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Martian Jeza
Jun 29th, 2006, 05:46 PM
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On Saturday afternoon begin the biggest cycling race on the world : Le Tour de France ! I hope we gonna have a way better Tour de France than the last years which were very boring with the excessive leadership of Lance Armstrong !

Have a nice Tour 2006.

Sweep
Jun 29th, 2006, 06:05 PM
Good luck to Brad Wiggins and Davie Millar, who's back after his ban. :worship: :worship:

Mommiej
Jun 29th, 2006, 06:32 PM
Gonna be a boring tour if only 10 teams will start...

FrenchY52
Jun 29th, 2006, 06:40 PM
It hasn't come at home for years :( Whatever good luck Tom Boonen and THOMAs Voeckler ! :o

Diam's
Jun 29th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Hope this is the last one!

hablo
Jun 29th, 2006, 06:47 PM
allez Ullrich, I hope Vinokourov gets to participate too.

hablo
Jun 29th, 2006, 06:49 PM
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/20060629_164101Dev.html
Ullrich et Basso cités :speakles:

Selon la radio espagnole privée Cadena Ser, les noms des coureurs Jan Ullrich et Ivan Basso, principaux favoris du Tour de France qui débute samedi à Strasbourg, figurent dans le dossier d'instruction judiciaire sur le réseau espagnol de dopage sanguin qui éclabousse depuis mars le cyclisme.

Les autres noms cités sont ceux des Espagnols Joseba Beloki, Roberto Heras, Francisco Mancebo, de l'Américain Tyler Hamilton et du Colombien Santiago Botero.

Ces informations de la radio espagnole font suite à la levée du secret d'instruction, décidée ce jeudi par le juge en charge du dossier à la demande du parquet.

Diam's
Jun 29th, 2006, 07:53 PM
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/20060629_164101Dev.html
Ullrich et Basso cités :speakles:

Selon la radio espagnole privée Cadena Ser, les noms des coureurs Jan Ullrich et Ivan Basso, principaux favoris du Tour de France qui débute samedi à Strasbourg, figurent dans le dossier d'instruction judiciaire sur le réseau espagnol de dopage sanguin qui éclabousse depuis mars le cyclisme.

Les autres noms cités sont ceux des Espagnols Joseba Beloki, Roberto Heras, Francisco Mancebo, de l'Américain Tyler Hamilton et du Colombien Santiago Botero.

Ces informations de la radio espagnole font suite à la levée du secret d'instruction, décidée ce jeudi par le juge en charge du dossier à la demande du parquet.

OMG
what a shock ! :lol:

hablo
Jun 29th, 2006, 08:05 PM
OMG
what a shock ! :lol:
ok, not really, but still......... :lol:
many big names to tarnish the tour de france even further........... :shrug:

Diam's
Jun 29th, 2006, 08:21 PM
ok, not really, but still......... :lol:
many big names to tarnish the tour de france even further........... :shrug:



They should cancel it :tape:

gentenaire
Jun 29th, 2006, 08:24 PM
Apparently, the cyclists taking part in the Tour have to sign a form confirming that they're not involved in the case. If they refuse to sign the form, they're not allowed to start in the tour. If they do sign it and it turns out they are involved in the doping case, they'll be expelled and face serious fines.

I wonder how many cyclists will withdraw 'injured' now.

Il Primo!
Jun 29th, 2006, 08:25 PM
I bet the best "clean "runner will be ranked 28th :devil:

hablo
Jun 29th, 2006, 08:30 PM
Apparently, the cyclists taking part in the Tour have to sign a form confirming that they're not involved in the case. If they refuse to sign the form, they're not allowed to start in the tour. If they do sign it and it turns out they are involved in the doping case, they'll be expelled and face serious fines.

I wonder how many cyclists will withdraw 'injured' now.
:spit: 99% ? I doubt it, they probably can afford good lawyers... :tape:

Diam's
Jun 29th, 2006, 08:44 PM
I bet the best "clean "runner will be ranked 28th :devil:

Oxymoron :tape:

Allez-H
Jun 29th, 2006, 09:46 PM
Le Tour des Dopés :tape:

Just hope that all the cheaters will be out before the Tour starts :wavey:

Il Primo!
Jun 29th, 2006, 09:47 PM
Le Tour des Dopés :tape:

Just hope that all the cheaters will be out before the Tour starts :wavey:

no chetears=no tour

Allez-H
Jun 29th, 2006, 09:49 PM
Well maybe it's time that the clean ones (number 148 in ranks) get their well-deserved moment de gloire

Diam's
Jun 29th, 2006, 09:50 PM
no chetears=no tour

and no tour = no Jean-Paul Ollivier + no Gérard Holtz :tape:
That would be so great :lol:

Il Primo!
Jun 29th, 2006, 09:53 PM
Well maybe it's time that the clean ones (number 148 in ranks) get their well-deserved moment de gloire

I don't wanna break some illusions but it's definitely too late to havea clean tour. Doping is so deeply established. Powerfull and rich runners are not really in danger. Only the poor ones are detected as cheaters. But everyone has to accept that cyclism will not be a clean sport again. It's over

Il Primo!
Jun 29th, 2006, 09:55 PM
and no tour = no Jean-Paul Ollivier + no Gérard Holtz :tape:
That would be so great :lol:
Gerard's son was in my scholl, poor him, he suffered :tape:!I'm not at all into cyclism but it would definitely be better for you :spit:

Allez-H
Jun 29th, 2006, 10:05 PM
I don't wanna break some illusions but it's definitely too late to havea clean tour. Doping is so deeply established. Powerfull and rich runners are not really in danger. Only the poor ones are detected as cheaters. But everyone has to accept that cyclism will not be a clean sport again. It's over

Well, putting out the two favourites (if they are indeed doped) of the Tour would be a very good start.

Maajken
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:09 AM
I think this whole Fuentes case is unbelievable. Did anyone see the images of all those bloodpacks and how totally unhygienic that place looked? You'd think that riders like Ullrich and Basso would take more precaution in their dope programmes, they have the money for it after all.

If they get caught, then so be it. They should have been more careful, but it would be very wrong to assume the ones that do start on saturday are all clean.

diekedelver
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:59 AM
Jan Ullrich (and Sevilla) suspended by T-Mobile :o

(source : ARD)

GoDominique
Jun 30th, 2006, 08:03 AM
Ahahahahahahaha Ullrich :haha: :haha:

The German hero :haha: :haha: :haha:

Fuck cycling and the Tour de France :lol:

I hope all other cheaters DIE from drug abuse :yeah:

Diam's
Jun 30th, 2006, 08:15 AM
T-Mobile :worship:

Strangelove
Jun 30th, 2006, 08:38 AM
This year's Tour will be a farce if every cyclist who's on that list will be suspended. Definitely if Basso's on it too. Mentsjov was supposedly on it....Mancebo...

I think normally Mr.LeBlanc would be suspending any team that has cyclists on the list, but if he were to do that, there'd be nothing left I guess.

mandy7
Jun 30th, 2006, 08:46 AM
no way menchov would do that! no way! i refuse to believe it!
same for flecha! flecha is in my tp 5 of none dutch riders!!!!
he wouldn't do this to me :sobbing:

tfannis
Jun 30th, 2006, 08:49 AM
At this rate Tom Boonen can win the Tour the France :angel: There will be no-one left with climb-potential :p ;)

LefandePatty
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:35 AM
Le Tour des Dopés :tape:

:rolls:

Diam's
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:52 AM
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:scared:

XMan
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:54 AM
Ullrich is out, Basso could face the same fate. Unbelievable. I was really looking forward to their performance in the tour. But now the tour is really one big joke.

The Crow
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:54 AM
Ullrich :lol: The first tour in soooooooo many years he actually has a chance and NOW he gets caught :lol:

Haimar
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:55 AM
no way menchov would do that! no way! i refuse to believe it!
same for flecha! flecha is in my tp 5 of none dutch riders!!!!
he wouldn't do this to me :sobbing:


They also said Thomas Dekker was involved :tape:

SloKid
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:02 AM
As long as Valverde is good to go, I'm fine. :unsure:

jrm
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:18 AM
Fatty Ullrich out of Tour de France - made my day :banana:

but not happy with Basso's involment in doping scandal :sobbing:

jrm
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:20 AM
Clean cyclists - sciene fiction :D

TdF_DBLL
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:45 AM
They also said Thomas Dekker was involved :tape:

Thomas Dekker is involved because of Basso and Checchini. But it might be an explanation of his leaking form. :tape:


Tour is gonna be boring anyway. Cause those stupid french made it a flat tour, cause they have no climbers ;)

Strangelove
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:45 AM
They also said Thomas Dekker was involved :tape:On Dutch teletext it says no Rabo-cyclists are on the list. Or at least none that are doing the Tour. So Flecha + Menchov should be in the clear....

Basso's out though. I would have put my money on Basso or Ullrich...
Valverde/Vino big favorites now? Honestly I don't know a lot of other guys who can win it....

TdF_DBLL
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:45 AM
Basso is officially out now.

TdF_DBLL
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:48 AM
On Dutch teletext it says no Rabo-cyclists are on the list. Or at least none that are doing the Tour. So Flecha + Menchov should be in the clear....

Basso's out though. I would have put my money on Basso or Ullrich...
Valverde/Vino big favorites now? Honestly I don't know a lot of other guys who can win it....

You still think Vino is able to ride. :o If he starts ASO is gonna ruiïng his tour by doing dopingcontroles in the night etc.

As long as there is no evidence against Menchov he's my favorite for this tour.

Pff I have to change all my tourpredicitions games. (a total number of 15 atm..)

TdF_DBLL
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:50 AM
Popovych also big favourite now and Klöden is T-mobiles leader now I guess.

Strangelove
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:57 AM
You still think Vino is able to ride. :o If he starts ASO is gonna ruiïng his tour by doing dopingcontroles in the night etc.No word on him being on the list or not. But I heard earlier that there were like 20 guys from his team on there. Wait and see.

But for me the Tour is officially over now anyway. I don't care anymore.
Already without Basso, Ullrich, Mancebo. Of course I would be nice if Menchov could challenge, but in the end it wouldn't mean anything....
And with all these scandals coming out, I doubt anyone is "clean".....

TdF_DBLL
Jun 30th, 2006, 11:00 AM
I know Vino is not on the list, but with almost his whole team on the list he can't ride a normal TdF.

This tour is gonna be the same as 1998, when Michael Boogerd finished 5th but I think at least 5 potential top 10 finishers where thrown out of the tour.

I wonder who the other 150 athletes are. (football/tennis/athletics)

mandy7
Jun 30th, 2006, 11:03 AM
Pff I have to change all my tourpredicitions games. (a total number of 15 atm..)

i think i'm not even gonna play
cause they'll be taking out riders during the tour
trust the french to do that

TdF_DBLL
Jun 30th, 2006, 11:05 AM
I know they will ;)

gentenaire
Jun 30th, 2006, 11:20 AM
:eek:

wipeout
Jun 30th, 2006, 12:16 PM
What the hell is wrong with these people? :eek:

I'd always hoped Ullrich was powered only by eating too much chocolate, cakes and donuts. :tape:

He was the good guy next to the ever-suspect Armstrong. :(

Idiots. :mad:

Pszczelny
Jun 30th, 2006, 12:17 PM
TdF 2006 - what a joke :rolls:

Basso :devil:

gibberish
Jun 30th, 2006, 12:41 PM
I'm so frigging depressed by this Spanish doping investigation cos cycling is the only other sport I truly follow other than tennis.

I was so geed up to see Ullrich have another shot at the yellow jersey and now he, Basso and Mancebo are all out of Le Tour.

I get the feeling that most of this investigation is just hot air. Which pisses me off the most.

Favourites for GC have to now be Cadel Evans, Floyd Landis, Levi Leipheimer and Alejandro Valverde if he ever learns how to time trial. And who knows maybe George Hincapie could pull off a surprise for the Disco boys.

spudrsca
Jun 30th, 2006, 12:48 PM
I'm so frigging depressed by this Spanish doping investigation cos cycling is the only other sport I truly follow other than tennis.

I was so geed up to see Ullrich have another shot at the yellow jersey and now he, Basso and Mancebo are all out of Le Tour.

I get the feeling that most of this investigation is just hot air. Which pisses me off the most.

Favourites for GC have to now be Cadel Evans, Floyd Landis, Levi Leipheimer and Alejandro Valverde if he ever learns how to time trial. And who knows maybe George Hincapie could pull off a surprise for the Disco boys.

Hincapie winning, it would be funny. As we all know, he's a clean cyclist that couldn't climb and now after 30+ years old climb with the best:devil:

hablo
Jun 30th, 2006, 12:48 PM
I was looking forward to seeing Ullrich win the whole thing :help:
Ugh, how come they didn't do this to Armstrong when he was racing :mad::rolleyes:

Martian Jeza
Jun 30th, 2006, 12:52 PM
I was looking forward to seeing Ullrich win the whole thing :help:
Ugh, how come they didn't do this to Armstrong when he was racing :mad::rolleyes:

No, Armstrong was clean :lol: :lol: :lol: :tape: :tape: :tape:

spudrsca
Jun 30th, 2006, 12:52 PM
I was looking forward to seeing Ullrich win the whole thing :help:
Ugh, how come they didn't do this to Armstrong when he was racing :mad::rolleyes:

He was giving money to uci for anti-doping controls :tape: :tape:
And he didn't ride in Italy, he was affraid of the policemen there.

gibberish
Jun 30th, 2006, 01:01 PM
Oh well.

Go Cadel! His TT ability and full team has got to help his cause.

Sweep
Jun 30th, 2006, 02:22 PM
I think Popovych, Leipheimer, Kloden, Landis and Valverde will make up the top 5.

I'm gonna enjoy this tour. Forget Ullrich ( :lol: ), Basso and Mancebo, this makes the race a lot more interesting. No-one knows who's gonna win. Joseba Beloki (remember him?) is also out of the tour...

Is Rasmussen racing this year? He looked a promising rider until he choked on the TT right at the death last year.

gibberish
Jun 30th, 2006, 03:09 PM
I doubt Rasmussen gets much of a chance this year. He's better off just chasing the polka dots again since Rabobank is mostly supporting Menchov's chances.

Although with the team Rabo has got, you'd think they cared more about stage wins than real GC prospects.

Rasmussen TT last year was the funniest thing I'd seen since Bjarne Riis' Eurodisney TT tantrum in 97

matthias
Jun 30th, 2006, 03:57 PM
TdF 2006 - what a joke :rolls:

Basso :devil:

yes, a big joke now
:lol:

Martian Jeza
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:19 PM
I hope Tom Boonen will win the green jersey and many stages : He deserved it last year but yeah he had to give up because of a knee injury...

gentenaire
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:29 PM
I'm so frigging depressed by this Spanish doping investigation cos cycling is the only other sport I truly follow other than tennis.

Oh, but there are tennis players and football players involved as well, along with other athletes. The only reason the names of the cyclists have been released now is because the cycling federation demanded it, they wanted a clean tour.
There's been no such pressure from the FIFA or the ITF, no attempt to make clear they want a clean WC and a clean Wimbledon. As a result, those names haven't been released yet (allegedly, Nadal is on the list).

gibberish
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:30 PM
Is it true the entire T-Mobile team has pulled out of the TdF?

What a sad, pathetic situation for world cycling whether any of the doping allegations are true or not.

Boonen's probably the favourite for green, but as long as McEwen doesn't headbutt anyone I'd say he's a good chance too. Husvhod will have to win at least one stage this year to retain green.

Once again this year it looks like the Giro will be remembered as the best Grand Tour of the year.

Diam's
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:32 PM
:rolleyes:

Astana-Wurth team ready to race

Alexander Vinokourov finished fifth in the 2005 Tour
The Astana-Wurth team have defied Tour de France officials by arriving in Strasbourg in preparation for Saturday's opening prologue time trial.

Organisers asked them not to compete after former team manager Manolo Saiz was implicated in a blood-doping probe.
But the team say they have every right to race after referring their case to the Court for Arbitration (CAS).

gibberish
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:34 PM
But hasn't ASO said they wouldn't allow them to start, no matter the CAS ruling?

I don't agree with ASO's decision cos the CAS is the highest authority for these kinds of matters. But I still think we won't be seeing Vino on the prologue startline tomorrow.

Diam's
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:35 PM
i think i'm not even gonna play
cause they'll be taking out riders during the tour
trust the french to do that

Organisers can't do anything against the dopers.
So don't worry your favorite riders will be there :)

Diam's
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:36 PM
But hasn't ASO said they wouldn't allow them to start?

I don't agree with ASO's decision cos the CAS is the highest authority for these kinds of matters. But I still think we won't be seeing Vino on the prologue startline tomorrow.

The CAS has allowed them to compete :rolleyes:

gibberish
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:41 PM
But ASO's still saying they won't let Vino's team start. And what with Contador, Davis, Nozal, and Paulinho now named, I'm assuming they'll all be barred from starting.

This shit is crazier than Festina, the 99 or 02 Giro scandals.

gibberish
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:43 PM
If I were a conspiracy buff I'd say this scandal was perfectly timed to help Valverde's Tour chances.

But of course I don't believe that.

gentenaire
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:44 PM
But 'only' three riders on the Astana-Wurth starting list are actually on the doping list, so they should still have enough riders at the start.

gibberish
Jun 30th, 2006, 04:46 PM
Yeah but fat lot of good they'd be able to actually achieve at the Tour.

I hope they do start, just to piss off ASO. Vino especially.

LoveFifteen
Jun 30th, 2006, 06:48 PM
I was looking forward to seeing Ullrich win the whole thing :help:
Ugh, how come they didn't do this to Armstrong when he was racing :mad::rolleyes:

Cuz Armstrong was clean! :mad:

vogus
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:24 PM
Cuz Armstrong was clean! :mad:


are you interested in buying the Washington monument? I can get you a really good deal on it. I'll sell it to you for 500$ cash.

jrm
Jun 30th, 2006, 07:47 PM
So the kicked one will be replaced or will the teams have less riders :scratch:

Strangelove
Jun 30th, 2006, 08:00 PM
So the kicked one will be replaced or will the teams have less riders :scratch:No replacements.

And Vino + his entire team are out too...

wipeout
Jun 30th, 2006, 09:03 PM
Last years finishing places...

1. Armstrong
2. Basso*
3. Ullrich*
4. Mancebo*

*named in 2006 doping scandal

If it turns out the riders named were cheating last year, this result might take some explaining from Armstrong. :tape:

hablo
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:43 PM
Oh, but there are tennis players and football players involved as well, along with other athletes. The only reason the names of the cyclists have been released now is because the cycling federation demanded it, they wanted a clean tour.
There's been no such pressure from the FIFA or the ITF, no attempt to make clear they want a clean WC and a clean Wimbledon. As a result, those names haven't been released yet (allegedly, Nadal is on the list).
:speakles:

Last years finishing places...

1. Armstrong
2. Basso*
3. Ullrich*
4. Mancebo*

*named in 2006 doping scandal

If it turns out the riders named were cheating last year, this result might take some explaining from Armstrong. :tape:
But Armstrong was/is soooooooooooo 'clean' !!! :tape:

manu32
Jun 30th, 2006, 10:56 PM
amazing......with world's cup nobody in france was talking about "véloooooo" and tennis also,i agree....but today with doping news that's a big deal......maybe a french
cyclist could win.....the tour de france is a non event or an event because french paper
"l'equipe" is the organizer of the non event....this paper is very bad,reactionnaire (in french sorry) and very nationalist ...so i wish tour de france will disappear tomorrow...

Diam's
Jun 30th, 2006, 11:18 PM
amazing......with world's cup nobody in france was talking about "véloooooo" and tennis also,i agree....but today with doping news that's a big deal......maybe a french
cyclist could win.....the tour de france is a non event or an event because french paper
"l'equipe" is the organizer of the non event....this paper is very bad,reactionnaire (in french sorry) and very nationalist ...so i wish tour de france will disappear tomorrow...
"the tour de france is a non event or an event l'equipe is the organizer of the non event"
What does it mean ? :confused:

And why do you say L'équipe is "nationalist" ?? don't you remember the Festina affair ?? Virenque and Brochard ??

Yes the Tour de France sucks because of the doped participants ... and it's not L'équipe's fault if those cyclists dope.

Diam's
Jul 15th, 2006, 05:47 PM
LANCE IS BACK!

Quand Armstrong s'en prend aux Bleus...

Dans un discours prononcé sur la chaîne ESPN, Lance Armstrong s'en est violemment pris à l'équipe de France de football. "Tous leurs joueurs ont été testés positifs... comme étant des trous du cul ", a lancé le septuple vainqueur du Tour de France.

I love this guy, he's so great! :)



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