:haha:

IceHock
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:39 PM
:haha:


Like anyone would take ur posts seriously,go back under your bridge.

burt
Jul 30th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Like anyone would take ur posts seriously,go back under your bridge.
:haha:

tennisboi
Jul 30th, 2006, 09:08 PM
I can't believe I am saying this but the ATP product and brand is much better than the WTA right now. The WTA is boring right now Mauresmo may be no.1 but she's not dominating and neither is Henin Hardenne. The ATP tour has a solid no.1 and no.2 player. Federer and Nadal have captured the public's imagination again. The French Open and Wimbledon actually gained a lot of press coverage in North America because they were both in the finals this usually doesn't take place with tennis.

The WTA's marketing department and the WTA council have failed their players. The WTA isn't paying the players enough money either. Why should someone get excited about a tier I WTA event when the winner only gets something like $186,000 dollars. The winner of a Masters Event on the ATP tour receives $400,000 dollars. The top players don't really have an incentive to play. Also on the ATP tour there are stiff fines and penalities for not playing Masters events without a good explaination. On the WTA they do have fines but clearly not as severe as the ATP tour.

My thoughts exactly

goldenlox
Jul 31st, 2006, 03:28 PM
The WTA is not dying. But in the USA, tennis is becoming a very, very minor sport

fufuqifuqishahah
Jul 31st, 2006, 04:40 PM
wta needs to fix its entry list / withdrawal system.

but more importantly -- WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS COACHING SHIT. I really hope it fails. =)

TonyP
Jul 31st, 2006, 05:44 PM
Right now, the WTA is in fairly bad shape. The men's side has had its problems, too, with Agassi, one of its biggest draws, retiring soon with not all that much fanfare, although there will be plenty at the Open. But right now, the ATP has one of the best rivarlries in sports, Roger and Rafael, two wildly talented players, both of whom are winning.

The WTA has fallen on to hard times because the women who are winning right now, Mauresmo, Henin-Hardenne and Clijsters, essentially have no charisma and two of the top players with charisma, Venus and Serena, continue to embarass themselves and the tour with their constant withdrawals from tournaments. Now, they have both been publicly chastised in the press, the same week actress Lindsay Lohan was branded a spoiled brat for not living up to her responsibilities, either. It all looks bad.

The WTA needs new blood, needs Sharapova to start winning tournaments regularly, needs Hingis (one of the biggest stories in women's tennis this year) to start winning, too.

Without these headliners, the sport is sinking like a stone.

Carmen Mairena
Jul 31st, 2006, 07:59 PM
I'll tell you in September. If Kim wins the U.S. Open series once again then there's REALLY a problem with the WTA Tour.

DutchieGirl
Aug 1st, 2006, 06:03 AM
The WTA has fallen on to hard times because the women who are winning right now, Mauresmo, Henin-Hardenne and Clijsters, essentially have no charisma and two of the top players with charisma, Venus and Serena, continue to embarass themselves and the tour with their constant withdrawals from tournaments. Now, they have both been publicly chastised in the press, the same week actress Lindsay Lohan was branded a spoiled brat for not living up to her responsibilities, either. It all looks bad.


:haha: wtf are you on?

switz
Aug 1st, 2006, 07:16 AM
yes it is quite bad.

goldenlox
Aug 1st, 2006, 03:33 PM
The WTA is in great shape. There are a whole group of teens who play well and look
great.
In the US, all of tennis is dead.
But Doha wants to throw millions at the WTA

vogus
Aug 1st, 2006, 05:14 PM
Right now, the WTA is in fairly bad shape. The men's side has had its problems, too, with Agassi, one of its biggest draws, retiring soon with not all that much fanfare, although there will be plenty at the Open. But right now, the ATP has one of the best rivarlries in sports, Roger and Rafael, two wildly talented players, both of whom are winning.

The WTA has fallen on to hard times because the women who are winning right now, Mauresmo, Henin-Hardenne and Clijsters, essentially have no charisma and two of the top players with charisma, Venus and Serena, continue to embarass themselves and the tour with their constant withdrawals from tournaments. Now, they have both been publicly chastised in the press, the same week actress Lindsay Lohan was branded a spoiled brat for not living up to her responsibilities, either. It all looks bad.

The WTA needs new blood, needs Sharapova to start winning tournaments regularly, needs Hingis (one of the biggest stories in women's tennis this year) to start winning, too.

Without these headliners, the sport is sinking like a stone.



Huh?? Sharapova, Hingis, and for that matter, the Williams sisters, are simply not the best players in women's tennis now. It won't be that surprising if NONE of these 4 players ever win a Grand Slam tournament again. To say that only these four players can save the WTA from "sinking" is pretty stupid and is certainly living in the past. The time of Hingis and the Williams dominating the tour is over. Forever. People need to deal with it. And Sharapova, while a very good player, could end up being a 1-Slam wonder or at best winning 2-3 more in her career. Women's tennis has to work with the players it has got.

Jem
Aug 1st, 2006, 06:45 PM
Say what you will about marketing and money, but this long-time fan of women's tennis find today's game just downright boring. I haven't seen an outstanding women's match all year. It's just an ugly slugfest, with multiple errors and the occasional winner. Federer and Nadal may be dominating the men's game, but the men's tour is producing some spectacular tennis and great points to watch. In 35 years of watching tennis, I've never seen such a low caliber of play from the women compared with the men. If the women had some interesting rivalries, maybe I could overlook the sloppy play on court. But there's not a single decent rivalry and, in fact, the top players are sidelined so often that it's hard to get excited about the occasional tournament where they do show up. Here's hoping women's tennis can find some stars with staying power and real game.

TonyP
Aug 1st, 2006, 07:37 PM
Jem. Well put and my sentiments exactly.

I mentioned Hingis and Sharapova as two stars with strong fan appeal. Hingis obviously is not a long term solution for the sport, since I don't expect her to play for more than about another three or four years. Sharapova is still a teen, so she could easily be around for ten years, but I don't think she will stay that long.

Are these girls, or Venus and Serena, the top players today? Maria is one of them, Martina is still working on it. I have no idea right now what will happen with the Williams sisters, but I wouldn't make either of them a favorite right now at the US Open.

The rest of the top players are simply not people who have captured the public's imagination, at least, not here in America.

And Jem's complaints about poor quality tennis is something I have been hammering about for several years now. We've had pretty good Wimbledon finals, at least, not blow outs. But most of the rest of the slam singles finals lately have been embarrassments.

The quality of tennis among the women has plummeted, and so has the competitiveness. Slam finals are more often than not blow outs.

Meanwhie, the pull outs from tournaments go on and on and on. Is there any wonder that the tournament organizers are complaining publicly? And the news that they tried to sell San Diego and couldn't find any takers should send a shock wave through the WTA. Rather than complaining about equal pay, the women should be talking about equal quality, and they are a long way from the men in that category.

vogus
Aug 1st, 2006, 08:08 PM
Say what you will about marketing and money, but this long-time fan of women's tennis find today's game just downright boring. I haven't seen an outstanding women's match all year. It's just an ugly slugfest, with multiple errors and the occasional winner. Federer and Nadal may be dominating the men's game, but the men's tour is producing some spectacular tennis and great points to watch. In 35 years of watching tennis, I've never seen such a low caliber of play from the women compared with the men. If the women had some interesting rivalries, maybe I could overlook the sloppy play on court. But there's not a single decent rivalry and, in fact, the top players are sidelined so often that it's hard to get excited about the occasional tournament where they do show up. Here's hoping women's tennis can find some stars with staying power and real game.


there is no question that women's tennis is in a rut compared to the period of the late '90s and early '00s when there were a lot of young exciting players as well as older stars.

The biggest problem is that new players and rivalries have failed to materialize over a period of several years. Whether that's due to the age restriction or bad marketing or just bad luck, is hard to say. I don't think it's bad for the sport that Mauresmo or Clisters is #1. What makes the situation bad is that there just isn't a whole lot of shaking going on, not a lot of great matches at the top. It's stagnation, kind of an "i'll scratch your back, you scratch mine" situation among the top 10 or 15 players now.

perseus2006
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:00 PM
Vogus, you and your fellow "doom and gloom"posters, are listening too much to Carillo and the McEnroes. You are parroting them as if brainwashed and indoctrinated into a cult!

It's been a tough year for the WTA in terms of injuries, with that I can agree. However, the tennis I have watched has been good on both sides. IMO, better on the women's side than on the men's. The women's side is wide open every tournament, every match. Good arguements can be made for at least 10 girls to win the USO! It's going to be fun to see who does it.

On the men's side, Fed will win. Federer is truely great but also very boring with the personality and charisma of a rock. Rafa's fun but can only win on clay. None of the other men play for titles!!!

The biggest and most interesting developing stories center on Pova and Roddick. Pova's healthy, talking smart, playing better and lets see if she can play some inspired tennis through the USO. I don't think Pova's played a warmup for a slam in the last year! Except Birmingham.

Roddick working with Jimmy Connors is great news. Lets see if Roddick can pick up a little "edge", confidence and swagger from the aging legend and go out on the court and actually challenge Fed!!! *then of course roddick has to go and break something just as they get started, aaarrrgh*

If these two come through in the USO, then this will be a massively exciting year of tennis.

vogus
Aug 1st, 2006, 09:22 PM
Vogus, you and your fellow "doom and gloom"posters, are listening too much to Carillo and the McEnroes. You are parroting them as if brainwashed and indoctrinated into a cult!




that's the ultimate insult. You know i hate Mary Carillo's ignoramus-speak as much as any tennis fan alive. :fiery:

goldenlox
Aug 2nd, 2006, 03:14 PM
I think the product that the WTA has is tremendous, but in the US, tennis is dead.
The WTA has to take the revenue from outside the US, and the USTA's money too.

But they have to play the PLAYERS.
Forget $225,000 - it should be at least double that