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Warrior
Jul 15th, 2006, 10:22 PM
Report: Israel gives Syria ultimatum



London-based Arabic language newspaper Al-Hayat says Israel gave Syria 72 hours to stop Hizbullah’s activity, bring about release of kidnapped IDF troops. ‘Israel will not end military activity until new situation created that will prevent Syria, Iran from using terror organizations to threaten its security,’ newspaper quotes Pentagon official as saying
Roee Nahmias



The London-based Arabic language newspaper Al-Hayat reported Saturday that “Washington has information according to which Israel gave Damascus 72 hours to stop Hizbullah’s activity along the Lebanon-Israel border and bring about the release the two kidnapped IDF soldiers or it would launch an offensive with disastrous consequences.”



The report said “a senior Pentagon source warned that should the Arab world and international community fail in the efforts to convince



Syria to pressure Hizbullah into releasing the soldiers and halt the current escalation Israel may attack targets in the country.”



Al-Hayat quoted the source as saying that “the US cannot rule out the possibility of an Israeli strike in Syria,” this despite the fact that the Bush administration has asked Israel to “refrain from any military activity that may result in civilian casualties.”



'Hizbullah made the same mistake'



The report also mentioned that President George W. Bush has repeatedly put much of the blame for the recent escalation on Syria.



“It is no coincidence that the Hizbullah operation comes at a time when the international community is working to impose sanctions on Iran due to its nuclear program and settle the score with Syria by establishing an international court to try those behind the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri,” (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3192598,00.html)the Pentagon source said.



According to the source, Hizbullah made the same mistake as Hamas when it did not predict the ramifications of its actions and ignored the regional and international changes since the fall of Saddam Hussein.



The source said that Israel has indicated that it “will not end its military activity until a new situation is created that will prevent Syria and Iran from using terror organizations, such as Hamas and Hizbullah, to threaten its security.”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3275886,00.html

Just Do It
Jul 15th, 2006, 10:29 PM
oh....again war...

furrykitten
Jul 15th, 2006, 10:34 PM
I hope things can be sorted out without more and more Civilians getting killed, its terrible that the innocent always suffer :sad:

NyCPsU
Jul 15th, 2006, 10:38 PM
I hope things can be sorted out without more and more Civilians getting killed, its terrible that the innocent always suffer :sad:

blame the terrorists for hiding behind the civilians
its sad, but true

they dont have military bases that could be attacked, but instead basements under schools and churches. They really are disgusting.

Just Do It
Jul 15th, 2006, 10:49 PM
The same situation was when NATO and US bombed Serbia in 1999 !They destroyed my primary school!Latter they said: serbian military was inside, but unfortunately there was just children :(

venus_rulez
Jul 15th, 2006, 10:50 PM
This really could turn into the next World War.

TF Chipmunk
Jul 16th, 2006, 02:42 AM
I don't mean to sound like an ignorant little kid, but I haven't been following the news as I should be doing. Could someone please tell me how all of this violence started from Israel in the first place?

LoveFifteen
Jul 16th, 2006, 02:51 AM
This really could turn into the next World War.

I agree. It's really scary actually. Isreal has nuclear weapons, and so do some of its enemies. This really could erupt into World War 3. I am trying not to get nervous.

spyro
Jul 16th, 2006, 03:15 AM
Where are we at ??? A country giving ultimatum to other country in the matter of millitary action (war) ? Does Israel have this kind of authority ?

Mightymirza
Jul 16th, 2006, 04:58 AM
Where are we at ??? A country giving ultimatum to other country in the matter of millitary action (war) ? Does Israel have this kind of authority ?
what authority??LOL the country just wrecked another country recently(lebanon)...Nothing is fair actually..Even tho this step makes more sense for israel than destroying lives in lebanon!!!!!!!!Well thing is that israel did take the land and displaced a lot of arabs is a fact!! But the best thing for people is to forget it now and live on in peace!! Arabs just refuse to get away this land!!! And its gonna keep on having these kinda wars!!! Everyones fighting for some reason!! What a crazy world!!

Reckoner
Jul 16th, 2006, 05:33 AM
I don't mean to sound like an ignorant little kid, but I haven't been following the news as I should be doing. Could someone please tell me how all of this violence started from Israel in the first place?
Hey, I am one that usuallykeeps up with world events but lately I've haven't really being paying to attention to whats going on :o (to keep my sanity, plus I'm calmer than I used to). In other words anybody want to help the both of out, please? :wavey:

Scotso
Jul 16th, 2006, 04:23 PM
Syrian-backed Hezbollah (an anti-Israel terrorist group) that has control of southern Lebanon attacked Israel, killing several Israeli troops and kidnapping two others. That's what started it.

Scotso
Jul 16th, 2006, 04:24 PM
what authority??LOL the country just wrecked another country recently(lebanon)...Nothing is fair actually..Even tho this step makes more sense for israel than destroying lives in lebanon!!!!!!!!Well thing is that israel did take the land and displaced a lot of arabs is a fact!! But the best thing for people is to forget it now and live on in peace!! Arabs just refuse to get away this land!!! And its gonna keep on having these kinda wars!!! Everyones fighting for some reason!! What a crazy world!!

Yes, and we all know that Arabs have never taken land from anyone.

Scotso
Jul 16th, 2006, 04:30 PM
Syria is up there with North Korea as having the most authoritarian and horrible government. They pretend to strictly follow Islam, but have no qualms about doing whatever will strengthen their grip on power. They admittedly back terrorist organizations and pulled the strings behind Lebanon's puppet government for years until they were finally forced out, but they still control a great deal of that country through their terrorist Hezbollah. Iran also supports these terrorist groups.

I don't understand why the United States would have gone after Iraq when Syria admittedly (or obviously) supports terrorist groups. I don't want war, but I'm happy that Israel has given them an ultimatum. Syria thinks they can do whatever they want and there will be no consequences, and it's time someone showed them that that isn't the case. Unfortunately, I think the Syrian government is so delusional that they probably think they could defeat Israel. Fat chance.

Iran has said that any attack on their fellow terrorist government in Syria would lead to a "response" from Iran... but again, I doubt they have the backbone to attack Israel.

I just hope that world governments put pressure on Syria and they at least begin to play lip-service to peace. I know they will never stop funding terrorists because they are such. Still, war between Israel and Syria might well lead to World War III, and I don't think anyone really wants that. I don't think the U.S. would stand by while Syria and Iran attacked Israel, nor should they.

*sigh* I don't understand why these people can't just leave Israel alone and all live in peace.

Mightymirza
Jul 16th, 2006, 04:41 PM
Yes, and we all know that Arabs have never taken land from anyone.
that was like Cebturies agoooo when countries were not even formed!!! It was a crazy world back then..They came all the way upto india and ruled major parts of india as well..But be realistic!!! It was like centuries ago..And this is like 50 yrs ago...That time the concept of countries and everything was formed!!! Of course its gonna create problems!!!!What beats me is that why wasnt Israel given some better land in Europe!!! Anyways how would you feel if a bunch of people come to your country and beat the shit out of you guys and take a major land and proclaim themselves as a country!!!! I a sure it would be hard for the people!!And it was just 50 yrs ago..Which very well be today...Anyways arabs shud let this one go and leave in peace!!! Now thing s r too hard to change!! I am not supporting anyone!! Just making you notice that everyone is suffering and not only israel!!And u cant say that israel is suffering most!! I think its lebanon!! And then israel!! But somehow major players like syria is quite in peace!!!

Lord Nelson
Jul 16th, 2006, 07:00 PM
that was like Cebturies agoooo when countries were not even formed!!! It was a crazy world back then..They came all the way upto india and ruled major parts of india as well..But be realistic!!! It was like centuries ago..And this is like 50 yrs ago...That time the concept of countries and everything was formed!!! Of course its gonna create problems!!!!What beats me is that why wasnt Israel given some better land in Europe!!! Anyways how would you feel if a bunch of people come to your country and beat the shit out of you guys and take a major land and proclaim themselves as a country!!!! I a sure it would be hard for the people!!And it was just 50 yrs ago..Which very well be today...Anyways arabs shud let this one go and leave in peace!!! Now thing s r too hard to change!! I am not supporting anyone!! Just making you notice that everyone is suffering and not only israel!!And u cant say that israel is suffering most!! I think its lebanon!! And then israel!! But somehow major players like syria is quite in peace!!!
Do you call what is happening in Darfur centuries ago? The arab militias are committing genocide and ethnically cleansing the area of non Arabs. This is happening today and not Centuries ago.

Crazy Canuck
Jul 16th, 2006, 08:03 PM
Do you call what is happening in Darfur centuries ago? The arab militias are committing genocide and ethnically cleansing the area of non Arabs. This is happening today and not Centuries ago.
I'm rather impressed that you were actually able to make out any English in that post (the one which you respondedd to).

Lord Nelson
Jul 16th, 2006, 10:52 PM
I'm rather impressed that you were actually able to make out any English in that post (the one which you respondedd to).
He is speaking Indian English so I guess I understand his language. :p
Actually his first few sentences were the ones that cought my eye. The rest of his message I did not pay too much attention to. :)

Crazy Canuck
Jul 16th, 2006, 11:08 PM
He is speaking Indian English so I guess I understand his language. :p
Actually his first few sentences were the ones that cought my eye. The rest of his message I did not pay too much attention to. :)
I was more refering to the fact that he doesn't bother to break his posts in to paragraphs and that he litters them with exclamation points.

I mean, the point of his post is perfectly understandable if I torture my eyes for long enough to read it.

In other words, yes, I'm a jerk.

spyro
Jul 17th, 2006, 01:49 AM
Poor UN ... NATO (No Action Talk Only) ... If they let Israel do this kind of ultimatum, just wait for the other countries to do the same ... We'll see in this less than 3 days :(

roarke
Jul 17th, 2006, 05:26 AM
Why can't this matter be settled through diplomacy? Why couldn't Isreal have sought help from the international community to help get back the two soldiers instead of waging war against another sovereign nation? Isreal is coming off as a big bully right now instead of taking the high road and let the International community work this out. It is painful to know your hard earn tax dollars are helping to destroy the lives of many innocents. American taxpayers should be so proud of themselves! I know about the long history of the problems in the middle east, but ask yourself this question, would you want to be one of these civilians whose lives, country and economy are being destroyed for two soldiers you don't even know and care about?
Such a pity they all just don't know how to get along. Vengeance and brutality never get you anywhere, it only breeds more of itself. Right now Isreal has created for themselves a young nubile nation of haters in the Palestenians. No wonder it will never allow that country to develop into a progressive and economically vital nation. It's action are desinged to keep these people down forever in the name of border security....., if they allow them to develop they would have enemies with the same or similar measure of military expertise and financial capabilities and then things would not be so one sided. I wouldn't just be stones against tanks but both nation would fight on equal footing.

Of course all those nations should take responsibility for themselves and rid their countries of the idiots who are so mired in hate that they don't care about their own people and use them as pawns. But like every country that is the hardest thing to do. The US has it's own problems of facilitating hate amongs it's own people. One of the most powerful nations on the earth an it can't get it's citizens to get along with each other, so why expect it from Nations that have been embroiled in conflicts from the beginning of time. One would think by now they would be tired of it but I think they all live it for so long it they decide to get along they might implode. By the way that might not be a bad idea.....

Brooklyn90
Jul 17th, 2006, 05:29 AM
i feel sad for the ppl that live there

Mightymirza
Jul 17th, 2006, 05:43 AM
I'm rather impressed that you were actually able to make out any English in that post (the one which you respondedd to).
I am not surprised u dint get it tho!! :rolleyes: I am sure the length of the reply took out half of the interest!!!Plus I write as if I am thinking hence all the exclamations and stuff...plus I only write when i feel passionate abt things and I have a lebanese frnd and an israeli frnd and my israeli frnd was apologizing soo my lebanese frnd!! As we see what shes going through!! Its just I am too passionate when I write..A con for sure but cant help :p

Crazy Canuck
Jul 17th, 2006, 06:05 AM
I am not surprised u dint get it tho!! :rolleyes: I am sure the length of the reply took out half of the interest!!!

Yes, because I have so often demonstrated that I'm adverse to reading.

Next.

Crazy Canuck
Jul 17th, 2006, 06:08 AM
You editted that when I was in the middle of replying. I was, of course, only responding to the first bit.

Crazy Canuck
Jul 17th, 2006, 06:10 AM
On second thought, you editted long before I responded. I just apparently had my browser open for a very long time before bothering to say anything.

:)

Mightymirza
Jul 17th, 2006, 06:25 AM
On second thought, you editted long before I responded. I just apparently had my browser open for a very long time before bothering to say anything.

:)
:p yeah I dont blame u..I wudnt read big paragraphs either as a rule!!!