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Cator
Jul 17th, 2006, 11:48 PM
Deja Vu by Beyonce : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H31_-qtZGY4

Ain't No Other Man by Christina Aguilera : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEnuxiVSFqw

Viktymise
Jul 17th, 2006, 11:55 PM
I kinda prefer Christina's song but prefer Beyonce's video, the songs are actually quiet similar, same kinda genre same kinda tempo aswell same kinda music, there both good tho :D

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 17th, 2006, 11:57 PM
SASHA

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/ronc831/beyoncesashasiggy6xu.jpg
:worship:

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:00 AM
Ok, well I love both Beyonce and Christina, but this new Christina sound is more exciting for me.

I think Beyonce's dancing is very shakira like in her video and not too original... Deja Vu is a great song though.

I like more Christina's video because it's freash, new and represents old school so well. Ain't No Other Man is a very catchy song and has amazing old school elements. Christina's voice is just amazing as always.

Two great videos though, so this thread should be interesting.

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:01 AM
Beyonce's dancing is not no damn boring ass Shakira mess, it's african tribal\creol thank you very much.

new-york
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:04 AM
Beyonce's dancing is not no damn boring ass Shakira mess, it's african tribal\creol thank you very much.

Bee's vid. X-tina's song.

new-york
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:04 AM
Beyonce's dancing is not no damn boring ass Shakira mess, it's african tribal\creol thank you very much.

lolz.

Ferosh
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:06 AM
Christina's by far!

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:07 AM
Christina is no doubt a better singer, where as Beyonce is a better dancer... but I actually prefer Christina's dancing over Beyonce in these two videos...

At least Christina looks human, lol.

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:09 AM
Christina is not a better singer, if she was then she would have 9 Grammy's and she would have won 5 Grammy's in one night!

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:09 AM
Hell I didn't see any dancing in Aint' no other man, that stiff shit she was doing is not dancing.

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:10 AM
Christina is a better singer, lol...

Have you seen Christina do ANOM live? It's crazy amazing.

Beyonce lipped perts of Deja Vu live because she was dancing so much, but she didn;t sound nearly as good as Christina when she was singing.

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:11 AM
Have you seen Dangerously in love live at the Grammy's? Much better than an Christina vocal!

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Christina has and will always live in the shadow is better performers, she did it with Britney, and now Beyonce will outshine her this year. :)

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Lol, was that Beyonce's best vocal performance? If so, that's nothing compare to what I can show you of Miss Aguilera.

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Now don't get me wrong, it's a good song. I like Christina, it's just nobody can lay a hand on SASHA!

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Christina has and will always live in the shadow is better performers, she did it with Britney, and now Beyonce will outshine her this year. :)


Vocal wise, Britney is not at Christina's level, nor Beyonce.

Freakan
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:13 AM
Go Chrissy! :rocker:

LeRoy.
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:13 AM
Beyonce - whats w/ the shrieking ?:scared: looking hot though.

I like Christina's song/music video better

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:13 AM
Beyonce's dancing is not no damn boring ass Shakira mess, it's african tribal\creol thank you very much.
The girl looks possessed. As I said while watching the video, Beyonce if you can't do it right then it give it back to the Africans.
Beyonce video is trifling. Let's get it out of your head that Beyonce can dance, she can't. The song has actually gone down the charts since the video has been out while Christina's song went up the charts once the video came out. You can check the Billboard Hot 100 for that info. The Beyonce video is an advertisment for her overhype overexpensive fashion line. Another advertisment for her celebrity link-up with Jay-Z. She also needs to stop doing the DELTA sign ok. She did not make that up nor is she an honorary DELTA. That is a sorority sign and she is not apart of that sorority. The Delta Sigma Theta sorority has some big influence in every field you can dream of, they are not ones to mess with.
Beyonce just comes off generic and fake in her video while Christina Aguilera comes off genuinely serious about this new jazz style she is embracing in her music.

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:15 AM
Ain't no other man LIVE for those interested...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV3KCLYDhiY
I think this song is better live.

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:16 AM
Child boo, Are you really trying to say Ain't no other man will outperform Deja Vu? LMFAO

Oh and two people stood up for Christina, were as Beyonce had the entire room.

LeRoy.
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:17 AM
Child bull, Are you really trying to say Ain't no other man will outperform Deja Vu? LMFAO

R u J-Baby ?:o :eek: :wavey: :angel:

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:18 AM
Child boo, Are you really trying to say Ain't no other man will outperform Deja Vu? LMFAO

Oh and two people stood up for Christina, were as Beyonce had the entire room.


well, it already is my friend...

ANOM is already number 7 on the hot 100 chart and Deja Vi is 30 something I think.

Both songs came out around the same time too.,

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:20 AM
Deja Vu, is Number 7 on airplay already, Deja Vu will be the official song of the summer, and Sasha' fifth number 1 :)

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:21 AM
BB top 100 chart is the most important one though, and Beyonce isn't doing that great there. Christina is beating her by a large number.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:23 AM
well, it already is my friend...

ANOM is already number 7 on the hot 100 chart and Deja Vi is 30 something I think.

Both songs came out around the same time too.,
Deja Vu is 34 this week. It went down a spot after the video came out last week. :tape: There's one outlet she's hoping will put the song at number one. I call it the Rihanna trick. It's called that because Rihanna used it first and her song was in the 30s on the Billboard Hot 100 before she put the single out only in downloads. She went to number one. Beyonce could likely get to the top 10 that way but it won't be enough to get her to number one.

Brooks.
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:25 AM
Christina has and will always live in the shadow is better performers, she did it with Britney, and now Beyonce will outshine her this year. :)

lmao. Christina is actual artist. Britney is and always will be a product. Beyonce is uber talented but vocally she isn't even close to Christina. I'm not even sure this Beyonce album is going to be that great. I heard she did it in like a month or something :tape: . Both cd's will probably sell really well but we'll see who walks away with the Grammys next year. :)

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:26 AM
I hope Christina releases either CandyMan or SlowDown Baby as the next single.

I can't wait for her album, every song I herd so far has been amazing.

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:27 AM
You do realise that every song Beyonce released on DIL all peaked in the Top 5! Deja Vu is well on it's way.

Crazy in Love-1
03 Bonnie and Clide-4
Baby Boy-1
Check on it-1
Me Myself and I-4
Naughty Girl-3

:worship:

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:27 AM
Christina's new CD has been in the works for almost 2 years. It's a double album.

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:28 AM
You do realise that every song Beyonce released on DIL all peaked in the Top 5! Deja Vu is well on it's way.

Crazy in Love-1
03 Bonnie and Clide-4
Baby Boy-1
Check on it-1
Me Myself and I-4
Naughty Girl-3

:worship:


That's nice and all, but this doesn't mean Beyonce is a better artist than Christina.

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:31 AM
Oh and she sold over 50 million albums with Destiny's Child, throw in 11 million copies of Dangerously in love, and you get one bad bitch! Thank You!

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:31 AM
You also need to realize something, Christina is an artist that changes her sound every album she's releasing. So far, her back to basics sound has been getting the best reviews. After the song I herd, I won't be surprised at all if this is her best album yet.

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:31 AM
I'm going to have to start my own thread lol

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:32 AM
Oh and she sold over 50 million albums with Destiny's Child, throw in 11 million copies of Dangerously in love, and you get one bad bitch! Thank You!


You do know Christina is about at that number too right? And Stripped outsold Beyonce's last album worldwide.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:32 AM
both songs suck, but i'll go with Beyoncé's video because she is hot!! (Even though her vid does seem quite cheap :o )

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:34 AM
Child boo, don't be hating on Bee and X-tina they are bringing it. It will be nice to see who wins the battle. Both Cd of course will go Number 1, but which will sell more, and which will produce the most hits?? Oh and Beyonce did her album in two weeks, not a month.

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:34 AM
Lmfa Two Weeks?

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:35 AM
Is anyone interested in the Back To Basics tracks so far? I can post em here, but I already did in a Christina thread, many of them are radio rips and not too good quality.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:37 AM
You do realise that every song Beyonce released on DIL all peaked in the Top 5! Deja Vu is well on it's way.

Crazy in Love-1
03 Bonnie and Clide-4
Baby Boy-1
Check on it-1
Me Myself and I-4
Naughty Girl-3

:worship:
You forgot to add Beyonce's first single "Work It Out" before DIL. I wonder why that is. Maybe it's because you know it sucked. :tape: I will say this when your Christmas song becomes a hit single on the Billboard charts and bigger than many artists wish their single would ever be then you are doing something really amazing.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:39 AM
Is anyone interested in the Back To Basics tracks so far? I can post em here, but I already did in a Christina thread, many of them are radio rips and not too good quality.
Post them again. :hearts: I never got a chance to listen to my girl. I remember the first time I listened to Christina. June 30, 1999. I heard Genie in a Bottle for the first time and I was just grooving.

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Btw, watch this guys, this lizard reminds me of one of the scenes in Deja Vu video ... lmfao.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwYACLMlhJg

Brooks.
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:40 AM
You forgot to add Beyonce's first single "Work It Out" before DIL. I wonder why that is. Maybe it's because you know it sucked. :tape: I will say this when your Christmas song becomes a hit single on the Billboard charts and bigger than many artists wish their single would ever be then you are doing something really amazing.

I assume you're talking about Christina's christmas cd and not that crap cd DC put out a couple of years that completely bombed :o

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Post them again. :hearts: I never got a chance to listen to my girl. I remember the first time I listened to Christina. June 30, 1999. I heard Genie in a Bottle for the first time and I was just grooving.

K, give me 5 minuts ok?

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:43 AM
I assume you're talking about Christina's christmas cd and not that crap cd DC put out a couple of years that completely bombed :o
No I'm just talking about The Christmas Song from Christina. I love Christina but that album wasn't bad but it wasn't good either. She rapped and then she would not stop her runs. The girl made Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas 2 minutes longer than it had to be because of her runs.

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:46 AM
''Slow Down Baby'' radio quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWIEpzC9LTg

''CandyMan'' radio quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9vXyvkaz3I

A clip of her pepsi ad with her song ''Here to Stay'' which is also an album track. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmmR0tm6dg (ingore those stupid cell phone sound effecs)


Christina did a MTV Special and she performed two new songs from the album live. The music and sound quality isn't that good, but you get the sound, and it sounds fantastic.

''Oh Mother'': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2vysKcYjE
''Understand'': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiBHqz8pNSI

and you already know ain't no other man.

I got trouble is also a song and there is a clip of it at the starting and ending of ain't no other man video.

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:47 AM
Work it Out wasn't released in the U.S

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:47 AM
Back To Basics tracklist:

Tracklist for Back To Basics....

Disc 1

1. "Intro (Back To Basics)" (01:47)
2. "Makes Me Wanna Pray" (04:10)
3. "Back In The Day" (04:13)
4. "Ain't No Other Man" (03:49)
5. "Understand" (03:46)
6. "Slow Down Baby" (03:27)
7. "Oh Mother" (03:45)
8. "F.U.S.S (Interlude)" (02:21)
9. "On Our Way" (03:37)
10. "Without You" (03:57)
11. "Still Dirrty" (03:46)
12. "Here To Stay" (03:19)
13. "Thank You (Dedication To Fans)" (04:59)

Disc 2

1. "Enter The Circus" (01:42)
2. "Welcome" (02:42)
3. "Candyman" (03:14)
4. "Nasty Naughty Boy" (04:45)
5. "I Got Trouble" (03:42)
6. "Hurt" (04:03)
7. "Mercy On Me" (04:32)
8. "Save Me From Myself" (03:13)
9. "The Right Man" (03:52)
10. "Back To Basics (Video)" (10:07)

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:51 AM
Work it Out wasn't released in the U.S
Actually it was. :tape: If you're going to be a fan of someone know the facts please. This is from a Beyonce site.

"She also recorded a song and produced a music video, called "Work It Out", for the movie soundtrack. "Work It Out" was a top 10 hit in the UK and a top 40 hit in the Netherlands, Australia, and Ireland, despite being Beyoncé's biggest flop to date in her home country; in America, radio barely played the song and the video received very minor exposure, only on digital video channels, MTV Jams and VH1 Soul."

It was released in America on the radio and didn't get any exposure. I will say a lot of people on American Idol like performing that song and if they can sing it they usually make it to Hollywood at least. That's one good thing about that song. The bad thing is it flopped.

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:52 AM
give out feedback once you're done listening to the clips, I'd love to hear from ya.

Il Primo!
Jul 18th, 2006, 12:55 AM
Beyonce's vid AND song all the way!!

X-tina?! :shrug: The vid is booooooooooooooooooooooring :yawn:

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 01:11 AM
give out feedback once you're done listening to the clips, I'd love to hear from ya.
I like most of them. Candyman rubs me the wrong way but it could be a good Winter hit.
There's something very sexual and dominant about Slow Down Baby that is really appealing to me.
I really don't know if she could top "Stripped" in my eyes. The album lasted for almost two years and had five great singles in Dirrty, Beautiful, Fighter, Can't Hold Us Down, and The Voice Within. It was a hard album to skip any song on. I waited in line with the Tori Amos white lesbians fans to be one of the first Americans to get "Stripped" at Virgin Record in Times Square. Then I actualy became a Tori Amos fan. :tape: I don't know if I would do the same thing this time around.

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 01:13 AM
Don't forget none of those clips are HQ quality.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 01:16 AM
Don't forget none of those clips are HQ quality.
Nor were many of the clips from the "Stripped" album when I heard them 3 months before the album came out. ;)

Cator
Jul 18th, 2006, 01:19 AM
Yes, but look at the tracklist... we still have over 15 songs we didn't hear yet.

jd4eva
Jul 18th, 2006, 02:02 AM
The girl looks possessed. As I said while watching the video, Beyonce if you can't do it right then it give it back to the Africans.
Beyonce video is trifling. Let's get it out of your head that Beyonce can dance, she can't. The song has actually gone down the charts since the video has been out while Christina's song went up the charts once the video came out. You can check the Billboard Hot 100 for that info. The Beyonce video is an advertisment for her overhype overexpensive fashion line. Another advertisment for her celebrity link-up with Jay-Z. She also needs to stop doing the DELTA sign ok. She did not make that up nor is she an honorary DELTA. That is a sorority sign and she is not apart of that sorority. The Delta Sigma Theta sorority has some big influence in every field you can dream of, they are not ones to mess with.
Beyonce just comes off generic and fake in her video while Christina Aguilera comes off genuinely serious about this new jazz style she is embracing in her music.

The idea that Beyonce's song is flopping is a myth and outright fallacy. A song can no longer survive alone on the Billboard Hot 100 based on Airplay alone. There was a time where this was the case, but since the inception of digital downloads and sales the formula for chart ranking has been weighted in favour of downloads and sales at approximately two thirds as opposed to one third based on airplay.

Beyonce continues to rise on the Hot 100 Airplay chart, reaching no 7 this week while Aguilera is not even within the top 25. Christina, on the other hand, manages a no 7 Hot 100 chart position because she is no 4 on the Digital Downloads Chart: a chart which Beyonce is not a part of at the moment.

Once Beyonce releases her single to sales and download, she is going to come awfully close to no 1. The only risk Beyonce may run is that she may leave it too long before she actually releases her song to the digital market and thus may reduce her consumer base.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 02:37 AM
The idea that Beyonce's song is flopping is a myth and outright fallacy. A song can no longer survive alone on the Billboard Hot 100 based on Airplay alone. There was a time where this was the case, but since the inception of digital downloads and sales the formula for chart ranking has been weighted in favour of downloads and sales at approximately two thirds as opposed to one third based on airplay.

Beyonce continues to rise on the Hot 100 Airplay chart, reaching no 7 this week while Aguilera is not even within the top 25. Christina, on the other hand, manages a no 7 Hot 100 chart position because she is no 4 on the Digital Downloads Chart: a chart which Beyonce is not a part of at the moment.

Once Beyonce releases her single to sales and download, she is going to come awfully close to no 1. The only risk Beyonce may run is that she may leave it too long before she actually releases her song to the digital market and thus may reduce her consumer base.

Deja Vu is 34 this week. It went down a spot after the video came out last week. :tape: There's one outlet she's hoping will put the song at number one. I call it the Rihanna trick. It's called that because Rihanna used it first and her song was in the 30s on the Billboard Hot 100 before she put the single out only in downloads. She went to number one. Beyonce could likely get to the top 10 that way but it won't be enough to get her to number one.

What have you said that I haven't said on my other post on the first page? :confused:

jd4eva
Jul 18th, 2006, 03:13 AM
What have you said that I haven't said on my other post on the first page? :confused:

I wasn't replying to you specifically. I just quoted your post because you were the first one to bring up chart position. It was a general commentary to the idea that her song is flopping; which really is not the case.

As a sidenote: You think Beyonce is 'fake' but then praise Aguilera for attempting to adopt a new style? Isn't Aguilera being fake by virtue of attempting to adopt a style which is not hers originally? I understand all about growth and developing; but I don't really think that attempting a blatant rip-off of Marilyn Monroe is indicative of such growth.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 03:39 AM
I wasn't replying to you specifically. I just quoted your post because you were the first one to bring up chart position. It was a general commentary to the idea that her song is flopping; which really is not the case.

As a sidenote: You think Beyonce is 'fake' but then praise Aguilera for attempting to adopt a new style? Isn't Aguilera being fake by virtue of attempting to adopt a style which is not hers originally? I understand all about growth and developing; but I don't really think that attempting a blatant rip-off of Marilyn Monroe is indicative of such growth.

Tsk tsk. Christina Aguilera has been singing Etta James songs since she was a tween. She actually got to meet her role model Etta James a couple of months ago. This isn't a new style for her. This is something she's wanted to do for a while but obviously couldn't because it just wasn't going to happen on a debut album. She conformed as much as she could but even then there are some nice songs on her debut album that show the influence of Etta in Christina's music.
The girl is married maybe she just wants to show a softer side of herself in the public. I don't see the resemblance to Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn Monroe was a sexy size 12 women with an appetite for being in the public's eye. I don't see that in Christina right now. I see a women who is trying to show others that jazz is not dead and bring some of it to pop culture.

jd4eva
Jul 18th, 2006, 03:48 AM
Tsk tsk. Christina Aguilera has been singing Etta James songs since she was a tween. She actually got to meet her role model Etta James a couple of months ago. This isn't a new style for her. This is something she's wanted to do for a while but obviously couldn't because it just wasn't going to happen on a debut album. She conformed as much as she could but even then there are some nice songs on her debut album that show the influence of Etta in Christina's music.
The girl is married maybe she just wants to show a softer side of herself in the public. I don't see the resemblance to Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn Monroe was a sexy size 12 women with an appetite for being in the public's eye. I don't see that in Christina right now. I see a women who is trying to show others that jazz is not dead and bring some of it to pop culture.

That's all nice and well but it doesn't change the fact that she's biting Etta's style. I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing; but certainly it's not really convincing to classify one performer as 'fake' while another has blatantly ripped off another performer's style. Christina is a tremendous talent but I definitely don't buy what she is currently doing as innovative or original; it has all been done before even if the context has changed.

Christina has said herself she is trying to emulate the old school glamour of Marilyn Monroe and Marlene Dietrich. It's certainly nice to have influences but trying to look exactly like an icon of another generation is not particulary original. The point I am trying to make is that it is a little contrived to identify Christina's new music and her new look as original or a sign of growth; it is a sign of individual difference but certainly it is neither innovative nor original.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 04:09 AM
That's all nice and well but it doesn't change the fact that she's biting Etta's style. I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing; but certainly it's not really convincing to classify one performer as 'fake' while another has blatantly ripped off another performer's style. Christina is a tremendous talent but I definitely don't buy what she is currently doing as innovative or original; it has all been done before even if the context has changed.

Christina has said herself she is trying to emulate the old school glamour of Marilyn Monroe and Marlene Dietrich. It's certainly nice to have influences but trying to look exactly like an icon of another generation is not particulary original. The point I am trying to make is that it is a little contrived to identify Christina's new music and her new look as original or a sign of growth; it is a sign of individual difference but certainly it is neither innovative nor original.
It's a new look and a new style in pop culture. That is what makes it orginal in pop culture. Etta James would never meet any artist that is "ripping off her style". That's just how she is. Speaking of which I can't recall if Diana Ross has ever met Beyonce on a one-on-one basis. :tape: I wonder what that's all about. Christina said she would try to emulate but she only meant it as a compliment. She's going to do it her way and for the new millenium. The hair is nice. The dresses are Christina's style with some jazz influence but as far as I know she doesn't have a clothing line. It's a sign of growth because she continues to branch out in pop and she's making the genre look incredibly broad.

No Name Face
Jul 18th, 2006, 04:51 AM
ugh...can we all just get back to basics? ;)

beyonce's hotter, but christina sings better.
beyonce's safe and derivative, christina is 'dirrty' and takes risks :rolleyes:

on second thought.....
they're practically the same thing, but christina seems like more fun.

therefore, that has nothing to do with who has the better video, but i'll just say christina cuz i like her more.

No Name Face
Jul 18th, 2006, 04:54 AM
Christina is not a better singer, if she was then she would have 9 Grammy's and she would have won 5 Grammy's in one night!

lol...are you beyonce's dad or something?
christina is a better singer...wtf. i mean i know we all have preferences and you might prefer beyonce's voice, but christina is the best pop singer right now. she can sing anyone under the table. she wasn't as good as whitney in her prime, but still.

Stamp Paid
Jul 18th, 2006, 05:19 AM
The girl looks possessed. As I said while watching the video, Beyonce if you can't do it right then it give it back to the Africans.
Beyonce video is trifling. Let's get it out of your head that Beyonce can dance, she can't. The song has actually gone down the charts since the video has been out while Christina's song went up the charts once the video came out. You can check the Billboard Hot 100 for that info. The Beyonce video is an advertisment for her overhype overexpensive fashion line. Another advertisment for her celebrity link-up with Jay-Z. She also needs to stop doing the DELTA sign ok. She did not make that up nor is she an honorary DELTA. That is a sorority sign and she is not apart of that sorority. The Delta Sigma Theta sorority has some big influence in every field you can dream of, they are not ones to mess with.
Beyonce just comes off generic and fake in her video while Christina Aguilera comes off genuinely serious about this new jazz style she is embracing in her music.

LMFAO, please please please tell me you are not bein serious and this is a joke!!

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 06:56 AM
LMFAO, please please please tell me you are not bein serious and this is a joke!!
It's not a joke if I know some Delta's who saw it and complain themselves.

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 06:57 AM
It's not a joke if I know some Delta's who saw it and complain themselves.

:lol: You have been hating on Beyonce since you got to these boards. It's no surprise. I think you secretly want to be her if you had the chance.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:07 AM
:lol: You have been hating on Beyonce since you got to these boards. It's no surprise. I think you secretly want to be her if you had the chance.
Not quite. You see what you want and you've been talking :bs: since you've got these boards. I still stand by my posts that Destiny Child is one of the best groups when it comes to harmonies.

mapaliey
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Oh and she sold over 50 million albums with Destiny's Child, throw in 11 million copies of Dangerously in love, and you get one bad bitch! Thank You!


stop talk..thank u.....

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:13 AM
Not quite. You see what you want and you've been talking :bs: since you've got these boards. I still stand by my posts that Destiny Child is one of the best groups when it comes to harmonies.

I'm not familiar with your posts on Destiny's Child. I just know that WHENEVER a thread about Beyonce comes up you are in there trolling away about how horrible Beyonce is. OCDish behavior. If you don't like her, then fine, but it makes no sense to go into a thread and let it known how horrible she is. :retard:

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:14 AM
stop talk..thank u.....

:lol:

mapaliey
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:16 AM
Beyonce's vid AND song all the way!!

X-tina?! :shrug: The vid is booooooooooooooooooooooring :yawn:


u should see after u woke up in the morning....

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:20 AM
I'm not familiar with your posts on Destiny's Child. I just know that WHENEVER a thread about Beyonce comes up you are in there trolling away about how horrible Beyonce is. OCDish behavior. If you don't like her, then fine, but it makes no sense to go into a thread and let it known how horrible she is. :retard:
I wasn't the one who made yet another Beyonce vs. Christina thread. :confused: I posted in the thread appropriately. Maybe if you weren't such a :retard: you could see that.

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:23 AM
I wasn't the one who made yet another Beyonce vs. Christina thread. :confused: I posted in the thread appropriately. Maybe if you weren't such a :retard: you could see that.

I didn't say you made the thread. When did I say that? I just said WHENEVER a thread about Beyonce comes into play you are right there in the shadows waiting to let the world know how overrated and horrible Beyonce is. I can do a search of your posts (I won't) and it would prove how much of a broken record you are.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:25 AM
I didn't say you made the thread. When did I say that? I just said WHENEVER a thread about Beyonce comes into play you are right there in the shadows waiting to let the world know how overrated and horrible Beyonce is. I can do a search of your posts (I won't) and it would prove how much of a broken record you are.
You don't have to? There's another Beyonce thread where I actually said something nice. I guess that would take about...3 seconds. :tape:

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:29 AM
You don't have to? There's another Beyonce thread where I actually said something nice. I guess that would take about...3 seconds. :tape:

WHAT? :retard: I'm confused. I haven't really had a disagreement with you face2face until now but you know I am correct in my assessment even though i haven't agreed with alot of your posts in the past but I am dead on when it comes to my assessment about your beyonce obsession/hate.

Just calm down. It'll be alright, okay? Beyonce is going to be successful regardless so just deal with it and it'll be okay. :haha:

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:44 AM
WHAT? :retard: I'm confused. I haven't really had a disagreement with you face2face until now but you know I am correct in my assessment even though i haven't agreed with alot of your posts in the past but I am dead on when it comes to my assessment about your beyonce obsession/hate.

Just calm down. It'll be alright, okay? Beyonce is going to be successful regardless so just deal with it and it'll be okay. :haha:

I'm sorry you have me confused with J-Baby and his 25 other names he has on here. I'm not obcessed with Beyonce. I just wish she would take a damn break. :tape: Give me some time to listen to Janet, Christina, and India.Arie without seeing her ass on the charts with them. Even J.Lo took a break.

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:49 AM
I'm sorry you have me confused with J-Baby and his 25 other names he has on here. I'm not obcessed with Beyonce. I just wish she would take a damn break. :tape: Give me some time to listen to Janet, Christina, and India.Arie without seeing her ass on the charts with them. Even J.Lo took a break.

I will agree there. Beyonce should take a break. But it won't happen. Her father has a plan laid out for her including a timeline/etc., and they will closely follow it. I think her album is VERY rushed and she should have took more time on it but Beyonce seems like a work-a-holic and perfectionist. That doesn't mean you have to go into fan threads and diminish her accomplishments or bash her because of this.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:57 AM
I will agree there. Beyonce should take a break. But it won't happen. Her father has a plan laid out for her including a timeline/etc., and they will closely follow it. I think her album is VERY rushed and she should have took more time on it but Beyonce seems like a work-a-holic and perfectionist. That doesn't mean you have to go into fan threads and diminish her accomplishments or bash her because of this.

Many of the papers and magazines at the time thought Beyonce's first album was playing it safe, I agreed with them. This time around it appears to be much of the same. If it appears that's she compromising her abilities as an artist to get hits then I'm going to call her on it. If it appears I'm diminishing her accomplishments because of it then so be it.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 11:06 AM
Lol yeah...The video is totally safe..NAH. The video is nothing like what's out there right now. It is a BIG risk. POP audience will probably drop DV after seeing the video.
The cover: a BIG risk. Very couture, very high fashion. Probably u know that HIGH FASHION is always risky.
Her dance moves: a RISK. Not many people get african dances and the video connected to her CREOLE roots (I only wish you knew the story of the video).
DV, similar as WOI. WOI flopped, DV and the whole album will be very LEFT DIRECTION, I have a friend who works for Sony and we all will be surprised. Very OLD school. But I guess Bee isn't taking new risks because she doesn't copy a legend from the past, but she uses elements from various legends and makes them her own...?

Christina isn't doing anything what hasn't been done before. WOI was actually the first song from these ladies with a cabaret video and a live sound, ANOM video looks like a mixture of WOI and TILT YOUR HEAD BACK and even NAUGHTY GIRL. And you call this original..? Lol yeah...

Anyways, I vote for DV because it is a really different video from everything else out right now. DV video has such a great story, but this story is too complicated for people who are stupid and slow minded.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 04:28 PM
Lol yeah...The video is totally safe..NAH. The video is nothing like what's out there right now. It is a BIG risk. POP audience will probably drop DV after seeing the video.
The cover: a BIG risk. Very couture, very high fashion. Probably u know that HIGH FASHION is always risky.
Her dance moves: a RISK. Not many people get african dances and the video connected to her CREOLE roots (I only wish you knew the story of the video).
DV, similar as WOI. WOI flopped, DV and the whole album will be very LEFT DIRECTION, I have a friend who works for Sony and we all will be surprised. Very OLD school. But I guess Bee isn't taking new risks because she doesn't copy a legend from the past, but she uses elements from various legends and makes them her own...?

Christina isn't doing anything what hasn't been done before. WOI was actually the first song from these ladies with a cabaret video and a live sound, ANOM video looks like a mixture of WOI and TILT YOUR HEAD BACK and even NAUGHTY GIRL. And you call this original..? Lol yeah...

Anyways, I vote for DV because it is a really different video from everything else out right now. DV video has such a great story, but this story is too complicated for people who are stupid and slow minded.

You know Eve had an expensive fashion line. I've seen it somewhere in Conway the last couple of months. :tape: You just don't start with selling high fashion and thinking it's going to sell like hot cakes. I guess she'll have to learn.
The scenery, individual fashion, and a story, I wonder where have I seen that before Deja Vu? I've seen it in a Corrine Bailey Rae video just she didn't look like a fool at the end of the video.
There's no risk to dancing African or Croele, well that's if it's done correctly. She has the rhythm down but she's incredibly stiff. The dance is not fluid at all and it makes the dance come off weird.

!<blocparty>!
Jul 18th, 2006, 05:15 PM
Oh my. What could be more entertaining than a SVSK Wannabeknowitall argument. :tape:

But to answer the thread... Christina's song and video by a country mile. Could Beyonce actually be anymore commericial now. :tape: She should turn into a robot and clone herself a few times.

Stamp Paid
Jul 18th, 2006, 05:18 PM
It's not a joke if I know some Delta's who saw it and complain themselves.

Do they complain about Jay-Z, Kanye West, Memphis Bleek, Teairra Mari doing it? Did they complain when Damon Dash did it?

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 05:24 PM
Do they complain about Jay-Z, Kanye West, Memphis Bleek, Teairra Mari doing it? Did they complain when Damon Dash did it?
They've complained about Jay-Z doing it from what they've seen of his videos. They haven't said anything about the others yet, probably haven't seen them do it.

Stamp Paid
Jul 18th, 2006, 05:57 PM
They've complained about Jay-Z doing it from what they've seen of his videos. They haven't said anything about the others yet, probably haven't seen them do it.

I'm surprised, its been the Rocafella sign since 1999. Why they get a problem all of a sudden when Beyonce does it? Especially when in every video, Damon Dash was doing it while pouring a bottle of Cristal on some young girl. :confused:

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 06:07 PM
I'm surprised, its been the Rocafella sign since 1999. Why they get a problem all of a sudden when Beyonce does it? Especially when in every video, Damon Dash was doing it while pouring a bottle of Cristal on some young girl. :confused:
I just said they've complained about Jay-Z doing it as well. I don't know anything about that. I just know when they saw the video they said something about it. I wasn't in college in 1999-2001 so I don't know what the Deltas were talking about then. I just know what they're talking about now. They could have said something then but I wasn't around. The only people I knew at the time that were Deltas was my mother and she wasn't watching Damon Dash doing the delta sign while pouring a bottle of Cristal. :lol:

shirley
Jul 18th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Christina Aguilera: ''Ain't No Other Man''

mirzalover
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:05 PM
i dont like christina first she was all fake and britteny-ish and then she became all sexy even though she not that good looking and now she trying to be all Ms. Monroe on us with that ugly ass to bright of blonde hair please what's next.

Beyonce vid is better and the song is better

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:19 PM
i dont like christina first she was all fake and britteny-ish and then she became all sexy even though she not that good looking and now she trying to be all Ms. Monroe on us with that ugly ass to bright of blonde hair please what's next.

Beyonce vid is better and the song is better
Christina actually came out before Britney since everyone seems to keep forgetting. Christina's song from the Mulan soundtrack was out months before Baby One More Time. She also had tracks for a whole album finished in 1996 which became part of the Just Be Free album that came out in 2001, unauthorized by Christina. Even those songs from 1996 showed the route she was looking to go in years later.

V-MAC
Jul 18th, 2006, 07:38 PM
Christina wins hands down, although this "1920's" kind of feel she has in her video is kinda getting old now, reminds me of the video she did with Nelly a few years back.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:06 PM
You know Eve had an expensive fashion line. I've seen it somewhere in Conway the last couple of months. :tape: You just don't start with selling high fashion and thinking it's going to sell like hot cakes. I guess she'll have to learn.
The scenery, individual fashion, and a story, I wonder where have I seen that before Deja Vu? I've seen it in a Corrine Bailey Rae video just she didn't look like a fool at the end of the video.
There's no risk to dancing African or Croele, well that's if it's done correctly. She has the rhythm down but she's incredibly stiff. The dance is not fluid at all and it makes the dance come off weird.

Lolz as I thought. You DIDN'T say anything about my points, you quickly switched to sth else which I didn't mention in my post anyway. It just shows you've hit the wall.

And even if Beyonce is STIFF (she isn't), she AT LEAST tries to dance. Oh I forgot that Christina danced too. If you can call that dance....

Your hate is becoming redundant and stupid. Your opinion is biased and if you have all the time in the world to hate on Beyonce, you are truly pathetic. Why do you even post in Beyonce threads...? Get your boring ass to an other section and bitch there.

I'm gonna kiss your DIRRTY ass in goodbye. You're a big fool. Now go and stick a big stick in your ass and sing Ain't No Other Man. You will sing on pitch, trust me.

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Lolz as I thought. You DIDN'T say anything about my points, you quickly switched to sth else which I didn't mention in my post anyway. It just shows you've hit the wall.

And even if Beyonce is STIFF (she isn't), she AT LEAST tries to dance. Oh I forgot that Christina danced too. If you can call that dance....

Your hate is becoming redundant and stupid. Your opinion is biased and if you have all the time in the world to hate on Beyonce, you are truly pathetic. Why do you even post in Beyonce threads...? Get your boring ass to an other section and bitch there.

I'm gonna kiss your DIRRTY ass in goodbye. You're a big fool. Now go and stick a big stick in your ass and sing Ain't No Other Man. You will sing on pitch, trust me.


:lol: :yeah: It's obvious wannabe is obsessed with Beyonce. Every Beyonce thread he comes in charging letting the world know what a horrible and overrated performer Beyonce is. It is non-stop. He is obsessed with her. I think he secretly wants to be her.

Kenny
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Can anyone explain to me why Deja Vu isn't on iTunes?!?

Kenny
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:11 PM
:dance:I choose AIN'T NO OTHER MAN.:dance:

:dance: lol.. just a feel good song. Gets ya to groovin.:dance:

:) .................................................. ....... :D

:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

Uranus
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:14 PM
I like Bee better but between these songs I choose Xtina!

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:19 PM
Lolz as I thought. You DIDN'T say anything about my points, you quickly switched to sth else which I didn't mention in my post anyway. It just shows you've hit the wall.

And even if Beyonce is STIFF (she isn't), she AT LEAST tries to dance. Oh I forgot that Christina danced too. If you can call that dance....

Your hate is becoming redundant and stupid. Your opinion is biased and if you have all the time in the world to hate on Beyonce, you are truly pathetic. Why do you even post in Beyonce threads...? Get your boring ass to an other section and bitch there.

I'm gonna kiss your DIRRTY ass in goodbye. You're a big fool. Now go and stick a big stick in your ass and sing Ain't No Other Man. You will sing on pitch, trust me.

I would tell you to do also stick a big stick up your ass and sing Check On it but your **** ass might not find it. :tape: This isn't a Beyonce thread. This is a Beyonce vs. Christina thread. Christina actually sings while dancing. Beyonce many of times will not. All you have to do is look at Deja Vu at the BET awards to know that I'm telling the truth. Rolling on the floor is not considered dancing, BTW.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:22 PM
Can anyone explain to me why Deja Vu isn't on iTunes?!?
Deja Vu is 34 this week. It went down a spot after the video came out last week. :tape: There's one outlet she's hoping will put the song at number one. I call it the Rihanna trick. It's called that because Rihanna used it first and her song was in the 30s on the Billboard Hot 100 before she put the single out only in downloads. She went to number one. Beyonce could likely get to the top 10 that way but it won't be enough to get her to number one.
That might help.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:23 PM
:lol: :yeah: It's obvious wannabe is obsessed with Beyonce. Every Beyonce thread he comes in charging letting the world know what a horrible and overrated performer Beyonce is. It is non-stop. He is obsessed with her. I think he secretly wants to be her.
Again you're a moron. This is not just a Beyonce thread. You can read right? What does it say? Ain't No Other Man vs. Deja Vu. So shut it up.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:34 PM
So get your stinky ass outta here, you already showed you don't like Beyonce. BITCH GET OUTTA HERE.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:35 PM
I would tell you to do also stick a big stick up your ass and sing Check On it but your **** ass might not find it. :tape: This isn't a Beyonce thread. This is a Beyonce vs. Christina thread. Christina actually sings while dancing. Beyonce many of times will not. All you have to do is look at Deja Vu at the BET awards to know that I'm telling the truth. Rolling on the floor is not considered dancing, BTW.

Lol again you failed to prove me wrong. :lol:

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:36 PM
That might help.

You do know that DV was colored gold on Billboard charts, that means she actually gained airplay despite dropping one place..? :rolleyes:

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:38 PM
Again you're a moron. This is not just a Beyonce thread. You can read right? What does it say? Ain't No Other Man vs. Deja Vu. So shut it up.

I am just saying Beyonce threads in general. :lol: Why are you getting so mad as to call me morons, etc? It's not that serious. It's just that whenever a thread about Beyonce is posted you are there waiting in the winds trying to convince yourself how horrible Beyonce is.

serenafan08
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:39 PM
I like Beyonce's song better - but I like Christina's video better. I don't know who makes the concepts of the videos for these artists...like I don't know - Beyonce's video would have been better if it were set at like a club scene or something - where you really would have a deja vu moment. Her dancing in the grass, by that pond or whatever - I was like - WTF!?

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:43 PM
You do know that DV was colored gold on Billboard charts, that means she actually gained airplay despite dropping one place..? :rolleyes:
Does that really matter when Paris Hilton has had a better debut single than Beyonce without any help from downloads? :tape: Going down in any form on the Billboard charts isn't good. She's lucky she only went down one spot. She can thank that to the R&B stations who are playing her as much as they can. She can only stay at the top of those charts for so long. She better allow people to download the single soon if she knows what's good for her.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:43 PM
serenafan I feel you. BUT, if she had a video in a club, don't you think many ASSES in here would jump and say she ain't original..? Beyoncer can never do anything right...

She just did a video that is nothing like other videos out today. Believe me, the video has such a background it is absolutely amazing...When I read the article about all the settings and so on, I started loving the video.

I won't post it here because it is not for slow minded people (not adressing you serenafan).

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:45 PM
I like Beyonce's song better - but I like Christina's video better. I don't know who makes the concepts of the videos for these artists...like I don't know - Beyonce's video would have been better if it were set at like a club scene or something - where you really would have a deja vu moment. Her dancing in the grass, by that pond or whatever - I was like - WTF!?
:lol: :worship: :haha:

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:47 PM
Does that really matter when Paris Hilton has had a better debut single than Beyonce without any help from downloads? :tape: Going down in any form on the Billboard charts isn't good. She's lucky she only went down one spot. She can thank that to the R&B stations who are playing her as much as they can. She can only stay at the top of those charts for so long. She better allow people to download the single soon if she knows what's good for her.

Actually, Beyonce had the biggest radio airplay debut since Michael Jackson. Paris Hilton debuted higher because she actually had the help of downloads. Yes, her song WAS available on Itunes for the whole week before the song even started getting some radio airplay..And you do know that DEJA VU has the 4th biggest radio airplay in America right now and still rising...? And you do know that ANOM is not even in top 30 considering radio airplay...? I GUESS NOT.

Check your facts before saying shit DUMBASS.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:47 PM
serenafan I feel you. BUT, if she had a video in a club, don't you think many ASSES in here would jump and say she ain't original..? Beyoncer can never do anything right...

She just did a video that is nothing like other videos out today. Believe me, the video has such a background it is absolutely amazing...When I read the article about all the settings and so on, I started loving the video.

I won't post it here because it is not for slow minded people (not adressing you serenafan).
Again the video is a similar style to Corrine Bailey Rae's "Go Put Your Record On". You can ignore it if you like but the South African background of Corrine's video is absolutely breathtaking.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:51 PM
Here y'all have the proof:
PARIS HILTON has 25.262 million audience impressions
http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1451343&NumDays=7

CHRISTINA AGUILERA has 53.53 million audience impressions
http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1451453&NumDays=7

BEYONCE KNOWLES has 106.621 million audience impressions
http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1453943&NumDays=7

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Here y'all have the proof:
PARIS HILTON has 25.262 million audience impressions
http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1451343&NumDays=7

CHRISTINA AGUILERA has 53.53 million audience impressions
http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1451453&NumDays=7

BEYONCE KNOWLES has 106.621 million audience impressions
http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1453943&NumDays=7


:lol:

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Again the video is a similar style to Corrine Bailey Rae's "Go Put Your Record On". You can ignore it if you like but the South African background of Corrine's video is absolutely breathtaking.

And the ANOM video isn't similar to TILT YOUR HEAD BACK video..?

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 08:57 PM
Actually, Beyonce had the biggest radio airplay debut since Michael Jackson. Paris Hilton debuted higher because she actually had the help of downloads. Yes, her song WAS available on Itunes for the whole week before the song even started getting some radio airplay..And you do know that DEJA VU has the 4th biggest radio airplay in America right now and still rising...? And you do know that ANOM is not even in top 30 considering radio airplay...? I GUESS NOT.

Check your facts before saying shit DUMBASS.
A mistake of mines but not as big as your mistake of saying that "Work It Out" was not a single in America. :tape: It would have helped if Itunes wouldn't spaz out half the time and lose searches. Enough about that. I know Deja Vu continues to do well on radio airplay. If her song falls this week though, it's going to be very hard for her to get that number one on the Hot 100. I don't know if she's hoping Nelly Furtado starts to fall down the charts soon but it's not a smart move.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:02 PM
I wasn't the one who said WOI wasn't a single..Your mistake. AGAIN.

It doesn't matter if the song falls or not. Billboard charts are 1/3 radio airplay and 2/3 downloads. Her radio airplay is top 5, if the song is number 1 or 2 on the downloads, she is a definite top 2 hit. Nelly Furtado is still strong on radio airplay, but her downloads are slipping.

And either way, the purpose of DV isn't getting to that number 1. That will do Ring The Alarm. The song reached its purpose.Y'all talking about the song like mad. That means she has made an impact. AGAIN.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:10 PM
And the ANOM video isn't similar to TILT YOUR HEAD BACK video..?

It's her video. Actually she just had the look of the 40s, it was the preview of the style she was starting to fully embrace since "The Voice Within". She was going for a 70s sound that summer. Tilt Your Head Back used samples from Superfly and she also had out Car Wash.

To say Beyonce did something different when Corrine Bailey Rae has had her video out for months and put her own style into the video with a beautiful background and a nice story behind it is RETARDED.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:16 PM
It's her video. Actually she just had the look of the 40s, it was the preview of the style she was starting to fully embrace since "The Voice Within". She was going for a 70s sound that summer. Tilt Your Head Back used samples from Superfly and she also had out Car Wash.

To say Beyonce did something different when Corrine Bailey Rae has had her video out for months and put her own style into the video with a beautiful background and a nice story behind it is RETARDED.


Wait. Wait. You were the one complaining how DEJA Vu resembles Crazy In Love and now you're saying there's nothing wrong when Christina does a similar video to what she has already done before...? LMAO. You're a joke and a BIG hypocrite. :worship:

Maybe Crazy In Love was a preview of Deja Vu...? LMAO... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

G1Player2
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:18 PM
Wait. Wait. You were the one complaining how DEJA Vu resembles Crazy In Love and now you're saying there's nothing wrong when Christina does a similar video to what she has already done before...? LMAO. You're a joke and a BIG hypocrite. :worship:

Maybe Crazy In Love was a preview of Deja Vu...? LMAO... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BEE, just stop arguing with wannabe. He is a hater and everyone knows it. He is a lost cause. Just leave him be and let Beyonce's success continue to eat at him. It's making him crazy and I am loving every minute of it.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:20 PM
Wait. Wait. You were the one complaining how DEJA Vu resembles Crazy In Love and now you're saying there's nothing wrong when Christina does a similar video to what she has already done before...? LMAO. You're a joke and a BIG hypocrite. :worship:

Maybe Crazy In Love was a preview of Deja Vu...? LMAO... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I at no time said Deja Vu resembles Crazy in Love. :confused: I said it was fake. Now if you're associating that fakeness with another video of Beyonce's then I'm not stopping you. It never came out of my mouth though. I guess you can call that a mistake on your end. I don't appreciate the name calling especially if you're pulling shyt out of your ass.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:24 PM
Lolz you said Beyonce took the Crazy In Love road (aka safe road) again. What a dumbass...

Beyonce is just as original as Christina is. FACE IT.

And get a life.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:31 PM
Lolz you said Beyonce took the Crazy In Love road (aka safe road) again. What a dumbass...

Beyonce is just as original as Christina is. FACE IT.

And get a life.
One thing has to do with a video and another a compromising of sound. There's a big difference between the two. Also I said her first album (which I remember being called Dangerously in Love not Crazy In Love), I did not single out Crazy in Love. I might not have been talking about Crazy In Love. Many papers and magazines did say the only song where she didn't play safe on her first album was the duet with Andre 3000. I could have disagreed. Their word isn't written in stone as far as I'm concerned. I said it appears she's doing the same thing this time around taking in consideration that Check On It and Deja Vu were her singles for the next album.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:46 PM
One thing has to do with a video and another a compromising of sound. There's a big difference between the two. Also I said her first album (which I remember being called Dangerously in Love not Crazy In Love), I did not single out Crazy in Love. I might not have been talking about Crazy In Love. Many papers and magazines did say the only song where she didn't play safe on her first album was the duet with Andre 3000. I could have disagreed. Their word isn't written in stone as far as I'm concerned. I said it appears she's doing the same thing this time around taking in consideration that Check On It and Deja Vu were her singles for the next album.

Beyonce NEVER had a duet with Andre 3000...What the hell are you talking about...? You haven't even heard B'DAY yet and you are saying she is doing the same thing..? COI wasn't a single for B'DAY it was a single for The Pink Panther.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:49 PM
BEE, just stop arguing with wannabe. He is a hater and everyone knows it. He is a lost cause. Just leave him be and let Beyonce's success continue to eat at him. It's making him crazy and I am loving every minute of it.
Beyonce's success isn't eating at me. Although I did get some satisfaction from Beyonce getting ditched by Usher for My Boo. Hilarious song. I don't have an orgasmic obcession at every sound that comes out of her mouth like you are. I don't go to clubs and all of a sudden "drop it like it's hot" once a Beyonce song comes on. I'm sure you and that other club **** J-baby might but it ain't me. I don't hate Beyonce but I will continue to call her out on her compromising her sound for hits. She has the abillity to be the female Prince, if she wants to just be another hit-and-run like Patrice Rushen which you obviously enjoy in theory then continue to praise her. I said enough on the topic and if you didn't understand my point of view then that's your problem.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 09:53 PM
Anywhoo, I can't wait to hear the song Beyonce composed...It's called Listen...

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 10:28 PM
Beyonce NEVER had a duet with Andre 3000...What the hell are you talking about...? You haven't even heard B'DAY yet and you are saying she is doing the same thing..? COI wasn't a single for B'DAY it was a single for The Pink Panther.
Andre 3000, Big Boi does it really matter, they're both in Outkast. What can I expect from a nitpicking obcessive jackass though. Either way the fourth song on the album was what most critics expected from Beyonce but they thought she could have been more aggressive.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 18th, 2006, 10:35 PM
It ain't my fault you don't have an idea what you talk about.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 10:49 PM
It ain't my fault you don't have an idea what you talk about.
Uh huh. If that was the case you still wouldn't be bitching in this thread.

jd4eva
Jul 18th, 2006, 11:08 PM
Does that really matter when Paris Hilton has had a better debut single than Beyonce without any help from downloads? :tape: Going down in any form on the Billboard charts isn't good. She's lucky she only went down one spot. She can thank that to the R&B stations who are playing her as much as they can. She can only stay at the top of those charts for so long. She better allow people to download the single soon if she knows what's good for her.

As a side note: Christina Aguilera has also slipped one spot from 6 to 7 and her single has been fully released for download and sales. Isn't that a sign that it's not necessarily doing well either?

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 18th, 2006, 11:18 PM
As a side note: Christina Aguilera has also slipped one spot from 6 to 7 and her single has been fully released for download and sales. Isn't that a sign that it's not necessarily doing well either?
One's in the top ten living up to it's potential and having to deal with the biggest hits of the summer, Promiscious, Me & You, Crazy, Unfaithful, It's Going Down, and Buttons while another one is trying to hold out as long as possible to get itself at least in the top 10. One's living up to potential, the other one is hoping it's potential will get it to where it wants to go.

jd4eva
Jul 18th, 2006, 11:44 PM
One's in the top ten living up to it's potential and having to deal with the biggest hits of the summer, Promiscious, Me & You, Crazy, Unfaithful, It's Going Down, and Buttons while another one is trying to hold out as long as possible to get itself at least in the top 10. One's living up to potential, the other one is hoping it's potential will get it to where it wants to go.

One has been released to the consumer market. One hasn't. When Beyonce's single gets released it will pretty much be a lock for the top 10. The fact that Aguilera is slipping so quickly after being released to digital downloads doesn't bode well for her success. Let's not remain ignorant of the fact that it is a mathematical impossibility for Beyonce to get into the top 10 on Airplay alone.

Additionally, I don't necessarily think the success of this single will indicate how Beyonce's album and other singles will do. We saw it in 2003 with Work It Out which was a commercial disaster and yet we saw how she dominated the charts with Dangerously in Love and Crazy In Love and Baby Boy (which spent 8 and 9 weeks at the top of the chart respectively).

Mariah Carey's lead single It's Like That wasn't a big success either and we saw what the Emancipation of Mimi did.

Beyonce continues to gain on Airplay alone; Deja Vu is the only single in the top 10 that has yet to be released to digital downloads. Furthermore, Deja Vu has only been released for 4 weeks which places her at a disadvantage comparatively to the other songs in the top 10 of the Airplay Chart because they have had plenty more time to saturate the Airplay market; for example the next song to be released was Promiscuous which has had a 5 week head-start on Beyonce.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 19th, 2006, 01:54 AM
One has been released to the consumer market. One hasn't. When Beyonce's single gets released it will pretty much be a lock for the top 10. The fact that Aguilera is slipping so quickly after being released to digital downloads doesn't bode well for her success. Let's not remain ignorant of the fact that it is a mathematical impossibility for Beyonce to get into the top 10 on Airplay alone.

Additionally, I don't necessarily think the success of this single will indicate how Beyonce's album and other singles will do. We saw it in 2003 with Work It Out which was a commercial disaster and yet we saw how she dominated the charts with Dangerously in Love and Crazy In Love and Baby Boy (which spent 8 and 9 weeks at the top of the chart respectively).

Mariah Carey's lead single It's Like That wasn't a big success either and we saw what the Emancipation of Mimi did.

Beyonce continues to gain on Airplay alone; Deja Vu is the only single in the top 10 that has yet to be released to digital downloads. Furthermore, Deja Vu has only been released for 4 weeks which places her at a disadvantage comparatively to the other songs in the top 10 of the Airplay Chart because they have had plenty more time to saturate the Airplay market; for example the next song to be released was Promiscuous which has had a 5 week head-start on Beyonce.
The problem is even with high downloads it would be important for Beyonce to stay at number one on the Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop charts. The download doesn't seem to be coming out this week. There are some very hot songs that are going to really make that an issue and they don't need as much time as Beyonce's. "Margarita" a hot track with Sleepy Brown, Pharell, and Big Boi is going to zoom up the Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop charts. "Pulling Me Back" with Chingy and Tyrese could also zoom up the charts. Joe is making a comeback with "Where You At" with Papoose and that has some potential. Not to mention that Yung Joc still continues to have a stronghold on the top spot. Beyonce isn't even the top Destiny Child artist on the R&B charts right now. The guys have been coming out with some hot tracks and they want the top spots.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 19th, 2006, 02:07 AM
The fact that Aguilera is slipping so quickly after being released to digital downloads doesn't bode well for her success. Let's not remain ignorant of the fact that it is a mathematical impossibility for Beyonce to get into the top 10 on Airplay alone.

Additionally, I don't necessarily think the success of this single will indicate how Beyonce's album and other singles will do. We saw it in 2003 with Work It Out which was a commercial disaster and yet we saw how she dominated the charts with Dangerously in Love and Crazy In Love and Baby Boy (which spent 8 and 9 weeks at the top of the chart respectively).

Mariah Carey's lead single It's Like That wasn't a big success either and we saw what the Emancipation of Mimi did.


Uh huh. You opted to forget that Christina Aguilera's first single "Dirrty" was the worse single on the music charts for her "Stripped" album.
Work It Out wasn't a song on Beyonce's "Dangerously In Love" album.
Mariah's "It's Like That" was on her album and so was Christina's "Dirrty". I really have no idea where you're going with this.
Christina's song dropped one place and will likely make up that place this week, if she stays consistent with airplay. There is the possibility that The Pussycat Dolls will jump over her but Shakira might make up for that as well.

daffodil
Jul 19th, 2006, 02:43 AM
Christina is not a better singer, if she was then she would have 9 Grammy's and she would have won 5 Grammy's in one night!

That is a very uneducated and naive thing to base your whole opinion on.

Before this year's Grammy Awards, Madonna had more Grammys than Mariah Carey, but does that mean that Madonna has a better voice than Mariah's? No.

Alanis Morissette has more Grammys than Madonna, but does that mean that she has a better voice/better songs than Madonna? No.

Missy Elliot's "Under Construction", Justin Timberlake's "Justified", The White Stripes "Elephant", and Evanescence's "Fallen" were all nominated for Album of the Year, but does that automatically mean that they were literally better albums than Christina's Aguilera's "Stripped"? No.

Also, the Grammys are very mainstream, and it's a big popularity contest. I think Christina's "Car Wash" should have been nominated for "Best Rap/Sung Collaboration" at this year's Grammys, but the Grammy people are too mainstream and just looked at the successful songs.

daffodil
Jul 19th, 2006, 02:45 AM
Have you seen Dangerously in love live at the Grammy's? Much better than an Christina vocal!

Absolutely false. Have you watched Christina sing Etta James' cover "At Last" live, or even "What a Girl Wants" on her Stripped tour? She can hit notes in the whistle register, whereas Beyonce cannot.

daffodil
Jul 19th, 2006, 02:46 AM
Now don't get me wrong, it's a good song. I like Christina, it's just nobody can lay a hand on SASHA!

Who's SASHA? :angel:

daffodil
Jul 19th, 2006, 02:52 AM
Christina has and will always live in the shadow is better performers, she did it with Britney, and now Beyonce will outshine her this year. :)

Christina has been punished career-wise, for taking chances with her voice, her image, and her performances. Britney is just another Cher with a better body and a bigger spectacle.

Beyonce, I have almost nothing against. She writes most of her songs, she usually sings her songs live, and she produces/composes a little of her music as well. Not to mention that she has my respect for having many #1 hits, including "Crazy In Love".

However, Christina's voice is in a different league. I just cannot argue with people who have biased opinions, plainly. Christina ALWAYS sings her songs live, whereas Beyonce opts to have better performances, even though she's half-out of breath when she starts singing live halfway through her performance. Christina writes songs on in-depth issues, and important social issues as well. Beyonce writes about love, love, love. etc........

I urge you to listen to Christina's rendition of Etta James' "At Last"
I urge you to listen to Christina's version of "What a Girl Wants" on the Stripped Tour.

Even "Car Wash" has amazing vocals at the end.

jd4eva
Jul 19th, 2006, 03:24 AM
Uh huh. You opted to forget that Christina Aguilera's first single "Dirrty" was the worse single on the music charts for her "Stripped" album.
Work It Out wasn't a song on Beyonce's "Dangerously In Love" album.
Mariah's "It's Like That" was on her album and so was Christina's "Dirrty". I really have no idea where you're going with this.
Christina's song dropped one place and will likely make up that place this week, if she stays consistent with airplay. There is the possibility that The Pussycat Dolls will jump over her but Shakira might make up for that as well.

Work It Out was on Beyonce's Dangerously in Love album. See here: http://www.hmv.com.au/product/rnb.asp?sku=883559. Now technically we really shouldn't count Work It Out because it was unreleased in the US and di reach a top 10 chart position in the UK but it was her debut as a solo artist. We've seen her repeat that same strategy here with the difference that Check On It from the Pink Panther soundtrack went to no 1 in the US.

The point I am trying to make, if you able to comprehend it, is that the performance of a lead single is not necessarily indicative of how successful an album or its subsequent singles will be.

You further claim that Beyonce is unlikely to rise in the charts yet this is based on the assumption that other tracks will surpass her. Historically, Beyonce has had much more success than Aguilera. Dangerously in Love went to no 1 while Stripped was only at no 2. Furthermore, Dangerously in Love spawned two no 1 songs which saw Beyonce spend more time at the top of the charts in 2003 than any other artist. Furthermore, she became the first female singer in history to hold concurrent no 1 album and single in both the US and the UK.

There cannot be a fair comparison between the two artists current position because one has been fully released and the other has yet to release to the consumer market and considering she is missing out on 2/3 of the equation for chart success. Christina is not even in the top 25 on the Airplay chart and her 7th place is thanks in huge part to her 4th place on the digital download chart. The mere fact is that even if she went to no 1 on downloads, if she is unable to break the top 25 in Airplay it will be highly unlikely she would get to no 1....unless all her competition suddenly dropped off and that doesn't seem the case considering she is the one slipping on the charts.

Cator
Jul 19th, 2006, 03:34 AM
Christina has been punished career-wise, for taking chances with her voice, her image, and her performances. Britney is just another Cher with a better body and a bigger spectacle.
Beyonce, I have almost nothing against. She writes most of her songs, she usually sings her songs live, and she produces/composes a little of her music as well. Not to mention that she has my respect for having many #1 hits, including "Crazy In Love".

However, Christina's voice is in a different league. I just cannot argue with people who have biased opinions, plainly. Christina ALWAYS sings her songs live, whereas Beyonce opts to have better performances, even though she's half-out of breath when she starts singing live halfway through her performance. Christina writes songs on in-depth issues, and important social issues as well. Beyonce writes about love, love, love. etc........
I urge you to listen to Christina's rendition of Etta James' "At Last"
I urge you to listen to Christina's version of "What a Girl Wants" on the Stripped Tour.

Even "Car Wash" has amazing vocals at the end.

I agree with everything you said... esp the the parts I bolded...

jd4eva
Jul 19th, 2006, 03:36 AM
Christina has been punished career-wise, for taking chances with her voice, her image, and her performances. Britney is just another Cher with a better body and a bigger spectacle.

Beyonce, I have almost nothing against. She writes most of her songs, she usually sings her songs live, and she produces/composes a little of her music as well. Not to mention that she has my respect for having many #1 hits, including "Crazy In Love".

However, Christina's voice is in a different league. I just cannot argue with people who have biased opinions, plainly. Christina ALWAYS sings her songs live, whereas Beyonce opts to have better performances, even though she's half-out of breath when she starts singing live halfway through her performance. Christina writes songs on in-depth issues, and important social issues as well. Beyonce writes about love, love, love. etc........

I urge you to listen to Christina's rendition of Etta James' "At Last"
I urge you to listen to Christina's version of "What a Girl Wants" on the Stripped Tour.

Even "Car Wash" has amazing vocals at the end.

I don't think many people would dispute that Christina has the more powerful voice. The problem with Christina's voice is that it is often not very smooth when she sings live she sounds like she's straining.

You only have to listen to the audio of her Stripped concert to identify the problems with her voice to the naked ear. They are such different singers that it is hard to compare them. Beyonce has a much smoother voice but she doesn't necessarily have the power that Christina does. Certainly Christina has the bigger range so in that context she is the better vocalist but she may not be commercially favoured because her voice may not necessarily be the victor of personal preference.

I don't necessarily buy this whole image change from Aguilera. She seems to have very distinct identity issues; she went from teen queen to pseudo-whore to yesteryear sex kitten. Given the rate of change it is hardly unfair to see the contrivance in her constant image overhaul. Beyonce has numerous amazing live performances where she has danced her ass off and still managed to keep her voice as powerful as it is recorded but this comes as a result of years of singing while jogging.

The idea of Beyonce as a shallow song-writer and Aguilera as some sort of enlightened soul is a misconception. Beyonce has been awarded the ASCAP Songwriter of the Year Award (only the second female recipient in this prestigious award's history). We must examine Beyonce's work as a whole rather than examine her most successful songs. Certainly Beyonce may not necessarily write in such a way that instantly stands out as a great work of intellectual propensity but she does wirte in a way where she manages to get her point across in a digestable form to the masses. There is no rule which indicates that songs have to be mere propaganda tool; the beauty of music is that it is so many different things to so many different people. There is value in a song that makes people happy as there is in a song that makes people aware. In addition, let's not forget that Aguilera's greatest song to date - Beautiful - was not penned in any part by herself but in full by Linda Perry.

They are different artists; certainly given Beyonce's historical successes she is more prone to individuals who are less likely to embrace her as an artist. It comes with the territory. Christina Aguilera is a fine singer and arguably better vocalist than Beyonce but she is far from the better performer and excuse me if I don't necessarily buy her image change as innovative or cutting-edge.

jd4eva
Jul 19th, 2006, 03:40 AM
I agree with everything you said... esp the the parts I bolded...

Well what that individual posted is not entire accurate. We saw when Christina blatantly sexualised her image that it had generally successful results but not the results that she or her fans wanted. A more recent example is Nelly Furtado who has definitely spiced up her image and yet has been more commercially successful for that change.

The obvious inference here is that Christina Aguilera is not being punished for changing her image. There is no mass market conspiracy to hold her down. Maybe simply the work she is putting it out is simply not good enough; or maybe more fairly it's not the kind of music that people necessarily want to hear.

We've seen Beyonce go from Destiny's Child to a solo-artist seamlessly. Image change does not necessarily indicate the death of a career. Misguided image changes (and I use the term in plural because Christina has had a multitude of them) seems contrived to the general public. And I will once again re-iterate the point that Christina's best socially aware single to date with written by someone else and not by her (in a commercial sense).

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 19th, 2006, 03:46 AM
Work It Out was on Beyonce's Dangerously in Love album. See here: http://www.hmv.com.au/product/rnb.asp?sku=883559. Now technically we really shouldn't count Work It Out because it was unreleased in the US and di reach a top 10 chart position in the UK but it was her debut as a solo artist. We've seen her repeat that same strategy here with the difference that Check On It from the Pink Panther soundtrack went to no 1 in the US.

The point I am trying to make, if you able to comprehend it, is that the performance of a lead single is not necessarily indicative of how successful an album or its subsequent singles will be.

You further claim that Beyonce is unlikely to rise in the charts yet this is based on the assumption that other tracks will surpass her. Historically, Beyonce has had much more success than Aguilera. Dangerously in Love went to no 1 while Stripped was only at no 2. Furthermore, Dangerously in Love spawned two no 1 songs which saw Beyonce spend more time at the top of the charts in 2003 than any other artist. Furthermore, she became the first female singer in history to hold concurrent no 1 album and single in both the US and the UK.

There cannot be a fair comparison between the two artists current position because one has been fully released and the other has yet to release to the consumer market and considering she is missing out on 2/3 of the equation for chart success. Christina is not even in the top 25 on the Airplay chart and her 7th place is thanks in huge part to her 4th place on the digital download chart. The mere fact is that even if she went to no 1 on downloads, if she is unable to break the top 25 in Airplay it will be highly unlikely she would get to no 1....unless all her competition suddenly dropped off and that doesn't seem the case considering she is the one slipping on the charts.
:haha: You know damn well Beyonce's Work It Out was not only the album in America where it matters the most.
We've been talking about the American charts this whole time and then you want to pull some :bs: just to prove a point. You're really just full of full of...full of "self-esteem" aren't you.
There is no technically with Work it Out. You can look at page one of this thread for that info. It was a single. It didn't get much radio airplay though and was pretty much sacked after that in the states.

Christina's debut album was number one and she suprised everyone since P. Diddy's album came out the same week. Her second album didn't debut at number one but who would if Santana is your biggest competition to debut at number one. Who would you pick to be number one between the two, Christina or Santana who is basically now a living legend?
I never said I wanted Christina to get to number one. She doesn't need one. She's done well without a big debut single and with one so it doesn't matter when it comes to album sales for her.

jd4eva
Jul 19th, 2006, 03:59 AM
:haha: You know damn well Beyonce's Work It Out was not only the album in America where it matters the most.
We've been talking about the American charts this whole time and then you want to pull some :bs: just to prove a point. You're really just full of full of...full of "self-esteem" aren't you.
There is no technically with Work it Out. You can look at page one of this thread for that info. It was a single. It didn't get much radio airplay though and was pretty much sacked after that in the states.

Christina's debut album was number one and she suprised everyone since P. Diddy's album came out the same week. Her second album didn't debut at number one but who would if Santana is your biggest competition to debut at number one. Who would you pick to be number one between the two, Christina or Santana who is basically now a living legend?
I never said I wanted Christina to get to number one. She doesn't need one. She's done well without a big debut single and with one so it doesn't matter when it comes to album sales for her.

Yes Work It Out was not on the US version of her album but it was on every other worldwide release of it. What difference does it make if it was on the US version or not? Concedingly my point that Beyonce does not need a strong lead single to be successful in the US isn't really proven but it is proven for other important mass markets; furthermore it indicates that Beyonce's popularity has seen her been consistently strong on the US market. In fact, the fact that Work It Out was never released on the US charts merely goes to show that Beyonce has never released a song that did not make it into the top 5 of the Billboard Hot 100. Either way, it certainly shows that Beyonce is a strong chart contender.

Christina Aguilera on the other hand only managed 1 top 10 single from her last album. If you honestly believe that sales don't matter to artists then really you are being very ignorant of the business itself. Sales are highly important to the artist; it signals validation and most importantly indicates that they are still a viable performer for record labels. The fact of the matter is that Beyonce is the much more successful artist and lets not forget she already has a no 1 single this year.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 19th, 2006, 04:15 AM
Yes Work It Out was not on the US version of her album but it was on every other worldwide release of it. What difference does it make if it was on the US version or not? Concedingly my point that Beyonce does not need a strong lead single to be successful in the US isn't really proven but it is proven for other important mass markets; furthermore it indicates that Beyonce's popularity has seen her been consistently strong on the US market. In fact, the fact that Work It Out was never released on the US charts merely goes to show that Beyonce has never released a song that did not make it into the top 5 of the Billboard Hot 100. Either way, it certainly shows that Beyonce is a strong chart contender.

Christina Aguilera on the other hand only managed 1 top 10 single from her last album. If you honestly believe that sales don't matter to artists then really you are being very ignorant of the business itself. Sales are highly important to the artist; it signals validation and most importantly indicates that they are still a viable performer for record labels. The fact of the matter is that Beyonce is the much more successful artist and lets not forget she already has a no 1 single this year.

Again you keep on saying it wasn't released in the states. It was the featured single for Goldmember. If she didn't want to make it available as a single because it did so bad on the radio then that's her problem not mines. It was a single regardless.
As a solo artist Beyonce has not been successful as Christina. First of all she had to have collaborations with Jay-Z and Sean Paul with her first two singles for her first album. She had to do collaborations with Slim Thug and Jay-Z for her first two singles for this album. She's never really done it alone.
Christina has has a number one album in English and in Spanish.
Whose to say Beyonce's streak of top 5 songs won't end. Christina's streak of top 10s ended after her duet with Ricky Martin.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 19th, 2006, 09:55 AM
LOL wannabeknowitall it would be great arguing with you if you had your facts straight. You're only saying lies lolz to prove your stupid points. It just shows how slow minded and retarted you are. I'm done with you.

BEEILOVEYA
Jul 19th, 2006, 10:49 AM
WOI was SUPPOSED to be released, but it wasn't because it didn't do well. It was actually scrapped. Again. LIAR.

daffodil
Jul 19th, 2006, 05:03 PM
I agree with everything you said... esp the the parts I bolded...

Okay, fine. Maybe Christina's voice isn't in a different league, but I definitely think it is better.

But, even though they both write most of their own music (which is a great thing), I still think Christina has more to say with her music. Every song off her "Stripped" album, excluding, "Infatuation", "Dirrty", "Get Mine, Get Yours", "Loving Me 4 Me", "Underappreciated" all talk about important things. I can't think of a song that Beyonce talks about that has something to do other than being crazy in love, thinking about you all the time, dangerously in love, and checkin' up on it (okay that was like theeee song for a while, props to Bee)

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 19th, 2006, 05:31 PM
WOI was SUPPOSED to be released, but it wasn't because it didn't do well. It was actually scrapped. Again. LIAR.
Well then we have a problem because the stuff I wrote about Work It Out on the first page came from a Beyonce site. It was released on radio. The artist then has the option to release a single to be brought. She decided not to but it's still a single since she opted for it to be released on the radio.
Kelly Clarkson never released "Gone" to the radio stations as a single. Stations played it anyway. It was on the charts. It did not become her fifth single because she didn't release it as a single for radio, downloads, or as a LP.