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spiceboy
Jun 30th, 2006, 06:31 PM
http://www.towleroad.com/./photos/uncategorized/ali_forney.jpg

spiceboy
Jun 30th, 2006, 06:32 PM
Great ad :worship:

It's part of a series of ads (http://www.aliforneycenter.org/campaign.html) from the Ali Forney Center in New York which provides housing for homeless LGBT youth. The ads will appear on the subway and on pay-phone kiosks around the city. Executive Director: "This ad campaign speaks to a universal human experience, the love between a parent and a child. Our goal is to address the rising rate of LGBT youth homelessness, particularly in communities of color."

SelesFan70
Jun 30th, 2006, 06:35 PM
I wouldn't stop loving that dad...hot! :hearts:

Wigglytuff
Jun 30th, 2006, 06:37 PM
http://www.towleroad.com/./photos/uncategorized/ali_forney.jpg
wow thats actually a really nice ad. very soft and gentle.

Helen Lawson
Jun 30th, 2006, 06:40 PM
I wouldn't stop loving that dad...hot! :hearts:

I'm not digging him at all.

spiceboy
Jun 30th, 2006, 06:41 PM
http://www.aliforneycenter.org/images/for-web-site-s.gif

:kiss:

LoveFifteen
Jun 30th, 2006, 06:56 PM
Great ads!

(But bad grammar! :help: )

Wigglytuff
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:04 PM
Great ads!

(But bad grammar! :help: )
lol i saw that too.

:lol:

like grammar i can take or leave, but there are those rare times where it matters... (see my sig) :lol:

ampers&
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:07 PM
Great ads!

(But bad grammar! :help: )
those sentences are actually grammatically correct.
they're just awkwardly worded.

anyway, great ad.:)

Mana
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:22 PM
good ad!

Helen Lawson
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:25 PM
I think they're kind of creepy if you ask me.

Anyway, I think a more effective one would be show some really old, frail person in a wheelchair in a dingy nursing home with the caption, "This is where you get dumped when you're old and have no one. Wouldn't you rather be living with your queer child?"

LoveFifteen
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:30 PM
those sentences are actually grammatically correct.
they're just awkwardly worded.

No, they aren't. If you use the conditional in your main clause, you need to use the past tense (or the past subjunctive, more precisely, but in English, they're the same) in your if-clause.

"Would you stop loving him if you knew he were gay?" is the correct version.

Also, "Would you stop loving him if you knew he was gay?" is acceptable to most people because the subjunctive is fading from modern English.

Kart
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:30 PM
http://www.towleroad.com/photos/uncategorized/ali_forney.jpg

Is that question aimed at the adult or the child?

¤CharlDa¤
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:31 PM
I think they're kind of creepy if you ask me.

Anyway, I think a more effective one would be show some really old, frail person in a wheelchair in a dingy nursing home with the caption, "This is where you get dumped when you're old and have no one. Wouldn't you rather be living with your queer child?"

:lol:

Kart
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:32 PM
Anyway, I think a more effective one would be show some really old, frail person in a wheelchair in a dingy nursing home with the caption, "This is where you get dumped when you're old and have no one. Wouldn't you rather be living with your queer child?"

That would be an excellent ad.

¤CharlDa¤
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:32 PM
Great ads though.

Yasmine
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:34 PM
:worship: fab ads;)

Wigglytuff
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:37 PM
No, they aren't. If you use the conditional in your main clause, you need to use the past tense (or the past subjunctive, more precisely, but in English, they're the same) in your if-clause.

"Would you stop loving him if you knew he were gay?" is the correct version.

Also, "Would you stop loving him if you knew he was gay?" is acceptable to most people because the subjunctive is fading from modern English.
:worship: :worship:

CooCooCachoo
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:41 PM
Great ads! :worship:

drake3781
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:44 PM
No, they aren't. If you use the conditional in your main clause, you need to use the past tense (or the past subjunctive, more precisely, but in English, they're the same) in your if-clause.

"Would you stop loving him if you knew he were gay?" is the correct version.

Also, "Would you stop loving him if you knew he was gay?" is acceptable to most people because the subjunctive is fading from modern English.

Great. I know these things but cannot write them out the way you do. Thanks.

ampers&
Jun 30th, 2006, 08:36 PM
No, they aren't. If you use the conditional in your main clause, you need to use the past tense (or the past subjunctive, more precisely, but in English, they're the same) in your if-clause.

"Would you stop loving him if you knew he were gay?" is the correct version.

Also, "Would you stop loving him if you knew he was gay?" is acceptable to most people because the subjunctive is fading from modern English.
hmmmm...ok.:)
i learn something knew everyday.
thanks. ;)

Wigglytuff
Jun 30th, 2006, 08:51 PM
Is that question aimed at the adult or the child?
i think it would work both ways, no?

Scotso
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:02 PM
People who wouldn't love their children unconditionally shouldn't have any.

!<blocparty>!
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:23 PM
People who would actually take something away from these adverts are the people who wouldn't have any trouble with their kids coming out anyway. :scratch:

miffedmax
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:44 PM
I'm still trying to come to terms with the fact that one of my sons is an Arsenal fan.

égalité
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:49 PM
These ads are fantastic!

... but there should be ads for a "save the subjunctive tense" campaign, or something.

Reuchlin
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:55 PM
These ads are fantastic!

... but there should be ads for a "save the subjunctive tense" campaign, or something.
:worship: :worship: Personally, I don't like the ad. Like another person said, it's hard to tell who's the gay one...

VeeDaQueen
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:07 PM
the baby is the gay one. it is saying "would you still love your baby even if it was gay" because many parents disown their kids after coming out.

drake3781
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:12 PM
I support the idea but there are problems with the execution, as mentioned already.

LoveFifteen
Jul 1st, 2006, 12:28 AM
the baby is the gay one. it is saying "would you still love your baby even if it was gay" because many parents disown their kids after coming out.

Let's show the dying subjunctive some love:

Would you still love your baby even if it were gay?

;) :kiss:

LoveFifteen
Jul 1st, 2006, 12:29 AM
People who wouldn't love their children unconditionally shouldn't have any.

If I had a son, I think I'd kick him out of the house if he ever told me that he was a Justine fan. :help:

no_one_special
Jul 1st, 2006, 12:39 AM
Great Ads :bowdown:

Direwolf
Jul 1st, 2006, 02:26 PM
OMG..such a powerful adv.

yellowcard
Jul 1st, 2006, 03:03 PM
First I thought this was another article, and I was preparing to say "of course, gay people rock" or something alike, but when I saw the advertising, I only could say: well done, people who have created them:D

(Mustn't the "know" not be changed into "knew"?)

égalité
Jul 1st, 2006, 03:07 PM
If I had a son, I think I'd kick him out of the house if he ever told me that he was a Justine fan. :help:

I AGREE COMPLETELY :lol:

Erika_Angel
Jul 1st, 2006, 03:07 PM
(Mustn't the "know" not be changed into "knew"?)

That would insinuate that the child is definately gay though. It should probably be 'Would you stop loving him if he was gay?' or 'if he told you he was gay?' (considering it is about teens who come out)

yellowcard
Jul 1st, 2006, 03:14 PM
That would insinuate that the child is definately gay though. It should probably be 'Would you stop loving him if he was gay?' or 'if he told you he was gay?' (considering it is about teens who come out)


=> if he were gay?

yellowcard
Jul 1st, 2006, 03:15 PM
I AGREE COMPLETELY :lol:

Me too:p

Erika_Angel
Jul 1st, 2006, 03:19 PM
=> if he were gay?

It still makes more sense than the original.

nikita771
Jul 1st, 2006, 03:20 PM
Love the ads.

King Aaron
Jul 1st, 2006, 04:05 PM
I like the ad. :)

Wigglytuff
Jul 1st, 2006, 07:58 PM
i am starting to wonder if they should be redone, because it looks like the message is getting lost in the really bad grammar. like i said, grammar can be took ( :haha: ) or or left for a lot of things. but not for ads, particularly not ones with such a powerful message.